China hasn't really invented everything , maybe there other part of world that has beaten china but it's not record..toilet paper wasn't invented in china cause back then people use leafs . and leafs are made of tree's same paper..seriously all the china has claimed to invented it has to come somebody..same as hanuman from India influenced china to making monkey king.
You idiots who are arguing make me laugh. Who gives a shit where Karate originated from?...it is Japanese NOT Chinese. Chinese want credit for EVERYTHING. Anyway BOTH styles suck. I got a blackbelt in TKD & that sucks too! All martial arts are beautiful but all have limitations. It makes more sense to train in all areas instead of being limited to a particular art. Muay Thai, Wrestling, BJJ & some Boxing & some weapon defense. Everything else is just for fun & fitness & basic selfdefense.
@realityIZanILLUSION AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH TKD??? FUCKING TKD???? WRESTLING??? You dream to be chris benoit? BJJ? Weapon defense? Sooo many names, for one simple SHIT....
When war falls on your homeland ur black belt is gone belt lover, I bet if instead of belts there was a vibrator or a plastic cock u would lOOOve to use it... "just for the sake of TKD"
@tranglomango I dont get what ur point is. Why dont u think about what ur trying to say & reword ur comment so it makes sense. Why are u even mentioning TKD? Also it looks like u dont like selfdefense training, why is that?
Are these guys from kyokushin? Kyokushin experts don't fight like other styles..it looks like other styles. If they think they can defeat kyokushin, try with Mokoto Nakamura, Francisco Filho, etc then only you know real Kyokushin..Liu hai long and co. shall try real stuff. Real fighting have no rules..NO HOLDS BARRED..allow to kill.
@wiggalama kyokushin was created by a Korean that lived in Japan, and in some ways is very similar to Muay Thai, and though it is 'karate' it is a bit different from standard 'karate'...
Kyokushin trains the endurance of the body, so it can take hits and still win
@pm0834 Dumbass racist, yes Oyama was Korean by blood, but he lived most of his life and was loyal to Japan, NOT South Korea. Further, Oyama took mainly Goju and somewhat Shotokan, and blended it into Kyokushin. He emphasized more full contact and less rules, like GM Funakosh Gigo of Shotokan did. Conditioning techniques are NOT part of a Martial Art, they are subject to the practioner and the teacher.
@wiggalama I don't see how this was 'rac'ist... since the Japanese and Korean all fit under the same race... lol... anyways... I like how classy and intelligent you are. First of all, I didn't post my comment to stir 'nation'alistic complexities. I was merely stating a fact, if you must include your pre-world war sentiments into our lively conversation, do as you wish, but I decline. Also, unless you actually were part of the martial art you really wouldn't know about the art would you
@pm0834 While the japanese and koreans are virtually identical DNA wise, and the Japanese are basically Korean blended with Jomon decent(such as Ainu), what I was talking about is that you consider Oyama to be Korean simply cause of his birth and bloodline while ignoring where he spent and dedicated most of his life. And you commit a logical fallacy by assuming that without exposure I can never know. Does jumping in off a 2 mile high cliff kill you? Most likely. Do I need to test it=noooo :D
@wiggalama Though he was loyal to the Japanese government he was still sympathetic toward the Korean cause, anyways. I see no need in carrying this debate here. Have fun with that if you wish. It would seem you like to argue with people. I don't. so good bye
@finalcs He became a citizen in 2001, bloodline is not what I am talking about, its what country you are owing your loyalty to as well as culture. Both choose japan, so calling them Korean is incorrect.
@ciganodeouro, you kidding me??? without gloves that karate guy would be murdered. he is so outclassed and the kungfu guy here (liuhailong, one of the best) was only playing with him. without glove it would be like this "fighting start ... hailong threw a combo that was way too fast for this poor kyokushin fella, then kyokushin guy panicked and tried to clinch only to find out he was flying in the air, neck hitting floor hard and broken since he doesn't even have a clue how to fall..game over"
i remember a while back when practicing karate, our teacher would teach us the forms and katas, but when it came to sparring.. he would make us do it in a kick boxing form or something freestyle..later on i realized he was also a mixed martial arts guy with jujitsu, karate and boxing..i think he realized that when it comes to fighting, ur body will only use what it remembers...if u think too much when fighting, u will loose..
@homevideowatcher78 That's the general method of most martial arts, in taekwondo we learn up to 16 forms before black belt, but we learn separately the specific fighting stances and attacks.
@Buli0n You can't judge people about their intelligence just because they are pissed off and don't want to have a big debate on the internet. And sometimes a kong fu practitioner wins from a Kyokushin karate practitcioner, and sometimes the other way around. In the end It's just about the person not the style, and this karate guy just fucking sucks!
@bboyfreefighter ok, agree but i can judge a person from words he's using and agree about "And sometimes a kong fu practitioner wins from a Kyokushin karate practitcioner, and sometimes the other way around. In the end It's just about the person not the style" but then STFU and stop tellin' that KK is the best and most powerful and strongest because it isn't!
You guys have to realize that certain martial arts work for some people. Example i'm a tall guy i'm 14 years old and i have really longs leg, martial arts of choice teakwondo see what i mean.
@Johniisss i see were you coming from but this guy isnt onw of the great kung fu/ san shou fighters like cung le. now cung vs Feitsa, that would be awsome.
@jayman45484 Actually, that's Liu Hailong. He was "King of Sanda" for a while. And he would kick six shades of hell out of any kyokushin fighter going. The only guy who could possibly be regarded as a better sanda fighter is maybe Muslim Salikov (whom Liu has beaten, albeit when Salikov was still coming up the ranks)
@jayman45484 Pretty much. :) I've trained at a kyokushin-run kickboxing dojo (and been taught by one of the GB Kyokushin team coaches) in the past, because my sifu was teaching sanshou there, and the minute you shoot for the takedown, they're f***ed - they have no defence techniques for it.
Sanda is probably the most exacting sport there is. At least in MMA, if things aren't going your way, you can just drop and hug your opponent into your guard.
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Arguing about if karate or kungfu is better is useless, both of those arts waste time on katas and forms, if you want a practical application of both arts go with kickboxing
On what basis? Kickboxing was already present in Europe, even before there was a great exposure to East, especially Thailand. Kickboxing was considered more 'unmanly' and 'unfit for a gentleman', but it was practiced as street fighting.
Gong fu and Kung fu are the same thing. They are western words for Wushu. This guy mixed both spelling to create Kong Fu but don't you go thinking this is King Kong style kung fu or anything like that. He just got creative, that's all....
No point arguing San Da is a Open concept MA just like MMA, it will take in whatever MA skill which is useful for them regard chinese Gong fu or not, started in 1920s when KMT use it in WWII lah source: go wiki type sanda u will find the history
That Karate dude is smart. He knows that Sanshou dude is trying to take him down by grasping his wrest, so he lock that dude's head and take him down first lolz
he's not even chinese... its cung le and he's a vietnamese fighter who learned sanshou, muay thai, taekwondo, and wrestling. he's a pro mma fighter as well as a kickboxer...
OH HELLZ NAW!!! i did NOT just hear some cracked out "youtube warriors" say Liu Hai Long was a tae kwon do practitioner. in fact, that dude is known as the conqueror of Muay Thai for defeating so many of Thailand's best thai fighters using sanda. and uh, that kick is in just about every traditional martial arts style there is. u name it, ninjitsu, karate, tae kwon do, kung fu (which sanshou is a part of), they all have that kick.
Glad to see someone who actually studies a little bit of history before they spout off drunk on "Cybercourage"... and especially glad to see someone who knows that San Shou is just a sparring method contained in every single one of Kung Fu's many lineages... it means free fighting, a good analogy would be the words "Vale Tudop" in Brazilian Portuguese... means "anything goes" and describes the training environment more than the style of fighter...
i swear to god people these days are small minded, This fight was between a 'sanshou' fighter vs a 'kyokushin' fighter, just because the sanshou guy did some consecutive kicks doesn't mean it's TKD u num nuts!!! and just remember this is a like a k1 fight with takedowns so anything goes.
taekwondo ! lol u don't know that taekwondo been broght to korea by Korean monks who learn the kung fu from ShaoLin temple, taekwondo is similar like ShaoLin dragon 18 ways kick. u better check out taekwondo vs Shaolin
no, taekwondo was developped by a korean general after WWII to give korea a better martial art than the japanese karate. if this plan has worked has to be decided by the fighter.
Wow... His better art is a laughing stock of Martial arts... Nowdays TKD is nothing but point sparring and a BS version of Karate. Basically his plan to have a better MA than Japan has failed in that its just a crapy sport version of Karate lol Iv also seen the military version and its a copy of Japanese Karate, aikido and Judo... It legally shouldent even be alowed to be called Taekwondo lol Its all copied from Japan accept the 4% taken from Taekkyun...
Sambos moves are all from jujutsu as well lol bjj is just a more modern version of jujutsu. They dont teach grappling with swords or spears lol No one really needs to learn that lol So bjj is more Jujutsu of the world today and alot more for ring fighting...
yup you are right this is arbkhan black belt 2 dan in taekwondo . definitely the two consecutive kicks were taekwondo watch my vid you will see 8 of them consecutive
the chinese fighter was definitley taekwondo and idk what the japanese guy was caues he went for some super fail headlock... for reference ima 4th dan in TKD so i know for a fact that is tkd being used by the chinese guy in red
Your talking about the roundhouse kick and then spring off the other leg and roundhouse again right? That move is used alot in TKD, but I saw this whole fight, its sanda kung fu, not Taekwondo. That move is used in almost all asian martial arts lol
Chinese Kung Fu? The commentator rightly said: Look, he (the Chinese Guy) used a Tae Kwan Do technique.......What Chinese Kung Fu? Just because he's from China does not mean he uses Chinese Kung Fu, looked alot like kick-boxing to me.
which Chinese Kung Fu did this come from? Let's see, Shaolin, nope, nothing like this, baqua, nothing like this, wingchun, nope, taichi, nope, baji, nope, five anchestors, certianly not........if you know anything about sanda, it originated from kickboxing and thai-boxing, and the first demo fight was actually in the early 90s, but to sell it to the un-initiated chinese audience it was easier to call it "Chinese Kung fu". Please do your research.
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Sanda means "loose fighting" ie, without form, without style. the first sanda fighters were Chinese Army wrestling and boxing people who learnt TKD to improve their kicks, that's historical fact that sanda did not come from Chinese Kung Fu and it is fading in China as a sport because more and more the audiences realise this.
Sanda IS a mix between the best and most effective Kung fu styles as well as others of different countries. It was created (mixed to one style) by the Chinese government for the army, the armys version has alot more Kung fu to it, moves designed to kill people less than to win a sport. The army version still incorperates moves like the chop, groin kicks, kicks to knee joints. You cant denaie Kung fus presence in sanda... btw TKD is BS version of Karate, Karate comes from Kung fu =)
many techniques are actually from Shaolin, "kick boxing" was made by a Japanese man, he mixed Karate (which orgins are kung fu) and boxing. the grappling aspect of Sanda is from
Shuai Jiao, to record Shuai Jiao is 3000 years old, but techniques can be found going back to 5000 years. It incorpereates many tactics from wing chun,like controling the center line.And by the way, Muay Thai owes its base to Kung fu as well, as do all the asian arts. Sanda is alot more Kung fu than you give credit...
@vbadkarateNmcdojos Do your research sanda is a mixture of kung fu punches kicks throws and grapples If you think it's a copy of muay thai and other martial arts you are completely wrong.
to tangfastic12: Karate comes from Okinawa which indeed had some influences from Chinese Kung Fu... but you obviously do not know much about Japan and other Japanese martial arts and you are just repeating something you heard ;)
@tranglomango hm, i read that karate evolved in osaka, due to the restriction of using weapons. original fighting arts likeYawara, Koryu Ju Jutsu and Bujutsu mixed with Shaolin Quan ! its not such an old martial art.Historians state, it can be surely traced back to the 19th century. some say it to be older. Kung fu is the origin of many martial arts. everything has good sides, and bad sides. even popular martial arts like muay thai and jiu jitsu
@tranglomango Okinawa's taught Japanese people Karate. Okinawa's went over to China to learn Kung Fu and came back to Okinawa and changed it to suite them, then in the early 1900s i think the Okinawa's taught it to Japan.
What is today North & South Korea was a part of the Japanese Empire from 1910CE until 1945CE. Karate came from the Ryukyu Han what is today Okinawa Ken. Before 1872 Okinawa was the Ryukyu O Kuni the Kingdom of the Ryukyu. This is where Karate came from not Korea or Japan. By 1879 the Kingdom of the Ryukyu was no more it was taken over by Japan and became part of the Japanese Empire and by the 1920s Okinawans were teaching their art in mainland Japan.
Pft! Where did you get that information from buddy?
Karate is not even Japanese or Chinese of that matter. It's actually Okinawan. The Okinawan tribes of the Okinawa islands developed it. But then some time later the island officially became a part of Japan. In order for the Okinawan people to fit in with the Japanese, the fighting style became more Japanese and even more when they taught it to the Japanese. Learn your history first before you state some nonsense.
the Okinawan martial arts, especially Karate (goju ryu) was directly influenced and formed from chinese martial arts. This is a fact and can not be argued. Go study the lineage of martial arts. Give enough time they all actually end up coming from India oddly enough. By the way i am not a chinese martial artist. I practice kyokushin but i am realistic about the lineage. I practice bjj as well but I am aware that bjj came from japanese jiujitsu etc...
