Malik Nidal Hasan ObayMao believer killed 13 and wounded 30 honorable innocent Americans at their home base in Ft Hood Texas. I heard he shouted God is Great as he opened fire. I also heard he was pissed off that Obama is moving to slow in his support of Islam. Another Islamic terrorist Obama voter, typical America hating Democrat. And now ObayMaos congress pushes this Fing death bill though with the cover of fire. Stand up America, do what you can to stop these extremists. Fight the Bill!!!
So Ocampo talks from his heart, and so does Raila. I think being that Kibaki likes talking from scribble-scribbled notebooks, which are made of paper, which is made of paper pulp, the same material that makes toilet rolls, i think it's fair to say that to a large extent, Kibaki talks out of his ass. His comments - or laments - are full of clues: -->"mavi" ya kuku"...bla bla bla; there's your clue. I just don't feel like talking politics today, can I have a day off from this crap?
The people against or skeptical about ICC are missing the point. Threat of ICC made Bashir scamper scared like a little girl, made Kony stop his wanton killing in Northern Uganda and has rendered Junta confused. From 1992-2007 Ruto has just killed unabated; ICC has finally put a stop to that. If violence is to continue it wont be organized and in grand scale.
scared? you don't scare desperate people. when problems exceed solutions violence is going to occur. i hope the presense of the guy is to help adress the core issues rather than putting a band aid. i hope the government is going to put the needed reforms to help out people. icc is just icc, you don;t solve social, economic and political problems by using icc
ruto seems to be the one people in here are salavating for. ok, we give you ruto, take him away. now, kikuyus and kalenjin are going to live in peace, yeeeeeeeeeeeee. i hate to dissapoint but the conflict in rift valey was there before ruto and will be there after ruto if the core issues are not address, nothing is going to change
and he made it worse with those hate speeches he made during the election campaign against as he called them watu wa kabila kubwa. If you doubt me go back to the NTV archives and listen to his speeches they were full of war like venom. No politician made more chilling and scareful speeches than Ruto
Why do we set up ourselves for disappointments? Ati Ocampo came all the way just to explain the process to R and K - what a waste of a trip. At least he would have named the thugs who sponsored the PEV. Nothing will come out of all these fanfare.
As for Ruto - well just take a look a at the biggest crook in Kenya's history, Moi - si ana ajienjoy? So, like Ruto or hate him, he will survive this 'cos that is our Kenya.
Mr Ocampo, the big beast Ruto is still unleashing his militias in Kureisoi even as you speak there. So ask Raila to hand him over to you and please do not believe a word those 2 tell you, they are never serious.
I don't understand why Raila needs to translate what Ocampo just said - wasn't it pretty clear to everyone? That said, what reforms? Almost two years down the line and the coalition has pretty much been treading water and sipping Pina Coladas....
did Raila bumrush Kibaki to the podium? LOL. It looked like it. He was probably like..."let me get to that podium before that jamaa (baks) gets to the podium and starts mumbling" Raila did say a very PC statement though. Too bad I don't believe him.
ocampo or no ocampo, kenya has to solve its own problems. don't expect much from the guy, he is going to go after few people, but the real problem lies on reforms. poverty, hopelessness, and unemployment will cripple any nation. i would rather have kenyans deal with its own issues rather than having somebody from outside. the fuilture for kenya to prosecute crimes proves to me that our judicial, legislative and executive branches of government are broken.
proves to you? Where have you been all this time? Wake up from your slumber dear brethren/sister...everything is broken in Kenya! We the ordinary mwananchi could use all the help we can get to glue the pieces together...even if from an outsider! Obama could even militarily drive this govt. out for all I care. If it will fix my country, then I'm down for it...this is one of those situations where I invoke the "the end justifies the means" wisdom!
It is now almost the same time two years ago that we witnessed the madness that brought us to a halt stop. My big question is,why do a certain tribe in Kenya feel as if they are the only ones who own Kenya[i am not trying to be tribal just pain in my heart.] Kudos to Mr Ocampo,please try and teach these hooligans a lesson that they shall never forget,and yes make kenya a lesson to the rest of the world.But for sure we never learn,wait till 2011 and you'll probably prove these my words right.
Well then ma friend,if this is the case why do we never learn?yesterday,today,tomorrow and the day after tomorrow,we shall
keep on voting for them.These greed,madness cal it anything it shall never till we realize the problem within us for we like getting things the easy way.
That is well put Mr Ocampo and Hon Odinga. People who thrive in killing others must be stopped. Uhuru Kenyatta and Jomo Kenyatta are truly birds of the same feathers.
Merc it is okay to be ignorant but it's not okay to be ignorant and not know it. YOU here sir/madam are the TRIBALIST!!! I don't read any tribalism in 72okoth's post and I am willing to bet that you understood it that way because his handle reads like a Luo name and he castigated two people who happen to be Kikuyu, which I'm guessing is what you are too. It is an open secret that Jomo killed during his reign...and everyone irrespective of tribal affiliation has a right to point it out!
