you know games have testers that point out flaws if you dont like it why r u clearly posting a videio of you playing and still complining shut up and stop playing if you dont like it you sound like a 10 year old complining about every littlw thing oh look a sonic game im a play it (12 minets later) im a post a video of me playing it and complining while im playing it still even tho i hate it... ugh shut up please
i see where you your results and i have no arguement's against it but think about what the gameplay actually is. it's exellant and I'm not certain where 8/10 comes for Sonic and the secret rings
I'm surprised that some people actually enjoyed this. You can't even block enemy attacks, what a joke. The game tries to be super fast, but since you constantly have to stop in order to fight, it's pretty useless, and overall just annoying. Run fast, stop, run fast, stop...you get the point. That alone pretty much just ruins the gameplay for me, and the huge amount of waggle makes it even worse.
Then again, I was never a fan of Super Mario Sunshine, yet the Mario nuts absolutely love it.
@thelastgogeta Glad to know that I can block with Z, but I don't care about any of that other stuff. It's still a wagglefest, which, alone, ruins the game for me. Twilight Princess's waggle sucks, but at least you don't have to do it that often compared to this game. The only way to fight enemies without slowing down is to do jump-attacks. Spending the entire time doing jump-attacks is button-mashing and mindless waggling at the same time. Far from impressive, gets old VERY quickly.
You clearly didn't know. You may be one of the BEST examples of definitely not playing the game but complaining about a functional title yet... >_>
Think about it statistically. Enemies in Twilight Princess take MULTIPLE swings for each foe even when you are at your peak. Enemies in take one slash at most when you at your peak, you don't slow down at all (and can speed up if you played it) plus multiple can be taken down with even GROUNDED attacks without slowing.
It's like GT says: there's a reason why you shouldn't run with scissors; the two don't mix well, and Black Knight is a perfect example of that.
And no, I'm not a GT fanboy, Mario fanboy, or Sonic hater, as I thought GT's review of Colors was a pile of crap, and I thought IGN nitpicked a little too much in their own review.
@reddeadauto1111 Personally, I don't think the Nightime levels are as bad as some make them out to be, but compared to other brawlers & fighting games, they were average at best.
Been debating whether to pick this up. I got secret rings and its a good game, just not a great sonic game. Though the whole waggle thing is probably gonna make me say no even Though I'm a big Sonic fan. I mean waggle is why I won't buy twilight princess on the Wii (getting Gcube version)
Jesus, all those comments defending this game makes me feel sick. One thing is to like it (although, I still think it is crap) but another is to rant to everyone that give this "game" a low score and accuse them from being retards just because they found it to be good (and they probably found it to be good just because there is Sonic on it). Geez, the Sonic fanbase is so fucked up nowadays >__>
@nunchuk28 i totally agree, although the real reason why the fanbase is an embarrassment to the franchise is because of the haters, not the worshippers. i can't believe that you did not get any thumbs up for that comment, as i completely agree and i'm not a fanboy.
@nunchuk28 you mean the people who protested against sonic 4, or the people who defended it? i would have to go with the former. first they complained about the new sonic games feeling different from the classics, but then they complained about sonic 4 being very similar to the classics. either they are trying to hate the franchise, or they just can't make up their minds.
@nerftendo005 the people who protested against it. Sure, they consider the genesis trilogy the only good games. But when they get a sequel to the trilogy, instead of being celebrating, they complain.
The only thing that really gets to me about this game is that 2nd battle against Black Knight. I should pick this game up again. Its not as bad as people say.
I don't think this game is horribad. But Black Knight is definitely a subpar game. Secret Rings was a flawed, if not competant start to what could've been a fresh new outing for Sonic games. The ideas were there and pretty good, it just needed to be fleshed out more.
Black Knight took whatever positive points and charm Secret Rings built up and shits all over them while adding a dash of it's own original clunk and garbage. It's really unfortunate.
hey neverchris. did you play the entire game? cos ive noticed that a lot of reviewers only play the first half, up to the point where you fight king arthur, and dont know or care about the part where you play as knuckles blaze and shadow.
I really like your reviews. You give out the best criticism and really do much better reviews than idiots like IGN. However, I would of given this game around a 6/10. You have to give credit towards its awesome presentation and decent story. However, the controls DID suck.
neverchris is every games biggest critic, which is could, because it makes you aware of something/everything bad about the game. This is why neverchris is slightly different to other reviewers.
whats sad about sonic spinball is that in playing it i saw it could have been a great game. the controls were pretty good and the levels were at least imaginitive. what i didnt like about it was that the game was so cheap. i would die for the stupidest resones like sonic would rocket at an angle to his doom and you also would have to be a master an angles to get sonic to shoot in the direction you wanted to go. i think they could probly remake it but better.
this game isnt as bad as you all think i have it and i enjoyed it and any way who are you all to say its bad at least sega got up off there ass and made this game for you fucktards to play if you dont like this game lets see you make a better game all by yourself
Sega's a big company. I think the gigantic staff over there should be able to put something better together than this steaming pile. I'm sorry you like such thrown together crap, man.
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ok lets start of... number 1: you sound like theres a dick stuck down ur throat. number 2: your on crack and L.S.D for rating this game a 4/10, it deserves a 7/10 u retard. and number 3: your tits are bigger than your moms
Sorry... not a good review... 4/10 for this game? COME ON, there's worst games than this one in the entire videogame history! The only negative points are the clunky controls and it's very short... Other than that, it's really fun and entertaining! If i've finished this game with a smile on my face (i'm a real videogame-boy), it means that it was a good game! My opinion...
