I'd like to hear it at ca. 120rpm. is that a Model B reproducer? It sounds good with it but wouldn't damage the record like a Model C. I once accidentslly played an ealry brown wax with a C and caught it one inch in. The wax was coming off like sawdust on a lathe!
@kirtley2010 Original brown wax cylinders are VERY fragile and so hard to find in good playing condition. And, sadly, yes they do deteriorate more quickly with play than later cylinders with more durable surfaces. Thanks!
@MusicBoxBoy ha okay that cleares that up for me... but they are bassicly just for show... i mean, it is kinda a waste to use them... i once saw a video of a guy on tv that was holding a one of a kind cylinder and broke it... it shatterd into a lot of pieces! so if i would own one.... should i use it for show? they are verry EXPENSIVE
I would love to own one of these things, but I can only imagine it would be super expensive for Phonograph it self. never mind how much it would cost to get the Cylinders. and I would not allow my self to play it more then once pour recording I get. cause I would not want to wear anything out any more then it all ready would be. but still would love to own one. how much did you pay for yours?
Thanks for your comments. The Edison Standard Phonograph models (lincluding the one in my video here) are, generally speaking, not that difficult to find and prices lately seem to range from only around three hundred dollars to five hundred dollars. As I recall when I purchased this particular one about twenty years ago it was still in that range. The early brown wax cylinders, however, including the one in this video are VERY hard to find, especially if they're in nice playing condition.
These very early brown wax cylinders were relatively soft and wore out much more quickly than the later 'black wax' cylinders. How many times could these be played with the correct reproducer (the device that actually produces the sound) with a good stylus would be difficult to guess. But certainly 50 or more plays even with a perfect reproducer would likely begin showing groove wear in these very early brown wax cylinders.
Thanks! The Edison Standard models were a great buy in their day. They played nicely and were ruggedly constructed. Over one hundred years later many still play as nicely as when new.
Never saw any Brown cylinders in this perfect condition - I have one Bettini cylinder, but in a terrible condition with mildew and so on. It sounds like Russell Hunting anyway. Thanks for posting!
Thanks for your gracious comments, transformingArt. I was impressed as well with the unusually nice condition of this and other early brown wax cylinders that were with it. I have not yet found a Bettini cylinder so you're fortunate to have found one in spite of its inferior condition. Hopefully, one day I will find one as well. Stop back again soon.
Thanks for your comments, RagtimeFreak86! I intentionally used a 2 minute model C reproducer for the video recognizing that I would not harm it for the one play. There was no resulting injury to the cylinder. I could have used one of my model B reproducers with the lighter floating weight but the sound produced by this particular model C is superb so I used it intentionally knowing I would not harm it. I normally use a model B for my early brown wax cylinders.
Sounds like Russell Hunting, and he had a certain way of introducing the recording. It was sort of his trademark that way of saying "New York and uh-Paris"
Thanks, 78rpmblog. Russell Hunting definitely did many of the early Columbia cylinder announcements as you mentioned and I agree with you that the auctioneer on this is likely Hunting as well. I know that Len Spencer did many if not all of the auctioneer parts on the later Edison wax cylinders such as "Auction Sale Of Household Goods" and "Auction Sale Of A Bird And Animal Store" so I thought maybe this could be him on this early Columbia. But I think we're right that it's Hunting on this.
I'd like to hear it at ca. 120rpm. is that a Model B reproducer? It sounds good with it but wouldn't damage the record like a Model C. I once accidentslly played an ealry brown wax with a C and caught it one inch in. The wax was coming off like sawdust on a lathe!
eclecticdufus 2 months ago
dont brown wax cylinders only last a certain amount of plays before they become unaudable
kirtley2010 6 months ago
@kirtley2010 Original brown wax cylinders are VERY fragile and so hard to find in good playing condition. And, sadly, yes they do deteriorate more quickly with play than later cylinders with more durable surfaces. Thanks!
