@geniegogo As far as i heard the dragunov was developed from the ak platform as a designated marksman rifle to improve the effective range of the soviet troops
There's a superficial resemblance between the AK and SVD, but the actions of the two rifles are VERY different, to that point that nothing is in common and no parts interchange. If you look up the disassembly procedure for both, you'll see they are extremely distinct designs from one another.
I just realized every popular Assault Rifle in the World has alot of variants. M4- M110 Sniper System, AK-47-SVD,G3-PSG-1, M4-M249, AK-47-RPK, G3A3- HK21, I mean every weapon has either a LMG or Sniper Variant.
@RETURNOFTHEM200 the M4 has nothing to do with the m249. The ak and SVD only look the same, The M110 only looks liuke an M4. its more like an M16. i dont even know why you called an M4 an assualt rifle when its a carbine. so, please stay of the Call of duty
@4everUSNavy except the AK and SVD dont look the same. look at the foregrip sometime. Also many carbines are often shortened versions of full-size rifles, so it's an easy mistake for the uninitiated to make.
@Locothrope yes they do look similar. they we designed by the same guy and have similar saftey style. most of what you see on an SVD was designed after the ak. look it up sometime. And their have been Mny shorter versions of the M16. doesnt make them all m4 carbines. hell they even made an m16 carbine which became know as the commando if you play too much black ops
@saikalyxxxx Its still very loud. As stated in the title, he is using high velocity ammunition (supersonic) which will create a sonic boom upon leaving the barrel. Our ears cant take that much abuse and anything over 85 dB for a prolonged period will damage them. 120 is painful. For people with sensitive hearing (like me), damage and pain can occur at even lower decibels than 120. The completely silent suppressor that is used in video games doesnt exist, even when using subsonic ammo.
@LotusDragon09 Well actually, I've seen some guy somewhere on YT who made his own silencer for some .22 pistol he had. The silencer itself weighed about as much as the gun, but all you could hear was the hammer drop (with subsonic .22 obviously).
@Gonzap94 The SVD is legal to own in the U.S., but unfortunately the ATF decided they're no longer legal to import. The ones that are already here, however, while perfectly legal, are prohibitively expensive. However, the PSLs, which are similar in appearance, are still legal, and they're not too bad of a rifle, and for quite a bit less than any Dragunov or variant.
Fortunately, they are still legal to build. though they lack the authenticity of the original rifles, there are 3 companies in Colorado alone (that I know of - there are probably more) which produce semi-contract builds from copies of the original Blueprints. they go for ~$1500.
Personally though, If I were going for real accuracy in the 7.62x54 rimmed cartridge, I would find and restore an old SVT-38. much harder to maintain and heavier, but WAAAAAYYYY more accurate.
@whatuwantmom thumbs down because you don't know anything lol. a silencer does not make a firearm hearing safe. theres only 2 and they are 45. cans the AAC ti-rant and the Silencerco Osprey. so keep your smart alic comments to your self especially when you don't know what your talking about you wont look dumb that way.
ok i may sound fuckin retarded but isnt all factory 7.62x54R "high velocity" my mosin nagant sniper fires 174gr match ammo...which is roughly 2300fps...thus high velocity?right...are you using hand loads??
@sinofallsinners is it accurate? 174gr rounds.. I thought somewhere in the 140-150gr was reccomended. Because with me at ranges over 600yrds the bullet goes off corse in the wind.
where you get the silencer? i bought this gun and my neighbors like guns to i live on a farm and i always shoot things but its always loud my nieghbors said get a silencer and i cant find one
Hey. I have a question for someone who knows by experience. If you need to go to war, and live in the mud, or sand or salty water in WWI conditions for months or years, which rifle you will chose?..The M76 or the PSL? No other one. Just one of those rifles...Thanks.
I was just referring to the part in which you mentioned the need to go to war, and live in the mud, or sand or salty water in WWI conditions for months or years. Sounds like your preparing for ww3
@warriorofsteel01 . Thanks for your answer. What worries me about the PSL it's it can't handle it own ammo over 148. Looks very fragile.. The m14 is awesome but way overpriced. In the middle is the m76. I just wonder if you can put in the m76 a foldable stock without compromise any part of the rifle..Do you know that?. Is any connection between the stock and the rifle?
@lorddinaire actually the m76 costs more than the civilian version of the m14....which is known as the m1a....if you want a good rifle...in 308 caliber i suggest an hk91(g3) It is the ak47 of battle rifles.Mags go for 3 bucks each last time i checked (the aluminum ones)
the hk91 is a reliable platform and will preform under combat conditions.oh yeah and the bayonet looks pretty cool too :]
Thanks for your advice, but what I'm looking for is not a battle rifle but a semi auto long range distance rifle.. Mostly I'm looking to test my perception of distance and accuracy rather that pull the trigger of a machine gun.. Thanks again..
@lorddinaire You might have some trouble finding a decent platform.The only decent sniper rifle I can think of that is semi auto is the German hk psg-1 and you better have deep pockets full of cash to buy one of those
@AlexSlesh depending on which country manufactures the 7.62 bullet there is a difference in the thickness of the round itself. You can't always shoot 7.62x54r rifle with russian ammo if it isnt desgined for it
The 7.62x54R is used in the M44 carbine Nagant and the M91/30 rifles and in the SVD, PLS, FPK, and those rifles that have a dragunov stock and the 7.62x39mm is used in mostly assualt weapons and yes both of them r very commen around the world.
no the 7.62x39 is an ak 47 cartridge and has an effective range of about 300m the 7.62x54r is the standard sniper round the only exception that i can think of is the VSS vintorez which is chambered in 9x39mm so the the SVD is chambered in 7.62x54r
yes, almost certainly low velocity, doctored rounds or the video camera does a rubbish job of giving accurate noise rendition. See my newest video on a friend's dragunov using the same suppressor developed by the guys in this vid - gunworks. It takes the edge off but still loud as anything. The guy in this vid isnt wearing ear muffs for nothing.
After looking at the other vids it is the camera's fault. They fire the Dragunov without the suppressor and the noise is quite. The camera doesn't give an accurate recording of the noise. So the ammo is high velocity.
What a mammoth load of lying drivel pedro. Firstly the Dragunov Tigr is optioned from Izhmash with the full SVD length 620mm barrel so that Tigr is an SVD in every respect except iron sites are marked to 300m, comes with a 5 round magazine (will accept a 10 round obviously since it is the same receiver) and leaves out the slip on adjustable gas tube. Same production, same rifle. Additionally I shot sub moa on video with my full length tigr so don't know why you're into spreading lies...
Blatant lie. PSL's deliver about half the accuracy and can only handle light ball ammo (anything heavier than around 147gr will tear a PSL receiver apart!) PSL's are also notorious for being magazine picky, that is it will work reliably with some mags and not others that appear identical. My PSL jammed regularly with 2 of the 3 mags it came with. Its lack of accuracy is because the PSL is a scaled-up AK (not uber accurate) while the SVD has a different gas system and action.
@hobofactory Your post is ill-informed. With a tunable gas block you can use heavier ammo and not worry about damage to the bolt carrier. I've got 5k rounds down my PSL with no wear showing. And I sure as hell bet I can out shoot most SVDs. The mag issue is just the locking surfaces; 5 minutes and some file work and any mag will function flawlessly. Learn before you bash next time, mate.
Spare me the personal insults, PSL's aren't built with adjustable gas systems (SVD's are), if you need to modify in order to get them to work with all kinds of ammo and to get them to run with more than just the one magazine that comes with, then it's a fault with the design and a disadvantage, what's more how much if your supposed 5k rounds has actually been something other than light ball?
@hobofactory The 5k was just heavy ball. Surplus mix of Bulgy and Russian. The PSL was never meant to be a precision rifle, but many of them can be slightly modified to become just that. And as a matter of course the mags were paired to the rifle, numbered to them in fact, thus the need to modify any that are different.
Also your claim of being able outshoot most any SVD is dubious at best (in addition to being purely anecdotal). The SVD is an inherently more accurate rifle. The PSL is just an up-sized AK, a platform not known for its MOA accuracy to put it mildly. PSL features a stamped receiver with a lot more flex and less rigidity than an SVD. Combine that with the fact the SVD's action and gas system better lend themselves to accuracy. Simply put the SVD will almost ALWAYS be more accurate.
@hobofactory 'Most' 'Almost any' qualifiers that denote a chance less than 100%. That was not boasting, nor a carpet claim. Certainly there will be SVDs that can whoop my pants off but I have tuned my PSL to be stiff competition for them. I've also shot against 2 examples of the SVD and tied both for accuracy at 430m.
