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  • Disagree.

    The raptureis for the Church

  • How was it a jewish context? The entire list of events in the olivet discourse perfectly fits the prophecies of the Old testament, including the one's by Paul. So was Paul writing in a jewish context? That's just an excuse.

    The entire "rapture" passages in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 directly corresponds to Matthew 24:30! There is no pretrib rapture. Analyze the greek translation of the entire list of "pretrib" passages, and you will get a postrib rapture.

  • There is no rapture til AFTER the tribulation. WE MUST ENDURE!

  • @TheShepherd777 Please read: Romans 5:9; 1Thess 1:10, 1Thess 5:9; Rev. 3:10; Rev. 4:1-4; We are the Body/Bride of Christ. He removes us before His Judgments & Wrath are upon the whole, unbelieving, unrepentant world. Millions will believe during the Tribulation Period, after the Rapture.

  • @TheShepherd777 You still believe in a Post-Trib Rapture? If you do, can you please answer a few questions for me. In Rev. 6:9-11 The 5th Seal, mass murder is already happening. Those marytred "souls" are crying out for the revenge of their murders, but they "have to WAIT until the number of their fellow servants & brothers are killed". Again, we see these same murdered people in Revelation 7:9-14. Again, we see in Rev. 20:4-6 that these "murdered" people are "resurrected" NOT Raptured.

  • @TheShepherd777 So all those millions & millions of people missed the Rapture. The never "meet" Jesus "in the air." Then there's Revelation 11 where the 2 Witnesses (lampstands, remember those?) who are murdered for preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ. They lay DEAD in the streets of Jerusalem for 3 1/2 days. People hate them, but the breath of life comes into them & they are "resurrected", a voice says, "Come up Here", ASCEND bodily before their enemies. That's exactly like Rev. 4:1-5

  • @TheShepherd777 The questions I have for you: Why do you think the Church, Believers, Saints, Holy Ones, Bride of Christ are going to go through His Judgments & Wrath that are going to be poured out on the WHOLE, UNBELIEVEING, UNREPENTANT world? Why does it say in Revelation 17:14 that His "called, chosen & FAITHFUL followers" are going to return WITH Him? Why is the BRIDE in Heaven in Revelation 19:7-8 BEFORE His 2nd Coming? He's Coming FOR His Church BEFORE the 1st Seal is opened - Rev. 4:1-5

  • @TheShepherd777 The Post-Tribulation saints are NEVER Raptured. They are only Resurrected. They NEVER receive their Crown, because we lay them at Jesus' feet in Rev. 4:9-11 & Jesus is wearing "many crowns" when He returns, OUR Crowns; they NEVER witness the Coronation of Christ; they MISS the Wedding Supper of the Lamb. So to you, My Friend, I would be looking for Christ EVERYDAY, every minute, because He may catch "unaware". He promised He'd come to get us, and everyday brings us closer.

  • @JesusHoldMyHand1, I'm not mad at you. Jesus comes for his saints first AFTER the tribulation, and right BEFORE the Great Day of God's Wrath AKA: The Great Day of the Lord; The Day of Salavation; The Day of Darkness; The Day of Battle; That Great and Dreadful Day; The Day of the Lord's Judgement. The tribulation is NOT the Day of the Lord. The tribulation is a time of testing used to warn people of the ultimate wrath. God will protect his followers from his judgements during the tribulation.

  • @TheShepherd777 ..This knucklehead "JesusHoldMyHand", does not know what he is talking about, He uses the same stupid rhetoric on every video he posts a comment on. He disregards scriptural evidence, and asserts the most outragious notions, that have No basis in the Bible. Acts.3:20-21, means nothing to him, neither 2.Thess:1-3, Neither the fact that 1.Cor.15;54, ties in with the previous three verses, and declares the "abolishment of Death", at the time of the resurrection, which obviously ..

  • ...does not happen until after armageddon. I get the impression he belongs to the UPC cult,(Jesus only) that deny the biblical tri-unity of the Godhead. If you disagree with him for a few times, then the "insults" begin. So my advice to you is, ignore him, that is the best.

  • @sorens70601 "And when the Chief Shepherd APPEARS, you WILL receive a Crown of Glory that will never fade away." 1Peter 5:4

    The 24 elders have their Crowns. Revelation 4:1-5 When did the Lord APPEAR to them? I'll tell you when, at the Rapture. That's when we all get our Crowns. You should quit calling me names & saying I insult people. I have not insulted anyone. Since you WANT to go through the Great Tribulation, that's your choice. Christ is coming FOR His Church & maybe NOT you.

  • @JesusHoldMyHand1, That interpretation sounds purely fictionalized. Reminds me of Preterism and Amillenialism. Pre-tribulationism is a hoax. I hate it when believers in the pretrib rapture say that it's the most logical and literal interpretation. You know what? No offense, but that's just being rude while blowing hot air.

  • @Nashhinton What interpretation are you talking about? I have posted several times on this page & I don't know what you find so nauseating. PS Since you are going to go through the Great Tribulation, why are you so offended that Christ is coming for His Church, His Bride, His Holy Ones, His Saints 1st?? I don't understand why you're so upset. You can have fun down here.

  • @JesusHoldMyHand1, (continued)...I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just a serious person. I usually come across as a Napoleon or a George Washington. I apologize.

  • The rapture theory. It is a hot topic in the church today, but what does the bible really say? Ive done an in depth study on this subject, referencing the original languages of the bible. So grab your bible and come join me on my channel for a study of God's word.

  • sorry brother, but, dr. renald showers just explaind it all.

  • Amen

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