@blacknight999 I would consider "clunky controls" to be a really huge negative. Aside from being playable & functional, and being fast-paced AT TIMES, I don't have a single good thing to say about the gameplay. 4/10 seems perfectly fair. Saying that this isn't the worst game ever is a pretty poor excuse to how boring this game is.
And this is coming from somebody who was slightly disappointed with SMG2, loved the Colors demo for DS, and really wants Colors for Wii & DS. So no, I'm not anti-Sonic
I think the main problem with why this game was a dissapointment was that after great Sonic games like Sonic Rush Adventure and Sonic Unleashed it was very easy to look down upon Black Knight. Still I find the game decent and more fun than Secret Rings.
at first, i thought that the wii motion thing was cool. but then after a while i got tired of flicking my wrist for every single game. i also cant play without my family thinking im jacking off because every time i shake the remote, the bed bangs the wall. i sit on my bed when i play. the only types of games im going to buy now is zelda, mario, and smash bros games. those games turn out good. other than that, i buy games for the 360.
im not really sure... i sorta liked the game, but since the first sonic game i ever played was sonic advanced 2 and sonic heroes (oh god i LOVE that game), im not really sure how sonic should really look like.
Honestly this is, in my opinion, THE WORST SONIC GAME EVER. Worse than Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis. Worse than Sonic '06. Worse than Spinball. The main reason is everything Chris pointed out. None of it works. I forced myself to complete this game, hated every second of it, and will never touch it again. I managed to enjoy Sonic '06, got all S ranks, played through it twice, but I just can't stomach this. I am so sick of motion controls shoehorned in with no thought.
Yeah. I don't even think most of the 3D sonic games were too good, but I liked them. But this is what just really destroyed a lot of my love for sonic.
Imo, I really liked this game the better than the SU, not saying that SU sucks at all, you know, but, the Werehog stages were too annoying. The fail at SatBK, imo, was the too short lenght of the story, I think it could have been a little more explored. Anyway, I still wait for a sonic game to be better than SA2 ( wich was the best 3d sonic franchise, for me).
dude he said waggling suck for some games but sonic and the insane waggle while trying to keep up your speed sucks. He never said waggling the wiimote in general suck.
you cant blame twilight princess, its "random waggling" was responsive, and DID work. the wii remote is special in the fact that the controller depends on the game. how responsive the controls on the the game are the fault of the developers, and twilight pricess had much more effort than this gimmick.
@AL1NO3 i totally agree. not to mention that in TP you could do a jump attack by pressing A, and the spin attack was extremely powerful and easy to do. also, after knocking enemies backward, you can usually just kill them by pressing A to do a finishing blow.
in black knight, all attacks require waggle, and you have to waggle about every 5 seconds or less thanks to the bad enemy placement and sonic running forward EXTREMELY fast without stopping except to fight enemies.
i don't understand why it is so difficult to Sega to make a Sonic game where you just run around and collect rings. No stupid things as werehogs, swords or guns please.
Lol. Its kind of the same logic with Sonic Drift. its like WTF?!?! Why the hell is sonic in a fucking car? He'd be better off with the Flinstone's car.
So you like the idea, just thought it was developed poorly (levels, controls and etc.). Well now that I think on it, I would somewhat agree, though I thought it was exciting HALF the time (loved the final boss though). So you're right, this game could have been a whole lot better. Though I would say this is a good example of a 5 to 6 out of 10 game (in other words: it's as average as the Werehog)
P.S. I'm sorry for that comment I made on this review a while back.
i read about that in a magizine. They said it was a conspiracy by Yuji Naka to kill sonic off. But we all know sonic fan boys/girls will never let that happen
Sonic Team employs hundards of people, many of which probably want to keep there jobs. - Getting a job in the games industary is hard, so I doubt many of them would want to throw it away.
I were replying to someone who said Sonic Team themselves wanted to destory the Sonic brand, willingly. - Which is absurd.
I did not deny that SEGA wanted to close down its Sonic Team department. With the uncertain financial situation SEGA are still in, they would save money in the short term by closing down Sonic Team's development team, and hiring a third party developer to work on Sonic games. But it would be suicide if they cancelled the Sonic brand.
I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but a 4.0 just isn't what this game deserves. I mean, I understand if he hates the game, but with a review like this, I'd ditch the scores.
You seem a little harsh. I've never played this particular Sonic game, but from hearing your thoughts, I think you should've given it a 5, becuase it appeared that you felt really average about it.
i went to a part and brought my ps3 and little be planet and someone brought sonic and the black knights, no one wanted to play little big planet they said the game was boring and sackboy looked gay then they said that black knight was 100x better thant little big plaent then i showed them this review :)
I can't understand why everyone complains about this game's controls, I got them in the first level. Running through the levels randomly swinging the sword won't give you the same experience as actually learning the controls. The homing attack is there for a reason after all.