@tranglomango Actualy karate as a word has japanese origin. More specificaly Kyokushin karate was developed by Mas Oyama who was DEFINAETLY japanese. I think you would have to be pretty naive to think that the chinese were the first people to discover unarmed combat.
@milkwasabadchoice131 As a practitioner of Kyokushin, I have to say that Mas Oyama was actually Korean, but he was a Korean born in a time when the Japanese controlled the peninsula. So, like many from his generation, he took a Japanese name and studied Japanese fighting after he didn't become a kamikaze pilot (seriously). But what really matter about him was his dedication to his art, his testing it, improving it, and by doing so improving other arts that trained against him.
@tranglomango Actually it isn't the end of the story, it's not even the proper start. Kung fu was taught to the Okinawans who modified it as their war with the Japanese progressed, creating a style of their own which was then taken by the Japanese and modified again when the Japanese won the invasion of Okinawa. It doesn't even end there, because new chapters have been added by so many school branchings the story simply doesn't end.
@tranglomango I know what are you trying to say, but the way you put it is totally wrong! don't call me boy cause I probably know more about martial arts than you... also practice for a long time...different martial arts...maybe I want to say that Kung fu was taught to chinese ppl by Indians!!! and Indians learned it from animals? you know what i mean boy?
@epicureo25 Indians? what Indians? u mean an Indian monk called Bodhidharma? were u born at the time? r u that sure? come on man stop hating, u r a karate ka or what? karate sucks ass, major ass, it has a pity ass 500 years old, not mentioning Kyokushin shit wich has even less, while Kung fu has thousands of years of existence and evolution NOT MENTIONING EXPIRIENCE...so yeah karate comes from kung fu crane style but the japs always done it wrong, most things in japs culture comes from chinese
@tranglomango I don't argue that...what I argue is that Karate is in many ways superior than kunf fu...look at MMA.?? don't tell me that evolution is a bad thing! Karate is a copy and evolution of kung fu...kung fu is a copy and evolution form other things...and so on!
@epicureo25 Why superior? where? MMA is a sport and has little use in real combat situations, besides MMA it's not a martial art, MARTIAL ARTS ARE MEANT TO KILL TO SURVIVE, MMA IS MEANT FOR SHOW OFF IN A RING UNDER CONTROLED ENVIRONMENT...in REAL and traditional kung fu you are taught to gouge an eye to take ur oponents vision, to smash his balls in order to deliver great pain on your oponents groin...
@epicureo25 to end it, in kung fu (not the one you know of course) u r taught to survive by any means, it was developed from an understanding of how and of what wild animals would require to survive and kill their preys or rivals...Karate derives from a quick and weak understanding of Kung fu principals and basics wich are Kincking, punching, grabing, throwing and twisting, than the part of "killing" comes, the gripping, the gouging, the poking and for example even biting.
@epicureo25 You and most ppl are to closed in mind, not even worth the time, stay with your karate and MMA and continue being an ignorant in my opinion to my heart's content
@epicureo25 btw, check out something really cool! do u KNOW what is a MIAO DAO?? I believe u don't, check it out and I can bet what u will think "duh a japanese katana?!" wrong mr knows it all, in front of u is the CHINESE SWORD that gave birth to the "japanese" katana, that's right!! the japs done it again, they went into the imitation of a superior culture the Chinese. The miao dao as derived from other long sabers from kung fu arsenal such as zhanmadao, Changdao and Dadao
@epicureo25 do u like soccer?? chinese ppl invented it too! and gunpowder? they found it too, I woud also mention that japan was founded by a chinese traitor a loooong time ago
@bluokeywushey so what?? Kung fu has thousands of years of development and existence and karate? karate has some stupid 500 years...Kickboxing some 50 probably less and taekwondo? some other 50? the kung fu elders in China must say " we got to pitty these fools who have only discovered the arts of fighting so lately, now they give them names and call themselves masters"
@bluokeywushey u say chinese kung fu came from india, not ALL kung fu came from India, however just because an Indian monk is known to visiting china in his travels and to develop a fighting system based in animal moves does not mean he is the creator of Kung fu or that kung fu came from India, besides there is many theorys and nobody knows for sure, and u know why???? because Kung fu date back before christ u "smart boy"
yes i did, but the japanese guy doesn't know kyokushin karate that's for sure and the title doesn't make sense, ok??.. however i know that kyokushin is better, cause i 've fought kung fu practitioners and they make many unecesary movement's when fighting!!
You amuse me Stardusthill ^_^ you actually think you are smarter than him well unlike a stupid ass like you he does his research in crane. 50 megs. com. That is how he knows this is a sanda vs karate fight you on the other hand can't tell anything and nobody likes karate spammers like you opening your mouth and spreading nonsense and you know he's right infact you know kung fu fighters have beaten karate fighters quite alot. either accept it or shut your childish ranting mouth.
don't make me laugh!!, yomtumthai, i don't know what are you talking about, the only that i know it's that kung fu it's not better, cause i've fought with kung fu practitioners and i've beaten them up, and if you think that kung fu it's better just because the fact of watching some videos you are wrong, i can say the same thing just for watching this video
To Stardusthill he's not saying kung fu is better than karate. There have been fights where kung fu wins and there have been fights where karate wins but what we don't like is karate fans like you saying shit like karate is better than girly dancing kung fu but we have proof that karate is not better.
....don't be stupid man, i'm not saying karate it's better just beacuse i found many videos on youtube, i'm saying that because i' ve fought with kung fu practitioners and i prove my self that kung fu it's not better.
