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  • Se lo dedico a DIANA CAROLINA FONTECHA OCHOA, dice JORGE ALBERTO BARON

  • The painting is funny to me in thhis context because it seems like he could be playing an oboe from the way the lips are pursed.

  • Does anybody knows how to find some sheet music for this?

  • FELIZ NAVIDAD 2011 Y PROSPERO AÑO NUEVO 2012 LES DESEA JORGE ALBERTO BARON. DEDICO ESTA OBRA A MI HIJA ELISA MAXIMILIANE BARON OVALLE, DIJO JORGE ALBERTO BARON DESDE BOGOTA, COLOMBIA, SURAMERICA

  • odeio a tua música

  • Back in the day Telemann was compared very favorably to Bach. Aside from Bach's Goldberg Variations, Brandenburg Concertos, and a few other select works, Telemann, to me, is far more pleasing to the ear.  That isn't to say Bach wasn't pure genius. He was. Telemann is just better candy for the ear, in my humble opinion.

  • telemann es un genio

  • My cat loves Telemann and Iced Earth, he doesn't particularyly enjoy Bach (which is a shame of course) or Händel but he loves Judas Priest.

  • @AlsatianCousin My cat enjoys any music accompanied by a bowl of chopped chicken.

  • This kind of music (Albinoni, Marcelo, Telemann, Haendel,Vivaldi etc,etc) puts me always puts me in touch with GOD and his angels.

  • @prodipe23 GOD and his angels

    Who on Earth is thatz GAWD?

  • HashSmokerDude420 is so on the mark. Most people who are into classical music are such snobbish jerks about it. Thank God I was brought up in a home where there was every type of music. I never learned to think that I was anything special just because I appreciate the classics. I learned to appreciate Classical music and Opera from hearing it around the house often. I also heard all the Jazz and Blues greats, and even Blue Grass. Music in any form was welcomed in our home.

  • @daisymae229 That's just the typical form of subdued snobbism going "oh I'm so tolerant and cool because I like Bach like I like Elvis". This sort of "discussion" is NEVER so much about music, classical or of whatever sort, as about the ego of the listeners, whether uptight or goody goody, and in the lashing of each other they slash the music caught in the middle

  • @HashSmokerDude420 I think everyone is being ridiculous. This is why most people don't like classical music becuase classical musicians are so snobby and think they are better and know everything. Its not fair to treat HashSmokerDude like an idiot just becuase he doesnt know everything about baroque music. Everyone wants to complain about cutting funding for music but no one here seems to be doing anything to get people interested. this is how to get everyone to hate it.

  • Teleman is awesome too but I think that what makes jsbach so awesome is that his contemporaries were all fantastic so he learned from all of them.

    I just think that Baroque PWNS all other form of music, this is just bAd ASS!!

  • @stargirlsusan, I kind of agree. Baroque, Classical, Renaissance, and especially, Medieval music is great. Some Romantic music is wonderful too.

  • @KhagarBalugrak As Weird as it may sound i dont fancy classical, or Romantic. I dont know why but I have not developed an apreciation for it, It becomes boring to me somehow. I say it's weird because most of the people I know do not even notice the difference between this styles and I  seem to unconsciously notice the difference.

  • @stargirlsusan, I see. Well, that might actually be a good thing. The decline of Western music definitely began in the Romantic period, with music becoming more and more dissonant and ugly, and then things REALLY started to get horrible in the 20th century with people like Schoenberg and Webern. Music from the Baroque period and earlier definitely has a depth and purity that later music does not possess.

  • @KhagarBalugrak I agree 101%. To much experiments of blind persons ruined classical music, and alienate that kind of music. Many people do not like classical music of Schoenberg ans Stravinsky for example.

  • @Santor6 Your mind s too weak to understand Liszt and Co. It's totally ok tho, don't bother, just grow up. Best wishes from Russia. Ingvar.

  • @igorpeable My russian friend. You want to say, Teleman music is for childs, and Liszt and Co. are for adoults like you? How proud you are. Or idiotic. If I do not undestand mumbling of lunatics, that is not reason to call me a child. So YOU grow up.

