Play Guitar Hero World Tour with a Midi Electronic Drum (Double hit problem fixed)

[ArtixShao]

sound's like raj

[LiveForTheDrums]

Help: i am using my electronic drum set to play guitar hero: world tour. i have the MIDI cable hooked up and everything is working.. except my "green". the green pad on the actual guitar hero set works, but it doesn't go through on my electronix drum set. help!

[TheRockinQ]

@LiveForTheDrums You have to remap the MIDI number to either 28 or 45

[TheRockinQ]

Please help me! This software works most of the time, but sometimes I still get a double hit and it screws up my combo, which is really annoying

[TheBillerator]

@TheRockinQ Yeah same here. It seems to be when Im hitting 2 pads at he same time, it adds an extra hit or two. Not sure if this is because of a slow processor or USB port. I know its the computer adding the hit, because the midi cable LED flashes with each note out.

[TheRockinQ]

@TheBillerator Yeah, that's exactly my problem, it mostly happens when I hit 2 pads at the same time. What can I do about it?

[TheBillerator]

@TheRockinQ I had one of those eureka moments today and realised how to work round it.

I have a Roland kit, which allows me to change the "gate time" for each pad, I've set it to the max of 8 secs. Now I used the program as well and my testing showed no more extra notes.

Seems to me that the software cant keep up with too many notes at the same time and lets a OffNote get thru. You will see on the program that sometimes a pad stays highlighted, thats it screwing up.

[TheBillerator]

@TheBillerator Hope this helps others, because before today I was pulling my hair out.

Seems there is nobody out there that has posted a sloution to this on the net.

[TheRockinQ]

@TheBillerator What Roland drum kit do you have? I have a TD3, but the manual doesn't say anything about "gate time".

[TheBillerator]

@TheRockinQ Ive got a TD6. Had a look at the TD3 manual. It seems its the one option you dont have for creating/editing your own kit. Its a shame, because "gate time" allows the OffNote to be sent up to 8 secs after the on, which reduces the amount of OffNotes the software has to remove.

The only option for you now would be to find some software like Cubase and use it to filter those notes with it.

Or get another console, like I'm now considering.

[oneyedog3]

Hey. Thanks for the tutorial. IWhen i hit the pads it types letters, but as soon as I am in guitar hero, it doesnt register. Do you have any idea what could be wrong? Thanks again

[NanoverseProductions]

Midi Inpoot!

[liaonienwei]

Thanks, it really works. I have given up playing Guitar Hero for a while because I can't use my eletronic drums to play it. I bought Mad Catz Rock Band 3 MIDI Pro Adaptor to play Rockband instead. Some songs only come with the Guitar Hero games, so I really appreciate your free software.

[d13rsx]

Guitar Ero

[kipcaravan]

Do you need to hava an USB 2.0 od is 1.1 fast enough?

[THECREWsTUBE]

Could you please tell us where we may find the continuum transfuctioner?

[dandan42]

lol in soviet russia guitar ero hits you

[gdrag123]

@dandan42 He's not russian. -.-

[TomAndJeddy1]

Does it have to be constantly connected to a computer when you play or just to kind of sync the drum kit? thanks

oh and guys his accent is cool lol

[Ileou05]

@RcBot Does a Mac version exists ?

[mauriciogun]

IS NOT POSSIBLE TO CONECT DIRECTLY THE ELECTRONIC DRUM TO THE WII USB DRIVER THROUGH A MIDI CABLE?

[fastfingersneeded]

i cant get that program working on vista :(

[CejkaH]

Guitar Ero.

[cunnamullafalla]

I play Piano in a 60's 70's tribute band that play all the classics from that time. Just like all muso'c im looking to find really good Midi's to perform with. I've bought so many good Midi's but now I'm looking to find fellow Muso'c who will do and honest trade with great quality Midi's, saving us both $14 per track by helping eachother. send me a note via youtube and lets trade.

[MrJackHiro]

is there any news on the keyboard output? i would really appreciate it since i dont own a gh drumset...

[MrJackHiro]

is there any progrss with the keyborad output? i would really appreciate it since i dont have a gh drumset only have v-drums...

[ChiTownBears4life]

hemburgarrrrr

[Dominoes282]

Could you vice versa

[remobeater]

I have a TD-6V: I went to Edit>Control>Gate time

Then turned all pads to 8.0 sec. The pads fire once after the gate closes at 8 seconds. You will get a few random hits but the game is still playable. Sounds like the Midi Filter is a virus according to previous posts...

[pcarn9]

Works perfect!  Thanks!

[0o0hak0o0]

What if my PC didnt have a MIDI Output/input ?

[musicmaniac1965]

@0o0hak0o0 then just get a cable that has midi on the one side, and usb on the other :-) hope this helps.

[mbkilgannon2113]

i vill defeet yoo reecky booby (i will defeat you ricky bobby) thats what that guy reminds me of lol

[lowe2009]

Hey dude I have a DTXPLORER Yamaha Electronic Drum Set with the midi out on the back of it and I've connected my GHWT drums to it and only some of the pads work, can you please tell me what I need to do to sync all the pads to the right note?

[weecoulter]

@lowe2009 You have to set every individual pad in your drum kit the the right midi number associated with the coloured pad on the kit u want it to represent. You can get these midi numbers on lots of videos and google. Hope that helped :)

[lowe2009]

@weecoulter Thanks bro I'll have to look into that and see if I can get it to work :)

[YouHaveMetYourMaker]

That is the frenchest accent ever.

[ABK1505]

Will this work if i use USB MIDI INTERFACE where a usb go into the pc and on that interface there is a midi input and output?

[RcBot]

For sure ! many midi interfaces are "usb-plugged", sometimes they are also embedded in audio external interfaces.

[brinsangi]

Bonjor, dude!

VERY HELPFUL!

(Your english is TERRIBLE, but assuming that you're french it's GREAT ;-)

So THX a lot for sharing your work with the ITmusicians community.

Q: Have you ever thought about developing a controller which REPLACES the GWHT drumkit, so you can drive GH (or BH or what else) direct from Your Roland (or Yamaha, or....) MIDI drumkit? Perhaps via PC, but WITHOUT the need of der GH drumkit?

best wishes from vienne

mike

[MrJackHiro]

the keyboard output does not work in the new version. it works in notepad but not in gh:wt.

can you fix this?

[RcBot]

Yes I know about this, i've tried to fix this but there's no direct solution. In order this to work I should create a fake keyboard driver that emulates the presence of a real keyboard. But it's a bit difficult and actually I don't have so much time to try this.

[EnduroRenne]

Hi RcBot!

I am sorry but it seems that there is no chance that Guitar Hero detects any signal from the midi drum filter!!!

I have signal on every drum when i check it on your midi drum filter. i also see (nearly all) correct keys, when i switch to keyboard-mode. But in Game only the Keyboard works! btw: Your key-mapping had some faults in it.

[EnduroRenne]

The bad thing is, that you could not change the input-device manually in game!!! Seems that the GH Drumset is detected automatically!

I hope that anyone could find a solution for this problem!! I won't buy this f******-low quality-Drumset only for standing in the corner of my room.... :(

tnx again

[EnduroRenne]

add: Standard input device is Controller1/Keyboard

[EnduroRenne]

key-mapping is correct!!!!!! (sorry)

[MultiRiffer]

hi,same thing here,about the key mapping,theres 1 thing i seen,its not the same key when you play a song and when you are in studio.

the key's on this lil prog are correct,it should work in game,but in studio keys are "left-shift",<,w,x,c or something close,i dont remember wich key is the bass pedal.

Btw i tried all i could too,and no way to make it work with my TD12....i stopped to try....

[UtaiUrg]

is this working for rockband??

[BandaDK]

ur software has trojan you suck.

[jilshigure]

god i love your voice XD lolz

[RcBot]

Hello, a new version (1.3.1) has been realeased with a new mapping, it should solve the problem of useless mapping with PC version.

[EnduroRenne]

tnx RC!

I'll try it in the next few days and will give you a FEEDBACK soon!!

tnx a lot

[MultiRiffer]

Si quelqu'un sait ou on peut mapper les touches aussi,soit dans le jeu soit dans le prog,ca serait cool,car sans ca,tout ca ne sert a rien.

[MultiRiffer]

ouaip moi aussi j'aimerais bien savoir si avec juste un cable USB/Midi c'est jouable,ou si il faut absolument acheter le kit batterie vendu avec....

La j'ai uneRoland TD12 ,un PC equipé d'une carte son midi et le jeu et apparement ca suffit pas,j'ai DL le prog dont il parle et ca suffit pas non plus...:/ arf si quelqu'un a la soluce ....

[fabptitpom]

En fait, il faut simplement un cable USB-MIDI, brancher le midi dans le module roland, et le USB dans l'ordi ?

[bleachlord125]

RcBot

This requires a Midi-USB cable correct?

Because today i just went and bought a midi cable*without usb* and connected it and had the double hit problem, but then the PC doesnt have midi input=/

So im guessing i need a usb-midi right?

Btw, great video!

[236987451]

OMFG UR ACCENT IS SO FUNNY!!!!!!!

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd

[lildidi911]

i know n i cant stop laughing XDDDDDDDDDDDd

[SuperWario094]

the software doesnt seem to work with vista

[BlimeyCabrio]

Hi - THANKS for the software - got it working with an E-MU USB midi cable on my WinXP netbook with my Roland TD4 and GHWT on Wii.

One question - how do you access features like remapping, lefty mode, etc.? I can't find them in the program...

[farrgough]

I'm attempting to connect my Roland TD4 to PC using the GH Midi-USB Cable supplied by Activision (sensitivity fix), but no notes are activated within GH Drum Midi Filter. Anyone know if the cable only works with GH Drum Kit? Any ideas?

[jordan314]

I'm having the exact same problem and came here looking for an answer also. I'm afraid (guessing) that since the GH USB-MIDI Interface is used to send signals to the GH drums MIDI-IN port, that it's a one way cable (output only), and that we won't be able to send MIDI input back through USB. :(

[Aradebil]

thats not true, u can play dtxmania without any problem on pc!

[BlimeyCabrio]

Nope - you must have a real bi-directional MIDI cable - that cable won't work.

[shreda169]

cool

[BlackFlagParade]

I can hit a note on the program and it will sound in my headphones (which are connected to my drumset). However, if I hit my drumset, the program doesn't register the hits.

[checco802]

The problem is the game..........If i open the notepad and hit some pads, i write some letters....but in guitar hero WT doesn't work....i try to use this method with guitar hero 3 but.....doesn't work.....guitar Hero doesn't know the programm or the drum.......

[checco802]

i select the input then the output keyboard but guitar hero doesn't know the drum....Help me!!!

[RcBot]

You must plug the midi Output of your drumset into the input of your PC, then select your midi-in interface in the midi input list.

In the output list, select "keyboard". Then to test you may open notepad and hit some pads, it should write some letters.

In the game you must configure the drum as a keyboard, and set the following touch mapping :

red letter : R

orange letter : O

yellow : Y

green G

Blue B

kick P

The problem : I don't have the game so you are my beta testers ;-)

[EnduroRenne]

Same problem here! (PC) I can play all drum pads, if i open a word-document i can see all of the letters (but in doubletime!) and if i play GH:WT in keyboard mode i can't get this thing working! Maybe the problem is this doubletime lettering??? I got: rr oo yy gg bb pp Please help!! I will stay in contact to be your BETA-Tester! ;-)

[EnduroRenne]

UPDATE:

GH:WT has no options for changing key-settings!

so you have to use standard configs:

W,E,R,T = Yellow

Z, U, I, O = Blue

S,D,F,G = Red

H,J,K,L = Green

Shift = Starpower (i think Orange)

Spacebar = Pedal

so there are always 4 buttons configured for one drum or cymbal... except shift button and spacebar

[Jiraiyashir]

@RcBot ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!­

[checco802]

Can I use mi roland with a midi controller with guitar hero world tour for pc????? Help meeee!!!!

[e102ewan]

How do you connect MIDI drums to the Wii and use them to play guitar hero world tour? It just won't work for me?

[e102ewan]

How do you connect your drums to the Wii in the first place though? My Wii won't sense it?

[PROosmotr]

THX!!! NICE VIDEO!!! I love you! )

[Aradebil]

sorry i dont speak french:) so how can i hook my edrum to my gh:wt on pc?

[RcBot]

I've just released a new version that enables you to play on Guitar Hero WT PC version. I've added midi to keyboard conversion.

Please let me know if this works as I haven't got the PC version.

[Aradebil]

thank you,i try it in a minute:)

[fabptitpom]

Est-ce que la batterie Medeli DD506 peut etre utiliser avec guitar hero ?

Le module a un midi out, mais on m'a dit qu'il fallait que le module puisse faire du midi mapping... Tu pense que ca peut le faire ?

[RcBot]

ça peut le faire en effet puisque mon soft fait office de midi mapper, par contre il faut que je l'améliore pour qu'on puisse y sélectionner les notes d'entrée.

Mais à priori si les notes en sortie de ta batterie sont les notes standard ça devrait être bon.

[Aradebil]

Hello!

Maybe u can help me: i have a Yamaha DTXplorer,and i connected it via midi-usb cable to my pc,so i can use it as a midi controller in DTXmania for example.But my GH:WT(pc version) couldnt recognise it:(

any idea?

[RcBot]

is there a way to play guitar hero (PC version) with the keyboard ?

If it's possible, then I could build a new version of my soft that translates midi note into keyboard entries.

[Aradebil]

yes,you can!

[Aradebil]

but im not sure how to tune it:)

i select the input,then the output keyboard.and then?thats all?

[Shizadude]

I didn't experience double hits. Check out my vid in video response.

[RcBot]

Yeah, I know some versions of the game don't suffer from double hit problem. I made this software for the ones you have a bad set or game version (not sure where the source of the problem is).

[bostondrummer1]

For the record, this program does NOT work on Windows 7, nor the Virtual Machine XP Mode.

Please, I love this program and would gladly pay for it if necessary, but please fix Win7 compatibility.

[sethmeisterg]

...or your can buy sethmeisterg's EDRUM-USB adapter and avoid the GH:WT drums altogether ;). (Yes, shameless self-plug).

[spamhead2k]

"i Ope this will be Elpful to you"

[Jiraiyashir]

@spamhead2k EPIC!

[poppitz21]

Does it work with a yamaha dtxplorer?

[malouni95]

In all e-drums.

[xxXKetchupmanXxx]

lmao:D:D:D im sorry dude but you're speaking sooo gay ;)

[psychoslayer1993]

Your accent is BAD ASS. :D

Oh, and thanks for the tutorial!

[RcBot]

;-) I'm just a poor French guy you know .

You welcome man.

[fabptitpom]

J'ai tout de suite reconnu l'accent francais ^^

[Dovtutis]

Hello, i connected my drum kit, its working, but i have one problem, i cant make all colors working on one drum set, i set one drum set works all collors but dont work one collor, if i change drum set, other collor dont work, all works, i can change voices but no sense, same, any ideas? I will wait for your answer.

[RcBot]

It's because your drum doesn't outputs the standard midi drum notes. Try to find a kit with all working the nice way. :-s

What's your drum set ?

By now it's not possible to customize the mapping on my software, I will do that when I have more time.

Than

[Dovtutis]

My drum kit Session Pro dd505

[Dovtutis]

My drum set is Session Pro DD505, on many sets works bass pedal and 4 from 5 collors :(

[RichMiz93]

for some reason i cant open the file it says "This program cannot be run in DOS mode." can anyone solve this problem?

[RcBot]

Which is your OS ? If you have Vista try to run with XP compatibility mode.

[ajg34]

i found a MIDI out and MIDI in cable that is attached to USB. the MIDIs are male. and stick in to the drum module (MIDIout), computer (USB), and MIDIin cable into the GH drum set. its all plug and play. found it at bestbuy about $60.

[ajg34]

i would like my kit to work. i have Roland TD-6, wii console, GHWT game and plastic drums. i am getting double triggering! it looks like i need a computer with MIDI in/out and your program. where do you get computers with MIDI in/out?

[ajg34]

i got it to work. you are the man!!! there is a slight delay but its playable. maybe you can add a delay/antidelay part to your next version of your software program. thank you!!! now i can ROCK!!