Kungfu is pretty horrible though when you compare it to arts like BJJ, Kickboxing etc because Kungfu takes to long to learn and once your a blackbelt you still arent realy even street ready yet because kungfu doesnt address combat training adequetly, Kickboxers are in much better shape than kungfu fighters ( Because you get a way better workout from heavy bag training / focus pads than doing any amount of forms you want ) and because kickboxing has been modified to be effective kungfu has not
@hazard2000 and if I didn't know people Kung Fu fighters workout from heavy bag training too...and if ur saying Kung Fu is horrible then ur also saying Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Donnie Yen, Bruce Lee, are all weak.
in your head !!! you are wrong kung fu panda, hazard2000 and LouieAK47 have all reason!!! most of kung fu techniques are useless against other art martials, on UFC no one want to know kungfu cause is useless on real fighting, is useful only to make movies and exhibitions, but not to much in a real fight, cause many of the techniques are like dancing and take to much time to strike a hit, for doing unecessary movements. Bruce Lee know many art martials and mixed, not Kung Fu only.
hahhaa that kick comes from tae kwon do!! EPIC FAIL!!!
epicureo25 1 month ago
@epicureo25 a kick is a kick...and human beings kick since the dawn of man, Taek Won do has only 50 or 60 years old, give me a break
tranglomango 1 month ago
China hasn't really invented everything , maybe there other part of world that has beaten china but it's not record..toilet paper wasn't invented in china cause back then people use leafs . and leafs are made of tree's same paper..seriously all the china has claimed to invented it has to come somebody..same as hanuman from India influenced china to making monkey king.
hotpopcorncake 2 months ago
You idiots who are arguing make me laugh. Who gives a shit where Karate originated from?...it is Japanese NOT Chinese. Chinese want credit for EVERYTHING. Anyway BOTH styles suck. I got a blackbelt in TKD & that sucks too! All martial arts are beautiful but all have limitations. It makes more sense to train in all areas instead of being limited to a particular art. Muay Thai, Wrestling, BJJ & some Boxing & some weapon defense. Everything else is just for fun & fitness & basic selfdefense.
realityIZanILLUSION 2 months ago
@realityIZanILLUSION i totally agree i done bunch arts and it's true.
hotpopcorncake 2 months ago
@realityIZanILLUSION AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH TKD??? FUCKING TKD???? WRESTLING??? You dream to be chris benoit? BJJ? Weapon defense? Sooo many names, for one simple SHIT....
When war falls on your homeland ur black belt is gone belt lover, I bet if instead of belts there was a vibrator or a plastic cock u would lOOOve to use it... "just for the sake of TKD"
tranglomango 1 month ago
@tranglomango I dont get what ur point is. Why dont u think about what ur trying to say & reword ur comment so it makes sense. Why are u even mentioning TKD? Also it looks like u dont like selfdefense training, why is that?
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
Karate is Japanese Wushu.
zakquack 4 months ago
Liu Hai Long = 1/10 Cung Le
dembuontinhle 6 months ago
both fail?
Pandaras 6 months ago
people karate was made in a small island called okinawa with okinawa people in it.
japan took okinawa through war and now the island is called okinawa japan.
japanese people took the fghting style and called it karate and added judo to it end of story.
liquidstakeeater 6 months ago
Are these guys from kyokushin? Kyokushin experts don't fight like other styles..it looks like other styles. If they think they can defeat kyokushin, try with Mokoto Nakamura, Francisco Filho, etc then only you know real Kyokushin..Liu hai long and co. shall try real stuff. Real fighting have no rules..NO HOLDS BARRED..allow to kill.
TheMrbeanmsia 6 months ago
sorry but you have made two little mistakes in the title.
First one is a spelling mistake (kung fu, or sanda).
Second one is that it is very unusual to see a karate fighter fighting without his kimono so i think it could be a kick-boxer.
heracles04 6 months ago
What the hell was that supposed to be? San shou and Kyokushin? Its virtually teh same as each other and Mauy Thai under sport rules guy.
wiggalama 8 months ago
@wiggalama kyokushin was created by a Korean that lived in Japan, and in some ways is very similar to Muay Thai, and though it is 'karate' it is a bit different from standard 'karate'...
Kyokushin trains the endurance of the body, so it can take hits and still win
pm0834 8 months ago
@pm0834 Dumbass racist, yes Oyama was Korean by blood, but he lived most of his life and was loyal to Japan, NOT South Korea. Further, Oyama took mainly Goju and somewhat Shotokan, and blended it into Kyokushin. He emphasized more full contact and less rules, like GM Funakosh Gigo of Shotokan did. Conditioning techniques are NOT part of a Martial Art, they are subject to the practioner and the teacher.
wiggalama 7 months ago
@wiggalama I don't see how this was 'rac'ist... since the Japanese and Korean all fit under the same race... lol... anyways... I like how classy and intelligent you are. First of all, I didn't post my comment to stir 'nation'alistic complexities. I was merely stating a fact, if you must include your pre-world war sentiments into our lively conversation, do as you wish, but I decline. Also, unless you actually were part of the martial art you really wouldn't know about the art would you
pm0834 7 months ago
@pm0834 While the japanese and koreans are virtually identical DNA wise, and the Japanese are basically Korean blended with Jomon decent(such as Ainu), what I was talking about is that you consider Oyama to be Korean simply cause of his birth and bloodline while ignoring where he spent and dedicated most of his life. And you commit a logical fallacy by assuming that without exposure I can never know. Does jumping in off a 2 mile high cliff kill you? Most likely. Do I need to test it=noooo :D
wiggalama 7 months ago
@wiggalama Though he was loyal to the Japanese government he was still sympathetic toward the Korean cause, anyways. I see no need in carrying this debate here. Have fun with that if you wish. It would seem you like to argue with people. I don't. so good bye
pm0834 7 months ago
@wiggalama do u consider yoshihiro akiyama to be korean or japanese?
finalcs 7 months ago
@finalcs He became a citizen in 2001, bloodline is not what I am talking about, its what country you are owing your loyalty to as well as culture. Both choose japan, so calling them Korean is incorrect.
wiggalama 7 months ago 3
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thats lui hi long his style is sanda - sanshou not traditional kung fu
kingsupa13 9 months ago
thats lui hi long his style is sanda - sanshou not traditional kung fu
kingsupa13 9 months ago
I wanna see the chinese boy without gloves...under kyokushin rules!
ciganodeouro 10 months ago
@ciganodeouro, you kidding me??? without gloves that karate guy would be murdered. he is so outclassed and the kungfu guy here (liuhailong, one of the best) was only playing with him. without glove it would be like this "fighting start ... hailong threw a combo that was way too fast for this poor kyokushin fella, then kyokushin guy panicked and tried to clinch only to find out he was flying in the air, neck hitting floor hard and broken since he doesn't even have a clue how to fall..game over"
1980cakra 9 months ago
@ciganodeouro to bad sanda fighters catch kicks hit with elbows and knees and have great Chinese quick wrestling skills karate doesn't stand a chance
kingsupa13 9 months ago
nice kicks @ liu hailong.
waldomarek 1 year ago
This is both chinese and kung fu....stupid game
farmoon1 1 year ago
@farmoon1, too hard for you to accept that all the school fees charged by your fancy kyokushin schools is money going down the drain?
1980cakra 9 months ago
i remember a while back when practicing karate, our teacher would teach us the forms and katas, but when it came to sparring.. he would make us do it in a kick boxing form or something freestyle..later on i realized he was also a mixed martial arts guy with jujitsu, karate and boxing..i think he realized that when it comes to fighting, ur body will only use what it remembers...if u think too much when fighting, u will loose..
homevideowatcher78 1 year ago
@homevideowatcher78 That's the general method of most martial arts, in taekwondo we learn up to 16 forms before black belt, but we learn separately the specific fighting stances and attacks.
ajwall1 11 months ago
you mean kung fu :D
PunchMy 1 year ago
wow i totally wanted to see 15 seconds of the fight instead of the whole thing thumbs down.
na6drifter 1 year ago
???? ...¿pero donde esta el Kung Fu y donde el Kyokushinkay???
OkinawaT 1 year ago
Why is the video so short?
SuperClindley 1 year ago
True face of kyokushin karate.
Buli0n 1 year ago
@Buli0n fuck off!
bboyfreefighter 1 year ago
@bboyfreefighter and intelligention of practitioners...
Buli0n 1 year ago
@Buli0n You can't judge people about their intelligence just because they are pissed off and don't want to have a big debate on the internet. And sometimes a kong fu practitioner wins from a Kyokushin karate practitcioner, and sometimes the other way around. In the end It's just about the person not the style, and this karate guy just fucking sucks!
bboyfreefighter 1 year ago
@bboyfreefighter ok, agree but i can judge a person from words he's using and agree about "And sometimes a kong fu practitioner wins from a Kyokushin karate practitcioner, and sometimes the other way around. In the end It's just about the person not the style" but then STFU and stop tellin' that KK is the best and most powerful and strongest because it isn't!
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@guardianlordmaster you are retarded because you can't read.
Buli0n 1 year ago
@guardianlordmaster you americans can't read even in your main language.
Buli0n 1 year ago
That aree kickboxing both are bad, i think so.,
Ultimativnaruto 1 year ago
You guys have to realize that certain martial arts work for some people. Example i'm a tall guy i'm 14 years old and i have really longs leg, martial arts of choice teakwondo see what i mean.
Nikolas100o10oao 1 year ago
@Nikolas100o10oao it is a good choice friend but when turning ur legs into spears u should also have fists as daggers
tranglomango 1 year ago
uhh that wasnt kyokushin that guy sed tai shun tao meaning tae kwon do
kehhvin 1 year ago
you could atlest spell kung fu right
thejin666 1 year ago
Kyokushin?...u mean Kyokugenryu Karate or something?
rynplyr7 1 year ago
@rynplyr7 Kyokushin Karate- founded by Masutatsu Oyama
shinkyoku123 1 year ago
I saw the full fight, Karate swallowed the dust... hehehehe!
robertvoice 1 year ago
@robertvoice Not karate, that guy swallowed the dust, would like to see that Kung fu guy take on Globe Feitosa or some other Kyokushin greats.
Johniisss 1 year ago
@Johniisss i see were you coming from but this guy isnt onw of the great kung fu/ san shou fighters like cung le. now cung vs Feitsa, that would be awsome.
jayman45484 1 year ago
@jayman45484 Actually, that's Liu Hailong. He was "King of Sanda" for a while. And he would kick six shades of hell out of any kyokushin fighter going. The only guy who could possibly be regarded as a better sanda fighter is maybe Muslim Salikov (whom Liu has beaten, albeit when Salikov was still coming up the ranks)
misterfallen 1 year ago
@misterfallen oh sorry buddy i didnt know this, but sanda would kick the shit out of any karate fighter!!!
jayman45484 1 year ago
@jayman45484 Pretty much. :) I've trained at a kyokushin-run kickboxing dojo (and been taught by one of the GB Kyokushin team coaches) in the past, because my sifu was teaching sanshou there, and the minute you shoot for the takedown, they're f***ed - they have no defence techniques for it.
Sanda is probably the most exacting sport there is. At least in MMA, if things aren't going your way, you can just drop and hug your opponent into your guard.
misterfallen 1 year ago
@misterfallen yeh you definatley know what your talking about,
still cant wait for this coming monday when im going to china to train in san shou for a month.
jayman45484 1 year ago
@robertvoice
It turns out the karate one isn't actually a karate practitioner. some kind of kung fu.
MaBu888 1 year ago
Nice Kung Fu in ring combat.
hazza3 1 year ago
The krate guy sucks.
maomao667 1 year ago
it's sanda , not kong fu
DarkMusicFever 2 years ago
@DarkMusicFever Sanda is Freestyle kung fu with rules... All chinese martial arts arte Kung Fu.
robertvoice 1 year ago
@DarkMusicFever sanda is the basic skeleton of all kung fu forms and principals
tranglomango 1 year ago
Apparently none of you watched the full video. This small segment was part of a real competition. And yes, the kyokushin (blue) lost.
flapplewapple 2 years ago
do you have the full video?
ryanc519 2 years ago
watch?v=5N_vPPKNt60
yup.
flapplewapple 2 years ago
chinese vid
Picxxt 2 years ago
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Arguing about if karate or kungfu is better is useless, both of those arts waste time on katas and forms, if you want a practical application of both arts go with kickboxing
hazard2000 2 years ago
haha yea you would take american kick boxing over mui tai
armand111 1 year ago
in a way, american kickboxing is offspring of mui thai
TSkniaz 1 year ago
You are exactly right. Muay Thai was introduced into America but it was so dangerous with elbows and what not, that is where kick boxing originated.
LouieAK47 1 year ago
@LouieAK47
but it wasn't only thai boxing, but a combination of different kickboxing styles, including Savate, Japanese Kickboxing, and others
TSkniaz 1 year ago
Yeah but it was mainly.
LouieAK47 1 year ago
@LouieAK47
On what basis? Kickboxing was already present in Europe, even before there was a great exposure to East, especially Thailand. Kickboxing was considered more 'unmanly' and 'unfit for a gentleman', but it was practiced as street fighting.
TSkniaz 1 year ago
simple kung fu is cantonese and wushu is mandarin no?
meano747 2 years ago
Gong fu and Kung fu are the same thing. They are western words for Wushu. This guy mixed both spelling to create Kong Fu but don't you go thinking this is King Kong style kung fu or anything like that. He just got creative, that's all....
josepablobolanos 2 years ago
Kung Fu is a western word for Wushu
AlexThePrivate 2 years ago
@AlexThePrivate wushu means martial art when kung fu means perfecting the work..and they way diferent
tranglomango 1 year ago
Its not kung fu is Wushu. Am I right?
AlexThePrivate 2 years ago
No. kung fu = Wushu. This is Sanda.
estantodosmuertos 2 years ago
@AlexThePrivate no
tranglomango 1 year ago
who is kung fu who is karate?
MrNepalikancha101 2 years ago
chinese kong fu vs japan kyokushin China:Red Japan:Blue
sbhg 2 years ago
hahahahhahhahahahahaa...KONGFU
fund4ment 2 years ago
Kong fu? Who invented that? King Kong?