MusicBoxBoy 5 months ago
so where it comes down to is that wax cilinders WILL get broken by using them and they are acctually only for show?
pongboy1100 9 months ago
@pongboy1100 Wax cylinders are very fragile - but with careful handling and the proper machine to play them they can still be played and enjoyed.
MusicBoxBoy 8 months ago
@MusicBoxBoy ha okay that cleares that up for me... but they are bassicly just for show... i mean, it is kinda a waste to use them... i once saw a video of a guy on tv that was holding a one of a kind cylinder and broke it... it shatterd into a lot of pieces! so if i would own one.... should i use it for show? they are verry EXPENSIVE
pongboy1100 8 months ago
I would love to own one of these things, but I can only imagine it would be super expensive for Phonograph it self. never mind how much it would cost to get the Cylinders. and I would not allow my self to play it more then once pour recording I get. cause I would not want to wear anything out any more then it all ready would be. but still would love to own one. how much did you pay for yours?
and your recording is of very good quality!
DylanMayhew 1 year ago
Thanks for your comments. The Edison Standard Phonograph models (lincluding the one in my video here) are, generally speaking, not that difficult to find and prices lately seem to range from only around three hundred dollars to five hundred dollars. As I recall when I purchased this particular one about twenty years ago it was still in that range. The early brown wax cylinders, however, including the one in this video are VERY hard to find, especially if they're in nice playing condition.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
@MusicBoxBoy how many times can these cylinders be played?
coldplays179 1 year ago
These very early brown wax cylinders were relatively soft and wore out much more quickly than the later 'black wax' cylinders. How many times could these be played with the correct reproducer (the device that actually produces the sound) with a good stylus would be difficult to guess. But certainly 50 or more plays even with a perfect reproducer would likely begin showing groove wear in these very early brown wax cylinders.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
Very nice Edison Standard Phonograph model A! I have a model A just like this one!
EnerG15 1 year ago
Thanks! The Edison Standard models were a great buy in their day. They played nicely and were ruggedly constructed. Over one hundred years later many still play as nicely as when new.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
Never saw any Brown cylinders in this perfect condition - I have one Bettini cylinder, but in a terrible condition with mildew and so on. It sounds like Russell Hunting anyway. Thanks for posting!
transformingArt 1 year ago
Thanks for your gracious comments, transformingArt. I was impressed as well with the unusually nice condition of this and other early brown wax cylinders that were with it. I have not yet found a Bettini cylinder so you're fortunate to have found one in spite of its inferior condition. Hopefully, one day I will find one as well. Stop back again soon.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
Enjoyed it. Thanks.
geriatricguru 1 year ago
Great! And thank you for stopping in for a visit.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
Good sound for '97! I'm fascinated by those early Columbia announcements.
EdisonSquirrel 1 year ago
Thanks Rocky!
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
Great sound for '97! I love those early Columbia announcements.
EdisonSquirrel 1 year ago
fantastic early cylinder!!! I hope that's not a model c reproducer your using to play it!
RagtimeFreak86 1 year ago
Thanks for your comments, RagtimeFreak86! I intentionally used a 2 minute model C reproducer for the video recognizing that I would not harm it for the one play. There was no resulting injury to the cylinder. I could have used one of my model B reproducers with the lighter floating weight but the sound produced by this particular model C is superb so I used it intentionally knowing I would not harm it. I normally use a model B for my early brown wax cylinders.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
Sounds like Russell Hunting, and he had a certain way of introducing the recording. It was sort of his trademark that way of saying "New York and uh-Paris"
78rpmblog 1 year ago
Thanks, 78rpmblog. Russell Hunting definitely did many of the early Columbia cylinder announcements as you mentioned and I agree with you that the auctioneer on this is likely Hunting as well. I know that Len Spencer did many if not all of the auctioneer parts on the later Edison wax cylinders such as "Auction Sale Of Household Goods" and "Auction Sale Of A Bird And Animal Store" so I thought maybe this could be him on this early Columbia. But I think we're right that it's Hunting on this.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago