sorry for the deleted comments...not good interntet i was writing something and didnt have them writen...Never mind um my personal opinion is that u did a great job and very good tactics...The problems are that: you wont wake up in the morning and go for a walk and aproximately see a sith lord waiting to kill you...Also the moves are too much repeating everyone has his one style...And the other hand without saber behind the back is a little gay :P... But nv mind awesome tactics!!! ;) keep going!
I've been training for a feew years now (about 6 years) and when I film my films I go for real time actual sword fighting and it looks a lot better then this shit I came here to find profeshonal tuts and I find you >:-0
yeh am sorry but it dont matter how many6 times that guy has watched the film you aint no able swordsman unless you been trained then realised your own style...i been doing kendo and akido for like 3 years and my stances still need work
this is so stupid, just go to a fencing class.this is not what it looks like in the movie. theres is a japanies type of sword mastery. not a fencing type
black ninja immortal is right. fencing is only for contact, but what if someone wants to chop off your head? you block, but hour saber is knocked out of your hand?
honestly, you need to train in martial arts so you know more stances.
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funking homos
star wars isnt real
it will never will be real
and if anything ever even gets close to it, its not going to be in your lifetime, so you star wars faggots who do this sort of shit and have fights and clone wars and talk about problems on different planets and such,
you need to stop wasting your life go get a real job and get laid
sorry to break this news to you kid, but barney the dinosaur aint real either, now I know at this moment in time you are shaking violently trying to hold in your tears of pain, but it's ok to cry now.
and before you try having a go at me let me point out, I am married, yes I can get laid unlike you and your only real friend pamela hand.
now go play with your dollies and leave the proper stuff to the grown ups
This is too much fencing, the 'railroad' stance puts you off balance and doesn't give you time to do the move, its also too rigid, and you 'railroad' stance is too wide, I'd just follow up after controlling your central line with a nice strong set-through uppercut from an offensive back stance.
One handed blocks aren't strong enough to repel a two handed strike, and by looking at your back wrist the way you hold it two handed, I'd just push in exploiting the curve in your arm and follow up
concern: when he actually shows how to block himself in second part of the "tutorial", he always evades with his upper body, shifting the centre of gravity towards his back. he cannot act at all in this position in a real fight and would easily be overrun by any attacker, or even pushed over by a hard hit. so ... nope ...
i am training historical german swordfencing following johannes liechtenauer, and as ventrue already said this may be deriving from real fencing, but i agree with him when i say this is far from correct. as ventrue says you need bent knees. this provides the duelist best balance in a swordfight. one leg in front, one slightly behind. you should pay attention that you form no straight line with both though, or else you are easily brought off balance. which brings me to my biggest
All of the moves shown here are derived from modern stage combat techniques, which come from Sabre fencing, which itself stems from 19th century cavalry sabre fighting.
The strike zones are way off though, the 1 & 2strike zones should be at the hips (not the ankles), and the 3 & 4, strikes should be at the shoulders (not the clouds). Also he's mixed up his 5 & 6 parries.
The terminology used for the footwork is incorrect as well, and you should always have bent knees when swordfighting.
none of this is canon... trust me, that and the way to choreo is totally different than actual sparring or fighting! Canon is what is seen in the visual dictionary and the bonus features. if it isn't liscensed by Lucasfilm, than it isn't "real"
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this video sux balls when ur dueling someone your not thinking about a pattern of how to block or how to swing ur trying to cut the other guys head off! dumb ass
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I dont get it, why do we persist in making star wars fighting a classic system? It looks stupid and unnecessary, except to anyone under the age of 13. I dunno, maybe I'm being overly critical of something that's not supposed to be real, but that instructor and his assistant both look unfit, slow, and relatively unbalanced for 'professionals'. I'd like to see how well this guy can actually fence, seeing as he makes so many references to it throughout the vid.
Nor does it step on the toes of industry instructors who teach classes as set forth by such organizations as The Academy of Theatrical Combat and The Society of American Fight Directors.