For the "wagle" sword swinging as opposed to the "No More Heroes-adjustable-sword-swinging" gamplay: yeah, but if the players are focused on speed, is it really neccessary to focus on complex sword-swinging like that found in 'No More Heroes'? Don't get me wrong, 'No More Heroes' IS a good game, but I don't think that having that kind of sword-play would mix in well with a game such as this. Besides, there are other attacks you can pull off with "wagling" the Wii-mote and using the control stick
Why sould there be a reason? No More Heroes has you beating up enemies constantly in one area. Sonic and the Black Knight on the other hand is focused on combat WHILE running. If the game relies heavily on the sword swinging, then it wouldn't be a fun game, or atleast it wouldn't be a "Sonic Game"
I mostly agree, this game was obviosly rushed. dew to the prior release of sonic unleashed, sega had the crazy idea that thier needs to be a new sonic game every 5 mounths. even though sonic is ausome, sega should try harder to not kill him.
if they would have fixed the wii remote from random shaking wrist to an apropriate form of slicing stabbing and evn stabbing. i can honestly say this pretty much criples this game. the soul surge works nicely...particularly with lancelots ultimate weapon. CHAOS BLAST!!!!
I liked it. I like the idea of it but it can be fun at points but other times it can be just plain boring. I am still glad I got it but I can only play it sometimes for a shrOt burst of fun..im my opinion its OK...
I disagree with your review but I respect your opinion because you bothered to play through the game properly and gave an honest opinion. Although the whole graphics thing I completely disagree with. The environments are anything but "dull" in my opinion and they are probably better than Secret Rings but hey still like the review because it was funny and interesting.
You know, as much as I disagreed with you overall, I still really enjoyed that review. You had good humor and valid points. It's also nice to see you realize that Sonic is about platforming and not just a game where you race to the goal sign, like a few OTHER people I could mention...
BTW you said the next Wii game begins with an O. My best guess is Offroad Extreme! Special Edition (although that might be a bad guess, considering that is a DDI title).
Personally I think SEGA should give Sonic a rest. I believe if you use a particular character again and again repeatedly, despite using new concepts, then it gets deteriated and this sort of thing will result in declining quality.
Do you believe that SEGA should allow Sonic to Rest Neverchris?
Maybe not necessarily a rest, but they need to treat the franchise better, put out some top quality games, and perhaps even map out some sort of comprehensible storyline. Really they should probably lay quiet for awhile, and then put out a really great game, like Sonic Unleashed but with no tacked on BS, and a storyline that everyone will think is cool.
Whoops, sorry. Didn't mean to put the four. But really, the game is bad the way you play it. Using the jump and such makes it better. Not to mention using that backflip (A+Back) if you missed something helps alot.
I don't wanna say your biased or any of that junk because your not but I'm just saying the game is at least a decent entry if you use what's available. Besides, usually when you have a kill 50+ enemies can be done easily without slashing away at every enemy.
Thanks for the advice although I do know how to play the game although I specifically record footage prior to completely mastering the game. Not that I really want to master this game, and a good game would motivate me into naturally mastering it.
True but it does make the game more fun, though I do have to say that the waggle part may be because the player waggles. If you actually "swing" the Wiimote you might get more enjoyment. Still, I can definitley see the "OMG I hate it" parts in the game.
this was more of a rant on the gameplay and not a review, since you almost never mentioned the graphics, story (or whats going on), bonus content, etc. you just bitched about the gameplay. not really a review
I use the time I have to talk about the things that are most important and not covered in every othe review. Wikipedia probably makes a great companion to my reviews. The graphics though, I did mention, and you can see them in the video. The story is there is no story.
*After playing through this wagglefest* .... WHY... DID I PLAY THIS?
Awesom3Gamer 2 weeks ago in playlist neverchris
This game is a repetitive wagglefest. That's boring as fuck.
AllieRX87 1 month ago
you know games have testers that point out flaws if you dont like it why r u clearly posting a videio of you playing and still complining shut up and stop playing if you dont like it you sound like a 10 year old complining about every littlw thing oh look a sonic game im a play it (12 minets later) im a post a video of me playing it and complining while im playing it still even tho i hate it... ugh shut up please
ApacheWolfSoul 3 months ago
@ApacheWolfSoul This video is a review.
neverchris 3 months ago 4
Mr.Awesome: You have a annoying, nasally voice. Not good for a reviewer unless you want people to go insane from your talking..
MrAwesomenMario360 3 months ago
this game sucks all you do is hold up and shake the wii remote
WTFvimeoNFTW 3 months ago
i see where you your results and i have no arguement's against it but think about what the gameplay actually is. it's exellant and I'm not certain where 8/10 comes for Sonic and the secret rings
Smashlikeapro124 8 months ago
As screwy as this game really is, it does have some decent music to listen to.
Monacomaverick 9 months ago
2:38-2:53
"first, FUCK YOU. second, just because i happen to own a dick doesn't necessarily feel the need to rape my friends in the ass every time i see them."
DevilsFreak17 10 months ago
"i didn't mind the whack-tiled story of sonic the hedgehog becoming martin lawrence and banging an entire city of oompa loompas." 1:04-1:14
DevilsFreak17 10 months ago
in Comic Book Guy words:
WORST.GAME.EVER
davem1992ftw 11 months ago
Based on your year old replies for this game, it sounds like you think it's a 1/10.
ShadowStar1224 1 year ago
I completely agree with this review. =(
Riders8D 1 year ago
lol you only recorded parts where you get hit by enemies or you really suck...
TheGJustas 1 year ago
I'm surprised that some people actually enjoyed this. You can't even block enemy attacks, what a joke. The game tries to be super fast, but since you constantly have to stop in order to fight, it's pretty useless, and overall just annoying. Run fast, stop, run fast, stop...you get the point. That alone pretty much just ruins the gameplay for me, and the huge amount of waggle makes it even worse.