Kasupuu: Easy does it! This 72Okoth is notorious here for making disparaging remarks against certain communities, he is a Hater. U2 r assuming Merc800 hails from a group by virtue of the comments he/she made.
You're right a 'name' isn't necessarily an indicator of one's origins.Pple here blogging under that cover...and they're worse than 250 Judases put together!
Siasabora I guess you have a right to label him/her a tribalist given you have been following the history of his/her postings on here. If that's the case, then I take back what I said. At the end of the day we are both on the same page and in agreement that tribalism is one piece of stinking carcass that keeps getting thrown at our faces by the bafoon politicians. And oh, one last point in my defence...I did not "assume" merc800 hails from any group, I "guessed"...please refer to the post...
doing a very good job? Siasa, it is all politics. didnt you see that a few months ago he promised under much fanfair some poor farmers in Ukambani free seeds and fertilizers yet nothing has been forth coming. If you watch a clip on citizen news you will see where a charitable organisation donated seeds. So Ruto has been playing it all for the cameras with promises he has not kept.
this is good news,ocambo your my hero dont give the ruggards a chance
oslojeremy 2 years ago
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Malik Nidal Hasan ObayMao believer killed 13 and wounded 30 honorable innocent Americans at their home base in Ft Hood Texas. I heard he shouted God is Great as he opened fire. I also heard he was pissed off that Obama is moving to slow in his support of Islam. Another Islamic terrorist Obama voter, typical America hating Democrat. And now ObayMaos congress pushes this Fing death bill though with the cover of fire. Stand up America, do what you can to stop these extremists. Fight the Bill!!!
growliberty 2 years ago
Kumekujwo!!!!Wapi uhuru?Wapi ruto???Kamata wao mara moja!!!!!
kushotto 2 years ago
The rule of law shall prevail for those who were displaced, maimed and massacred in the atrocties sponsored by the thugs masquareding as politicians.
Abirogoyi 2 years ago
So Ocampo talks from his heart, and so does Raila. I think being that Kibaki likes talking from scribble-scribbled notebooks, which are made of paper, which is made of paper pulp, the same material that makes toilet rolls, i think it's fair to say that to a large extent, Kibaki talks out of his ass. His comments - or laments - are full of clues: -->"mavi" ya kuku"...bla bla bla; there's your clue. I just don't feel like talking politics today, can I have a day off from this crap?
MzeeMoja1 2 years ago
The people against or skeptical about ICC are missing the point. Threat of ICC made Bashir scamper scared like a little girl, made Kony stop his wanton killing in Northern Uganda and has rendered Junta confused. From 1992-2007 Ruto has just killed unabated; ICC has finally put a stop to that. If violence is to continue it wont be organized and in grand scale.
Kenyansoul 2 years ago
scared? you don't scare desperate people. when problems exceed solutions violence is going to occur. i hope the presense of the guy is to help adress the core issues rather than putting a band aid. i hope the government is going to put the needed reforms to help out people. icc is just icc, you don;t solve social, economic and political problems by using icc
chaimoto 2 years ago
kenyans can only be fix by kenyans
chaimoto 2 years ago
ruto seems to be the one people in here are salavating for. ok, we give you ruto, take him away. now, kikuyus and kalenjin are going to live in peace, yeeeeeeeeeeeee. i hate to dissapoint but the conflict in rift valey was there before ruto and will be there after ruto if the core issues are not address, nothing is going to change
chaimoto 2 years ago
and he made it worse with those hate speeches he made during the election campaign against as he called them watu wa kabila kubwa. If you doubt me go back to the NTV archives and listen to his speeches they were full of war like venom. No politician made more chilling and scareful speeches than Ruto
karuitha 2 years ago
Why do we set up ourselves for disappointments? Ati Ocampo came all the way just to explain the process to R and K - what a waste of a trip. At least he would have named the thugs who sponsored the PEV. Nothing will come out of all these fanfare.
As for Ruto - well just take a look a at the biggest crook in Kenya's history, Moi - si ana ajienjoy? So, like Ruto or hate him, he will survive this 'cos that is our Kenya.
As Kibaki reminds us - mtado?
naidamu 2 years ago
Mr Ocampo, the big beast Ruto is still unleashing his militias in Kureisoi even as you speak there. So ask Raila to hand him over to you and please do not believe a word those 2 tell you, they are never serious.
karuitha 2 years ago
I don't understand why Raila needs to translate what Ocampo just said - wasn't it pretty clear to everyone? That said, what reforms? Almost two years down the line and the coalition has pretty much been treading water and sipping Pina Coladas....
surambaya 2 years ago
did Raila bumrush Kibaki to the podium? LOL. It looked like it. He was probably like..."let me get to that podium before that jamaa (baks) gets to the podium and starts mumbling" Raila did say a very PC statement though. Too bad I don't believe him.
