1. LIE! Jews never existed before Abraham. neither did Arabs, but either way, it does not give u the right to kick people out from their land!
2. LIE! unless Arabs are 1 billion, they can't take over every town in the middle east....
3. LIE. that statistic has no supportive study what so ever...and i challenge u to prove that.
4. the original inhabitants of Israel as a country were European, white Jews, AKA ZIONISTS in coalition with the Jewish Christians they conquered the land.
Israel was a kingdom in ancient times in 1300 BC. It was a country, and Jews were the citizens of this country. Arabs did NOT EXIST IN ISRAEL in ancient times - FACT. Arabs started spreading after the 5th century, when the Arabs occupied the entire middle east, and forced the Islam on the people, and forced the Arabic culture and language.
70% of Palestinians and Arab -Israelis immigrated here in the past 150 years. It's also a fact, and their last names indicate its true
@ofri75 FACT: not all inhabitants of palestine/ Syrian region were Jews, nor Arabs, so stop ur poor trials to prove that the land belongs to Jews only and no one should live on it BUT Jews....u can play on words as much as u want, it doesn't change the fact that God kicked u out of it bc u don't deserve it....ur back back for now, but u'll be down soon, even if Israel becomes the super power, and it will be in a 2 year period, u'll fall sooner or later....and ur false messiah will be defeated.
@slingshot2004 - haha, it's amusing how you twist my words and lie.. I never said that "noone should live in Israel but jews" - I said Jews are the original inhabitants, and that's a true fact.
God perhaps kicked the jews out of Israel - but god also returned them back.. :so that means we deserve it, doesnt it? (since you now mention god - I can also say that Allah loves Israel! that's why Allah lets Israel win the Muslims every time!)
PS - In Israel many minorities live in freedom & peace!
@ofri75 it doesn't matter what u say, it's what ur gov. is doing, ur gov. and people are kicking out the original inhabitants of this peaceful place. christians and muslims, and attacking their cemetery and worship places. yes minorities are living there, but they are being discriminated against...and i have tons of videos to prove that....another fact, if u came back to Israel, not bc God want u to, it's bc God ALLOWED u to...
@slingshot2004 - where is the Israeli government "kicking" the "original inhabitants" exactly?? to Egypt? Syria? Jordan? LOL - what a bunch of crappy stupidity..
For your information - there are 1.5 million Israeli-Arabs, who are living as equal Israeli citizens, enjoying FULL RIGHTS, democracy, and freedom like no other Arabs enjoy in the middle East!
Arab-Israelis are ironically, the only Arabs in the Middle East who live under a free liberal democracy!
@ofri75 and west bank! and now the settlements are taking people land by force in front of everyone in the UN council! u go ahead and keep defending an oppressive state....i made my point, u keep dancing around ur ideals and ur perfect made up world....u speak of Israeli-Arabs, u have not fuckin idea what u talkin about...u get ur info from ur gov. news channels and don't know shit of whats goinn on land....and we both know why no arabs are enjoying peace and freedom in the middle east....
@ofri75 no Arab will evey enjoy peace till this Jewish state is gone....your gov. is the reason why this world is going into the third world war....wtvr man....this platform is urs...i'm not gonna argue with killers of childrens....
Israel - as the ONLY democracy in the Middle East - was attacked from DAY ONE, was invaded, terrorised, incited by SEVEN Arab countries that are surrounding Israel. To call the victim "agressor" is a well known tactic, but its not working on me. Israel already have peace with several Arab countries (Jordan, Egypt) who were brave enough to abandon terrorism, and reach out and recognize Israel.
You are a pure propagandist, who never visited Israel in your life.
@slingshot2004 - I invite you to come here - I will host you personally, so that you can see the wonderful country, to realize how nice, warm, friendly, kind are the Israelis, and how wrong you are about everything you said. (but this offer will not repeat itself so you better take it fast:-)
A ticket to Israel is only aroung 1000 - 1500 dollars from the USA - its one week of an average American income, so you can make it easily.
@ofri75 and again i say it, in the first time, the Babylonians kicked u out, the second time the Romans kicked u out, and in the third time Muslims will kick u out...no matter how long it's gonna take...
this land belongs to the people who live there. and stop saying that Jews own that land...cuase there were no Jews before Jacob and his sons...God kicked u out, and you should never come back to it...maybe as tourists and local inhabitants....just like anyone else, but not as a nation...
The ONLY original Arab land is Saudi-Arabia. All the rest became "Arab" because of the Arab brutal occupation, that forced the local population to convert to Islam, and adopt Arab culture & language. Many people don't know this, but it's a fact. Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and certainly Israel - were NEVER Arab originally. Israel was there as a country in 1300 BC - before Arabs lived there, before Islam was invented..We took our land back and now majority of Israelis are Jews!
@ofri75 oh really?!?!? well guess what....most of Israelis are not Jews, cause Judaism did never exist before Israel and his sons...and the people who migrated to Palestine and only white European Jews lead by what is AKA Zionists. the land belongs to it's people, the original inhabitants, who are mostly Assyrians, Babylonians...etc. if u wanna talk history, don't start 5000 years ago only! and here is a new info for u...Arabs did migrate from Yemen at one point to Syria and Iraq...read history!
@ofri75 2 questions for u, u r an atheist Palestinian....an Israeli comes to u with a sentence that says, "a thing that u don't believe in and u don't think exists promised me your house and i'm gonna kick you out for it, and i don't care where you and your family sleep tonight" what is your response to him?
2nd, Jesus will come and restore the land, but YOU, the current Jewish people, are not permitted here, God kicked u out on the hands of Babylon and Romans....and the third will be Muslims!
@A1DiamondGirls Non-sense - he had no ideology other than his roots in Christianity. He separated himself from the Church and pretended that he was an Atheist. Even it were the case, what about the rest of the German race - were they also Atheist - they were the one committing all those atrocities against the Jews - putting them in gas chambers. You must be an ignorant and dumb as a dodo not to realize that world does hate the Jews. Should we invoke some endorsement here?
@A1DiamondGirls It honestly amazes me what Zionist will say to get people to support genocide. The fact is it's about the murders of Palestinians. But 13 people killed by Hamas rockets and the holocaust they had nothing to do with is all the justification you need to wipe out the Palestinians and all the other Arabs, Turks, Persians, Etc. and also is justification for the deaths of US soldiers killed in attacks by Israel and in wars for Israel. Zionism: do unto others what Nazis did unto you.
@SatchmoSings Are you an idiot? Because from your post, that is what I am thinking.
There are three types of races in the Islamic World (North Africa, Arabia, and the Persian-Indo Asia) [Not including the Jews]. The Indo-Aryans, the Arabs, and the Sub-Saharan Africans. You are confusing the idea of Arab with the term Muslim/ Islamic. And why do you think the Arabs have stolen the land. Because some bearded, arrogant, ass from the heavens commanded that they should own it. Bull shit.
@KrasseOdaVonBayern For someone that claims such scholarship on the races of the region, you obviously know absolutely NOTHING about Zionism; it was a movement founded by SECULAR JEWS in the wake of The Dreyfus Affair; Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox Jews largely shunned Zionism until AFTER Israel was established.
That you don't know this also casts your opening claims as more than a possible fallacy.
@KrasseOdaVonBayern So pea-brain; today the Copts had a march to demand their rights and the Muslim-Arabs of Egypt starting to kill them; you're a total idiot.
WHO IS DUMB ENOUGH TO CALL THE JEWISH PEOPLE STUPID????? READ WHAT THEY HAVE GIVIN THE WORLD. MOST PEOPLE WHO DIS-LIKE JEWISH PEOPLE NEVER EVEN MET ONE...DO SOMETHING NOVEL IN YOUR LIFE "R-E-A-D." EXPAND YOUR MIND AND LEARN.
I live in Europe (Finland) and have travelled a lot! I have fucking never ever seen or hear any problems with jews and I cant say the same about muslims! And Im NOT zionist!!!
@madverkus But you have heard about problems with USA(the place which is ran by jews) you know how they murder people for profit? People with money control the country and jews have plenty of it.
@deadendjesenice Unlike that Finnish guy you've never traveled anywhere; you've never even been to a bathroom with a flush toilet and a shower with hot 'n' cold running water.
@SatchmoSings what is flush toilet? what is internet? i'm happy louis fisher doesn't taught in europe i might not understand. Americans are simply just to smart even though they developed less culutre than yogurt does in 200 years.
@deadendjesenice 01. Yes, you, some idiot from the Balkans, has to give me a lecture; Tito crammed you morons into a nation with a relatively high standard of living and "you people" even wound up exporting an automobile, allbeit, a really shitty one.
Then "you people" threw all this away because you're so "cultured;" you have no conception of tolerance; you're all nationalist turds beating your chests over what incredible low-life shit you can be outside of being Yugoslavian.
@deadendjesenice 02. Also, if you look over my channel, you'll see videos of classical music and REAL American Jazz, something that you, as a "cultured" European can't even begin to comprehend, especially judging from the videos associated with your own channel; you're an uncultured piece of shit.
Louis Fisher was a very fine journalist and writer; for many years his biography on Lenin was considered definitive.
In my country, the only thing former Yugoslavians are fit for is to run pizzerias.
@madverkus Well then you have not travelled to anywhere. With Israel planted on an occupied land by the Jews who were kicked out of EU by your grandfather Hitler - because they gave him headache - they have now become a headache for the world peace - still see them innocent. For Muslims, you should be grateful to them they dragged you - the Europeans out of the dark ages and brought you to the human civilization and the life you enjoy. You should remember the history and be grateful to Muslims.
@lymnaea1 :D I know history more than well and I have seen things in my own eyes... thing that muslims denies that are happening in Europe as we speak :D btw did you know that 1/4 of hitlers armys were muslims! I have nothing to be grateful to muslims... not now... not ever you can be sure of that! Maybe you should read some more history... there was life and CIVILIZATION before Persia, Babylonia, Assyria etc. :D
@madverkus There is no cure for ignorance there has never been and there will never be one. Someone who denies historical facts ends up repeating the history. This crap about there being 1/4 of Muslims in Hitler's army - total nonsense. You grand daddy Hitler (you still seem to have the same ideology) being the white supremacist Nazi would have never allowed them near his race. He would have killed them first and then the Jews. There was life in EU but no civilization before Muslims. Read!