MouthofSaurons 2 years ago
Rofl
Happyanand69 2 years ago
i guess must be your mom
DAHANTIANZI 2 years ago
This is a Chinese Sanda champion from China vs a nobody in Kyokushin Karate whose Japanese, that was called over to China to face the Sanda champion.
cruelgrotequeblood 2 years ago
No point arguing San Da is a Open concept MA just like MMA, it will take in whatever MA skill which is useful for them regard chinese Gong fu or not, started in 1920s when KMT use it in WWII lah source: go wiki type sanda u will find the history
saejyun 2 years ago 2
thats no shu, looks more than new sumo ...
ganimidis 2 years ago
That Karate dude is smart. He knows that Sanshou dude is trying to take him down by grasping his wrest, so he lock that dude's head and take him down first lolz
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
sanda
nickmjq 2 years ago
he's not even chinese... its cung le and he's a vietnamese fighter who learned sanshou, muay thai, taekwondo, and wrestling. he's a pro mma fighter as well as a kickboxer...
mrjohngarland28 2 years ago
TY for finally figuring it out xD
haloman123123 2 years ago
no problem!!!
mrjohngarland28 2 years ago
no, he's not cung le. he is Liu Hailong, a chinese shada fighter.
nickmjq 2 years ago
OH HELLZ NAW!!! i did NOT just hear some cracked out "youtube warriors" say Liu Hai Long was a tae kwon do practitioner. in fact, that dude is known as the conqueror of Muay Thai for defeating so many of Thailand's best thai fighters using sanda. and uh, that kick is in just about every traditional martial arts style there is. u name it, ninjitsu, karate, tae kwon do, kung fu (which sanshou is a part of), they all have that kick.
dss103 2 years ago
Glad to see someone who actually studies a little bit of history before they spout off drunk on "Cybercourage"... and especially glad to see someone who knows that San Shou is just a sparring method contained in every single one of Kung Fu's many lineages... it means free fighting, a good analogy would be the words "Vale Tudop" in Brazilian Portuguese... means "anything goes" and describes the training environment more than the style of fighter...
Indra420 2 years ago
i swear to god people these days are small minded, This fight was between a 'sanshou' fighter vs a 'kyokushin' fighter, just because the sanshou guy did some consecutive kicks doesn't mean it's TKD u num nuts!!! and just remember this is a like a k1 fight with takedowns so anything goes.
xflybabyflyx 2 years ago
taekwondo ! lol u don't know that taekwondo been broght to korea by Korean monks who learn the kung fu from ShaoLin temple, taekwondo is similar like ShaoLin dragon 18 ways kick. u better check out taekwondo vs Shaolin
hippo314 2 years ago
no, taekwondo was developped by a korean general after WWII to give korea a better martial art than the japanese karate. if this plan has worked has to be decided by the fighter.
Mudjin 2 years ago
Wow... His better art is a laughing stock of Martial arts... Nowdays TKD is nothing but point sparring and a BS version of Karate. Basically his plan to have a better MA than Japan has failed in that its just a crapy sport version of Karate lol Iv also seen the military version and its a copy of Japanese Karate, aikido and Judo... It legally shouldent even be alowed to be called Taekwondo lol Its all copied from Japan accept the 4% taken from Taekkyun...
GuamKomudo 2 years ago
Well, BJJ is in fact also just a combination of Japanese Jiu Jitsu and Luta Livre and Sambo is a combination of boxing, karate, judo and aikido.
Mudjin 2 years ago
Sambos moves are all from jujutsu as well lol bjj is just a more modern version of jujutsu. They dont teach grappling with swords or spears lol No one really needs to learn that lol So bjj is more Jujutsu of the world today and alot more for ring fighting...
GuamKomudo 2 years ago
yup you are right this is arbkhan black belt 2 dan in taekwondo . definitely the two consecutive kicks were taekwondo watch my vid you will see 8 of them consecutive
arbkhan 2 years ago
the chinese fighter was definitley taekwondo and idk what the japanese guy was caues he went for some super fail headlock... for reference ima 4th dan in TKD so i know for a fact that is tkd being used by the chinese guy in red
HyperlightV 2 years ago
Your talking about the roundhouse kick and then spring off the other leg and roundhouse again right? That move is used alot in TKD, but I saw this whole fight, its sanda kung fu, not Taekwondo. That move is used in almost all asian martial arts lol
GuamKomudo 2 years ago
Chinese Kung Fu? The commentator rightly said: Look, he (the Chinese Guy) used a Tae Kwan Do technique.......What Chinese Kung Fu? Just because he's from China does not mean he uses Chinese Kung Fu, looked alot like kick-boxing to me.
vbadkarateNmcdojos 2 years ago
Hes doing Sanda Kung fu, its a mix between Kung fu and boxing. Hes Chinese and he is doing Kung fu, you never saw Sanda/Sanshou before???
GuamKomudo 2 years ago
which Chinese Kung Fu did this come from? Let's see, Shaolin, nope, nothing like this, baqua, nothing like this, wingchun, nope, taichi, nope, baji, nope, five anchestors, certianly not........if you know anything about sanda, it originated from kickboxing and thai-boxing, and the first demo fight was actually in the early 90s, but to sell it to the un-initiated chinese audience it was easier to call it "Chinese Kung fu". Please do your research.
vbadkarateNmcdojos 2 years ago
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Sanda means "loose fighting" ie, without form, without style. the first sanda fighters were Chinese Army wrestling and boxing people who learnt TKD to improve their kicks, that's historical fact that sanda did not come from Chinese Kung Fu and it is fading in China as a sport because more and more the audiences realise this.
vbadkarateNmcdojos 2 years ago
Sanda IS a mix between the best and most effective Kung fu styles as well as others of different countries. It was created (mixed to one style) by the Chinese government for the army, the armys version has alot more Kung fu to it, moves designed to kill people less than to win a sport. The army version still incorperates moves like the chop, groin kicks, kicks to knee joints. You cant denaie Kung fus presence in sanda... btw TKD is BS version of Karate, Karate comes from Kung fu =)
GuamKomudo 2 years ago 5
@GuamKomudo perfect, u got it all pall congrats :D
tranglomango 1 year ago
many techniques are actually from Shaolin, "kick boxing" was made by a Japanese man, he mixed Karate (which orgins are kung fu) and boxing. the grappling aspect of Sanda is from
Shuai Jiao, to record Shuai Jiao is 3000 years old, but techniques can be found going back to 5000 years. It incorpereates many tactics from wing chun,like controling the center line.And by the way, Muay Thai owes its base to Kung fu as well, as do all the asian arts. Sanda is alot more Kung fu than you give credit...