malkiaj1 2 years ago
No Kibaki had spoken before Ocampo and I guess Raila didnt want to let end without him saying something
karuitha 2 years ago
U might be surprised that Rutto become innocent for those people who are barking ruttos name
handyedd 2 years ago
ocampo or no ocampo, kenya has to solve its own problems. don't expect much from the guy, he is going to go after few people, but the real problem lies on reforms. poverty, hopelessness, and unemployment will cripple any nation. i would rather have kenyans deal with its own issues rather than having somebody from outside. the fuilture for kenya to prosecute crimes proves to me that our judicial, legislative and executive branches of government are broken.
chaimoto 2 years ago
proves to you? Where have you been all this time? Wake up from your slumber dear brethren/sister...everything is broken in Kenya! We the ordinary mwananchi could use all the help we can get to glue the pieces together...even if from an outsider! Obama could even militarily drive this govt. out for all I care. If it will fix my country, then I'm down for it...this is one of those situations where I invoke the "the end justifies the means" wisdom!
Kasupuuu 2 years ago
very well said!
siasabora 2 years ago
Showdown at high noon looming.
NUNKIE75 2 years ago
It is now almost the same time two years ago that we witnessed the madness that brought us to a halt stop. My big question is,why do a certain tribe in Kenya feel as if they are the only ones who own Kenya[i am not trying to be tribal just pain in my heart.] Kudos to Mr Ocampo,please try and teach these hooligans a lesson that they shall never forget,and yes make kenya a lesson to the rest of the world.But for sure we never learn,wait till 2011 and you'll probably prove these my words right.
Dominic8697 2 years ago
Dominic!
There is nothing the matter with TRIBES in Kenya!
The hate, the violence, the fighting, the attitudes, greed, the madness ETC all of these are a creation by politicians!
siasabora 2 years ago
Sisabora!
Well then ma friend,if this is the case why do we never learn?yesterday,today,tomorrow and the day after tomorrow,we shall
keep on voting for them.These greed,madness cal it anything it shall never till we realize the problem within us for we like getting things the easy way.
manz9ke 2 years ago
What about those who committed Wagalla massacre?
emadkay1 2 years ago
Let justice prevail
benard2 2 years ago
Kenya moja!
freegastanker1 2 years ago
Why was he allowed to speak on the platform with the crown, is he the new head of state of Kenya? This is conceading too much as a nation.
Majicman123456 2 years ago
That is well put Mr Ocampo and Hon Odinga. People who thrive in killing others must be stopped. Uhuru Kenyatta and Jomo Kenyatta are truly birds of the same feathers.
72okoths 2 years ago
I cannot believe a bitch/bastard like u still think and see this in tribal eyes.
A fucking retard like u are the ones makin Kenyans primitive cooconed in tribal mentality. Fuck you and all other tribalists.
Merc800 2 years ago
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Kasupuuu 2 years ago
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Merc it is okay to be ignorant but it's not okay to be ignorant and not know it. YOU here sir/madam are the TRIBALIST!!! I don't read any tribalism in 72okoth's post and I am willing to bet that you understood it that way because his handle reads like a Luo name and he castigated two people who happen to be Kikuyu, which I'm guessing is what you are too. It is an open secret that Jomo killed during his reign...and everyone irrespective of tribal affiliation has a right to point it out!
Kasupuuu 2 years ago
Kasupuu: Easy does it! This 72Okoth is notorious here for making disparaging remarks against certain communities, he is a Hater. U2 r assuming Merc800 hails from a group by virtue of the comments he/she made.
You're right a 'name' isn't necessarily an indicator of one's origins.Pple here blogging under that cover...and they're worse than 250 Judases put together!
Lets Stop the Hate!
siasabora 2 years ago
Siasabora I guess you have a right to label him/her a tribalist given you have been following the history of his/her postings on here. If that's the case, then I take back what I said. At the end of the day we are both on the same page and in agreement that tribalism is one piece of stinking carcass that keeps getting thrown at our faces by the bafoon politicians. And oh, one last point in my defence...I did not "assume" merc800 hails from any group, I "guessed"...please refer to the post...
Kasupuuu 2 years ago
Kasupuu bravo for walking the talk!
Yu write from the heart!
siasabora 2 years ago
am happy he did not let the criminals (Kibaki,Uhuru,Ruto,Mutula,Kalooser) to speak...Kudos Ocampo...take them with you when you go to The Hague...
joseftaufera 2 years ago 2
This is a great day for Kenya. Welcome to homeland and clearout the bad guys!
freegastanker1 2 years ago
The sheriff is in Town!
siasabora 2 years ago
Lol. The sherriff in Town. William Ruto has dissappeared!
freegastanker1 2 years ago
He was doing a very good job in agriculture...that, however, is not good enough!
siasabora 2 years ago
@siasabora - William Ruto will have his christmas in the Hague. It's time to clean house!
freegastanker1 2 years ago
doing a very good job? Siasa, it is all politics. didnt you see that a few months ago he promised under much fanfair some poor farmers in Ukambani free seeds and fertilizers yet nothing has been forth coming. If you watch a clip on citizen news you will see where a charitable organisation donated seeds. So Ruto has been playing it all for the cameras with promises he has not kept.
karuitha 2 years ago