@lymnaea1 Hitlers army were build up of 8 large divisions! 2 of them that fought in the eastern front were division that were totally formed of muslims! Jerusalems Gran Mufti Amin Al-Husseini and Hitler worked together because they had the same goal... you know what that was?! Ever heard of muslim Waffen SS, Bosnian SS division Handzar, Albanian muslim Nazi SS Skanderbeg division and the list goes on and on! This is a cold FACT but usually not mentioned in many history books... and you know why!
@madverkus Non-sense, I have gone back to search history to see if Hitler invoked any Muslims to support his cause. None whatsoever. He would have killed them first rather than asking Muslims to help him out. So plane fact is that he being a Christian went after the Jews first and then the shit hit the fan. Poor Jews now think that the entire world turned against them and have since been manipulating the people expecting them to feel sorry for them. That better smarten up the world is changing.
@1qaz2wsx3edc4rfvize Is that all you can say - truth does hurt, does it not? One must not be ungrateful and accept the truth. Read history and you will find out what kind of dark ages you lived, the europeans used to live in. Had it not been for Muslim enlightenment, you would have still been the savages. It is a different story that the Muslims moved away from their principals and grand values and have disgraced themselves. Watch out there are 2.1Billion of them - they can still turn the tide.
@lymnaea1 True but you must realize that there are other opinion in the world that must be respected, by the way that part that "they can still turn the tide" is one of them.
@1qaz2wsx3edc4rfvize No questions - we all have to learn to live together - respect each other's culture and religion and work collectively to serve the humanity. What I meant was that if Muslims stop resorting to violence and stop buying things made by those countries who undermine them and not to invest in their economy, there numbers are so large that they can bring any country to its knees and then turn the tide of aggression against them. Remember in 60 years France may be Muslim majority!
the jewish religion is based of greed and stealing...thats why those rat bastards are hated by everyone. hitler killed them becuase they were oppressing his people
Oh so i guess its bad to that america fought land from the british in the revolutionary war, the people in here are idiots!!! im not jewish, but if you fight for something and u win it means u earned it!!! Retards, their not steeling their land
@JacobOnMedia Hitler fought hard and conquered France and "The Low Countries" of Europe; I guess that must have made him correct, using your very own definition.
@SatchmoSings Yes hitler conquered countries with military battles along with taking all of the jews, gays and disabled people and slaying them....i dont think the jews did that so no u really don't hav the grounds to compare jews to hitler
As I recall it, the UN proposed a division for the land of Israel following the second world war which said that both arabs and jews were to equally share the land. Who accepted this proposal? The jews. Who rejected it? U stupid fucking arabs. Now u have to suffer for being so fucking greedy. I have no respect for you barbarians. Take for example Gilad Shalit. Israel proposed to release 1500 of ur MURDERERS for one of our soldiers, and you greedy fucks want even more. I hope you all die in hell.
the reality is Jews hate muslim and plan against them and kill them do a crime and and throw their dirt on muslims bcoz of this muslims doesnt like jews not the opposite. bcuz they r hurt and killed by jews the fact is tht most of the muslims esp living in India and subcontinent r so ignorent tht they even dont know wht is jew
Thank you Israel for showing us that the Holocaust can be continued , only this time the victims are the peaceful Palestinians. Israel does not exist, it is called Palestine, and Israeli is not a national identity but a title given to invaders.
@chicheater1 Thank you Muslims for continuing to prove that the Jewish people are totally justified in their actions. Thank you as well for showing through your suicide bombers and the leaders of your countries that you and yours are NOT a "religion of peace". Palestine is not a nation, it is a construct of lying Arabs to chip away falsely & maliciously at the TRUE claim of the Jewish people to the land of ISRAEL!
"a title given to invaders"?
Just as the name "Palestine" was given BY invaders.
@br007306 You do know I'm Atheist. Just because I hate Israel doesn't make me a Muslim, because most of the world does hate Israel, but most of the world aren't Muslim. The only reason Israel exists is because you receive aid from the USA and the UK who gave you a chance at existence. Jews have no claim to Palestine, just because you were bullied out of Europe by the Holocaust and Pogrom doesn't mean you have a right to steal land from people who settled there because your fake god "promised" it
@br007306 That was thousands of years ago. Your people lived alongside the Arabs for thousands of years in Palestine; Hitler comes along and starts mass genocides, so you decide to take out your own genocide on the Palestinians. You're no better than Hitler.
@chicheater1 "You're no better than Hitler"? Did Hitler have to worry about Jews suicide-bombing Berlin civilians? Did Hitler have rockets firing from the Warsaw ghetto into Germany?
No, he did not.
He just invaded non-aggressive countries and rounded up the Jews who were MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS!
"That was thousands of years ago."? So stealing is okay if it was a long time ago, and the victims were Jews?
No the British just worried about Jews suicide bombing civilians in Palestine back in the 30s and 40s. Now, of course the Holocaust was wrong, and yes, the Jews were minding their own business, nobody says they weren't. But that doesn't justify you coming over to a country that you're people have barely lived in over the courst of the last millennium and a half and kicking out the now native inhabitants.
No, stealing is never ok. But nobody stole ANYTHING from you, and the ppl who stole aren't alive to be punished, just innocent ppl who were minding THEIR own business who you Jews choose to take out your anger on over crimes committed not tens, not hundreds, but THOUSANDS of years ago. Maybe I should run up to Rome and shoot some Romans for conquering the Sicels and Elymians. That makes a whole shit ton of sense. The point is you are no more entitled to that land than Armenians are to Turkey.
@br007306 No, they wouldn't. It wouldn't matter. There are already people living in Turkey who had nothing to do with taking it from the Armenians. It would be just as wrong as kicking the English out of England, or all the white people out of America, or the Turkish Azerbaijani people out of Azerbaijain and Northern Iran to make way for the Ossetians and the other Iranians since an Iranian group named the Azeris used to live there. It would all be wrong, because it was in the past.
@macgobhain But none of those other "first peoples" took their countries back like Israel did. So all those examples you gave are purely speculative. The Jews taking back the land of Israel is a unique case in history, and anyone disagreeing with their right to do so does not weigh the merits of the Jewish case but hates Jews. And your words are just an example of that in miniature.
Yeah I would say it's a unique case that way. Everyone else has the maturity as a people to accept the past and live with it, and live in the modern world alongside each other. Armenians stay in Armenia, the Welsh and Cornish live alongside the British, the Native Americans live with us white people, it's a win win situation every where else, except with you, because you're determined to make everyone pay for the past. So if you take pride in that, that's just sad.
Punishing the son for the father's sin is wrong as it is, but you think it's ok to punish the great+ 1000 grand child for their great + 1000 grandfather's sin, because the Holocaust happened. Guess what, nobody minds that you live in Europe anymore, or the United States, but we mind that you treat Palestinians like animals and deport them from their own country because you need someone to bully. It's PATHETIC. You have no right to Israel, that right has been gone for over a thousand years.
@macgobhain The Israelis are not "bullying" anyone. The "Palestinians" claim the exclusive right to the land and have demanded that the Jews leave, and have murdered Israeli civilians to do so. And they have stated their intention to continue to do so. That is not "to punish the great+ 1000 grand child for their great + 1000 grandfather's sin", that is happening RIGHT NOW! The actions of the Israelis towards the "Palestinians" are efforts to protect Israeli civilians.
Ha! If I had a dollar for how many times I watched the Israeli police beat the shit out of and/or intimidate Palestinian men and kids, or for all the times the Jews looked down their noses at them and treated them like second class citizens during the 6-7 weeks while I was there I'd be a rich man. Jews treat Palestinians and Syriacs like DIRT, and it's been going on since your Zionist movement in the late 1800s through the time you came back to STEAL PALESTINE from the Palestinians in the 40s.
And yes, I know Palestinians want the Jews the hell out of Israel. How would you feel if a bunch of people who hadn't lived somewhere for over 1500 years, let's not forget the amount of time passed here, came back and told you that you had to get the fuck out and "make way" because you "stole" it from them before Europe was even Christianized. I'd want you out too. Do I condone their methods? Of course not, but I understand where they're coming from.
So shut the fuck up, and quit bitching about the past, you dumb ass JEW! Maybe if there was less of this entitlement, less of this "WE are so much better" attitude, then the rest of the world wouldn't feel inclined to deport you from wherever you try and stay.
@br007306 lol no, cuz I've already looked at ur channel and seen that you're really nothing but a dumb Jewish troll with an axe to grind. No, I didn't put you in your place, YOU did. You proved how stupid and ignorantly biased you are, by saying again and again that Jews are entitled to things other people aren't because you're Jewish, and thus "a unique case". It's exactly that that makes you a biased, ignorant, Jew. And it's exactly that kind of behavior that makes half the world hate you.
@macgobhain Oh, so now I'm a "troll"? Why do people like you use that word so much? Is it because you think that the word "troll" is this stupid magical incantation that Jew haters can utter to shame me into silence?
Not going to happen.
Because in MY case "troll" means "TRUTH TELLER ON A ROLL"!
It means you are intimidated by the truth I speak, and you have no real answer for it other than to rant about "how entitled you Jews feel"and "how the world hates you" blah blah blah!
@br007306 Yeah. Sure. If that's what makes you happy keep thinking that. What truth are you telling? You never explained how the Jews are a "unique case".I'm not intimidated by anything, and I don't think people who don't like Jews for your entitlement attitude normally are, we're just annoyed, and sick of hearing you rant about how much better you are than all of us and how you're all just "letting" us gentiles live on this planet.
@br007306 yes well I already addressed why that's pathetic. Try paying attention to that. Yours is the only nation that doesn't have the maturity to accept the past - sad.
@macgobhain But yet Palestinians just can't accept the fact that Jews are running a nation that they once possessed because their ancestors stole it from the Jews.
And if you want to talk about "maturity", then maybe the Palestinians should stop throwing tantrums with bomb belts and Qassam rockets.
YOUR not accepting those tactics is irrelevant. The Palestinians accept them, and therefore deserve whatever scrutiny police give them on the street. It's called backlash.
@br007306 Oh, so pepper spraying a twelve year old who glares at you when you call him an Arab in the most condescending tone of voice possible after he asked you a question is totally acceptable? That's "backlash", huh? lol. Yeah, they can't accept the fact that the Jews run the country and routinely harrass them and kick them off their land when they have their grandparents who were still alive talking about how it used to be before you Jews took over. It's a little hard. Excuse them.
@macgobhain And targeting and murdering Israeli civilians iS "acceptable"? Being persecuted the world over for every imaginary offense under the sun for millenia and being accused of being Nazis because you don't want your civilians to die IS "acceptable"? Watching the "Palestinians" celebrate 9/11 and then having them LIE TO YOU that it never happened, or that Israel DID 9/11? How about that? And then being told that the land that was stolen from your ancestors has to REMAIN stolen from you?
See there you go babbling about the past again as if it matters. Yeah, ppl have persecuted Jews for thousands of years, mostly because in all truth your not the most likeable ppl in the world for the same reasons that we're having this discussion, but that doesn't justify it. But that is the PAST. The Kurds have been persecuted just as much as you, but you don't hear them complain HALF as much as you do. And no, I don't think it's cool that some of the Palestinians celebrated 9/11,
@br007306 yeah well the injustices to their ppl are kind of a daily occurrence. their still living grandparents can remember a time when Palestine was Palestine, before you Jews came back to steal it.
@macgobhain You can't steal a nation that never was. "Palestine" was never an independent sovereign nation, it was always under one form of occupation or another. Only when the Jews got the land BACK did the Muslims claim any kind of "Palestinian statehood".
Yeah, because they were never told they had to move until you came along. How funny that Jews from Europe who had Nazis tell them they had to leave their homes went over to the Middle East and did the same thing.
but I'm also smart enough to know that the ones that are paraded across the Western media doing that are actually a lot fewer than you're trained to think. Like the college students who drove thru the streets of Damascus cheering for Hezbollah. It was just a few college students, and minimal Israeli casualties, but that was enough to go bomb the living shit out of Lebanon and kill thousands of innocent civilians, right? A few Jewish lives worth a thousand gentile? lol.
@macgobhain No, it was all the rockets and the attacks from Hezbollah on Israeli civilians that justified the response from Israel.
Damned inconsiderate of Hezbollah to attack from behind those civilians, if you ask me. Maybe they shouldn't have been using them a human shields. Bad things happen when they do stuff like that.
@br007306 yeah bad things happen like Jews bombing Beirut and killing 10 times the civilians that were hurt by those rockets from Hezbollah. But it's ok right? It's your righteous Jewish might? So maybe the United States should go level Mexico City cuz of all the attacks on American civilians by the cartels?
@macgobhain As opposed to what? Letting Hezbollah and Hamas continue to shell Israeli civilians because "oh my gosh we just can't hurt the civilians of the enemy"? Interesting how Israel's enemies expect Israel to have more concern for the lives of the enemies' civilians than their enemies do.
Hahahaha so two wrongs make a right? Or is that only where Jews are concerned? Again, cuz your so "unique". Besides, the Israeli military killed waaaaaaaaaaaay more civilians in Beirut than those pathetic attacks on some border villages, so sorry, it's just not even in the same ball field.
@macgobhain And were the Israelis in those "border villages" human beings? Were they civilians? Did the Israelis in those "border villages" attack first? Or wasn't it Hezbollah that attacked first?
The Muslim screams in pain as he hits somebody else.
@br007306 Of course they were human beings, and civilians. That doesn't justify the murder of THOUSANDS more people in Beirut who have NOTHING to do with Hezbollah. Hezbollah in these countries is like the cartels in Mexico and South America. The ppl don't exactly support them, but they have their fingers in government. If you had any idea what you were talking about you'd know that. But just like any other Jew I've talked to, you really don't. You're too busy crying in your soup.
The fact remains that the Palestinians were there and your people had lost any claim to that land 1500 years ago. I think instead of opening up an already inhabited area for you, countries in Europe should have welcomed you back with Germany paying reparations. The past doesn't justify what you're doing today, and the FEW, cuz they are VERY FEW Palestinians who actually do these things are wrong and certainly going to hell, but THEIR actions would be more appropriately defined as a "backlash".
@macgobhain But those countries aren't Israel. That is the whole point.
And who claims the Jews "lost any claim to the land"? Muslims? People who are biased against Jews? The people who are the descendants of those who stole the land and persecuted the Jews in the first place?
@br007306 First of all, let's get this straight. It's Palestine. I'm not even biased against most Jews and I recognize Palestinian sovereignty, just like almost the entire world does, outside the United States and the EU. And yes, Muslims, ppl who've actually been living there, claim that you lost your claim to the land. Is it a crime to be descended from someone who did something bad? I suppose you think that White Southern Americans should pay reparations to black families?
@macgobhain Muslims claim that their prophet Mohammad took a night journey to al-Quds and then flew to heaven to meet Moses and Jesus on a winged horse. That doesn't mean I have to believe it.
"Is it a crime to be descended from someone who did something bad?"
Gee, don't know. Why don't you ask all the people who said that I "killed Jesus" because I'm Jewish and therefore "cursed by God" and then proceeded to beat the crap out of me for it?
How typically Jewish of you. I'm Catholic myself, and I fully believe that the Jewish clergy was responsible for the death of Christ, that doesn't mean I think Jews today are responsible. So because other people were ignorant and belligerent, that justifies you're ignorance and belligerence? Because two wrongs always make a right. No, of course YOU personally didn't kill Christ. The descendants of the Pherushim and peasants responsible are probably all dead.
Yeah, the whole world is against YOU. Ha. I've been to your synogogue I've listened to what you people talk about. It's like your entire religion is centered around moaning about the past. "In the days when our people suffered in Babylon, in the days when our people suffered in Persia, in the days when our people suffered under the Romans," all you do is complain and teach your children to complain, and teach everyone to alienate themselves from the rest of us "gentiles"
@br007306 My sense of selective outrage? Hypocrite? My entire religion isn't centered around selective victimology. Jews "get" to complain, huh? So do the Armenians too? Or the Zazaks? Our government is just barely acknowledging that the Armenian Genocide happened, which proportionally, killed more Armenians than the Holocaust did Jews. Do the Armenians "get" to complain? Is their entire religion, the Armenian Apostolic Church centered around their victimology?
@br007306 I highly doubt you even knew about the Armenian Genocide before I just spelled it out for you, so don't tell me I need to learn history. And so now is it only people that had their land stolen by Muslims? So how about the peoples of Russia? Evenks, Nganasans, etc. Should they be given all of Siberia back? Even though the ethnic Russians who live there now didn't steal the land?
That's the most truthful statement you've said in this argument. Once in a while you are capable of telling the truth, no matter how inadvertently you do so.
@macgobhain Israel is "right" so much as it is justified in defending itself against an enemy that has foresworn the destruction of the Jewish state. The second "wrong" is commited by the Palestinians when they target and murder Israeli civilians and compare Jews to farm animals and vermin. They are not interested in compromise. At all. But Israel is expected to do so, and is rewarded with nothing in return.
Case in point: Gaza handed over to Hamas, Hamas attacks Israel from it.
No, and they shouldn't have to compromise with IMMIGRANTS. Should we Americans compromise with illegal Mexicans? I think not. You IMMIGRATED to that land long after anyone you were potentially related to had left. You're anything but native. So why in pluperfect hell should the natives compromise for you? That doesn't make any sense at all. Of course now there are Jews who have been born in Israel and are as native as any Palestinian. So what's the solution?
The proper solution would be to allow the Palestinians over the border to come in and accommodate them, and only treat the ones who specifically target Israel. You don't persecute a people for the behavior of a few, or even a good amount. Mexicans and Black people are statistically criminals. It's a fact, and if you dispute it, then you must not live in the same reality as everyone else. They are in general more involved in gang activity and crime and at an earlier age than White kids
But we don't persecute, or look down our noses at them for it. If some Palestinians who are allowed to come home and allowed to live along side you the Jews. If some of them act crazy, then you do something about them. You don't punish the community.
@macgobhain Because the Palestinians don't do anything about them, and even enable them. It would be nice if Hamas and Hezbollah would police their own, but the fact of the matter is that they won't because they agree with them "acting crazy". Hence the need of Isral to "punish the community". Which is what the jihadists want, and what the jihadists get.
@br007306 Mexicans and Black people don't police their own for shit. In fact that's the last thing they do. They're all so busy not snitching because they don't see the action of pulling a drive-by on someone who disrespected the colors you were wearing as wrong enough to be worthy of legal action. So we should cram them into confined spaces like Gaza or the ghettos, and then look down our noses at them and treat them like second or even third class citizens.
@macgobhain Don't see Mexicans and black people strapping on bombs and attacking people on a daily basis. If they do, let me know if you are still going to be snippy about Israel's efforts to secure its nation/.
Oh no, they just blow the brains out of each other and any white person that walks down the wrong street. So yeah, I'm still "snippy". You don't punish a race for how some of them act. That's called being racist.
See the problem here is, you don't think anything Jews do is wrong. If I take your actions and apply it to another group, it wouldn't be ok, but as soon as it comes to Jews, and Jew on Muslim anything, it's perfectly fine because the Jews are "justified" in whatever they do, right?
Armenians have been ruled by the Persians, the Romans, the Byzantines, the Georgians, and the Turks throughout much of their history, and I don't hear them whining about their "trials and tribulations", or invading Turkey to reclaim traditionally Armenian land and evicting Turks who had NOTHING to do with their great grandparents suffering. Or how about the Kurds? The traditional area of Kurdistan covers Northwestern Iran, to Eastern Turkey, Northern Iraq, and Northeastern Syria.
They have NEVER been afforded their own nation, unlike Israel, which is the creation of the UK and the United States. They've been ruled by almost everyone in the Middle East and even deported to Khorasan, just like the Jews were once deported into Mesopotamia. But they don't "get" to complain like you, do they? Only Jews "get" to complain, and have the right to punish ppl who've done nothing for the sins of their possible ancestors.
And even if they weren't, that doesn't make THEM responsible. I'm no more my father than I'm a fucking monkey. His crap isn't my crap. My family's crap isn't my crap. How can I be responsible for something someone else did? But then that begs the question, how is it even conceivable for you personally to have experienced such stupidity, and then justify the exact same kind of stupidity with the exact same kind of argument? One would think it would make you see it from the other point of view.
But that would be something the Jewish community in general is seemingly incapable of doing. You have ALWAYS taken the bad things done to you and used them to justify either your arrogance and superiority complex or as an excuse to do the same or other bad things to other people.
After WWII Germany should've paid reparations to give back the homes and lands stolen from Jews in Europe, since that's where you belonged, cuz that's where you'd been living for the past millennium.
Then everyone could be happy. Palestine would probably be occupied as part of another Arab Nation or been an independent one itself, but either way the people who had been living there wouldn't have been asked to move anywhere. But no, you the Jews felt and feel entitled to something that was no longer yours, and kicked them off, and you have the problem of the Palestinians crying for liberation and acting crazy about it, and Arab nations around the region supporting their "brothers".
All of this could've been avoided if the West, and you Jews are part of the West, would've stayed the hell out of the Middle East. Maybe it could also have been avoided if you didn't kick them out of their homes, and continually treat them like second class citizens. But hey, according to you and almost your entire community, 2 wrongs make a right, so let's make the Palestinians pay, even the innocent ones.
@macgobhain Children always want adults to let them do whatever they want. And no word describes a devout Muslim better than "child". At least psychologically they are.
Dangerous, deceitful, violent children who throw tantrums with Qassam rockets and bomb belts.
There is a reason why Muslims are so well-behaved in the West. Because in the West people make children follow RULES! In the Muslim world, they let these violent children lash out whenever they want, as long as they do so to non-Muslim
Have you ever been to the Middle East? Or Israel? Have you EVER seen those people, or those places? Or do you just hang out and believe everything you see on television? You have no idea about the world, or what goes on in it, and even if you had been to the Middle East, you're so blind with your authentically Jewish biased. You don't care about anyone else, as far as you're concerned the whole world can die, as long as a few Jews are spared.
Not really. Cuz I'm not really wrong that much? Like I said, even if you had been to the Middle East, I don't think it would matter. Cuz you say ANYTHING the Jews do as acceptable. If a few Jews die, it's worth thousands of Levantine Arab lives. Because Israel used to belong to the Hebrew people thousands of years ago, that makes it ok for you to treat the Palestinians, Syriacs, and Summaritans like dirt.
@macgobhain When our enemies seek our total annihilation, there is very little that ISN'T "acceptable".
You expect us to play by "Duchess of Queensbury" rules while our enemies play by PRISON RULES? If they don't want THEIR civilians to die, maybe they shouldn't be throwing them into the path of Israeli bullets and bombs.
Thank you for advocating the murder of Jews. It says so much about you.
Oh it says something about me? The Lebanese didn't throw anyone in the way of anything. Hezbollah does NOT represent the Lebanese people any more than the Medellin Cartel represents Colombians in South America, ESPECIALLY when the president of Lebanon is Christian and the country houses one of the largest Christian populations in the Middle East. Have you ever thought that if you stopped stealing land from Arabs and let the Palestinians living in refugee camps in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon
back into the country and stopped treating them like dirt, then maybe, just maybe the ppl in the surrounding countries wouldn't want you annihilated? It always pays to be the bigger person, but it says a lot about you that you think a few Jews are worth a few thousand Muslims, and Christians, since Christians were undoubtedly killed in Beirut as well.
@macgobhain Muslims have treated non-Muslims "like dirt" for centuries. Theiy call people who believe as I do "apes", "pigs", "dogs", "rats", and every subhuman thing you can think of OTHER THAN HUMAN. They instituted a system of sharia that ensures that non-Muslims, in the words of their scripture, "feel themselves subdued".
Are they angry that they are being treated "like dirt", or are they angry that now, in one place in the world, the shoe is on the other foot?
Historically Muslims were more tolerant of other faiths than Christians. They tolerated Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Manichaeists, Alevites, Yazidi, and Hindus for centuries. Muslim extremism is born of Arab Nationalism, which is itself a monster the West created in the 1900s. The development of using scripture for oppression is a rather recent one. Besides, even if it was all Muslims, which it's only a small minority of them, does that make it ok for Jews to do it? Do 2 wrongs make a right?
And finally, because some kids beat you up out of their ignorance, that justifies you doing the exact same thing to someone else. And all because you're Jewish. Because you are all so "unique", and you "get" to complain and do these things. So I'm sorry, who's the idiot here?
@br007306 No I was referring to your complanatory comment about the poor little Jewish boy who got beat up by ignorant Christian kids, most probably here in the US. You, just like most Jews, justify what you do to other people, like blaming innocent ppl for the sins of their hypothetical great x 1000 grandparents. Because some stupid kids said "You're a Jew, you killed Christ" You get to say "You're a Muslim, you stole my land".
Ummm when did the Jewish community formally acknowledge that Jewish clergy was responsible for Christ's death? I seem to remember a bunch of Jews calling Mel Gibson a Jew Hater when "The Passion of the Christ" came out, and you can still see their comments on the videos of it on YouTube. I've never heard one single Jew say that they believed that, instead they shift the blame to the Romans. You Jews are always just the "innocent victms", aren't you?
I've personally never heard a Muslim deny the fact that the Umayyad Caliphate conquered Palestine and took it from Byzantine rule. Oh wait, Byzantine... Greek Christians and a descendant state of the Roman Empire. Hmmm. In truth you Jews haven't had an independent state of your own since the Hasmonean dynasty ruled, and you haven't had a presence to speak of in the area since long before the Arabs conquered it. Hebrew was actually extinct as a native language around the 2-3rd century AD.
You implied it by saying that people who hate Jews or more specifically the ones living in Palestine/Israel are not innocent and therefore subject to the retribution of the Israeli military because they don't like you. The discussion was t
dirty zionists
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MrButkis 2 months ago
Israel is wrong it needs to be deleted of the face of the earth
including all zionist.
thisisroald 2 months ago
1. LIE! Jews never existed before Abraham. neither did Arabs, but either way, it does not give u the right to kick people out from their land!
2. LIE! unless Arabs are 1 billion, they can't take over every town in the middle east....
3. LIE. that statistic has no supportive study what so ever...and i challenge u to prove that.
4. the original inhabitants of Israel as a country were European, white Jews, AKA ZIONISTS in coalition with the Jewish Christians they conquered the land.
slingshot2004 2 months ago
@slingshot2004 -
Israel was a kingdom in ancient times in 1300 BC. It was a country, and Jews were the citizens of this country. Arabs did NOT EXIST IN ISRAEL in ancient times - FACT. Arabs started spreading after the 5th century, when the Arabs occupied the entire middle east, and forced the Islam on the people, and forced the Arabic culture and language.
70% of Palestinians and Arab -Israelis immigrated here in the past 150 years. It's also a fact, and their last names indicate its true
ofri75 2 months ago
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slingshot2004 2 months ago
@ofri75 FACT: not all inhabitants of palestine/ Syrian region were Jews, nor Arabs, so stop ur poor trials to prove that the land belongs to Jews only and no one should live on it BUT Jews....u can play on words as much as u want, it doesn't change the fact that God kicked u out of it bc u don't deserve it....ur back back for now, but u'll be down soon, even if Israel becomes the super power, and it will be in a 2 year period, u'll fall sooner or later....and ur false messiah will be defeated.
slingshot2004 2 months ago
@slingshot2004 - haha, it's amusing how you twist my words and lie.. I never said that "noone should live in Israel but jews" - I said Jews are the original inhabitants, and that's a true fact.
God perhaps kicked the jews out of Israel - but god also returned them back.. :so that means we deserve it, doesnt it? (since you now mention god - I can also say that Allah loves Israel! that's why Allah lets Israel win the Muslims every time!)
PS - In Israel many minorities live in freedom & peace!
ofri75 2 months ago
@ofri75 it doesn't matter what u say, it's what ur gov. is doing, ur gov. and people are kicking out the original inhabitants of this peaceful place. christians and muslims, and attacking their cemetery and worship places. yes minorities are living there, but they are being discriminated against...and i have tons of videos to prove that....another fact, if u came back to Israel, not bc God want u to, it's bc God ALLOWED u to...
slingshot2004 2 months ago
@slingshot2004 - where is the Israeli government "kicking" the "original inhabitants" exactly?? to Egypt? Syria? Jordan? LOL - what a bunch of crappy stupidity..
For your information - there are 1.5 million Israeli-Arabs, who are living as equal Israeli citizens, enjoying FULL RIGHTS, democracy, and freedom like no other Arabs enjoy in the middle East!
Arab-Israelis are ironically, the only Arabs in the Middle East who live under a free liberal democracy!
ofri75 2 months ago
@ofri75 and west bank! and now the settlements are taking people land by force in front of everyone in the UN council! u go ahead and keep defending an oppressive state....i made my point, u keep dancing around ur ideals and ur perfect made up world....u speak of Israeli-Arabs, u have not fuckin idea what u talkin about...u get ur info from ur gov. news channels and don't know shit of whats goinn on land....and we both know why no arabs are enjoying peace and freedom in the middle east....
slingshot2004 2 months ago
@ofri75 no Arab will evey enjoy peace till this Jewish state is gone....your gov. is the reason why this world is going into the third world war....wtvr man....this platform is urs...i'm not gonna argue with killers of childrens....
slingshot2004 2 months ago
@slingshot2004 - pure BS.
Israel - as the ONLY democracy in the Middle East - was attacked from DAY ONE, was invaded, terrorised, incited by SEVEN Arab countries that are surrounding Israel. To call the victim "agressor" is a well known tactic, but its not working on me. Israel already have peace with several Arab countries (Jordan, Egypt) who were brave enough to abandon terrorism, and reach out and recognize Israel.
You are a pure propagandist, who never visited Israel in your life.
ofri75 2 months ago
@ofri75 lol....sure.....have fun with ur Israel....no really...i mean it...have fun....
slingshot2004 2 months ago
@slingshot2004 - I invite you to come here - I will host you personally, so that you can see the wonderful country, to realize how nice, warm, friendly, kind are the Israelis, and how wrong you are about everything you said. (but this offer will not repeat itself so you better take it fast:-)
A ticket to Israel is only aroung 1000 - 1500 dollars from the USA - its one week of an average American income, so you can make it easily.
ofri75 2 months ago
@ofri75 and again i say it, in the first time, the Babylonians kicked u out, the second time the Romans kicked u out, and in the third time Muslims will kick u out...no matter how long it's gonna take...
this land belongs to the people who live there. and stop saying that Jews own that land...cuase there were no Jews before Jacob and his sons...God kicked u out, and you should never come back to it...maybe as tourists and local inhabitants....just like anyone else, but not as a nation...
slingshot2004 2 months ago
@slingshot2004 - it seems that you live in the "lala land"... LOL
Israel is a Jewish country... you better get used to it... why does that disturb you so much? are you racist?
80% of Israelis are JEWS. FACT. Now stop mumbling about God - you are not the only representative of God, with all due respect.,,,
ofri75 2 months ago
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slingshot2004 2 months ago
The ONLY original Arab land is Saudi-Arabia. All the rest became "Arab" because of the Arab brutal occupation, that forced the local population to convert to Islam, and adopt Arab culture & language. Many people don't know this, but it's a fact. Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and certainly Israel - were NEVER Arab originally. Israel was there as a country in 1300 BC - before Arabs lived there, before Islam was invented..We took our land back and now majority of Israelis are Jews!
ofri75 3 months ago 2
@ofri75 oh really?!?!? well guess what....most of Israelis are not Jews, cause Judaism did never exist before Israel and his sons...and the people who migrated to Palestine and only white European Jews lead by what is AKA Zionists. the land belongs to it's people, the original inhabitants, who are mostly Assyrians, Babylonians...etc. if u wanna talk history, don't start 5000 years ago only! and here is a new info for u...Arabs did migrate from Yemen at one point to Syria and Iraq...read history!
slingshot2004 2 months ago
@slingshot2004 - here are some facts:
1. Jews are the original inhabitants in Israel. Israel was a kingdom in ancient times -> no Arabs living there then.
2. Arabs spread into the middle east because of the Arab occupation. as I said, countries like Syria, Egypt or Iraq were never Arab originally.
3. 70% or palestinians migrated to Israel (Palestine) in the 19th & 20th centuries from Arab countries when there were no borders.
4. 50% of Israelis are jews from Middle Eastern /Muslim countries.
ofri75 2 months ago
@ofri75 2 questions for u, u r an atheist Palestinian....an Israeli comes to u with a sentence that says, "a thing that u don't believe in and u don't think exists promised me your house and i'm gonna kick you out for it, and i don't care where you and your family sleep tonight" what is your response to him?
2nd, Jesus will come and restore the land, but YOU, the current Jewish people, are not permitted here, God kicked u out on the hands of Babylon and Romans....and the third will be Muslims!
slingshot2004 2 months ago
@A1DiamondGirls Non-sense - he had no ideology other than his roots in Christianity. He separated himself from the Church and pretended that he was an Atheist. Even it were the case, what about the rest of the German race - were they also Atheist - they were the one committing all those atrocities against the Jews - putting them in gas chambers. You must be an ignorant and dumb as a dodo not to realize that world does hate the Jews. Should we invoke some endorsement here?
lymnaea1 3 months ago
@A1DiamondGirls Lulz! A Great show of your intelligence.
Bearlizard777 3 months ago
@A1DiamondGirls It honestly amazes me what Zionist will say to get people to support genocide. The fact is it's about the murders of Palestinians. But 13 people killed by Hamas rockets and the holocaust they had nothing to do with is all the justification you need to wipe out the Palestinians and all the other Arabs, Turks, Persians, Etc. and also is justification for the deaths of US soldiers killed in attacks by Israel and in wars for Israel. Zionism: do unto others what Nazis did unto you.
Bearlizard777 3 months ago
The little boy is exactly right; Arabs have stolen too much land.
Arabs are native to Arabia (duh); not only can Jews tell you this but so can Berbers, Copts, Nubians, Phoenicians, Assyrians and Chaldeans.
Arabs should all leave the land they stole and all go back to Arabia where they properly belong
The new government of Egypt will be killing their Copts, soon enough.
SatchmoSings 4 months ago
@SatchmoSings Are you an idiot? Because from your post, that is what I am thinking.
There are three types of races in the Islamic World (North Africa, Arabia, and the Persian-Indo Asia) [Not including the Jews]. The Indo-Aryans, the Arabs, and the Sub-Saharan Africans. You are confusing the idea of Arab with the term Muslim/ Islamic. And why do you think the Arabs have stolen the land. Because some bearded, arrogant, ass from the heavens commanded that they should own it. Bull shit.
KrasseOdaVonBayern 4 months ago
@KrasseOdaVonBayern For someone that claims such scholarship on the races of the region, you obviously know absolutely NOTHING about Zionism; it was a movement founded by SECULAR JEWS in the wake of The Dreyfus Affair; Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox Jews largely shunned Zionism until AFTER Israel was established.
That you don't know this also casts your opening claims as more than a possible fallacy.
Have a nice day!
SatchmoSings 3 months ago
@KrasseOdaVonBayern So pea-brain; today the Copts had a march to demand their rights and the Muslim-Arabs of Egypt starting to kill them; you're a total idiot.
SatchmoSings 3 months ago
WHO IS DUMB ENOUGH TO CALL THE JEWISH PEOPLE STUPID????? READ WHAT THEY HAVE GIVIN THE WORLD. MOST PEOPLE WHO DIS-LIKE JEWISH PEOPLE NEVER EVEN MET ONE...DO SOMETHING NOVEL IN YOUR LIFE "R-E-A-D." EXPAND YOUR MIND AND LEARN.
siannarino 5 months ago
MOROCCAN JEWS PROBLEM TO,,HERE IN ISRAEL
okoskutya35 5 months ago
what he said ??
okoskutya35 5 months ago
I live in Europe (Finland) and have travelled a lot! I have fucking never ever seen or hear any problems with jews and I cant say the same about muslims! And Im NOT zionist!!!
madverkus 6 months ago
@madverkus But you have heard about problems with USA(the place which is ran by jews) you know how they murder people for profit? People with money control the country and jews have plenty of it.
deadendjesenice 5 months ago
@deadendjesenice My friend firts think before you speak or write.
1qaz2wsx3edc4rfvize 5 months ago
@deadendjesenice Unlike that Finnish guy you've never traveled anywhere; you've never even been to a bathroom with a flush toilet and a shower with hot 'n' cold running water.
SatchmoSings 3 months ago
@SatchmoSings what is flush toilet? what is internet? i'm happy louis fisher doesn't taught in europe i might not understand. Americans are simply just to smart even though they developed less culutre than yogurt does in 200 years.
deadendjesenice 3 months ago
@deadendjesenice 01. Yes, you, some idiot from the Balkans, has to give me a lecture; Tito crammed you morons into a nation with a relatively high standard of living and "you people" even wound up exporting an automobile, allbeit, a really shitty one.
Then "you people" threw all this away because you're so "cultured;" you have no conception of tolerance; you're all nationalist turds beating your chests over what incredible low-life shit you can be outside of being Yugoslavian.
SatchmoSings 3 months ago
@deadendjesenice 02. Also, if you look over my channel, you'll see videos of classical music and REAL American Jazz, something that you, as a "cultured" European can't even begin to comprehend, especially judging from the videos associated with your own channel; you're an uncultured piece of shit.
Louis Fisher was a very fine journalist and writer; for many years his biography on Lenin was considered definitive.
In my country, the only thing former Yugoslavians are fit for is to run pizzerias.
SatchmoSings 3 months ago
@madverkus ,,hello from israel,,my friend
okoskutya35 5 months ago
@okoskutya35 sorry then I didnt quite get the message :)
madverkus 5 months ago
@madverkus Not cuz' I'm a Jew but you're right, Amsterdam's problems are primarily caused by Moroccan Muslim Immigrants.
kakajax 5 months ago
@madverkus Well then you have not travelled to anywhere. With Israel planted on an occupied land by the Jews who were kicked out of EU by your grandfather Hitler - because they gave him headache - they have now become a headache for the world peace - still see them innocent. For Muslims, you should be grateful to them they dragged you - the Europeans out of the dark ages and brought you to the human civilization and the life you enjoy. You should remember the history and be grateful to Muslims.
lymnaea1 5 months ago
@lymnaea1 :D I know history more than well and I have seen things in my own eyes... thing that muslims denies that are happening in Europe as we speak :D btw did you know that 1/4 of hitlers armys were muslims! I have nothing to be grateful to muslims... not now... not ever you can be sure of that! Maybe you should read some more history... there was life and CIVILIZATION before Persia, Babylonia, Assyria etc. :D
madverkus 5 months ago
@madverkus There is no cure for ignorance there has never been and there will never be one. Someone who denies historical facts ends up repeating the history. This crap about there being 1/4 of Muslims in Hitler's army - total nonsense. You grand daddy Hitler (you still seem to have the same ideology) being the white supremacist Nazi would have never allowed them near his race. He would have killed them first and then the Jews. There was life in EU but no civilization before Muslims. Read!
lymnaea1 5 months ago
@lymnaea1 Hitlers army were build up of 8 large divisions! 2 of them that fought in the eastern front were division that were totally formed of muslims! Jerusalems Gran Mufti Amin Al-Husseini and Hitler worked together because they had the same goal... you know what that was?! Ever heard of muslim Waffen SS, Bosnian SS division Handzar, Albanian muslim Nazi SS Skanderbeg division and the list goes on and on! This is a cold FACT but usually not mentioned in many history books... and you know why!
madverkus 5 months ago
@lymnaea1 Hitler's army didn't have eight divisions; they had more like 160; that's TWENTY TIMES as many.
So what, two of them were Muslim!
I'm sure the USSR also had a lot of Muslim divisions; that's the way it is in wartime.
@madverkus
SatchmoSings 4 months ago
@madverkus Non-sense, I have gone back to search history to see if Hitler invoked any Muslims to support his cause. None whatsoever. He would have killed them first rather than asking Muslims to help him out. So plane fact is that he being a Christian went after the Jews first and then the shit hit the fan. Poor Jews now think that the entire world turned against them and have since been manipulating the people expecting them to feel sorry for them. That better smarten up the world is changing.
lymnaea1 4 months ago
@lymnaea1 HAhahahahahahahaha
1qaz2wsx3edc4rfvize 5 months ago
@1qaz2wsx3edc4rfvize Is that all you can say - truth does hurt, does it not? One must not be ungrateful and accept the truth. Read history and you will find out what kind of dark ages you lived, the europeans used to live in. Had it not been for Muslim enlightenment, you would have still been the savages. It is a different story that the Muslims moved away from their principals and grand values and have disgraced themselves. Watch out there are 2.1Billion of them - they can still turn the tide.
lymnaea1 5 months ago
@lymnaea1 True but you must realize that there are other opinion in the world that must be respected, by the way that part that "they can still turn the tide" is one of them.
1qaz2wsx3edc4rfvize 5 months ago
@1qaz2wsx3edc4rfvize No questions - we all have to learn to live together - respect each other's culture and religion and work collectively to serve the humanity. What I meant was that if Muslims stop resorting to violence and stop buying things made by those countries who undermine them and not to invest in their economy, there numbers are so large that they can bring any country to its knees and then turn the tide of aggression against them. Remember in 60 years France may be Muslim majority!
lymnaea1 5 months ago
the boy hes heavy Arab accent you shalll not steal!
nissimgaga 6 months ago
i love fucking jewish boys
TheSublimedude69 6 months ago
NONONO NO NO! hi is not a Jewish boy at all hahaha............
nissimgaga 6 months ago
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nissimgaga 6 months ago
hahahahahahaha soooooo funny.
Zeitzchaim 7 months ago
the jewish religion is based of greed and stealing...thats why those rat bastards are hated by everyone. hitler killed them becuase they were oppressing his people
exahtahtor 7 months ago in playlist Real Israelites VS. So-Called Jewish
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@exahtahtor Jewish ppl are hated because they are chosen and they know how to survive ..
nissimgaga 6 months ago
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macgobhain 7 months ago
Don't confuse Atheistic Zionism with the Jewish religion/people
Blackadder153 7 months ago
I'm sorry but what does the boy ask? I Couldn't quite hear it clearly
nowgleaning 7 months ago
Oh so i guess its bad to that america fought land from the british in the revolutionary war, the people in here are idiots!!! im not jewish, but if you fight for something and u win it means u earned it!!! Retards, their not steeling their land
JacobOnMedia 7 months ago
@JacobOnMedia Hitler fought hard and conquered France and "The Low Countries" of Europe; I guess that must have made him correct, using your very own definition.
SatchmoSings 3 months ago
@SatchmoSings Yes hitler conquered countries with military battles along with taking all of the jews, gays and disabled people and slaying them....i dont think the jews did that so no u really don't hav the grounds to compare jews to hitler
JacobOnMedia 3 months ago
@JacobOnMedia Read more of the thread; maybe then you'll see that I basically agree with you.
SatchmoSings 3 months ago
zionists are masters of reductio ad absurdum
Dankman89 7 months ago
Palastine rep!!!! I wanted to this guys response
TINGB1 7 months ago
Eh, its a valid point. But it just shows that both sides are equally wrong. If its wrong to steal, its also wrong to steal back.
Anarchy17SB 7 months ago
@Anarchy17SB thank you
macgobhain 7 months ago
As I recall it, the UN proposed a division for the land of Israel following the second world war which said that both arabs and jews were to equally share the land. Who accepted this proposal? The jews. Who rejected it? U stupid fucking arabs. Now u have to suffer for being so fucking greedy. I have no respect for you barbarians. Take for example Gilad Shalit. Israel proposed to release 1500 of ur MURDERERS for one of our soldiers, and you greedy fucks want even more. I hope you all die in hell.
121Jojo 8 months ago
@121Jojo That's Muslims for you, isn't it?
br007306 8 months ago
the reality is Jews hate muslim and plan against them and kill them do a crime and and throw their dirt on muslims bcoz of this muslims doesnt like jews not the opposite. bcuz they r hurt and killed by jews the fact is tht most of the muslims esp living in India and subcontinent r so ignorent tht they even dont know wht is jew
peace12000 8 months ago
Sorry, pals left to let arabs slaughter jews and arabs lost. Quit bitching, thems the breaks
SamFreedom 8 months ago
i think it's "thou shall not kill (jews)"..."thou shall not steal (from jews)"
like you don't loan money to jews, only to other nations.. so you can then own those nations.. - deuteronomy
danmang 8 months ago
Thank you Israel for showing us that the Holocaust can be continued , only this time the victims are the peaceful Palestinians. Israel does not exist, it is called Palestine, and Israeli is not a national identity but a title given to invaders.
chicheater1 8 months ago
@chicheater1 Thank you Muslims for continuing to prove that the Jewish people are totally justified in their actions. Thank you as well for showing through your suicide bombers and the leaders of your countries that you and yours are NOT a "religion of peace". Palestine is not a nation, it is a construct of lying Arabs to chip away falsely & maliciously at the TRUE claim of the Jewish people to the land of ISRAEL!
"a title given to invaders"?
Just as the name "Palestine" was given BY invaders.
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 You do know I'm Atheist. Just because I hate Israel doesn't make me a Muslim, because most of the world does hate Israel, but most of the world aren't Muslim. The only reason Israel exists is because you receive aid from the USA and the UK who gave you a chance at existence. Jews have no claim to Palestine, just because you were bullied out of Europe by the Holocaust and Pogrom doesn't mean you have a right to steal land from people who settled there because your fake god "promised" it
chicheater1 8 months ago
@chicheater1 You mean Israel took it back from the people who settled there after they stole it from the Jews in the first place.
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 those ppl are dead. nobody's alive today who took israel from the Jews.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@br007306 That was thousands of years ago. Your people lived alongside the Arabs for thousands of years in Palestine; Hitler comes along and starts mass genocides, so you decide to take out your own genocide on the Palestinians. You're no better than Hitler.
chicheater1 8 months ago
@chicheater1 Well said.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@chicheater1 You left something out: the part where the Muslims would use every pretext to attack the Jews in the land of Israel.
"genocide"?
Oh, you mean the "genocide" where there are more than SIX TIMES the number of "Palestinians" alive today than were alive at the "start" of it?
br007306 8 months ago
@chicheater1 "You're no better than Hitler"? Did Hitler have to worry about Jews suicide-bombing Berlin civilians? Did Hitler have rockets firing from the Warsaw ghetto into Germany?
No, he did not.
He just invaded non-aggressive countries and rounded up the Jews who were MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS!
"That was thousands of years ago."? So stealing is okay if it was a long time ago, and the victims were Jews?
br007306 8 months ago
No the British just worried about Jews suicide bombing civilians in Palestine back in the 30s and 40s. Now, of course the Holocaust was wrong, and yes, the Jews were minding their own business, nobody says they weren't. But that doesn't justify you coming over to a country that you're people have barely lived in over the courst of the last millennium and a half and kicking out the now native inhabitants.
macgobhain 8 months ago
No, stealing is never ok. But nobody stole ANYTHING from you, and the ppl who stole aren't alive to be punished, just innocent ppl who were minding THEIR own business who you Jews choose to take out your anger on over crimes committed not tens, not hundreds, but THOUSANDS of years ago. Maybe I should run up to Rome and shoot some Romans for conquering the Sicels and Elymians. That makes a whole shit ton of sense. The point is you are no more entitled to that land than Armenians are to Turkey.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Well, if the Armenians amassed an army and took it back FROM the Turks, they would.
You know? Like what the Jews did in Israel? And for the same reason?
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 No, they wouldn't. It wouldn't matter. There are already people living in Turkey who had nothing to do with taking it from the Armenians. It would be just as wrong as kicking the English out of England, or all the white people out of America, or the Turkish Azerbaijani people out of Azerbaijain and Northern Iran to make way for the Ossetians and the other Iranians since an Iranian group named the Azeris used to live there. It would all be wrong, because it was in the past.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain But none of those other "first peoples" took their countries back like Israel did. So all those examples you gave are purely speculative. The Jews taking back the land of Israel is a unique case in history, and anyone disagreeing with their right to do so does not weigh the merits of the Jewish case but hates Jews. And your words are just an example of that in miniature.
br007306 8 months ago
Yeah I would say it's a unique case that way. Everyone else has the maturity as a people to accept the past and live with it, and live in the modern world alongside each other. Armenians stay in Armenia, the Welsh and Cornish live alongside the British, the Native Americans live with us white people, it's a win win situation every where else, except with you, because you're determined to make everyone pay for the past. So if you take pride in that, that's just sad.
macgobhain 8 months ago
Punishing the son for the father's sin is wrong as it is, but you think it's ok to punish the great+ 1000 grand child for their great + 1000 grandfather's sin, because the Holocaust happened. Guess what, nobody minds that you live in Europe anymore, or the United States, but we mind that you treat Palestinians like animals and deport them from their own country because you need someone to bully. It's PATHETIC. You have no right to Israel, that right has been gone for over a thousand years.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain The Israelis are not "bullying" anyone. The "Palestinians" claim the exclusive right to the land and have demanded that the Jews leave, and have murdered Israeli civilians to do so. And they have stated their intention to continue to do so. That is not "to punish the great+ 1000 grand child for their great + 1000 grandfather's sin", that is happening RIGHT NOW! The actions of the Israelis towards the "Palestinians" are efforts to protect Israeli civilians.
The rest is YOUR opinion!
br007306 8 months ago
Ha! If I had a dollar for how many times I watched the Israeli police beat the shit out of and/or intimidate Palestinian men and kids, or for all the times the Jews looked down their noses at them and treated them like second class citizens during the 6-7 weeks while I was there I'd be a rich man. Jews treat Palestinians and Syriacs like DIRT, and it's been going on since your Zionist movement in the late 1800s through the time you came back to STEAL PALESTINE from the Palestinians in the 40s.
macgobhain 8 months ago
And yes, I know Palestinians want the Jews the hell out of Israel. How would you feel if a bunch of people who hadn't lived somewhere for over 1500 years, let's not forget the amount of time passed here, came back and told you that you had to get the fuck out and "make way" because you "stole" it from them before Europe was even Christianized. I'd want you out too. Do I condone their methods? Of course not, but I understand where they're coming from.
macgobhain 8 months ago
So shut the fuck up, and quit bitching about the past, you dumb ass JEW! Maybe if there was less of this entitlement, less of this "WE are so much better" attitude, then the rest of the world wouldn't feel inclined to deport you from wherever you try and stay.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain AND THERE IT IS! The inevitable Jew-hatred that is so characteristic of those who are anti-Israeli.