I feel it better to give people a taste and then point them in the right direction for live instruction.
Also to help point people in the right direction of industry instructors for those who want to get involved in obtaining parts in movies etc...
Learning is doing, yes. You can't "learn" a back tuck by simply watching it.
But--you can better understand key concepts when a video or tutorial is shown.
There aren't any toes to step on... information is information, and until someone can patent "how to move a staged combat prop", the students in classes are simply paying to be coached, taught more, get practice, corrected real-time.
Tutorials on this kind of thing are EVERYwhere. Some lousy, some great, some in between.
I hate to say it, but... some of this is good/correct technique and some is not. In the first 8 min., the only maneuvers that appear to be "realistic" (from viewer's perspective) are the last two--the attacks to head.
The rest would be ineffective in APPEARING dangerous, while they may be just fine for flashiness.
For the most part, this video is confusing/mixing some film combat techniques with staged techniques. As you all know, I'm not here to make trouble, I'm only trying to help. :)
The purpose is to Simply show people some starting basics and more importantly the proper zones and locations as outlined by Instruction from Swordplay Studios who complies with the ordinance set forth by such organizations as The Academy of Theatrical Combat and The Society of American Fight Directors.
These Credits can be found here at swordplaystudios online under/film/credits
Anyone who wants to get more involved and and get in-to character then I recommend classes from Swordplaystudios or you can start with one of their Instructional DVDs.
Or alternatively wait until our DVD comes out which will go more in depth and get into spacial awareness etc.
Great great work Yoda, Jen and Kit. Me and Yoda have talked about this for so long I'm glad it finally made it to video to properly teach people what choreographed swordfighting is about.
But this seems to be taken from erupean fencing. The techniques used in star wars comes from Japanese kendo mostly. Nice tutorial anyway.
MasterNinja1990 1 day ago
actually pretty informative and good stage terms.
theclash24 8 months ago
Are there any places/ people that teach this in QLD, Australia?
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drakeconstant 2 years ago
sorry for the deleted comments...not good interntet i was writing something and didnt have them writen...Never mind um my personal opinion is that u did a great job and very good tactics...The problems are that: you wont wake up in the morning and go for a walk and aproximately see a sith lord waiting to kill you...Also the moves are too much repeating everyone has his one style...And the other hand without saber behind the back is a little gay :P... But nv mind awesome tactics!!! ;) keep going!
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HaRis4wiN 2 years ago
Yoda with sunglasses
alexericw 2 years ago
Funny, but the girl in this video is not only affraid of getting hit, but she really needs a stronger arm.. the lightsaber is too heavy it seems.
avatar6699 2 years ago
so you are yoda ^^
Snorkelsson 2 years ago
basic 5-step...its funner when u do it fast..
mowmow022 2 years ago
Excellent! Good solid tips for stage dueling at Cons and at home. 5/5
BlackGatchaman 2 years ago 3
people need to work on their own stradigies or there opponent will always know the next move and that would suck!!!!!
Maxamillions2009 3 years ago
yes but this guy did awesome job!
HaRis4wiN 2 years ago
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WHAT THE FUCK! THIS IS LAME AS SHIT!
scsarulz 3 years ago
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nigga get a fukckin microphone.
THEJEDEYEMASTER 3 years ago
I've been training for a feew years now (about 6 years) and when I film my films I go for real time actual sword fighting and it looks a lot better then this shit I came here to find profeshonal tuts and I find you >:-0
welshguitarhero 3 years ago 2
but you don't have any videos uploaded... upload some for proof ;)
and if it looks good, then it's worth watching too ;D
jimmiedavis 3 years ago
yeh am sorry but it dont matter how many6 times that guy has watched the film you aint no able swordsman unless you been trained then realised your own style...i been doing kendo and akido for like 3 years and my stances still need work
universalf00l 3 years ago
this is so stupid, just go to a fencing class.this is not what it looks like in the movie. theres is a japanies type of sword mastery. not a fencing type
Xelement18 3 years ago
fuck you u asshole knowone really care's what you say!!!!