Then again, I was never a fan of Super Mario Sunshine, yet the Mario nuts absolutely love it.
nerftendo005 1 year ago
@nerftendo005
Did you press the Z button?
>_> You can block from the start in this game...
And did you learn how to run and attack, bounce and dodge to make things flow?
If you know how to play, you will use one "waggle"/swordswing per multiple foes and get faster while doing it.
Comments like yours always give me the feeling no one even plays the games they talk about anymore...
thelastgogeta 1 year ago
@thelastgogeta Glad to know that I can block with Z, but I don't care about any of that other stuff. It's still a wagglefest, which, alone, ruins the game for me. Twilight Princess's waggle sucks, but at least you don't have to do it that often compared to this game. The only way to fight enemies without slowing down is to do jump-attacks. Spending the entire time doing jump-attacks is button-mashing and mindless waggling at the same time. Far from impressive, gets old VERY quickly.
nerftendo005 1 year ago
@nerftendo005
You clearly didn't know. You may be one of the BEST examples of definitely not playing the game but complaining about a functional title yet... >_>
Think about it statistically. Enemies in Twilight Princess take MULTIPLE swings for each foe even when you are at your peak. Enemies in take one slash at most when you at your peak, you don't slow down at all (and can speed up if you played it) plus multiple can be taken down with even GROUNDED attacks without slowing.
thelastgogeta 1 year ago
It's like GT says: there's a reason why you shouldn't run with scissors; the two don't mix well, and Black Knight is a perfect example of that.
And no, I'm not a GT fanboy, Mario fanboy, or Sonic hater, as I thought GT's review of Colors was a pile of crap, and I thought IGN nitpicked a little too much in their own review.
nerftendo005 1 year ago
good one
911tifa 1 year ago
Excelent review. Indeed, brute honesty does hurt for all these sonic fanboys.
aelita5 1 year ago
sonic unleashed was pretty fun because during the day you run and during the night u kick ass
reddeadauto1111 1 year ago
@reddeadauto1111 Personally, I don't think the Nightime levels are as bad as some make them out to be, but compared to other brawlers & fighting games, they were average at best.
nerftendo005 1 year ago
Been debating whether to pick this up. I got secret rings and its a good game, just not a great sonic game. Though the whole waggle thing is probably gonna make me say no even Though I'm a big Sonic fan. I mean waggle is why I won't buy twilight princess on the Wii (getting Gcube version)
FireFlowerWeegee 1 year ago
Jesus, all those comments defending this game makes me feel sick. One thing is to like it (although, I still think it is crap) but another is to rant to everyone that give this "game" a low score and accuse them from being retards just because they found it to be good (and they probably found it to be good just because there is Sonic on it). Geez, the Sonic fanbase is so fucked up nowadays >__>
nunchuk28 1 year ago
@nunchuk28 i totally agree, although the real reason why the fanbase is an embarrassment to the franchise is because of the haters, not the worshippers. i can't believe that you did not get any thumbs up for that comment, as i completely agree and i'm not a fanboy.
nerftendo005 1 year ago
@nerftendo005 both of them can be equally bad. I think the Sonic 4 protestors are a solid proof of this
nunchuk28 1 year ago
@nunchuk28 you mean the people who protested against sonic 4, or the people who defended it? i would have to go with the former. first they complained about the new sonic games feeling different from the classics, but then they complained about sonic 4 being very similar to the classics. either they are trying to hate the franchise, or they just can't make up their minds.
nerftendo005 1 year ago
@nerftendo005 the people who protested against it. Sure, they consider the genesis trilogy the only good games. But when they get a sequel to the trilogy, instead of being celebrating, they complain.
nunchuk28 1 year ago
@nunchuk28 exactly, i hated that, too
nerftendo005 1 year ago
The only thing that really gets to me about this game is that 2nd battle against Black Knight. I should pick this game up again. Its not as bad as people say.
BigBossMan538 1 year ago
Sega could have done better
choji876 1 year ago
I don't think this game is horribad. But Black Knight is definitely a subpar game. Secret Rings was a flawed, if not competant start to what could've been a fresh new outing for Sonic games. The ideas were there and pretty good, it just needed to be fleshed out more.
Black Knight took whatever positive points and charm Secret Rings built up and shits all over them while adding a dash of it's own original clunk and garbage. It's really unfortunate.
EdmacZ 1 year ago
bad review, deserves much higher score
594Blackninja 1 year ago
hey neverchris. did you play the entire game? cos ive noticed that a lot of reviewers only play the first half, up to the point where you fight king arthur, and dont know or care about the part where you play as knuckles blaze and shadow.
Zeverynth 1 year ago
the sonic team ain't high. sonic is.
spyroman300 1 year ago
I really like your reviews. You give out the best criticism and really do much better reviews than idiots like IGN. However, I would of given this game around a 6/10. You have to give credit towards its awesome presentation and decent story. However, the controls DID suck.
I also found myself enjoying Unleashed and
Secret of the Rings. And I think you could
of mentioned the Sonic Adventure games
and Sonic Rush at the beginning.
Review score: 8/10
BlastofFire1 2 years ago
Well what did you expect, Graaaaaggghhh!
rdDolphinX 2 years ago
I love this game!
Tortarra2 2 years ago
neverchris is every games biggest critic, which is could, because it makes you aware of something/everything bad about the game. This is why neverchris is slightly different to other reviewers.
YellowRedBlueGreenie 2 years ago
WELL WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?
pixelgeekproductions 2 years ago
whats sad about sonic spinball is that in playing it i saw it could have been a great game. the controls were pretty good and the levels were at least imaginitive. what i didnt like about it was that the game was so cheap. i would die for the stupidest resones like sonic would rocket at an angle to his doom and you also would have to be a master an angles to get sonic to shoot in the direction you wanted to go. i think they could probly remake it but better.
ninjaboyz101 2 years ago
LOL You're freaking hilaroius dude.
Kevyattk 2 years ago
is it just me or does the beginning of your video (the sound anyway) by chance come from No More Heroes?
bloodzeil 2 years ago
did you have to mention fucking ppl in the ass with your dick? Fuck you, im in a good mood.
tsukakunzack 2 years ago
this game isnt as bad as you all think i have it and i enjoyed it and any way who are you all to say its bad at least sega got up off there ass and made this game for you fucktards to play if you dont like this game lets see you make a better game all by yourself
1andrewman1 2 years ago
Sega's a big company. I think the gigantic staff over there should be able to put something better together than this steaming pile. I'm sorry you like such thrown together crap, man.
neverchris 2 years ago 18
@neverchris personally, i thoought the game was ok, but it did get dull very quick. The cutscenes were only the decent thing to me
Oblivion709 1 year ago
@1andrewman1 this game isnt realy hated no offense
DonteGameReviews 1 year ago
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ok lets start of... number 1: you sound like theres a dick stuck down ur throat. number 2: your on crack and L.S.D for rating this game a 4/10, it deserves a 7/10 u retard. and number 3: your tits are bigger than your moms
jevric123 2 years ago
Nah dude, this is not the game worth getting angry over it. It's clearly a half-finished piece of shoveled out crap.
neverchris 2 years ago 16
@neverchris im not against you but everyone has an opinion
TheMarinePlanet 11 months ago
@neverchris Fuck you piece of shit! Black Knight is at LEAST 15% better than Secret Rings!
Secret Rings = 7/10, so Black Knight = 8.5/10!
GiratinaPikachu 10 months ago
Sorry... not a good review... 4/10 for this game? COME ON, there's worst games than this one in the entire videogame history! The only negative points are the clunky controls and it's very short... Other than that, it's really fun and entertaining! If i've finished this game with a smile on my face (i'm a real videogame-boy), it means that it was a good game! My opinion...
blacknight999 2 years ago 4
@blacknight999 in my opinion a game is`nt good when you can finish it 3 hours thats way to short but the game is entertaining
themetroidhunter111 1 year ago
@blacknight999 I would consider "clunky controls" to be a really huge negative. Aside from being playable & functional, and being fast-paced AT TIMES, I don't have a single good thing to say about the gameplay. 4/10 seems perfectly fair. Saying that this isn't the worst game ever is a pretty poor excuse to how boring this game is.
And this is coming from somebody who was slightly disappointed with SMG2, loved the Colors demo for DS, and really wants Colors for Wii & DS. So no, I'm not anti-Sonic
nerftendo005 1 year ago
I think the main problem with why this game was a dissapointment was that after great Sonic games like Sonic Rush Adventure and Sonic Unleashed it was very easy to look down upon Black Knight. Still I find the game decent and more fun than Secret Rings.
Shadsilvson11 2 years ago
i love this review
undeadretard 2 years ago
at first, i thought that the wii motion thing was cool. but then after a while i got tired of flicking my wrist for every single game. i also cant play without my family thinking im jacking off because every time i shake the remote, the bed bangs the wall. i sit on my bed when i play. the only types of games im going to buy now is zelda, mario, and smash bros games. those games turn out good. other than that, i buy games for the 360.
707tinman707 2 years ago
im not really sure... i sorta liked the game, but since the first sonic game i ever played was sonic advanced 2 and sonic heroes (oh god i LOVE that game), im not really sure how sonic should really look like.
gheith001 2 years ago
first a werewolf and now a sword, are they trying to make it like TP? cuz its not workin....
scizzor21 2 years ago
you remind me of adam sessler.
bliss1083 2 years ago
Honestly this is, in my opinion, THE WORST SONIC GAME EVER. Worse than Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis. Worse than Sonic '06. Worse than Spinball. The main reason is everything Chris pointed out. None of it works. I forced myself to complete this game, hated every second of it, and will never touch it again. I managed to enjoy Sonic '06, got all S ranks, played through it twice, but I just can't stomach this. I am so sick of motion controls shoehorned in with no thought.
cybernerd129 2 years ago
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dariusamaru 2 years ago
Yeah. I don't even think most of the 3D sonic games were too good, but I liked them. But this is what just really destroyed a lot of my love for sonic.
cybernerd129 2 years ago
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3d sonic games are for fags xD
salk3vol 2 years ago
1) Fuck You
2) Just because I have a dick, doesn't mean I'm gonna rape my friends in the ass every time I see them.
LOL.
PrayerPeacePurity 2 years ago
I laughed my ass off
Visser0x 2 years ago
this game sucked I hated it
FJV1996 2 years ago
lol funny and true
u guys need to realise that sonic team is starting to lose its shine
and they should stop the crap and make an all running based sonic game using the day time sonic engine from SU and drop the fantasy story
and stick to the knolege they managed to get from past sucessful games
or another sonic r with SU daytime engine and online play capibility
mario is simple: save the princess and jump on stuff
the only change they made is sports games
y cant sonic stick to loopes?:(
juwonfly 2 years ago
This game was a lot better and more fun than Sonic and the secret rings at least.
I did not like Secret rings that much.
CyberLance26 2 years ago
Imo, I really liked this game the better than the SU, not saying that SU sucks at all, you know, but, the Werehog stages were too annoying. The fail at SatBK, imo, was the too short lenght of the story, I think it could have been a little more explored. Anyway, I still wait for a sonic game to be better than SA2 ( wich was the best 3d sonic franchise, for me).
DarkIceLink 2 years ago
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Tip for you NC Sword wagling doesn't suck. Plus Zelda Twilight princess is one of the best games ever.
GamerLink5 2 years ago
dude he said waggling suck for some games but sonic and the insane waggle while trying to keep up your speed sucks. He never said waggling the wiimote in general suck.
narutofan9423 2 years ago
id give this game a 6.5 and unleashed for the 360 a 9
jackfeva 2 years ago
I'd give SatBK a 8/10 and SU for the wii a 7/10. (My opinion don't flame me.)
GamerLink5 2 years ago
Should of put on the flame shield before you saidd that >:L
Visser0x 2 years ago
Well people should respect other's opinions. Besides there is no way to change peoples' opinions so shut the FUCK up.
GamerLink5 2 years ago
I was not insulting you i was giving you warning, because this is the internet and "respect other's opinions" is a joke :/
Visser0x 2 years ago
same here, except the 6 is changed to a 2 WORST SONIC GAME EVER
sonic06isawesome 2 years ago
I hear that sonic )6 is really rubish, but I don't know, I had the fortune of never having played it.
Rock1Golem 2 years ago
you cant blame twilight princess, its "random waggling" was responsive, and DID work. the wii remote is special in the fact that the controller depends on the game. how responsive the controls on the the game are the fault of the developers, and twilight pricess had much more effort than this gimmick.
Zlykin 2 years ago
to me its look like a copy of zelda a lot
firelordgt 2 years ago
i disagree, in zelda it was pretty minor, u barely had to waggle
AL1NO3 2 years ago 7
@AL1NO3 i totally agree. not to mention that in TP you could do a jump attack by pressing A, and the spin attack was extremely powerful and easy to do. also, after knocking enemies backward, you can usually just kill them by pressing A to do a finishing blow.
in black knight, all attacks require waggle, and you have to waggle about every 5 seconds or less thanks to the bad enemy placement and sonic running forward EXTREMELY fast without stopping except to fight enemies.
nerftendo005 1 year ago
As soon as I saw the game on the cover of an issue of Nintendo Power I knew it was gonna suck.
PuppetMasterIX 2 years ago
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the game is good. i'd rather have a game that's easy but fun to play instead of a game that's hard but not fun to play.
DarkT769 2 years ago
what u say maybe true but i still like the game and im planning on getting the game soon because it looks pretty cool
markkus22 2 years ago
They really need to bring back the original sonic idea, high speeds, and having more freedom in movement instead of having it like a race car game.
As soon as I saw this game I could tell this game was not going to be good, after Sonic heroes, sonic team went down hill.
I agree completely with ya mate.
Oblivion28694 2 years ago
i don't understand why it is so difficult to Sega to make a Sonic game where you just run around and collect rings. No stupid things as werehogs, swords or guns please.
Reigam4 2 years ago
Because, weither you want to believe it or not, it gets dull after awhile.
DarkArtistKaiser 2 years ago
Lol. Its kind of the same logic with Sonic Drift. its like WTF?!?! Why the hell is sonic in a fucking car? He'd be better off with the Flinstone's car.
CynderFan259 2 years ago
So you like the idea, just thought it was developed poorly (levels, controls and etc.). Well now that I think on it, I would somewhat agree, though I thought it was exciting HALF the time (loved the final boss though). So you're right, this game could have been a whole lot better. Though I would say this is a good example of a 5 to 6 out of 10 game (in other words: it's as average as the Werehog)
P.S. I'm sorry for that comment I made on this review a while back.
VideoZatoh 2 years ago
Sonic Team actually gave up on Sonic. They've been trying to make these games bad so they have an excuse to retire.
SynisterSir 2 years ago
i read about that in a magizine. They said it was a conspiracy by Yuji Naka to kill sonic off. But we all know sonic fan boys/girls will never let that happen
icetray123 2 years ago
Neither would SEGA,
Sonic generates far too much money for them to just "kill him off". - They'll only do that once the Sonic series becomes unprofitable.
CCowell125 2 years ago
That's what I read in a magizine. I know sega wouldnt let that happen.
icetray123 2 years ago
I beileve that was a april fools joke.
DarkArtistKaiser 2 years ago
Im just prone to believe that it's true because I mean look what has been produced under sonics name.
But that was ok.
icetray123 2 years ago
Who in there sane mind would do that?
Sonic Team employs hundards of people, many of which probably want to keep there jobs. - Getting a job in the games industary is hard, so I doubt many of them would want to throw it away.
CCowell125 2 years ago
No, you're obviously misinformed. They've wanted Sonic Team to shut down since Sonic heros.
SynisterSir 2 years ago
That wasn't what I were saying.
I were replying to someone who said Sonic Team themselves wanted to destory the Sonic brand, willingly. - Which is absurd.
