Jeff Buckley - I Never Asked to Be Your Mountain (Tim Buckley Cover)

[NovaScotiaChick]

You just think you'll listen to one Jeff song because youtube suggests it and then half an hour later you're still at it and then you read about Tim and think, hhmmm, maybe one by Tim to round it off but then you have second thoughts, maybe better not, after all I have not yet cried listening to Jeff so I should keep Tim for another day :) but I wouldn't want Tim to feel bad so alright then, let's make it... Driftin'...

[nat00ben06]

I think most people's voices are strongest somewhere between 22 and 28, I mean there lung power, breath support, vocal chords and their bodies, muscles surrounding the lungs,heart,diaphram and throat. So in between that age range for most artists not all is when you hear them singing at their best.

[sixbladeknife44]

I think Jeff blew a lot of minds this day, especially the Tim fans in the crowd.

[hannah4440]

Hi, don't know what remark that I made that you are responding to, must be some time ago, anyway, don't think they can really be compared, other than personal preferences, and, as they are both fantastic, well, why compare, love them both, but to be honest, with Jeff, I kinda love most of his stuff, 'cos I am more drawn to his diversity in covers, and singing style, but, and it's a big but, Tim is also brilliant, 'nough said from me, cheers

[MsOndine]

@hannah4440,

Sorry for my late reply. I probably missed it because your post didn't show up in my mailbox. I must admit I discovered Tim through Jeff. They indeed were both very special, both in their own unique ways. Jeff still can almost bring me to tears at moments. Tim was proabbly a bit more calculated in his expression in general. He could recreate his voice and adjust it to the mood of the songs he sung and wrote. A kind of singing chameleon.

[MsOndine]

@hannah4440

But Jeff proved to be a brilliant soul singer (Everybody Wants Her You), which was a very pleasant surprise to me.

[garylucas]

Jeff Buckley--acoustic guitar, vocals

Gary Lucas--space guitar

Cheryl Hardwick--piano

Greg Cohen--acoustic bass

Hank Roberts--cello

GE Smith--guitar

Live at St Ann's Church Brooklyn, "Greetings from Tim Buckley" tribute concert 4/26/91

Produced by Hal Willner

[ecald12]

Actually, I think Jeff sings this better than Tim did. While there are some similarities in vocals between Jeff and Tim, I would not go so far to refer to them as "Jeff/Tim". The two are quite distinct as artists.

[TransitionDNB]

whos the cocksucker who disliked it? This is incredbile.

[b0n3z0r]

awesome song :) Jeff and Tim both are UNREAL.

btw : this song is soooo beatles :)

[BHSemaphoreINFO]

Every once in a while, when I feel the need to have a chill run up and down my spine, I seek out this. It never fails.

[JessicaElder]

Jeff was at least 24....he was born in 1966! He got a late start...he spent a lot of time studying guitar and playing in a band (no singing) before he found this voice and got it out. I think he was in his early 30's when he died. He seems younger here though, not that 24 isn't young as hell. What were you doing at 24?

[EternalAngel318]

@JessicaElder he was 24, he turned 25 in November of that year.

[SneakingUpFromBehind]

69 likes and 0 unlikes, bitches.

This is sex.

[Ab0nis]

that's how it should be and stay: 0 unlikes

[hannah4440]

They say time heals all, but I don't want to find ANOTHER Jeff/tim Buckley!!! I am happy with what I can access through Youtube and dvd's/cd's, there is something sooo... beautiful about the fact that they are unique!! there are many talented people around nowadays, (if you care to look for them) trust me they are there! and should be given a chance to shine in their own right, but artist like Jeff/Tim can't be replaced, they just can't, and I love that; it keeps me coming back for more!!!

[Sculptorshaw]

The voice was so much like his dad's but the arrangement lacked the purity that Tim brought to the table. Too much atmosphere and not enough soul.

[tallguyy76]

Chills. So much emotion in this song. It almost feels like a eulogy for his dad or at least a eulogy for the relationship they never had. Why are people this talented always gone so young .

[HeidiIvy]

ummm, to mazrio128, so you were around 11 years old when you saw that? Must have made quite an impact..... The whole connection between the song, and Jeff not being apart of Tim's life... and the intensity of the song, words, feeling etc., that MUST have been one POWERFUL moment in musical history.