[RcBot]

Hello,

Sure there's a little delay because the computer needs to deal with the whole midi message and then sent it to the GH drumset, then the drumset capture the new message and sends it to the game ...

Everything you need to do is to adjust the audio and video delay in the game settings (add about 20ms to both values). After that you even don't feel any delay while playing the game notes (but you can still hear a little when the game let's you play directly).

[BruceOreilley]

Hey man, thanks for posting this video, and for the software!! And its free! ur a legend!

Now just have to get the midi In sorted and im good to go!

What drumset have you got?

[NixsurfSimpson]

The double hit only occurs on Wii (to my knowledge). If you have a 360 or PS3, you can edit some of the numbers on the drum brain, plug it into the GHWT drums, and you're good to go.

[rockbandmidi]

They have a usb midi kit at radio shack now.. here' s one option.. order your 'drum tuning kit' from red octane.. then, have your friend get one too (they're free, go to redoctane website upper left corner there's a link) plug both in.. set one as in, one as out.. you're good to go.. OR--- just go to radio shack buy a midi in/out $30, ebay half that price... I have no double hit problems --but going to get this anyway could be useful.

[madboy1993]

thanks i tried this at a friends house and it worked but unfortunatly i can't do it at home because i don't have a computer next to my e-drum kit.. anyway thank you

[oOKanKlesOo]

I can only get Midi Out not IN. I have . Any suggestions?

[RcBot]

Yes, you can only see the standard windows midi mapper output, it's not a real output it just plays sounds directly on your computer.

In other word this means that your don't have any midi in/out natively on your system.

It's not a big problem, you can do as

jimisalsojames did, just buy a cheap midi to usb interface and it will work. perhaps you could ask him which one worked for him ?

[jimisalsojames]

Hi Rcbot. my pc does not have midi in/out. would your software work if i got a midi box in/out with usb connection to pc

[RcBot]

Hello,

Yes, if you add a midi in/out interface (over USB for example) to your PC, then GH Drum Midi Filter wiil deal with this, even if it's not integrated in your PC motherboard. In fact most of midi interface are external ones, In my case I successfully use the input and output of a US-144 audio device.

[cardshark87]

what if u dont have a midi in put or out put on ur pc?

[RcBot]

Errr, how to say that ... I'm sorry there's no way to deal with midi signals with a software on a PC if you don't have any input and output.

But you shouldn't be pessimistic, it seems that not everybody suffer from this anoying double hit problem.

[cardshark87]

:) ok thanks!

[minime220220]

if you still need the midi input for ur PC, there is a little box called a "Midi-Sport" and all you need is that little box and 2 midi cables. Hook one midi cable to the MIDI out on your drum kit and plug the other end to the MIDI in on the MIDI-Sport, then plug the other MIDI cable to the MIDI out on your MIDI-Sport and plug the other end of that into your GHWT drum kit, and plug the USB cable on the MIDI-Sport into the computer

[RcBot]

I see your video after trying this.

The reason I just released it it's because I own the guitar hero kit since end of december, so I couldn't test before.

But in your video you don't seem to have this double touch problem, do you ?

I notice that the kit of a friend of mine have some physical differences with my GH kit. Perhaps it exists different versions of the firmware too.

To everybody : "Could you tell if your version of GH drum kit suffer from this problem ?"

Thx for comment

[minime220220]

I didn't have this problem, but this could be from two reasons:

1. Different game system=different configuration (i.e. i have a ps2, you have a Wii)

2. Different Drum Kit- It could be the fact that you have a different drum kit, but i see that you have a TD-9, and i have a TD-9.

In saying this, i believe that it is just because it's the Wii version, but i could be wrong...

[RcBot]

Yes we went to the same conclusion, there are different versions of the electronics of the kit that don't respond the same way.

I will try with the "different looking" drum kit of my friend if I can (his cymbals don't have the same surface aspect has mine). The inside may also be different.

Other subject : In the next version of my soft I will add note remapping, so that you'll be able to revert symmetry of the kit without edit it in your drum settings.

[minime220220]

nice, so did you see my video and then just try it and you had this problem? or did you already know about this function on GHWT but creating the software took long?