@darkminstrel That's all well and good but my beef was with the clown who claimed that "SVD's suck" and that PSL's are much better, maybe he is Romanian and has a bias stemming from national pride but there's not ANY area (accuracy, reliability, durability for example) that the PSL actually outdoes the SVD. Maybe some degree of tuning is possible to improve the PSL much like one can accurize a Mosin, but to say a PSL is flat out better, especially out of the the box, that's gotta be pure BS.
@hobofactory Oh, in a purely out-of-the-box head to head the SVD will come out on top. Unlike the PSL it was actually designed as a higher end precision rifle. It does take time, money, and parts to tune the PSL. My claim was that comparable accuracy was possible that's all.
Well derp people, The suppressor only dampens the sound but is still very loud
Dragunov1185 1 month ago
You really need ear protection for that?
SniperAlec27 1 month ago
Thats a VSS...
Fango925 1 month ago
@Fango925 No not really. The vss looks a bit different and it's shorter. ;)
DLemre 3 weeks ago
@Fango925 lol nope it aint
HercegodSvetogSave 3 days ago
Let's see ... Mikhail Kalashnikov and Yevgeny Dragunov. Two different names, I would say these are two different people. ^_^ Different designers.
"K" for Kalashnikov and "D" for Dragunov. I also read that they have little or no parts in common, but I can't find where I read that.
geniegogo 4 months ago
@geniegogo As far as i heard the dragunov was developed from the ak platform as a designated marksman rifle to improve the effective range of the soviet troops
oo0TheUnforgiven0oo 3 months ago
@oo0TheUnforgiven0oo
There's a superficial resemblance between the AK and SVD, but the actions of the two rifles are VERY different, to that point that nothing is in common and no parts interchange. If you look up the disassembly procedure for both, you'll see they are extremely distinct designs from one another.
hobofactory 3 months ago
I just realized every popular Assault Rifle in the World has alot of variants. M4- M110 Sniper System, AK-47-SVD,G3-PSG-1, M4-M249, AK-47-RPK, G3A3- HK21, I mean every weapon has either a LMG or Sniper Variant.
RETURNOFTHEM200 7 months ago
@RETURNOFTHEM200
The PSG is not based on a G3, the SVD is not based on a AK, neither is the m249 related to the m4.
slikbmxgeorge 6 months ago
@RETURNOFTHEM200 the M4 has nothing to do with the m249. The ak and SVD only look the same, The M110 only looks liuke an M4. its more like an M16. i dont even know why you called an M4 an assualt rifle when its a carbine. so, please stay of the Call of duty
4everUSNavy 6 months ago
@4everUSNavy except the AK and SVD dont look the same. look at the foregrip sometime. Also many carbines are often shortened versions of full-size rifles, so it's an easy mistake for the uninitiated to make.
Locothrope 6 months ago
@Locothrope yes they do look similar. they we designed by the same guy and have similar saftey style. most of what you see on an SVD was designed after the ak. look it up sometime. And their have been Mny shorter versions of the M16. doesnt make them all m4 carbines. hell they even made an m16 carbine which became know as the commando if you play too much black ops
4everUSNavy 6 months ago
the guy forgot he had a suppresser on his gun lol
apriRs08 8 months ago 13
@apriRs08 practicing good safety is a good habit to get into
meldon100 2 months ago
kinda defeats the purpose of having a suppressor if you have to wear hearing protectors....
wyattw 9 months ago
quiet as hell compared to a non suppressed SVD
Cuervo4992 10 months ago
puttig headphones when using a silencer ? why ?:P
saikalyxxxx 11 months ago
@saikalyxxxx Its still very loud. As stated in the title, he is using high velocity ammunition (supersonic) which will create a sonic boom upon leaving the barrel. Our ears cant take that much abuse and anything over 85 dB for a prolonged period will damage them. 120 is painful. For people with sensitive hearing (like me), damage and pain can occur at even lower decibels than 120. The completely silent suppressor that is used in video games doesnt exist, even when using subsonic ammo.
LotusDragon09 11 months ago
@LotusDragon09 Sorry, I meant 130, not 120.
LotusDragon09 11 months ago
@LotusDragon09 aha, now that sounds reasoning. nice
saikalyxxxx 11 months ago
@LotusDragon09 Well actually, I've seen some guy somewhere on YT who made his own silencer for some .22 pistol he had. The silencer itself weighed about as much as the gun, but all you could hear was the hammer drop (with subsonic .22 obviously).
ihaterobbie123 10 months ago
what suppressor you runnin man that sounds beatiful
gunrunnersproject 11 months ago
Hey could you please make the video shorter next time? It was too long.
imiritu 11 months ago 37
subsonic next
TandA1724 1 year ago
that's subs
Even if that silencer is integrated it wouldn't drop standard load velocity to subsonic.
GR3B3N 1 year ago
I dont think that was High Velocity Ammo, matter of fact, I would bet $ on it.
sirtom68 1 year ago
why the fuckin hell isn't this vid any longer?
imiritu 1 year ago
@imiritu because hes fat and had to imidiatly rush somewhere and eat somthing
CrispyOstrage 1 year ago 3
@CrispyOstrage rofl
imiritu 1 year ago
are theas legal in the U.s.?
Gonzap94 1 year ago
@Gonzap94 in some states In cali hell no nothing is fricking legal in cali
Ninja1881 1 year ago
@Ninja1881 awww sadface
Gonzap94 1 year ago
@Ninja1881
This is not true, DRUGS are legal in cali. It must be easy to control a populace which is both defenseless and incapable of complex thought.
grittygreenhorn 1 year ago
@grittygreenhorn Welcome to the UK!
chunkyfecalbreakfast 1 year ago
@Gonzap94 The SVD is legal to own in the U.S., but unfortunately the ATF decided they're no longer legal to import. The ones that are already here, however, while perfectly legal, are prohibitively expensive. However, the PSLs, which are similar in appearance, are still legal, and they're not too bad of a rifle, and for quite a bit less than any Dragunov or variant.
AreThereNoMoreNames 1 year ago
@AreThereNoMoreNames
Fortunately, they are still legal to build. though they lack the authenticity of the original rifles, there are 3 companies in Colorado alone (that I know of - there are probably more) which produce semi-contract builds from copies of the original Blueprints. they go for ~$1500.
Personally though, If I were going for real accuracy in the 7.62x54 rimmed cartridge, I would find and restore an old SVT-38. much harder to maintain and heavier, but WAAAAAYYYY more accurate.
Thuringen 1 year ago
Thats an SVDS :P looks interesting with a silencer tough
BalladSoldier 1 year ago
ill send a letter to santa for one of these
afrofin1 1 year ago
look like a vss
3spidy5 1 year ago
Hi..Do you know if you can use this suppressor in a PSl-54c??
lorddinaire 1 year ago
Puunnnyyy Bawld MAN! let a REAL Man dew IT! *arnold impressiod* now bald man...GET TO THA CHOPPPPAAAAHHH!!!!
XcXdualchamp50 1 year ago
Wow nice rifle, the wood on the foregrip is beautiful
TehRealCanadarocker 1 year ago
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why are you wearing ear protection when your shooting with a silencer? thumbs up if you agree
whatuwantmom 1 year ago
@whatuwantmom
the suppressor doesn't make it silent enough that it won't damage your ears
EmoHunting666 1 year ago
@whatuwantmom thumbs down because you don't know anything lol. a silencer does not make a firearm hearing safe. theres only 2 and they are 45. cans the AAC ti-rant and the Silencerco Osprey. so keep your smart alic comments to your self especially when you don't know what your talking about you wont look dumb that way.
fatdan172501 1 year ago
damn it sounds like a bb gun
akshooter762 1 year ago
perfect sniper rifle quiet, powerfull and light :)
memmnock 1 year ago
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@memmnock "perfect sniper rifle quiet, powerfull and light :)"
Nitpick: It is team/squad(section)/platoon designated marksman's rifle not sniper rifle. :P
GeneralCalculus 1 year ago
is this realy a SVD? or a SVU?
cepomwa 1 year ago
@cepomwa Uuummm SVU is bullpup, which this defiantly isn't.
Breakneckhydra1 1 year ago
@Breakneckhydra1 this is a svd
kingsberries 1 year ago
@kingsberries Did I say this WASN'T an SVD? NO. I said this wasn't an SVU, I know this is an SVD.
Breakneckhydra1 1 year ago
Damn, that was quiet. Is the ammo subsonic?
ppitm 1 year ago
@ppitm
probably
jpapca 1 year ago
Im thinking about getting a dragunov but i wondering if its accurate at 250 yds?
TheViralKings 1 year ago
@TheViralKings They are accurate up to like 850 yards dude
oneeyedude20 1 year ago
@TheViralKings FUCK ya its accurate at 250y u can get about 850y to 950y if your really good
dizzyman67 1 year ago
@TheViralKings indeed it is. look at a website called dragunov.net , and you shall find the infomation you seek.
hehehe929 1 year ago
What are the reasons for an M1A being a $1,000+ rifle?
icankickflip 1 year ago
@icankickflip so i wont buy one
akshooter762 1 year ago
ok i may sound fuckin retarded but isnt all factory 7.62x54R "high velocity" my mosin nagant sniper fires 174gr match ammo...which is roughly 2300fps...thus high velocity?right...are you using hand loads??
sinofallsinners 2 years ago
@sinofallsinners is it accurate? 174gr rounds.. I thought somewhere in the 140-150gr was reccomended. Because with me at ranges over 600yrds the bullet goes off corse in the wind.
hehehe929 1 year ago
@hehehe929 ive taken 650 yards no problem the match ammo is alot better than the standard tho
sinofallsinners 1 year ago
where you get the silencer? i bought this gun and my neighbors like guns to i live on a farm and i always shoot things but its always loud my nieghbors said get a silencer and i cant find one
ballinj6 2 years ago
Hey. I have a question for someone who knows by experience. If you need to go to war, and live in the mud, or sand or salty water in WWI conditions for months or years, which rifle you will chose?..The M76 or the PSL? No other one. Just one of those rifles...Thanks.
lorddinaire 2 years ago
Well PSL looks at least semi decent but both suck and are clones of the dragunov.
melgd23 2 years ago
@lorddinaire
You know something we don't know?
diramonsky 2 years ago
@diramonsky . You think too much. I'm just making a research about what I will buy . If I know more than you, I'll not ask..
lorddinaire 2 years ago
@lorddinaire
I was just referring to the part in which you mentioned the need to go to war, and live in the mud, or sand or salty water in WWI conditions for months or years. Sounds like your preparing for ww3
diramonsky 2 years ago
@diramonsky
lorddinaire isnt the only one.
warriorofsteel01 1 year ago
@lorddinaire the m76 is a better made rifle than the psl. but i wouldnt mind having both...
warriorofsteel01 1 year ago
@warriorofsteel01 . Thanks for your answer. What worries me about the PSL it's it can't handle it own ammo over 148. Looks very fragile.. The m14 is awesome but way overpriced. In the middle is the m76. I just wonder if you can put in the m76 a foldable stock without compromise any part of the rifle..Do you know that?. Is any connection between the stock and the rifle?
Thanks.
lorddinaire 1 year ago
@lorddinaire actually the m76 costs more than the civilian version of the m14....which is known as the m1a....if you want a good rifle...in 308 caliber i suggest an hk91(g3) It is the ak47 of battle rifles.Mags go for 3 bucks each last time i checked (the aluminum ones)
the hk91 is a reliable platform and will preform under combat conditions.oh yeah and the bayonet looks pretty cool too :]
warriorofsteel01 1 year ago
Thanks for your advice, but what I'm looking for is not a battle rifle but a semi auto long range distance rifle.. Mostly I'm looking to test my perception of distance and accuracy rather that pull the trigger of a machine gun.. Thanks again..
lorddinaire 1 year ago
@lorddinaire You might have some trouble finding a decent platform.The only decent sniper rifle I can think of that is semi auto is the German hk psg-1 and you better have deep pockets full of cash to buy one of those
warriorofsteel01 1 year ago
thank you very much for the info..
lorddinaire 2 years ago
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lorddinaire 2 years ago
Fuck no. Don't try it, you'll blow up your gun and injure or kill yourself. Only use the caliber that's stamped on the gun.
esh325 2 years ago 48
No. That would mess up your gun. x54r is cheap and common anyway.