oblivionfan150 3 years ago 3
peeple dont say bad things hes cool and hes right so if you want say something say good stuff or say nothen
orkeyadam 3 years ago
black ninja immortal is right. fencing is only for contact, but what if someone wants to chop off your head? you block, but hour saber is knocked out of your hand?
honestly, you need to train in martial arts so you know more stances.
chokleitluver 3 years ago
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funking homos
star wars isnt real
it will never will be real
and if anything ever even gets close to it, its not going to be in your lifetime, so you star wars faggots who do this sort of shit and have fights and clone wars and talk about problems on different planets and such,
you need to stop wasting your life go get a real job and get laid
Winbotion 3 years ago
sorry to break this news to you kid, but barney the dinosaur aint real either, now I know at this moment in time you are shaking violently trying to hold in your tears of pain, but it's ok to cry now.
and before you try having a go at me let me point out, I am married, yes I can get laid unlike you and your only real friend pamela hand.
now go play with your dollies and leave the proper stuff to the grown ups
mcich 3 years ago 3
btw the comment was directed at Winbotion, I get sick to death of lil shits like that
mcich 3 years ago
maybe you need to get a life buddy if you were a "real man" you would not be making fun of this talent.
Jacksonguitars4evr 3 years ago
This is too much fencing, the 'railroad' stance puts you off balance and doesn't give you time to do the move, its also too rigid, and you 'railroad' stance is too wide, I'd just follow up after controlling your central line with a nice strong set-through uppercut from an offensive back stance.
One handed blocks aren't strong enough to repel a two handed strike, and by looking at your back wrist the way you hold it two handed, I'd just push in exploiting the curve in your arm and follow up
Blackninjaimmortal 3 years ago
Hey man, This really helped me with the footwork.
I know how to fight with the blade, but the footwork was harder, so thanks :)
thereisallwayshope 3 years ago
it would cooler faster I think??
CptReed 3 years ago
concern: when he actually shows how to block himself in second part of the "tutorial", he always evades with his upper body, shifting the centre of gravity towards his back. he cannot act at all in this position in a real fight and would easily be overrun by any attacker, or even pushed over by a hard hit. so ... nope ...
Asyr 3 years ago
well ... no.
i am training historical german swordfencing following johannes liechtenauer, and as ventrue already said this may be deriving from real fencing, but i agree with him when i say this is far from correct. as ventrue says you need bent knees. this provides the duelist best balance in a swordfight. one leg in front, one slightly behind. you should pay attention that you form no straight line with both though, or else you are easily brought off balance. which brings me to my biggest
Asyr 3 years ago
All of the moves shown here are derived from modern stage combat techniques, which come from Sabre fencing, which itself stems from 19th century cavalry sabre fighting.
The strike zones are way off though, the 1 & 2strike zones should be at the hips (not the ankles), and the 3 & 4, strikes should be at the shoulders (not the clouds). Also he's mixed up his 5 & 6 parries.
The terminology used for the footwork is incorrect as well, and you should always have bent knees when swordfighting.
Ventrue1830 3 years ago 2
none of this is canon... trust me, that and the way to choreo is totally different than actual sparring or fighting! Canon is what is seen in the visual dictionary and the bonus features. if it isn't liscensed by Lucasfilm, than it isn't "real"
MurPaDiLos 4 years ago
I really liked this video, I'll try practising the foot work and have me and my friends learn the different attack/defence zones.
Thanks a lot Yoda.
Ryan13489 4 years ago
wow that sucks balls
SmashinMachine 4 years ago
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this video sux balls when ur dueling someone your not thinking about a pattern of how to block or how to swing ur trying to cut the other guys head off! dumb ass
dcschaef836 4 years ago
Hey lameass, this is an instructional video on CHOREOGRAPHING a duel, not on how to actually fight one. -_o
kalilamae 4 years ago 2
Is any of this canon? Or just rules made up from watchin a lot of star wars movies?
Ill have to try some of this, but speed it up to look real.
StormWoIf 4 years ago
It's not canon, it has nothing to do with the movies...
kalilamae 4 years ago
the guy look gay
FreakingVermillion 4 years ago
I agree, he does not look like a martial artist, definitely more of a fencing flair, but that's ok, he made it his own. Congrats man!!
PRPWR 4 years ago
hmmmmm i just imagined it as learning a form and smacking the other person with it
SS3FutureTrunks 4 years ago
Opinions are like keyboards... seems everyone has one. ;)
greytale 4 years ago 6
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I dont get it, why do we persist in making star wars fighting a classic system? It looks stupid and unnecessary, except to anyone under the age of 13. I dunno, maybe I'm being overly critical of something that's not supposed to be real, but that instructor and his assistant both look unfit, slow, and relatively unbalanced for 'professionals'. I'd like to see how well this guy can actually fence, seeing as he makes so many references to it throughout the vid.
ironmanalasdair 4 years ago
As Alex from Ultrasabers once posted on TF.N--information wants to be free, yo. heheheh... :)
I don't think any information is "proprietary". I'll post some videos on some VERY easy to learn staged combat soon enough.
I still appreciate your work. I don't want you to take offense--we're all here to learn and better ourselves... wait, on Youtube??? heheheh ;) JK
greytale 4 years ago
No offense at all, I like your work as well.
I'm sure you'd agree some information is truly better delivered by live instruction.
Again my purpose with this is for beginners and is meant to be easy to follow.
fxsabers 4 years ago
Nor does it step on the toes of industry instructors who teach classes as set forth by such organizations as The Academy of Theatrical Combat and The Society of American Fight Directors.
I feel it better to give people a taste and then point them in the right direction for live instruction.
Also to help point people in the right direction of industry instructors for those who want to get involved in obtaining parts in movies etc...
fxsabers 4 years ago
Learning is doing, yes. You can't "learn" a back tuck by simply watching it.
But--you can better understand key concepts when a video or tutorial is shown.
There aren't any toes to step on... information is information, and until someone can patent "how to move a staged combat prop", the students in classes are simply paying to be coached, taught more, get practice, corrected real-time.
Tutorials on this kind of thing are EVERYwhere. Some lousy, some great, some in between.
greytale 4 years ago 3
I hate to say it, but... some of this is good/correct technique and some is not. In the first 8 min., the only maneuvers that appear to be "realistic" (from viewer's perspective) are the last two--the attacks to head.
The rest would be ineffective in APPEARING dangerous, while they may be just fine for flashiness.
For the most part, this video is confusing/mixing some film combat techniques with staged techniques. As you all know, I'm not here to make trouble, I'm only trying to help. :)
greytale 4 years ago
My purpose was not to make it look like a real fight but to make the movements
easy to see and understand for outlining placement for those who are new to sword fighting.
Obviously a whole class covering all aspects can't be crammed in to 10 minutes.
Nor would that be appropriate for YouTube as some of it is proprietary information.
fxsabers 4 years ago
The purpose is to Simply show people some starting basics and more importantly the proper zones and locations as outlined by Instruction from Swordplay Studios who complies with the ordinance set forth by such organizations as The Academy of Theatrical Combat and The Society of American Fight Directors.
These Credits can be found here at swordplaystudios online under/film/credits
fxsabers 4 years ago
Anyone who wants to get more involved and and get in-to character then I recommend classes from Swordplaystudios or you can start with one of their Instructional DVDs.
Or alternatively wait until our DVD comes out which will go more in depth and get into spacial awareness etc.
fxsabers 4 years ago
Great great work Yoda, Jen and Kit. Me and Yoda have talked about this for so long I'm glad it finally made it to video to properly teach people what choreographed swordfighting is about.
banditcar 4 years ago
it also looks like he is in a backwards stance when your in the fenceing pose.
coolpersonus19 4 years ago
A long time coming for this one! Master Yoda, Great job!
DarthMorbius1977 4 years ago
Good thing Master Yoda did this. It'll definatley come in handy.
ramznation 4 years ago