  • @Santor6 Thanks for the reply:-) I did not mean Baroque is for kids, my point was some music is harder, and, indeed, one needs a significant experience with Classical and Baroque in order to grasp the messages of later music. I didn't mean to be offencive though, excuse me if I was. At the end of the day me Russian, as you rightly mentioned:-)

  • @Santor6 Most people that don't like Stravinksy and Schoenberg are quite right. The whole point of their music was to surprise the listener. The dissonances are there for the musically informed to decipher and unscramble t find the true brilliance of their composer.

  • @KhagarBalugrak Couldn't agree more. from medieval to Renaissance and Baroque, the music is much more visceral and exalts the best of mankind.

  • @stargirlsusan its just different styles of music.

    some types float some peoples boats. I personally don't really like Mozart or Haydn but love I Beethoven, because their styles are just different. Its not as much about genre as quality of the musicians in their respective eras. For example, Bach is good no matter if you like baroque music or not, most all humans if not all can agree that Bach's music is universally beautiful because he had that quality as a musician.

  • I think that, even J.S Bach would have appreciate and copy for his own purpose this tremendous piece !

  • im being forced to look this crap up

  • @purpleman7755 How is this "crap"? Respect it for what it is. This was AMAZING what they could do back in this day, as it still is today.

    Even if you don't like it, just respect it, it took a lot of work to write this considering it was around in the 1700's.

  • @purpleman7755 The rendition may be barely just correct, and the divergences in the score employed are only too normal in works of that era, but even so there is more than enough Telemann in there to elevate the whole far far far far above the "crap" level.

  • fuck bethoven this is where the real shit is at!

  • @mindmonkey00 I don't know if I would go as far as to completely neglect Beethoven...his music is beyond incredible. And his style of music is his own. No other human will ever sound like Beethoven, before Beethoven, humans couldn't even conceive that music such as Beethoven's could even be made. His style was and is still so completely unique and so beautiful because of that aspect of it.

  • Bellissimo il concerto di Telemann,ma che brutto suono che ha questa oboista...

  • que maravilloso el concierto este es buenísimo sin palabras grande grande

    otras grácias al barroco :)

  • Four people don't understand beauty of this music... That's pathetic...

    It's one of the most beautiful baroque piece, and Telemann is a very very talented composer... I just love this oboe concerto...

  • as we can see teleman is on his way into the early classical music through this piece

  • @HashSmokerDude420 problem is u don't read music like us

  • stupidity is like this music score- timeless

  • hahahaha I love that argument at the top of the page.

  • I still love this wonderfully beautiful and mind enhancing music, despite all of these ridiculous and pitiful insults and "name calling" on the posted comments. You sound like Visy goths, Lombards, Cossacks, and unfortunately, U.S. politicians instead of the caliber of people which we who love this music, are supposed to be!

  • Superb - like all Telemann! ( I had to laugh at who ever is pulling legs calling the concerto a 'song'! Almost as funny as those who call every piece of music a 'tune'!)

  • Oh my! I cant stop laughing.... @HashSmokerDude420 - you are the funniest! I'm so embarrassed for you... LMFAO...

  • I cannot believe what i've just read... I still think it is a joke. A good one, by the way. I know some people who does this kind of questions just to create confusion, n have fun. Such a question could have been easily answered in google...

  • @HashSmokerDude420 And stop calling it a song. This is not pop music. It's a concerto for oboe.

  • @HashSmokerDude420 What kind of an idiot are you? Of course it's not the original PERFORMANCE! That was given in the 18th century! Composers write their music in a SCORE so that orchestras (or other kind of ensembles) can play their pieces!

  • @HashSmokerDude420 Oh God... Telemann wrote this concerto in form of a score. Then, he published it, or the manuscript survived. The orchestra used it and played it. This is a recording of 2002 of a piece from the 1700's...

  • @HashSmokerDude420 That's a joke, right?

  • que hermosooo concierto!!!!!!!!!!! por casualidad alguien tiene ese concierto para que me lo facilite!!!!!!

  • A @oliverlapidus:lo bueno de obras maestras como ésta,radica en que tanto a trabajadores de cuello blanco o azúl,la música les puede transportar a una belleza mas allá del propio trabajo.

    Visto así Telemann fue un cuello blanco pues en vida fue colmado de privilegios y honores.

    Los hermanos Marcello,(Alessandro y Benedetto),compusieron por mero "diletantísmo",al ser inmensamente ricos.

    Mientras,J.S.Bach para alimentar a su familia,tenía que componer una cantata por semana.

    ¡Queda la música!.

  • @nakedBison69 Interesting, someone who claims to be a "Torah Jew" is using his computer on Shabbat. Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-? Do you think that just by re-stating what I say while changing the names makes your point? Enough time wasted on this fool....

  • @MrRichardKranium

    I read your comment with mild interest and amusement because, although his comments have apparently been deleted, I have run afoul of this curious nakedBison character myself.

    "Do you think that just by re-stating what I say while changing the names makes your point?"

    He *always* does that, repeatedly and inveterately.

    I am not at all joking when I say I suspect he is either severely autistic, or perhaps not human at all but a bad AI program created by cheeky grad students.

  • @polymath7 Google nakedBison69 and you will see how long he has been doing this.

  • beautiful

    

  • Honestly....i think a oboe should take flight..not skip..... just saying..

  • To play so well you have to practice years and years. Many hours every day. Lots of work, hard work. And you need to have a talent as well. And after that all you can get is a minimal salary (if any at all) and usually die in poverty... Poor oboe players...

  • @oliverlapidus

    The way I see it, oboe players are poor yes but they're also doing what they love. So you have at one end a person who's satisfied with their achievements, doing their passion but poor (the oboist).

    At the other end are those ppl who work cubicle jobs, are probably miserable AND getting a low salary.

    Idk suddenly being an oboist sounds pretty good to me xD

  • @SexyNerd4u and there are also people who work cubicle jobs, get a good salary and are also frustrated. I used to be one of those, and I just decided to quit and study viola, among other things. Doing what you love is the best thing anyone could do. :)

  • @oliverlapidus I think you are still living back in the 1700's because being a musician nowadays is a very broad education/job :)

    an I'm not planning to die in poverty, ofcourse

  • @oliverlapidus In this cruel and unfair world I am not surprised about that. BLUE COLLAR JOBS (Men who really, literally work hard) = small salary

    WHITE COLLAR JOBS (especially in Politics, most men here are airheads and disrespectful asses) = big salary.

    Life isn't just fair, if only Salary is based on how HARD it is to work in that certain field other than the Job title itself.

  • it's sad that the soundquality is a bit shabby in this vid.

  • @RetroRedJeans The other pieces are in the right key too. But they are performed in baroque instruments and they were tuned at A=415Hz, a semi-tone lower than today. It's not about key, but about tuning

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  • @RetroRedJeans Don't take offence, but I really do pity people who love Early Music and are gifted with perfect pitch!

  • gran compositor barroco

  • I thought the old english for oboe was tootle-flute

  • the last movement,,,, i heard it on the radio today..... but they say it was in g minor.......???? perhaps this movement sounds like another one.... help me out? =)

  • hayyyy q hermosooo!!! algunos de ustedes me puede faciliatr esas partes!!!! porrrfaaa!!!!!!!! si alguien es tan amable responda!!!!

  • Oboe concerto? But the Oboe was called a "hautbois" at the time of Telemann, was it not? There's me being a spoil sport again...

  • @GingerJoberton Hautbois is just french for oboe...

  • @peres010492 Okay. Nowadays it is, but its just a combination between "top/high" and "wood" (Haut and bois). That was me trying to be a pedant. I'd genuinely would like to know if Telemann called it a hautbois concerto when he wrote it. I see why it'd sound antagonising lmao, so I'm sorry. I SHALL INVESTIGATE!