I did not deny that SEGA wanted to close down its Sonic Team department. With the uncertain financial situation SEGA are still in, they would save money in the short term by closing down Sonic Team's development team, and hiring a third party developer to work on Sonic games. But it would be suicide if they cancelled the Sonic brand.
CCowell125 2 years ago
Great vid with a hilarious comment about rape XD
LOLOLOLOL
DEIVION212 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
If you don't copy and paste this OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!! times nothing special will happen.
But if you do... You need to get a life.
SonicFans468 2 years ago
A 4.0 out of ten!? You probably played at IGNorant level to give this game a 4.0, which is only 0.1 higher than IGN's score.
soranamineforever 2 years ago
I assure you I was fully unignorant of the unhappiness this game was giving me.
neverchris 2 years ago 2
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I never said you were IGNorant, but you must've not played this game well, not actually putting your spirit in a 3D Sonic game.
soranamineforever 2 years ago
lolololol.......
You take this way to seriously.
SonicFans468 2 years ago
It only seems serious compared to how seriously other people are taking Sonic now.
soranamineforever 2 years ago
ROFLCOPTER
SonicFans468 2 years ago
I haven't played this myself, but this looks awful and seeing as I hated even the "good" 3D Sonic games, I can see where he's coming from.
I personally fucking hate 3D Soncis and until Galaxy came out I hated 3D Mario's too.
The thing you've gotta remember though, is that everyone has an opinion and slagging others off for theres is just fucking moronic.
Guys like you really need to watch Clerks and Clerks 2. Because Randall is just a god for how he mocks idiots and other such people.
DEIVION212 2 years ago
I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but a 4.0 just isn't what this game deserves. I mean, I understand if he hates the game, but with a review like this, I'd ditch the scores.
soranamineforever 2 years ago
I smell butthurt.
Fucking faggot ass sonic fan.
SynisterSir 2 years ago
Oh, shut the f**k up and go join one of those 'I hate Sonic' communities
soranamineforever 2 years ago
the concept doesn't work well with sonic, IMO.
smoothy0smoothy 2 years ago
You seem a little harsh. I've never played this particular Sonic game, but from hearing your thoughts, I think you should've given it a 5, becuase it appeared that you felt really average about it.
Spencer24sony 2 years ago
Too bad there's that stupid nunchuk in the way. Otherwise, the Wii Motion Plus would make this game 100% responsive...
GunmasterLombardi 2 years ago
eh.. this game looks too slow to be a sonic game. IMO.
NewCenturyZer0 2 years ago
Fuck YOU. Love this game
BassGeekJack 2 years ago
i went to a part and brought my ps3 and little be planet and someone brought sonic and the black knights, no one wanted to play little big planet they said the game was boring and sackboy looked gay then they said that black knight was 100x better thant little big plaent then i showed them this review :)
Visser0x 2 years ago 2
Why this review...?
This person sucks at the game...
It is like showing you the Yahtzee review of Little Big Planet (except he is to be taken as a joke XD).
thelastgogeta 2 years ago
I can't understand why everyone complains about this game's controls, I got them in the first level. Running through the levels randomly swinging the sword won't give you the same experience as actually learning the controls. The homing attack is there for a reason after all.
wakeangel2001 2 years ago
Agreed.
thelastgogeta 2 years ago
For the "wagle" sword swinging as opposed to the "No More Heroes-adjustable-sword-swinging" gamplay: yeah, but if the players are focused on speed, is it really neccessary to focus on complex sword-swinging like that found in 'No More Heroes'? Don't get me wrong, 'No More Heroes' IS a good game, but I don't think that having that kind of sword-play would mix in well with a game such as this. Besides, there are other attacks you can pull off with "wagling" the Wii-mote and using the control stick
VideoZatoh 2 years ago
Don't say that... people might actually think there is a reason for this combat to become more complex... :O
And the people "certain" that the only control options in the game are run, jump, laggy sword swing, get hit may be found wrong...
thelastgogeta 2 years ago
Why sould there be a reason? No More Heroes has you beating up enemies constantly in one area. Sonic and the Black Knight on the other hand is focused on combat WHILE running. If the game relies heavily on the sword swinging, then it wouldn't be a fun game, or atleast it wouldn't be a "Sonic Game"
VideoZatoh 2 years ago
8/10 hands down
DerianX19 2 years ago
spax would be proud of you guys
projoe719s 2 years ago
I like this game. The gameplay is good to okay, and I love way each cutscene was animated. The story is interesting too. ^^
catlyana13 2 years ago
I have to agree. I liked Secret Rings a lot. But Black Knight is honestly one of the worst games I've ever played.
Metralo 2 years ago
I mostly agree, this game was obviosly rushed. dew to the prior release of sonic unleashed, sega had the crazy idea that thier needs to be a new sonic game every 5 mounths. even though sonic is ausome, sega should try harder to not kill him.
kamatopia 2 years ago
if they would have fixed the wii remote from random shaking wrist to an apropriate form of slicing stabbing and evn stabbing. i can honestly say this pretty much criples this game. the soul surge works nicely...particularly with lancelots ultimate weapon. CHAOS BLAST!!!!
BrAtWiErSt 2 years ago
I liked it. I like the idea of it but it can be fun at points but other times it can be just plain boring. I am still glad I got it but I can only play it sometimes for a shrOt burst of fun..im my opinion its OK...
bengalz3 2 years ago
why the fuck dos the sword talk
griffin7564 2 years ago
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well wat do u exspect its a wii game
darknight160 2 years ago
Oh My God It's A Talking Sword! I Can't Believe It's A Sword And It Can Talk!