[Spenceheart]

Listening to this again, knowing what the content of the song was about (towards Jeff's mom mainly), certainly makes this a love-hate thing. I think you can sense the tension in Jeff's voice. If nothing else, this was Jeff's way of going to the funeral he was never able to attend. Its very important for a child to be there, because in later years they will want to know they were there. I know the feeling, having not been to my grandparents funeral.

[Hatshepssut]

<3.

[hannah4440]

lunarquine, dream interpretation for you. is it possible that you have a talent that you are not using, perhaps singing? also possibly recovered from illness, or addiction, either way this dream points to good prospects ahead, but make sure that you believe in yourself, as others seem to, don't know if I'm intruding on something private (hope not) excuse me if I am, and good luck to you, cheers, (take that leap)

[lunarquine]

I had a dream once and they were both in it - I was climbing up a rusty narrow ladder at a harbour, there were thick waves of gloupy mud below me and I felt an arm grab me at the back of my neck and whip me up and there were Jeff and Tim side by side, both in white tops, with mad curly hair, looking at me with great big beaming smiles. I wish I could have bottled that feeling! They both had magic in them which kind of bewiches me when I listen to them. I am so glad they both created music.

[hannah4440]

Jeff over Tim anytime, magical and all that tim was, Jeff (for me) had a more beautiful, softer more soulful effect, actually I don't like to compare them, as they were both FANTASTIC!

[LifeOfAnOutlaw]

People understand that Jeff never got get the chance to grow. We'll never get to know what he would have done and may have been in the future If stayed alive. He had some big shoes to fill. Tim, Jeff Buckley RIP

[LifeOfAnOutlaw]

People understand that Jeff never got get the chance to grow. We'll never get to know what he would have done and may have been in the future If stayed alive.

[ElectricLabel]

Jeff Buckley was amazing, a very special talent indeed, I was fortunate enough to meet him, and we spoke about his father. A lovely bloke. But I cannot get my head around the suggestion that Grace is a better record than Happy Sad, and while its true he had a bigger vocal range, its just incorrect to say he had more control. Tim Buckley sang with abandon, but controlled, eg. on "Look at the Fool", he had far better technique than I ever heard Jeff demonstrate. Jeff played better guitar though!

[hannah4440]

ok, I never said that Jeff was better than Tim, If you read what I said you'll see I feel that Jeff was the best thing Tim produced (better than any of his songs that is ) surely you can't take offense at that! after all his son is surely more important than his songs, also I do prefer Jeff, that's just my preference, so don't get all heated up over a simple comment! peace to all

[MsOndine]

@hannah4440, I don't think your remark was disrespectfully meant at all. However Tim Buckley fans probably are getting a bit annoyed from the fact that their idol has to live in the shadow of his son, while he at least was as talented as his son; and made 9 studio albums instead of (almost) 2 in his even shorter life. I admire them both heavily. But lately I am enjoying Tim a bit more than Jeff.

Peace to you too.

[hannah4440]

ok, I never said that Jeff was better than Tim, If you read what I said you'll see I feel that Jeff was the best thing Tim produced (better than any of his songs that is ) surely you can't take offense at that! after all his son is surely more important than his songs,

[LoveforGia]

anyone who says jeff didnt like or respect or admire his father, just totally missed the whole goddam thing, the whole damn point ok you just weren't listening, you believed what he wanted you to think what he would tell you, but his music and lyrics keep the truth of his heart and soul. thanks for posting this, i was curious as to what this cover sounded like after reading about it.

[WithTheLightsOut]

Anyone have this in an mp3 or something?

[WithTheLightsOut]

with being recognized/known as "Tim Buckley's kid". He struggled with that for most of his career. Yet, in his journals, he occasionally praised some of Tim's work, even wishing that he could've played guitar with him, feeling that he could've done a better job than the "studio cats". Ultimately, I think it was just a sad and unfortunate situation for all involved.

[WithTheLightsOut]

Well, Tim had a lot of issues. He was married at such a young age and he had a lot of problems with his own father. He wanted to pursue music instead of fatherhood. I'm not saying it's right, not in the slightest.

As for Jeff, Jeff seemed to definitely have a love/hate relationship with his father. He didn't have the chance to attend the funeral, so for him, this show was a goodbye to his father.  Even though his father's career certainly spawned interest in him, he had a very big problem

[finsko1]

Regardless of the relationship between Jeff and his dad, this

was a tribute concert for Tim, so it seems fair to refer to it as

a tribute to his father.

The "Don't leave me again this way" at 7:30 is chilling

when interpreted wrt his relationship with his dad

(as are the lyrics to "What would you say").

I like that both Gary Lucas and GE Smith (of Saturday

Night Live and Fur Peace Ranch fame) are playing.

[hannah4440]

I love Tim buckley, but have to say that the best thing he ever produced was, JEFF BUCKLEY, no disrespect to Tim, so thanks Tim for Jeff, and thanks Jeff for covering this magical song, RIP ANGEL

[theachtungtree]

@hannah4440 the best thing?how disrespectful,I've been a fan of both long ago & i came to realize that musically jeff songs were so simple against tim's work on Blue Afternoon,Lorca & Starsailor...way more daring & challenging plus this video & other live shows ive seen from jeff proves that tim was a far superior as a live singer...when hitting high weird notes tim sounded pretty comfortable & made it look effortless whereas jeff cracked clearly had such hard time sometimes in that matter

[ginadxxx]

@theachtungtree Jeff struggled his whole life to avoid comparisons to his father, considering how different they are i think the disrespectful part may be the decision that one is better than the other. Peace.

[theachtungtree]

@ginadxxx umm...you're right

[prouck]

@theachtungtree shows how little you know. Anyone with a half decent musical ear, can easily tell that vocally Jeff was, by far, the superior singer both on record and live, bigger range, more dinamic, more power, more control. He was simply a better singer. As for the songwritng, Tim made 9 records, Jeff made 1, and that 1 was better than anyone of Tim's first 4 records. And you can tell Jeff was growing musically far quicker than his father had, he simply ran out of time to show it.

[theachtungtree]

@prouck garnted...jeff was good but grace?seriously?more original and daring than starsailor and lorca?...for my money...grace was generic pop,world and (sometimes) alternative rock music from the era....the leap between blue afternoon, lorca and starsailor was seriously a struck of musical growing....,starsailor had better songwriting (witness song to the siren) and challenge than any generic song jeff ever had....you know shit about music,just a fanboy you are, jeff barely holds up live too

[prouck]

@theachtungtree maybe if you weren't so stupid you would have been able to read what i actually wrote, and notice i mentioned Tim's first four albums, not starsailor or lorca, you fucking retard. And the fact you claim jeff couldn't hold up live and did anything generic, just shows you're complete ignorance about music. So why don't you shut up because you embarrassing yourself, idiot.

[theachtungtree]

@prouck AS A SINGER JEFF WAS GREAT BUT FAILED SEVERAL TIMES AS A LIVE PERFORMER,HERE HE CRACKED LIKE SOME GUY DOING KARAOKE,TIM NEVER DID THAT COVERING OR DOING HIMSELF.FACT:JEFF NEVER DID ANYTHING CLOSE TO "SONG TO THE SIREN",TIM'S MOST FAMOUS SONG,SAD FACT:JEFFS MOST CELEBRATED SONG WASN'T WRITTEN BY HIM REALLY. UNLIKE JEFF TIM WASN'T COMFORTABLE REPEATING HIMSELF,JEFF?BETWEEN CRACE & SKETCHES THERE WASN'T A MUSICAL LEAP,4 YEARS & THE SAME ALTERNATIVE BACKGROUND MUSIC IN THE MAKING,PERIOD

[MMesh89]

@theachtungtree Also, sometimes Jeff made his voice screamy intentionally, if that's what you mean for "he cracks". Can you point me to some live performances where "he cracked like some guy doing karaoke"?

[tinypaperboat]

@theachtungtree Jeff was barely starting here. He was in his early 20's. Jeff never cracked live when he was actually a professional. And stop with yours caps lock.

[MsOndine]

@tinypaperboat,

I'm afraid that he sometimes did crack live and this always happened in his lower register (and lower notes of his middle register) - just listen to his live performances of Lover You Should've Come Over - which was never very strong. Tim had a far more evenly developed voice from his lowest notes to his highest falsetto tones. Jeff had an angelic voice when he used his falsetto though.

[Achromos656]

@MsOndine You sir are highly fed and lowly taught. Jeff was amazing even when he was performing 15+ shows a week.

[MsOndine]

@Achromos656

Because I wrote down a few critical remarks about Jeff? You know I studied singing myself, so I know a bit what I am talking about. But if you read my messages and visited my channel you would have seen I am a fan.

[MsOndine]

@tinypaperboat,

They were both incredible in their own way. Grace is still one of my favourite albums of all time. But I have to add, I think his father was the real vocal genius. He had one of the best and technically flawless voices in rock. A stunning singing actor, who was able to sing folk as convincingly as funk as jazz as avant garde classical music. A true chameleon.