GuamKomudo 2 years ago 4
@GuamKomudo and u know what friend I AM MORE THAN GLAD THAT PPL DOES NOT KNOW ABOUT ALL THIS, that way i will be stronger ;D
tranglomango 1 year ago
@vbadkarateNmcdojos Do your research sanda is a mixture of kung fu punches kicks throws and grapples If you think it's a copy of muay thai and other martial arts you are completely wrong.
SunWukong4 1 year ago
@vbadkarateNmcdojos u guys realy have to watch a guys moves to say wht he practices or not? give us a break
tranglomango 1 year ago
Red: China
Blue : Japan
ChinaFreund 2 years ago 2
Kung fu Guy fought better. But is not the style, but the fighter.
robertvoice 2 years ago 4
Fool ForestBoo, fool comments
cgh5199 2 years ago
poor chinese poor k-fu
ForestBoo 2 years ago
kyokushin karate is better than kung fu, no doubt
Stardusthill 3 years ago
Did you even watch the video before commenting? :S
tangfastic12 2 years ago
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Lol the interesting part is that those few hits that the chinese guy did are mawashis from karate.. hehe :)
YukiLT 2 years ago
lolz.. other way round blud.
Karate and other Jap martial arts come from kung fu.
Japs stole everything from the Chinese.. their writing (changed some characters).. made the Chinese look like fools.
Allow Japs are hype blud.
tangfastic12 2 years ago
to tangfastic12: Karate comes from Okinawa which indeed had some influences from Chinese Kung Fu... but you obviously do not know much about Japan and other Japanese martial arts and you are just repeating something you heard ;)
jazzyslip 2 years ago 5
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Mate, you're white.
Don't get involved.
tangfastic12 2 years ago
to tangfastic12: oh I see it is a color issue... then forgive me but it is hard to consider your point of view seriously...
jazzyslip 2 years ago 9
@YukiLT karate was taught to japanese ppl by chinese kung fu users end of story
tranglomango 1 year ago 28
@tranglomango
well in fact it was taught to okinawarian people, wich was a mix between chinese and japanese people
deadmike2 1 year ago
@tranglomango hm, i read that karate evolved in osaka, due to the restriction of using weapons. original fighting arts likeYawara, Koryu Ju Jutsu and Bujutsu mixed with Shaolin Quan ! its not such an old martial art.Historians state, it can be surely traced back to the 19th century. some say it to be older. Kung fu is the origin of many martial arts. everything has good sides, and bad sides. even popular martial arts like muay thai and jiu jitsu
achalter 1 year ago
@achalter do you mean Okinawa? and Karate is basicly the new version of Te or Ti old Okinawan style there are some traditional Karate/Te/Ti though
boehmtj 9 months ago
@boehmtj yes! i accidentally wrote Osaka. In fact i meant Okinawa =)
achalter 9 months ago
@achalter oh ok :)
boehmtj 9 months ago
@tranglomango Okinawa's taught Japanese people Karate. Okinawa's went over to China to learn Kung Fu and came back to Okinawa and changed it to suite them, then in the early 1900s i think the Okinawa's taught it to Japan.
boehmtj 9 months ago
@tranglomango ummm... somebody got their info wrong... karate was influence by korean martial arts
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@tranglomango
lol it was not really like that ^^
xXSHUKOKAIXx 7 months ago
@tranglomango It wasn't actually. Karate was taught to the Japanese by the Koreans, not the Chinese.
ChadS14 7 months ago
@ChadS14 What I'm saying to you?Not stop forgeries tub.
MrFruitmilk 7 months ago
@ChadS14 is that sarcasm?
etreke 7 months ago
@ChadS14 Sir
What is today North & South Korea was a part of the Japanese Empire from 1910CE until 1945CE. Karate came from the Ryukyu Han what is today Okinawa Ken. Before 1872 Okinawa was the Ryukyu O Kuni the Kingdom of the Ryukyu. This is where Karate came from not Korea or Japan. By 1879 the Kingdom of the Ryukyu was no more it was taken over by Japan and became part of the Japanese Empire and by the 1920s Okinawans were teaching their art in mainland Japan.
1banryukyu 7 months ago
@tranglomango
Pft! Where did you get that information from buddy?
Karate is not even Japanese or Chinese of that matter. It's actually Okinawan. The Okinawan tribes of the Okinawa islands developed it. But then some time later the island officially became a part of Japan. In order for the Okinawan people to fit in with the Japanese, the fighting style became more Japanese and even more when they taught it to the Japanese. Learn your history first before you state some nonsense.
PauhovXiong 5 months ago
@PauhovXiong
the Okinawan martial arts, especially Karate (goju ryu) was directly influenced and formed from chinese martial arts. This is a fact and can not be argued. Go study the lineage of martial arts. Give enough time they all actually end up coming from India oddly enough. By the way i am not a chinese martial artist. I practice kyokushin but i am realistic about the lineage. I practice bjj as well but I am aware that bjj came from japanese jiujitsu etc...
Ilanactingreel 5 months ago
@PauhovXiong there is many ignorant people like him. it's useless to argue with 3 year olds ;)
DonMega187 4 months ago
@tranglomango Not that easy.
HermesDo 4 months ago
@tranglomango Actualy karate as a word has japanese origin. More specificaly Kyokushin karate was developed by Mas Oyama who was DEFINAETLY japanese. I think you would have to be pretty naive to think that the chinese were the first people to discover unarmed combat.
milkwasabadchoice131 4 months ago
@milkwasabadchoice131 As a practitioner of Kyokushin, I have to say that Mas Oyama was actually Korean, but he was a Korean born in a time when the Japanese controlled the peninsula. So, like many from his generation, he took a Japanese name and studied Japanese fighting after he didn't become a kamikaze pilot (seriously). But what really matter about him was his dedication to his art, his testing it, improving it, and by doing so improving other arts that trained against him.
slobmarley 4 months ago
@slobmarley oh, i swear i watched a doco about him that siad he was japanese :( but i could be wrong :S
milkwasabadchoice131 4 months ago
@tranglomango Actually it isn't the end of the story, it's not even the proper start. Kung fu was taught to the Okinawans who modified it as their war with the Japanese progressed, creating a style of their own which was then taken by the Japanese and modified again when the Japanese won the invasion of Okinawa. It doesn't even end there, because new chapters have been added by so many school branchings the story simply doesn't end.
psychedashell 4 months ago
@tranglomango karate was taught to japanese ppl by chinese kung fu users?? how that make sense? end of story??? lol!! loser!
epicureo25 3 months ago
@epicureo25 check the thumbs boy, check them well, they save me the trouble of giving u a history lesson
tranglomango 3 months ago
@tranglomango I know what are you trying to say, but the way you put it is totally wrong! don't call me boy cause I probably know more about martial arts than you... also practice for a long time...different martial arts...maybe I want to say that Kung fu was taught to chinese ppl by Indians!!! and Indians learned it from animals? you know what i mean boy?
epicureo25 3 months ago
@epicureo25 Indians? what Indians? u mean an Indian monk called Bodhidharma? were u born at the time? r u that sure? come on man stop hating, u r a karate ka or what? karate sucks ass, major ass, it has a pity ass 500 years old, not mentioning Kyokushin shit wich has even less, while Kung fu has thousands of years of existence and evolution NOT MENTIONING EXPIRIENCE...so yeah karate comes from kung fu crane style but the japs always done it wrong, most things in japs culture comes from chinese
tranglomango 2 months ago
@tranglomango I don't argue that...what I argue is that Karate is in many ways superior than kunf fu...look at MMA.?? don't tell me that evolution is a bad thing! Karate is a copy and evolution of kung fu...kung fu is a copy and evolution form other things...and so on!
epicureo25 1 month ago
@epicureo25 Why superior? where? MMA is a sport and has little use in real combat situations, besides MMA it's not a martial art, MARTIAL ARTS ARE MEANT TO KILL TO SURVIVE, MMA IS MEANT FOR SHOW OFF IN A RING UNDER CONTROLED ENVIRONMENT...in REAL and traditional kung fu you are taught to gouge an eye to take ur oponents vision, to smash his balls in order to deliver great pain on your oponents groin...
tranglomango 1 month ago
@epicureo25 to end it, in kung fu (not the one you know of course) u r taught to survive by any means, it was developed from an understanding of how and of what wild animals would require to survive and kill their preys or rivals...Karate derives from a quick and weak understanding of Kung fu principals and basics wich are Kincking, punching, grabing, throwing and twisting, than the part of "killing" comes, the gripping, the gouging, the poking and for example even biting.
tranglomango 1 month ago
@epicureo25 You and most ppl are to closed in mind, not even worth the time, stay with your karate and MMA and continue being an ignorant in my opinion to my heart's content
tranglomango 1 month ago
@epicureo25 btw, check out something really cool! do u KNOW what is a MIAO DAO?? I believe u don't, check it out and I can bet what u will think "duh a japanese katana?!" wrong mr knows it all, in front of u is the CHINESE SWORD that gave birth to the "japanese" katana, that's right!! the japs done it again, they went into the imitation of a superior culture the Chinese. The miao dao as derived from other long sabers from kung fu arsenal such as zhanmadao, Changdao and Dadao
tranglomango 2 months ago
@epicureo25 do u like soccer?? chinese ppl invented it too! and gunpowder? they found it too, I woud also mention that japan was founded by a chinese traitor a loooong time ago
tranglomango 2 months ago 4
@tranglomango
Chinese Kung Fu came from India. End of story
bluokeywushey 2 months ago
@bluokeywushey so what?? Kung fu has thousands of years of development and existence and karate? karate has some stupid 500 years...Kickboxing some 50 probably less and taekwondo? some other 50? the kung fu elders in China must say " we got to pitty these fools who have only discovered the arts of fighting so lately, now they give them names and call themselves masters"
tranglomango 2 months ago
@bluokeywushey u say chinese kung fu came from india, not ALL kung fu came from India, however just because an Indian monk is known to visiting china in his travels and to develop a fighting system based in animal moves does not mean he is the creator of Kung fu or that kung fu came from India, besides there is many theorys and nobody knows for sure, and u know why???? because Kung fu date back before christ u "smart boy"
tranglomango 2 months ago
yes i did, but the japanese guy doesn't know kyokushin karate that's for sure and the title doesn't make sense, ok??.. however i know that kyokushin is better, cause i 've fought kung fu practitioners and they make many unecesary movement's when fighting!!
Stardusthill 2 years ago
Ha! yea right. I seen Jiu Jitsu practitioners take out karate fighters.
yomtumthai2 2 years ago
You amuse me Stardusthill ^_^ you actually think you are smarter than him well unlike a stupid ass like you he does his research in crane. 50 megs. com. That is how he knows this is a sanda vs karate fight you on the other hand can't tell anything and nobody likes karate spammers like you opening your mouth and spreading nonsense and you know he's right infact you know kung fu fighters have beaten karate fighters quite alot. either accept it or shut your childish ranting mouth.
yomtumthai2 2 years ago
don't make me laugh!!, yomtumthai, i don't know what are you talking about, the only that i know it's that kung fu it's not better, cause i've fought with kung fu practitioners and i've beaten them up, and if you think that kung fu it's better just because the fact of watching some videos you are wrong, i can say the same thing just for watching this video
martial arts kung fu vs kyokushin karate
Stardusthill 2 years ago
To Stardusthill he's not saying kung fu is better than karate. There have been fights where kung fu wins and there have been fights where karate wins but what we don't like is karate fans like you saying shit like karate is better than girly dancing kung fu but we have proof that karate is not better.
SunWukong4 2 years ago
whod u fight 3 year olds?
KirkJerky 2 years ago
....don't be stupid man, i'm not saying karate it's better just beacuse i found many videos on youtube, i'm saying that because i' ve fought with kung fu practitioners and i prove my self that kung fu it's not better.
Stardusthill 2 years ago
Just exactly what martial arts do you do to beat kung fu and what kung fu fighters did you fight as in what styles?
SunWukong4 2 years ago
@Stardusthill don't be stupid man, you don't say the art sucks just because u beat someone that practices Kung Fu. You say that the person sucks.
dangerousdynamite 1 year ago 38
Kungfu is pretty horrible though when you compare it to arts like BJJ, Kickboxing etc because Kungfu takes to long to learn and once your a blackbelt you still arent realy even street ready yet because kungfu doesnt address combat training adequetly, Kickboxers are in much better shape than kungfu fighters ( Because you get a way better workout from heavy bag training / focus pads than doing any amount of forms you want ) and because kickboxing has been modified to be effective kungfu has not
hazard2000 1 year ago
@hazard2000 if you don't have any proof about what u just said. It's pointless.
dangerousdynamite 1 year ago
@hazard2000 and if I didn't know people Kung Fu fighters workout from heavy bag training too...and if ur saying Kung Fu is horrible then ur also saying Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Donnie Yen, Bruce Lee, are all weak.
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Stardusthill 3 months ago
in your head !!! you are wrong kung fu panda, hazard2000 and LouieAK47 have all reason!!! most of kung fu techniques are useless against other art martials, on UFC no one want to know kungfu cause is useless on real fighting, is useful only to make movies and exhibitions, but not to much in a real fight, cause many of the techniques are like dancing and take to much time to strike a hit, for doing unecessary movements. Bruce Lee know many art martials and mixed, not Kung Fu only.