  • @GingerJoberton

    Indeed, his autograph manuscripts have oboe parts labeled "Hautbois." I assume since he labeled the oboe part "Hautbois," he also called it thus.

  • @GingerJoberton

    Okay, so after a little more research, Telemann used a different name at one time to make himself sound more "Italian," dropping an 'n' and rearranging the letters in Telemann to spell "Melanite." In that manuscript of his Oboe Concerto in C Minor, he labels it "Oboë."

  • Pardon me. "Melante."

  • @kyblueeyes85 WOW. That contradicts history... Or perhaps it was a linguistic intermediary, him being one of the first people to use the phrase? Either that, or he composed this very late in his life. I trust your research, but this can only be confirmed if it was definitely Telemann who wrote the word "oboë", not a scribe/printing press. Let's remember that Telemann was a massive celebrity in his time & people from all over Europe would request copies.

    I otherwise thank you for your time!! :)

  • hautbois = français

    oboe = italiano

  • @belisariora Oboe = also English.

  • @GingerJoberton I don't know where you're from but Using French is better : in time of Telemann, poetic language was employment of French in noble France of the 18th century, even Bach was using it, communly !!

  • In the IMSLP it is given as TWV 51:d1

  • Great piece but the oboist has a tone that has far too much edge...

  • @platypusoboe: totally agree, it sometimes sounds like a circustrumpet or something..

  • @platypusoboe idk I kinda like it. Something different you know? To each his own I say xD.

  • It's awsome!

  • J'étais en train de chercher des morceaux de hautbois de l'aire baroque, et je suis tombé comme par hasard sur Telemann que je méconnaissais. Je trouve qu'il figure dans le même rang que Bach, Vivaldi et Haendel. Sa musique simplement géniale.

    Merci Peres de m'avoir fait découvrir ce compositeur allemand hors norme...

  • OMG!!! Thanks to whoever posted this!! This totally aweseom!!! :D YAY!!! Just somemore wonder music to listen to!!

    Thanks!!

  • Illic est proprius locus in Olympo pro.

  • les sugiero el bello concierto en la menor para flauta dulce y viola da gamba, en él Teleman refleja su genio musical!!!!

  • que maravilha!

  • The full TWV number is "TWV 51:d1"

    For an explanation on the TWV numbers (I know I would need one if I already didn't know this!) TWV stands for "Telemann Work Catalogue."

    The number after that is a designated number for the specific medium wherin it is composed. The TWV 51 pieces are concertos with strings and Basso Continuo.

    The number after that is the key the work is in.

    The number after that is the designated number. Since there is only one oboe concerto in d minor, it is d1...

  • Well, actually, there are two oboe concertos in d minor... The second however, is incomplete, and designated TWV 51:d2...

    I apologize for my mistake... :)

  • Correct it;s 51 - thank you for posting this - I heard this concerto for the first time on the radio yesterday - didn't know anything but that it was Talemann's concerto, so did a long research to find this exact piece. I think Talemann was ahead of his time in this concerto - a lot of elements and movements were later moved by other composers

  • Telemann is a principle! :-)

  • I believe the TWV number is 51

  • Thank you!!!

  • wunderbar

  • Telemann wrote such beautiful music for the Oboe.

  • trocamones sde gardíneas apolillantes

  • Ah, the master Telemann!

  • That's a really awesome concerto! Some chords in the 3rd movement sound to me pretty modern.

  • genial... faltou um audio visual barroco...

  • O my god how this Solo oboe touch deeply like Such as poisonous sword enter deep in the center of my heart and stay there and if you try it out will cause of my death and life would be if left with endlessly pain. that's what I call genius work indeed

  • First of all you can't be normal... I definitely don't need to know your feelings. ):-(

  • El oboe barroco es uno de los instrumentos con mas hermosa sonoridad.

  • Sí, qué pena que el que suena en el vídeo sea un oboe moderno, ¿eh?

  • Verie good music

  • Lovely music.+_+

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