How good Jeff would have turned out to be when he had lived longer, we unfortunately never will know...

[GuilhermeBlassioli]

@prouck I have no idea what were you discussing about, well not really, I just don't care. But, check Tim Buckley album Goodbye and Hello, his second one. Ah, this song was in it. You should listen to it before say such horrible things.

[MMesh89]

@theachtungtree Jeff barely holds up live? Jeff cracked simply because it tried much harder than his father. Just listen at 4:55 and then go listen his father at Folklore center. Does he go for that note?

Jeff live shows an impressive range and control. I heard much live material of Tim, and nothing really impressed me; but everytime I hear Mojo Pin on Mistery White Boy or Je ne connais pas la fin at Olympia, I am completely speechless.

But I agree that his father was the better songwriter.

[theachtungtree]

@MMesh89 i've heard lots of really bad comments about jeff live at sin-e from his hardcore fans and critics...lots of em saying that the performances were inconsistent,some complaining that it was weak in contrast to his other performances....tim was flawless everytime he was performing & saying that tim wasnt impressive its a bit naive cause several times he had such UNIQUE vocal aproach for the times..when i heard jeff & his albums i think it's a tyipical voice & average alt. album

[MMesh89]

@theachtungtree Sin-e has great performances on it. Maybe some of them were not so great, but understand that it was very early in his career, and he really grew after that. Compare Mojo Pin from there to the one in Mystery White Boy: the latter is seriously stunning.

I want to make clear that it's obvious to me that Tim was the real genius, but what we're discussing here are live performances. I admit I'm a pretty hardcore fan of Jeff, while I approached Tim only recently (continue)

[MMesh89]

@theachtungtree but to me Tim live is not as impressive as Jeff. Sometimes he didn't go for the high notes (see this song performed at Folklore Center), while Jeff always overdid himself (and maybe that's why sometimes he messed up). Jeff was always singing at his limits. Also, I find Jeff voice way more beautiful: especially live, Time sometimes sounded a bit like a... frog?

And talk about versatility: Jeff could go from death metal-like growl (EL from MWB) to soprano singing (Dido's lament)

[theachtungtree]

@MMesh89 so...sometimes jeff messed up shit? good, you were just a stubborn fanboy and finally came to realize that jeff was shitty sometimes...awesome, good to know. ps: lol...tim could go from a dolphin to al green, if you dont know his albums then you better back off on the voice thing....and WOW...from soprano to heavy metal? its more like a competition between egos more than being versatile

[MMesh89]

@theachtungtree No, he was never shitty, you realized that by yourself. "Sometimes he messed up" maybe is an overstatement, what I meant is that obviously, just like any singer, some live performances were not as good as others, and since his songs are so hard it is evident when his voice is not at its best.

But still, I'm waiting for the crappy performances of Jeff and something really impressive by Tim.

And I didn't get the last sentence.

[theachtungtree]

@MMesh89 first its..."sometimes he messed up"...then "I'm waiting for the crappy performances of Jeff " and "no..he was never shitty", great job fanboy, its one way or another dipshit, say it...just fucking say it....he wasn't all that perfect live....some of his hardcore fans even realize that from some of his performances...why cant you? youre just stubborn or some groupie, disgusting

[MMesh89]

@theachtungtree Sorry, but I don't have the will/time to fight with a kid, who's reading only what he wants out of my comments and getting way too aggressive over such a trivial matter

[theachtungtree]

@MMesh89 and i don't have time to fight with hypocrites

[MMesh89]

@theachtungtree Why would I be an hypocrite? And it's just you here who's fighting - I am a very peaceful person and trying to express my ideas in a civil way

[theachtungtree]

@MMesh89 kiss me stupid

[MMesh89]

@theachtungtree Send me a picture of you, if you're an attractive girl I'll gladly do so ;)

[theachtungtree]

@MMesh89 hehe...sorry to dissapoint, that was just a funny line, im a single guy, superlame...but dude...you're italian, i absolutely worship monica vitti from those early 60s films by Antonioni which is btw is one of the greatest treasures in cinema EVER...and my fav italian movie is otto e mezzo by fellini, you guys rock, cheer geniuses...last one i saw was gomorrah...reminds me of salaam bombay and los olvidados by buñuel,pretty fucked up

[MMesh89]

@theachtungtree Gomorrah is about mafia? The book is very famous because he put his life on the line writing that, didn't know they adapted it into a movie. Italian cinema was great but went downhill in the last years (maybe decades, think of Vittorio vs Christian De Sica). I'm a fan of Japanese cinema, I'd pick that over italian any day.And American cinema, of course.