YOSHIZERO 2 years ago 3
@lorddinaire ummmm....no you cant use either, not without chaning bolt and reciever and several other internal parts
zooders 2 years ago
ok isnt the 7.62x54r the moisn nagant round the svd round most comminly found is the 7.62x39 right will some1 plz help me cuz i dont no
wtf2256 2 years ago
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no that is a different round. the 7.62x39 was an experimental round, but was used in the SKS carbine
messrsinferno 2 years ago
7.62x39 is AK47 round. SVD use 7.62x54R (same as Mosin rifle).
AlexSlesh 2 years ago 46
@AlexSlesh depending on which country manufactures the 7.62 bullet there is a difference in the thickness of the round itself. You can't always shoot 7.62x54r rifle with russian ammo if it isnt desgined for it
TomsGuns 1 year ago
@AlexSlesh
Yeah the Mosin Nagant uses that caliber but the 7.62x54r is a widely used round in the sniper world.
Scariestkiller 1 year ago
The 7.62x54R is used in the M44 carbine Nagant and the M91/30 rifles and in the SVD, PLS, FPK, and those rifles that have a dragunov stock and the 7.62x39mm is used in mostly assualt weapons and yes both of them r very commen around the world.
Popsicle22754 2 years ago
no the 7.62x39 is an ak 47 cartridge and has an effective range of about 300m the 7.62x54r is the standard sniper round the only exception that i can think of is the VSS vintorez which is chambered in 9x39mm so the the SVD is chambered in 7.62x54r
AbyssalHunt3r 2 years ago
@AbyssalHunt3r and its not a standard sniper round by any means
zooders 2 years ago
@zooders i meant russian sniper cartridges sorry i already know the 7.62x51 is NATOs standard
AbyssalHunt3r 2 years ago
Get yourself a M76 its better than SVD and PSL and it uses a much better round.
Adin07 2 years ago
thats a short dragunov can some one tell me what it is?
jikininki1 2 years ago
That isn't high velocity ammo, it sounds like it's SUBSONIC ammo, which is low velocity..
drewd1987 2 years ago
yes, almost certainly low velocity, doctored rounds or the video camera does a rubbish job of giving accurate noise rendition. See my newest video on a friend's dragunov using the same suppressor developed by the guys in this vid - gunworks. It takes the edge off but still loud as anything. The guy in this vid isnt wearing ear muffs for nothing.
grannman 2 years ago
After looking at the other vids it is the camera's fault. They fire the Dragunov without the suppressor and the noise is quite. The camera doesn't give an accurate recording of the noise. So the ammo is high velocity.
grannman 2 years ago
Well even with subsonic ammo you would hear the initial BANG. But you have to listen for the supersonic crack. I didn't hear any supersonic crack.
drewd1987 2 years ago
PSL's are not superior to a Dragunov, end of story.
Dragunov has better accuracy and diff' internals from PSL.
Before someone spouts off - Yes I do know what I'm talking about I own an SVD.
Ask a buncha PSL owners who wants to swap rifle for an SVD/Tigr and be ready to run from the swarming eager mob.
Ask a buncha Dragunov owners who wants to swap for a PSL, ... and listen to the crickets chirping.
"nuff said"
LemmingHerda 3 years ago
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you own a Tiger.
nuff said.
Civilian knockoff.
PSL=sub zero MOA.
I own one.
SVD (russian real one) rated for 2.5 MOA>
wow.
It's the user, all weapons will be accurate
pedrothemarine 2 years ago
Great, ... now please share the source of your flawed MOA-rating info'. k-thx.
LemmingHerda 2 years ago 3
What a mammoth load of lying drivel pedro. Firstly the Dragunov Tigr is optioned from Izhmash with the full SVD length 620mm barrel so that Tigr is an SVD in every respect except iron sites are marked to 300m, comes with a 5 round magazine (will accept a 10 round obviously since it is the same receiver) and leaves out the slip on adjustable gas tube. Same production, same rifle. Additionally I shot sub moa on video with my full length tigr so don't know why you're into spreading lies...
grannman 2 years ago
@grannman How hard are Tigrs to get? I've been looking into getting one.
AbyssalHunt3r 1 year ago
@AbyssalHunt3r Depends what country you are in.
grannman 1 year ago
@grannman USA
AbyssalHunt3r 1 year ago
@AbyssalHunt3r then you'll have to pay a heap. They stopped importing them long ago after the law changed.
grannman 1 year ago
nice airsoft gun lol
pedrothemarine 3 years ago
aaaa Romanian 7.62x54 Dragunov
WandalzSWD 3 years ago
Dragunovs suck,PSLs are better
WeisserWolf666 3 years ago
there the same gun they just look different
GhilliesSniper 3 years ago
Umm,NOOO,you are obvioulsy a frigin retard,they are nothing alike,look it up stupid ass!
WeisserWolf666 3 years ago
ur a retard the Puşca Semiautomată cu Lunetă (PSL) is based on the svd asshole
GhilliesSniper 3 years ago
Hey moron,no it wasnt,do you build and sell guns,NO you dont,I DO,so shut the hell up moron,you're just showing your trailer park education!
WeisserWolf666 3 years ago
fuck u i no wat im talkin about asshole
GhilliesSniper 3 years ago
No,no you don't trailer park trash
WeisserWolf666 3 years ago
least i dont screw my own mother
GhilliesSniper 3 years ago
GhilliesSniper wrote; "there the same gun they just look different"
Wrong.
LemmingHerda 3 years ago
This is SWD ? Tigr?
WandalzSWD 3 years ago
Its not pronounced SWD,its pronounced SVD. Anyhow,PSLs are better than dragunovs
WeisserWolf666 3 years ago
@WeisserWolf666
Blatant lie. PSL's deliver about half the accuracy and can only handle light ball ammo (anything heavier than around 147gr will tear a PSL receiver apart!) PSL's are also notorious for being magazine picky, that is it will work reliably with some mags and not others that appear identical. My PSL jammed regularly with 2 of the 3 mags it came with. Its lack of accuracy is because the PSL is a scaled-up AK (not uber accurate) while the SVD has a different gas system and action.
hobofactory 3 months ago
@hobofactory Your post is ill-informed. With a tunable gas block you can use heavier ammo and not worry about damage to the bolt carrier. I've got 5k rounds down my PSL with no wear showing. And I sure as hell bet I can out shoot most SVDs. The mag issue is just the locking surfaces; 5 minutes and some file work and any mag will function flawlessly. Learn before you bash next time, mate.
darkminstrel 3 months ago
@darkminstrel
Spare me the personal insults, PSL's aren't built with adjustable gas systems (SVD's are), if you need to modify in order to get them to work with all kinds of ammo and to get them to run with more than just the one magazine that comes with, then it's a fault with the design and a disadvantage, what's more how much if your supposed 5k rounds has actually been something other than light ball?
hobofactory 3 months ago
@hobofactory The 5k was just heavy ball. Surplus mix of Bulgy and Russian. The PSL was never meant to be a precision rifle, but many of them can be slightly modified to become just that. And as a matter of course the mags were paired to the rifle, numbered to them in fact, thus the need to modify any that are different.
darkminstrel 3 months ago
@darkminstrel
Also your claim of being able outshoot most any SVD is dubious at best (in addition to being purely anecdotal). The SVD is an inherently more accurate rifle. The PSL is just an up-sized AK, a platform not known for its MOA accuracy to put it mildly. PSL features a stamped receiver with a lot more flex and less rigidity than an SVD. Combine that with the fact the SVD's action and gas system better lend themselves to accuracy. Simply put the SVD will almost ALWAYS be more accurate.
hobofactory 3 months ago
@hobofactory 'Most' 'Almost any' qualifiers that denote a chance less than 100%. That was not boasting, nor a carpet claim. Certainly there will be SVDs that can whoop my pants off but I have tuned my PSL to be stiff competition for them. I've also shot against 2 examples of the SVD and tied both for accuracy at 430m.
darkminstrel 3 months ago
@darkminstrel That's all well and good but my beef was with the clown who claimed that "SVD's suck" and that PSL's are much better, maybe he is Romanian and has a bias stemming from national pride but there's not ANY area (accuracy, reliability, durability for example) that the PSL actually outdoes the SVD. Maybe some degree of tuning is possible to improve the PSL much like one can accurize a Mosin, but to say a PSL is flat out better, especially out of the the box, that's gotta be pure BS.
hobofactory 3 months ago
@hobofactory Oh, in a purely out-of-the-box head to head the SVD will come out on top. Unlike the PSL it was actually designed as a higher end precision rifle. It does take time, money, and parts to tune the PSL. My claim was that comparable accuracy was possible that's all.
darkminstrel 3 months ago