Oh, and "shut the fuck up"? Such a high-end argument to what WAS a mature conversation.
Bravo. Put me in MY place, didn't you?
Of course, "my place" is WINNING THE ARGUMENT!!!
Now let's hear some more Jew-hating slurs and seal the deal!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 lol no, cuz I've already looked at ur channel and seen that you're really nothing but a dumb Jewish troll with an axe to grind. No, I didn't put you in your place, YOU did. You proved how stupid and ignorantly biased you are, by saying again and again that Jews are entitled to things other people aren't because you're Jewish, and thus "a unique case". It's exactly that that makes you a biased, ignorant, Jew. And it's exactly that kind of behavior that makes half the world hate you.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Oh, so now I'm a "troll"? Why do people like you use that word so much? Is it because you think that the word "troll" is this stupid magical incantation that Jew haters can utter to shame me into silence?
Not going to happen.
Because in MY case "troll" means "TRUTH TELLER ON A ROLL"!
It means you are intimidated by the truth I speak, and you have no real answer for it other than to rant about "how entitled you Jews feel"and "how the world hates you" blah blah blah!
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 Yeah. Sure. If that's what makes you happy keep thinking that. What truth are you telling? You never explained how the Jews are a "unique case".I'm not intimidated by anything, and I don't think people who don't like Jews for your entitlement attitude normally are, we're just annoyed, and sick of hearing you rant about how much better you are than all of us and how you're all just "letting" us gentiles live on this planet.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Actually I did say why. Try paying attention.
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 yes well I already addressed why that's pathetic. Try paying attention to that. Yours is the only nation that doesn't have the maturity to accept the past - sad.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain But yet Palestinians just can't accept the fact that Jews are running a nation that they once possessed because their ancestors stole it from the Jews.
And if you want to talk about "maturity", then maybe the Palestinians should stop throwing tantrums with bomb belts and Qassam rockets.
YOUR not accepting those tactics is irrelevant. The Palestinians accept them, and therefore deserve whatever scrutiny police give them on the street. It's called backlash.
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 Oh, so pepper spraying a twelve year old who glares at you when you call him an Arab in the most condescending tone of voice possible after he asked you a question is totally acceptable? That's "backlash", huh? lol. Yeah, they can't accept the fact that the Jews run the country and routinely harrass them and kick them off their land when they have their grandparents who were still alive talking about how it used to be before you Jews took over. It's a little hard. Excuse them.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain And targeting and murdering Israeli civilians iS "acceptable"? Being persecuted the world over for every imaginary offense under the sun for millenia and being accused of being Nazis because you don't want your civilians to die IS "acceptable"? Watching the "Palestinians" celebrate 9/11 and then having them LIE TO YOU that it never happened, or that Israel DID 9/11? How about that? And then being told that the land that was stolen from your ancestors has to REMAIN stolen from you?
br007306 8 months ago
See there you go babbling about the past again as if it matters. Yeah, ppl have persecuted Jews for thousands of years, mostly because in all truth your not the most likeable ppl in the world for the same reasons that we're having this discussion, but that doesn't justify it. But that is the PAST. The Kurds have been persecuted just as much as you, but you don't hear them complain HALF as much as you do. And no, I don't think it's cool that some of the Palestinians celebrated 9/11,
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain So complaining about an injustice makes someone wrong? Then the Palestinians are wrong as can be, because they complain a whole lot.
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 yeah well the injustices to their ppl are kind of a daily occurrence. their still living grandparents can remember a time when Palestine was Palestine, before you Jews came back to steal it.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain You can't steal a nation that never was. "Palestine" was never an independent sovereign nation, it was always under one form of occupation or another. Only when the Jews got the land BACK did the Muslims claim any kind of "Palestinian statehood".
br007306 8 months ago
Yeah, because they were never told they had to move until you came along. How funny that Jews from Europe who had Nazis tell them they had to leave their homes went over to the Middle East and did the same thing.
macgobhain 8 months ago
but I'm also smart enough to know that the ones that are paraded across the Western media doing that are actually a lot fewer than you're trained to think. Like the college students who drove thru the streets of Damascus cheering for Hezbollah. It was just a few college students, and minimal Israeli casualties, but that was enough to go bomb the living shit out of Lebanon and kill thousands of innocent civilians, right? A few Jewish lives worth a thousand gentile? lol.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain No, it was all the rockets and the attacks from Hezbollah on Israeli civilians that justified the response from Israel.
Damned inconsiderate of Hezbollah to attack from behind those civilians, if you ask me. Maybe they shouldn't have been using them a human shields. Bad things happen when they do stuff like that.
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 yeah bad things happen like Jews bombing Beirut and killing 10 times the civilians that were hurt by those rockets from Hezbollah. But it's ok right? It's your righteous Jewish might? So maybe the United States should go level Mexico City cuz of all the attacks on American civilians by the cartels?
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain As opposed to what? Letting Hezbollah and Hamas continue to shell Israeli civilians because "oh my gosh we just can't hurt the civilians of the enemy"? Interesting how Israel's enemies expect Israel to have more concern for the lives of the enemies' civilians than their enemies do.
br007306 8 months ago
Hahahaha so two wrongs make a right? Or is that only where Jews are concerned? Again, cuz your so "unique". Besides, the Israeli military killed waaaaaaaaaaaay more civilians in Beirut than those pathetic attacks on some border villages, so sorry, it's just not even in the same ball field.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain And were the Israelis in those "border villages" human beings? Were they civilians? Did the Israelis in those "border villages" attack first? Or wasn't it Hezbollah that attacked first?
The Muslim screams in pain as he hits somebody else.
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 Of course they were human beings, and civilians. That doesn't justify the murder of THOUSANDS more people in Beirut who have NOTHING to do with Hezbollah. Hezbollah in these countries is like the cartels in Mexico and South America. The ppl don't exactly support them, but they have their fingers in government. If you had any idea what you were talking about you'd know that. But just like any other Jew I've talked to, you really don't. You're too busy crying in your soup.
macgobhain 8 months ago
The fact remains that the Palestinians were there and your people had lost any claim to that land 1500 years ago. I think instead of opening up an already inhabited area for you, countries in Europe should have welcomed you back with Germany paying reparations. The past doesn't justify what you're doing today, and the FEW, cuz they are VERY FEW Palestinians who actually do these things are wrong and certainly going to hell, but THEIR actions would be more appropriately defined as a "backlash".
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain But those countries aren't Israel. That is the whole point.
And who claims the Jews "lost any claim to the land"? Muslims? People who are biased against Jews? The people who are the descendants of those who stole the land and persecuted the Jews in the first place?
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 First of all, let's get this straight. It's Palestine. I'm not even biased against most Jews and I recognize Palestinian sovereignty, just like almost the entire world does, outside the United States and the EU. And yes, Muslims, ppl who've actually been living there, claim that you lost your claim to the land. Is it a crime to be descended from someone who did something bad? I suppose you think that White Southern Americans should pay reparations to black families?
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Muslims claim that their prophet Mohammad took a night journey to al-Quds and then flew to heaven to meet Moses and Jesus on a winged horse. That doesn't mean I have to believe it.
"Is it a crime to be descended from someone who did something bad?"
Gee, don't know. Why don't you ask all the people who said that I "killed Jesus" because I'm Jewish and therefore "cursed by God" and then proceeded to beat the crap out of me for it?
Apparently THEY think that.
br007306 8 months ago
How typically Jewish of you. I'm Catholic myself, and I fully believe that the Jewish clergy was responsible for the death of Christ, that doesn't mean I think Jews today are responsible. So because other people were ignorant and belligerent, that justifies you're ignorance and belligerence? Because two wrongs always make a right. No, of course YOU personally didn't kill Christ. The descendants of the Pherushim and peasants responsible are probably all dead.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Just like a "Catholic" to take the side of those who hate Jews.
br007306 8 months ago
Yeah, the whole world is against YOU. Ha. I've been to your synogogue I've listened to what you people talk about. It's like your entire religion is centered around moaning about the past. "In the days when our people suffered in Babylon, in the days when our people suffered in Persia, in the days when our people suffered under the Romans," all you do is complain and teach your children to complain, and teach everyone to alienate themselves from the rest of us "gentiles"
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Just like YOU complain about Jews and Israel. Go figure. Hypocrite much?
Jews "complain" because WE GET TO "complain". It's called injustice. You seem to know what that's like because of your sense of selective outrage.
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 My sense of selective outrage? Hypocrite? My entire religion isn't centered around selective victimology. Jews "get" to complain, huh? So do the Armenians too? Or the Zazaks? Our government is just barely acknowledging that the Armenian Genocide happened, which proportionally, killed more Armenians than the Holocaust did Jews. Do the Armenians "get" to complain? Is their entire religion, the Armenian Apostolic Church centered around their victimology?
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Yes, the Armenians DO get to complain.
They had their land stolen from them by Muslims also. Learn history.
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 I highly doubt you even knew about the Armenian Genocide before I just spelled it out for you, so don't tell me I need to learn history. And so now is it only people that had their land stolen by Muslims? So how about the peoples of Russia? Evenks, Nganasans, etc. Should they be given all of Siberia back? Even though the ethnic Russians who live there now didn't steal the land?
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Yes, I did know about the Armenian genocide. I read things called "books". You've heard of books, haven't you?
br007306 8 months ago
Hahaha, cute way to try and make yourself seem like the intelligent one here. I don't think anyone buys it tho. Sorry
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain "I don't think..."
That's the most truthful statement you've said in this argument. Once in a while you are capable of telling the truth, no matter how inadvertently you do so.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
br007306 8 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
???? What's that about?
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain It's called "laughter". I tend to do that in the face of anti-Israeli stupidity.
br007306 8 months ago
Oh well in that case HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I tend to do that when reading or listening to stupid, ignorant, hypocritical Jews.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain There. See? Don't you feel better laughing? The difference is I laugh and I'm right, and you laugh and are wrong.
br007306 8 months ago
Right about what? That 2 wrongs make a right? lol.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Israel is "right" so much as it is justified in defending itself against an enemy that has foresworn the destruction of the Jewish state. The second "wrong" is commited by the Palestinians when they target and murder Israeli civilians and compare Jews to farm animals and vermin. They are not interested in compromise. At all. But Israel is expected to do so, and is rewarded with nothing in return.
Case in point: Gaza handed over to Hamas, Hamas attacks Israel from it.
br007306 8 months ago
No, and they shouldn't have to compromise with IMMIGRANTS. Should we Americans compromise with illegal Mexicans? I think not. You IMMIGRATED to that land long after anyone you were potentially related to had left. You're anything but native. So why in pluperfect hell should the natives compromise for you? That doesn't make any sense at all. Of course now there are Jews who have been born in Israel and are as native as any Palestinian. So what's the solution?
macgobhain 8 months ago
The proper solution would be to allow the Palestinians over the border to come in and accommodate them, and only treat the ones who specifically target Israel. You don't persecute a people for the behavior of a few, or even a good amount. Mexicans and Black people are statistically criminals. It's a fact, and if you dispute it, then you must not live in the same reality as everyone else. They are in general more involved in gang activity and crime and at an earlier age than White kids
macgobhain 8 months ago
But we don't persecute, or look down our noses at them for it. If some Palestinians who are allowed to come home and allowed to live along side you the Jews. If some of them act crazy, then you do something about them. You don't punish the community.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Because the Palestinians don't do anything about them, and even enable them. It would be nice if Hamas and Hezbollah would police their own, but the fact of the matter is that they won't because they agree with them "acting crazy". Hence the need of Isral to "punish the community". Which is what the jihadists want, and what the jihadists get.
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 Mexicans and Black people don't police their own for shit. In fact that's the last thing they do. They're all so busy not snitching because they don't see the action of pulling a drive-by on someone who disrespected the colors you were wearing as wrong enough to be worthy of legal action. So we should cram them into confined spaces like Gaza or the ghettos, and then look down our noses at them and treat them like second or even third class citizens.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Don't see Mexicans and black people strapping on bombs and attacking people on a daily basis. If they do, let me know if you are still going to be snippy about Israel's efforts to secure its nation/.
br007306 8 months ago
Oh no, they just blow the brains out of each other and any white person that walks down the wrong street. So yeah, I'm still "snippy". You don't punish a race for how some of them act. That's called being racist.
macgobhain 8 months ago
See the problem here is, you don't think anything Jews do is wrong. If I take your actions and apply it to another group, it wouldn't be ok, but as soon as it comes to Jews, and Jew on Muslim anything, it's perfectly fine because the Jews are "justified" in whatever they do, right?
macgobhain 8 months ago
Armenians have been ruled by the Persians, the Romans, the Byzantines, the Georgians, and the Turks throughout much of their history, and I don't hear them whining about their "trials and tribulations", or invading Turkey to reclaim traditionally Armenian land and evicting Turks who had NOTHING to do with their great grandparents suffering. Or how about the Kurds? The traditional area of Kurdistan covers Northwestern Iran, to Eastern Turkey, Northern Iraq, and Northeastern Syria.
macgobhain 8 months ago
They have NEVER been afforded their own nation, unlike Israel, which is the creation of the UK and the United States. They've been ruled by almost everyone in the Middle East and even deported to Khorasan, just like the Jews were once deported into Mesopotamia. But they don't "get" to complain like you, do they? Only Jews "get" to complain, and have the right to punish ppl who've done nothing for the sins of their possible ancestors.
macgobhain 8 months ago
cuz we'll never understand "what it means" to be Jewish, and thus "God's chosen people".
macgobhain 8 months ago
And even if they weren't, that doesn't make THEM responsible. I'm no more my father than I'm a fucking monkey. His crap isn't my crap. My family's crap isn't my crap. How can I be responsible for something someone else did? But then that begs the question, how is it even conceivable for you personally to have experienced such stupidity, and then justify the exact same kind of stupidity with the exact same kind of argument? One would think it would make you see it from the other point of view.
macgobhain 8 months ago
But that would be something the Jewish community in general is seemingly incapable of doing. You have ALWAYS taken the bad things done to you and used them to justify either your arrogance and superiority complex or as an excuse to do the same or other bad things to other people.
After WWII Germany should've paid reparations to give back the homes and lands stolen from Jews in Europe, since that's where you belonged, cuz that's where you'd been living for the past millennium.
macgobhain 8 months ago
Then everyone could be happy. Palestine would probably be occupied as part of another Arab Nation or been an independent one itself, but either way the people who had been living there wouldn't have been asked to move anywhere. But no, you the Jews felt and feel entitled to something that was no longer yours, and kicked them off, and you have the problem of the Palestinians crying for liberation and acting crazy about it, and Arab nations around the region supporting their "brothers".
macgobhain 8 months ago
All of this could've been avoided if the West, and you Jews are part of the West, would've stayed the hell out of the Middle East. Maybe it could also have been avoided if you didn't kick them out of their homes, and continually treat them like second class citizens. But hey, according to you and almost your entire community, 2 wrongs make a right, so let's make the Palestinians pay, even the innocent ones.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Children always want adults to let them do whatever they want. And no word describes a devout Muslim better than "child". At least psychologically they are.
Dangerous, deceitful, violent children who throw tantrums with Qassam rockets and bomb belts.
There is a reason why Muslims are so well-behaved in the West. Because in the West people make children follow RULES! In the Muslim world, they let these violent children lash out whenever they want, as long as they do so to non-Muslim
br007306 8 months ago
Have you ever been to the Middle East? Or Israel? Have you EVER seen those people, or those places? Or do you just hang out and believe everything you see on television? You have no idea about the world, or what goes on in it, and even if you had been to the Middle East, you're so blind with your authentically Jewish biased. You don't care about anyone else, as far as you're concerned the whole world can die, as long as a few Jews are spared.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Keep making assumptions. It's so funny to read your continued ignorance. Don't you find it so frustrating being wrong so much?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
br007306 8 months ago
Not really. Cuz I'm not really wrong that much? Like I said, even if you had been to the Middle East, I don't think it would matter. Cuz you say ANYTHING the Jews do as acceptable. If a few Jews die, it's worth thousands of Levantine Arab lives. Because Israel used to belong to the Hebrew people thousands of years ago, that makes it ok for you to treat the Palestinians, Syriacs, and Summaritans like dirt.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain When our enemies seek our total annihilation, there is very little that ISN'T "acceptable".
You expect us to play by "Duchess of Queensbury" rules while our enemies play by PRISON RULES? If they don't want THEIR civilians to die, maybe they shouldn't be throwing them into the path of Israeli bullets and bombs.
Thank you for advocating the murder of Jews. It says so much about you.
br007306 8 months ago
Oh it says something about me? The Lebanese didn't throw anyone in the way of anything. Hezbollah does NOT represent the Lebanese people any more than the Medellin Cartel represents Colombians in South America, ESPECIALLY when the president of Lebanon is Christian and the country houses one of the largest Christian populations in the Middle East. Have you ever thought that if you stopped stealing land from Arabs and let the Palestinians living in refugee camps in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon
macgobhain 8 months ago
back into the country and stopped treating them like dirt, then maybe, just maybe the ppl in the surrounding countries wouldn't want you annihilated? It always pays to be the bigger person, but it says a lot about you that you think a few Jews are worth a few thousand Muslims, and Christians, since Christians were undoubtedly killed in Beirut as well.
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Muslims have treated non-Muslims "like dirt" for centuries. Theiy call people who believe as I do "apes", "pigs", "dogs", "rats", and every subhuman thing you can think of OTHER THAN HUMAN. They instituted a system of sharia that ensures that non-Muslims, in the words of their scripture, "feel themselves subdued".
Are they angry that they are being treated "like dirt", or are they angry that now, in one place in the world, the shoe is on the other foot?
br007306 8 months ago
Historically Muslims were more tolerant of other faiths than Christians. They tolerated Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Manichaeists, Alevites, Yazidi, and Hindus for centuries. Muslim extremism is born of Arab Nationalism, which is itself a monster the West created in the 1900s. The development of using scripture for oppression is a rather recent one. Besides, even if it was all Muslims, which it's only a small minority of them, does that make it ok for Jews to do it? Do 2 wrongs make a right?
macgobhain 8 months ago
And finally, because some kids beat you up out of their ignorance, that justifies you doing the exact same thing to someone else. And all because you're Jewish. Because you are all so "unique", and you "get" to complain and do these things. So I'm sorry, who's the idiot here?
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain Am I "beating" you up?
Boy, are you a wimp.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
br007306 8 months ago
@br007306 No I was referring to your complanatory comment about the poor little Jewish boy who got beat up by ignorant Christian kids, most probably here in the US. You, just like most Jews, justify what you do to other people, like blaming innocent ppl for the sins of their hypothetical great x 1000 grandparents. Because some stupid kids said "You're a Jew, you killed Christ" You get to say "You're a Muslim, you stole my land".
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain The people who today want to target every single Jew in Israel and all over the world are hardly "innocent".
Jew acknowledge that Jesus was killed. Muslims refuse to acknowledge that the land was stolen from the Jews. Therein lies the difference.
br007306 8 months ago
Ummm when did the Jewish community formally acknowledge that Jewish clergy was responsible for Christ's death? I seem to remember a bunch of Jews calling Mel Gibson a Jew Hater when "The Passion of the Christ" came out, and you can still see their comments on the videos of it on YouTube. I've never heard one single Jew say that they believed that, instead they shift the blame to the Romans. You Jews are always just the "innocent victms", aren't you?
macgobhain 8 months ago
I've personally never heard a Muslim deny the fact that the Umayyad Caliphate conquered Palestine and took it from Byzantine rule. Oh wait, Byzantine... Greek Christians and a descendant state of the Roman Empire. Hmmm. In truth you Jews haven't had an independent state of your own since the Hasmonean dynasty ruled, and you haven't had a presence to speak of in the area since long before the Arabs conquered it. Hebrew was actually extinct as a native language around the 2-3rd century AD.
macgobhain 8 months ago
And anyone who doesn't like Jews deserves to die, eh? What an interesting argument. But you're not biased at all, are you?
macgobhain 8 months ago
@macgobhain When did I say that? Typical argument, putting words into my mouth.
br007306 8 months ago
You implied it by saying that people who hate Jews or more specifically the ones living in Palestine/Israel are not innocent and therefore subject to the retribution of the Israeli military because they don't like you. The discussion was t