Negemite 2 years ago 5
I disagree with your review but I respect your opinion because you bothered to play through the game properly and gave an honest opinion. Although the whole graphics thing I completely disagree with. The environments are anything but "dull" in my opinion and they are probably better than Secret Rings but hey still like the review because it was funny and interesting.
SiLeNtDo0m 2 years ago
If you have played Sonic Unleashed games you should easily understand why he's ripping this game to shreads.
If the gameplay is broken, the graphics really don't matter.
sbmikkim 2 years ago
*won't...and I even think Sonic Adventure Battle 2 is better then this one.
sbmikkim 2 years ago
You know, as much as I disagreed with you overall, I still really enjoyed that review. You had good humor and valid points. It's also nice to see you realize that Sonic is about platforming and not just a game where you race to the goal sign, like a few OTHER people I could mention...
gamefan06 2 years ago
should i buy this or secret rings please reply
aeonthedark 2 years ago
no , dont buy it.
NarutocapriRequest 2 years ago
Secret Rings.
GunmasterLombardi 2 years ago
its a great game but I agree the wii-mote can be unresponsive
BRAWLMASTERXD 2 years ago
Especially during boss battles.
Shockwave677 2 years ago
yeah when you're in a sword...lock...thingy
BRAWLMASTERXD 2 years ago
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hypershadow31788 2 years ago
how could you go though a entire sonic review without once mentioning spax3
hypertreb 2 years ago
What does spax have to do with the game?
gamefan06 2 years ago
I thought spax was like the beacon for all sonic fandom
hypertreb 2 years ago
I guess I wouldn't really know. I take one look at the fanbase and I curl up in a corner, crying for hours on end.
gamefan06 2 years ago 3
dude the gameplay better be like sonic unleashed and not gay secret rings!!!!
richboy00098 2 years ago
It's Sonic with a sword, do you expect it to play like Unleashed?!
LowCaloriePie 2 years ago
BTW you said the next Wii game begins with an O. My best guess is Offroad Extreme! Special Edition (although that might be a bad guess, considering that is a DDI title).
Truthfulpietro 2 years ago
Personally I think SEGA should give Sonic a rest. I believe if you use a particular character again and again repeatedly, despite using new concepts, then it gets deteriated and this sort of thing will result in declining quality.
Do you believe that SEGA should allow Sonic to Rest Neverchris?
Truthfulpietro 2 years ago
Maybe not necessarily a rest, but they need to treat the franchise better, put out some top quality games, and perhaps even map out some sort of comprehensible storyline. Really they should probably lay quiet for awhile, and then put out a really great game, like Sonic Unleashed but with no tacked on BS, and a storyline that everyone will think is cool.
neverchris 2 years ago
nice review and i agree but unlike in the secret rings you can actually stop in this game and it is easier to move left and right also
tolstoydreamcastfan 2 years ago
Perhaps, but there must be other characters for SEGA to use. Still, one can only wonder what SEGA have in store for future Sonic games.
Truthfulpietro 2 years ago
We need Shinobi back in next gen games.
supermariogalaxian 2 years ago
id give it a 10
sonicstarman44 2 years ago
I enjoy the game but I gotta say you can't play it very well. I mean for one thing:
1. Just tap A to jump and get a small boost jump.
2. Jump, press jump again, and swing as you use the homing attack to cut down three enemies in a row.
3. There's a 2nd, more difficult, arc.
4.
nulyak13 2 years ago
Whoops, sorry. Didn't mean to put the four. But really, the game is bad the way you play it. Using the jump and such makes it better. Not to mention using that backflip (A+Back) if you missed something helps alot.
I don't wanna say your biased or any of that junk because your not but I'm just saying the game is at least a decent entry if you use what's available. Besides, usually when you have a kill 50+ enemies can be done easily without slashing away at every enemy.
nulyak13 2 years ago 2
Thanks for the advice although I do know how to play the game although I specifically record footage prior to completely mastering the game. Not that I really want to master this game, and a good game would motivate me into naturally mastering it.
neverchris 2 years ago
True but it does make the game more fun, though I do have to say that the waggle part may be because the player waggles. If you actually "swing" the Wiimote you might get more enjoyment. Still, I can definitley see the "OMG I hate it" parts in the game.
nulyak13 2 years ago
Im sorry, but I highly disagree! Sonic is a fantastic franchise and u need to learn what great gams come from sonic team.
GodOfRock777 2 years ago
Please watch the review next time.
neverchris 2 years ago
haha @ 2:28.
redfoxbennaton 2 years ago
this was more of a rant on the gameplay and not a review, since you almost never mentioned the graphics, story (or whats going on), bonus content, etc. you just bitched about the gameplay. not really a review
darkgomugomu 3 years ago
yes i agree with u..darkgomugomu `he did bitch about the gameplay this game was tight...not beter then uneashed[360/ps3]but aight
sonic1allways 2 years ago
I use the time I have to talk about the things that are most important and not covered in every othe review. Wikipedia probably makes a great companion to my reviews. The graphics though, I did mention, and you can see them in the video. The story is there is no story.
neverchris 2 years ago
for a review of any kind, you explain anything and everything the game offers and the Story, Gameplay,