Nice to know you're into movies,I got into that just recently so I'm not very knowledgeable.But I think we're going off-topic ;)

[theachtungtree]

@MMesh89 you shouldnt underestimate fellini or those guys,imo otto e mezzo surpases any jap movie in the early 60s...it was groundbreaking for the times, the social critique,nostalgia,narative,ac­ting and its technically more impressive also...at least in contrast to japanese and american movies for that time...although bergman films are better in the acting thing, what bothered me (still bothers me a bit)its japanese acting plus nowadays they rely on too much violence,just my opinion though

[calliopezerozero]

@MMesh89 actually the author didn't live all what he wrote, it is a novel on true facts but he took most of them from articles of other journalists (many of them still angry at him for not writing credits on the first edition) and wrote in first person for narrative purposes.

[firstofakind]

@theachtungtree Agreed 100%. These guys just don't understand Tim's music and I wonder if any of them have actually bought one of his records and really tried to listen to him closely.

[theachtungtree]

@firstofakind Yeah...i don't know about these "jeff fans", they're kinda....square. Hey NICE CHANNEL BTW...nice work

[TheoJbird]

He did say in an interview that he loved some of his dad's music, he may as well as what's already been said been paying tribute to him as a great musician?

[daniel8574]

wow

[estrogiovanile]

oh God... thanx fo sharing this... really really gentle ^^

Jeff.... RIP

WE LOVE YOU

[mazrio128]

I am the first view on the unveiling of the genius that is Jeff Buckley, when he performed this magical gem at a tribute at St. Ann's church in honor of his awesome father! Imagine, just imagine, being there, Jeff's back turned to the audience, his body spotlighted, and then a quick turn towards the audience as he belted out the opening lines to this magical song, audience blown away; "Oh my God, it's him" (Tim). Awesomeness on every level imaginable!!!!!!!

[iWantToGoToThere]

I am jealous :] <3

[GypsyTheft]

is that really how it happened? Wow....

[TheLiar88]

@GypsyTheft

Jeff did not perform this as a tribute to Tim (he never liked him), but because it held a special importance to him and his mother (it was written about them.) Tim and Jeff were estranged, with Jeff even performing under a different surname early on in his career. Tim left Jeff's mother and only saw Jeff twice in his life.

[GypsyTheft]

were jeff and his mom close? people say that they weren't towards the end.

[Spenceheart]

Actually, I think Jeff resolved issues with his dad before he died. There was a hand written note posted up on a display at the rock hall of fame where Jeff stated something along the lines of "He was my dad, and I love him."

[dtoonzip]

@Spenceheart Yeah, I think he just got sick of the comparisons and mentions of Tim when he'd barely spent any time with the guy.

[sersatan9]

WOW, that is interesting. Just curious what display was that and when? Sorry, I missed it. I did enjoy seeing the handwritten notes that were sent to Rolling Stone magazine when I was there.

[Spenceheart]

@sersatan9 Years ago. Possibly 10 years. He still has 8 years to go before he's eligible for induction into the Rock Hall in Fame, which is kinda whatever, but I'd love to see him in the Song Writer's Hall of Fame.

[sersatan9]

@Spenceheart

If agree with you.

[mazrio128]

@TheLiar88 Yes this is true. I should've wrote that he performed this song at the tribute which was for Tim (whom I perceive as an awesome musician...but a terrible father). I understand the importance of this song to he and Mary. I also view this performance as the passing of the torch from a distant and creative genius of a father, to an utterly amazing and special son who would eventually share a similar fate to his father. Either way, it's incredible. RIP Jeff and Tim.

[theachtungtree]

@mazrio128 he pretty much cracked and teared his voice....tim NEVER did that...ever...on his live albums

[Samneus]

@mazrio128 Hmmm... sounds like a quote-by-quote rip off of the BBC documentary on Jeff Buckley. Thus I believe you are talking crap!

[mazrio128]

@Samneus um? Ok, asswipe. Was that not the feeling that resonated through the building during this performance. Talking crap? Seriously? People were blown away. This was Jeff's first real chance to shine in front of an audience that were in love with Tim's music. Yes, Hal Leonard was right. Wish I was there and was aware of both Jeff and Tim at the time because I would've felt the same way. The only crap around here is that which is oozing from your mouth. Peace.