Unfortunately, I was expelled from the Baltimore Operatic Academy for continuously cutting "Vibrato 101" and pretty much gave up on improving my, um, "instrument" as I battled the resultant depression.
Is this song the basis for the "Dream of the Future" song in the last scene of Raising Arizona? I can't tell if they're completely different songs or the same song with different arrangements.
I stand corrected; will have to check out the movie again. It`s been a few years. Don`t know why I didn`t spot it before but, then again, maybe I did and forgot. I am very old.....
This is pretty common in murder ballads, and it's one of the most intriguing and peculiar aspects to them. And you are right -- they are truly amazing
@lonewoodwose To clarify in the original version he didn't poison her with the wine, merely drugged her so that she wouldn't struggle. The act of killing was done with the sabre. Throwing her in the river was to get rid of the body.
Thanks. ( I haven`t been able to respond to comments for some time; just figured out I had "blocked" myself. People over seventy should be kept away from computers....)
Thanks Amelia! I`ve posted just about my entire repertoire (a couple two or three times by mistake....) but every now and then something still pops into my head.
Sir, it has nothing to do with age it happens to all of us from time to time and I thank you for putting these videos up for the public. Much appreciated. :)
ive heard about 10 versions of this song, but I prefer your version to all of the studio recordings and covers... it seems to have more soul than all of them
listening to the lyrics puts a smile on my face (not because i find the topic enjoyable) because i can't help but think of all those arguments people raise about violence in rap lyrics or rock lyrics. as if it were a new development, or an indication of the downward spiral of society.
@jonbeme Here's the difference........at the end of this song the consequences is the evil deed is punished by hanging and going to hell. In the older songs the violence is ALWAYS punished, so it remains a cautionary tale......versus the 'laugh and kill' attitude of much modern violent lyrics. This song can hardly be seen as a glorification of violent acts when the violent offenders reward is the gallows and hell.
I've often wondered why he killed the girl. Can you shed some light on the subject? I love the banjo, by the way. Very different style than the Scruggs style I'm used to playing.
Very cool vid. You should pick up Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds' Murder Ballads album: you might get a kick out of it. They also have a cover of the Willow Garden on their B-sides compilation album.
Not sure precisely but probably about 1965 or `66. Mike Seeger had convinced him to start playing again. He told me about Dock who, I think, might even have been at a big "pickin` party" my then wife and I threw for a whole bunch of musicians, including Mike, whom I`d met back in the 50s, and a bunch of our friends.
Well, I`m an old coot who`s been around on the periphery for a long time; hard not to have run into a bunch. A couple of friends and I put on a concert starring Pete Seeger back in 1960(?). It caused all sorts of commotion due to his highly exaggerated communist history. I played music a couple of times with "Pop" Stoneman and his family (lusted after Donna like every other male who ever knew her) and played Don Reno`s banjo once for a few minutes ditto with Ralph Stanley`s. Reflected glory
That's SO cool! It sucks that Ill never be able to tell stories like that. Im not interested in my generations music, therefore I never met any of them, and don't care too. All my heros are dead...most anyways. And the ones alive still I wont ever meet. Never mind play music with...
I used to sing ,"Down by the Greenwood Sideo," to my children ! ..." There was a lady lived in York..." along with many other Child Ballads They all grew up as non- murderers!- and very musical on all instruments. Is "Down in the Willow Garden" ls from The British Isles. new group OCMS
I haven't googled it yet.
Do you know "Bury me beneath the Willow
?"
A new group I discovered on you tube, Is "The Old Crow Medicine Show." Very interestingly sounds, what energy.
"Bury Me Beneath the Willow" is one I uploaded awhile back. Most of the "Appalachian murder ballads" probably originated in the British Isle and got altered once they got here.
I love it. I rarely hear this kind of banjo playing, it's so different from mainstream bluegrass, so removed from this era. It has that genuine feeling of antiquity that a lot of contemporary stuff wholly lacks.
While my kids and grandchildren take it for granted, the technology that allows the worldwide musical community never ceases to amaze me.
Your smallpipes have inspired me to have another go at mine. If only I could figure out how to work the bellows without looking like, according to my wife; "A chimpanzee with a flea infestation." At least I`ve got a blowpipe...
Pete,I love the idea of 'folk' musicians sharing their songs and music around the world. It creates a real sense of a musical community, something this troubled planet really needs. Great stuff. Keep it up.
I love the banjo on this old ballad. I appreciate your voice sir, although it's a bit off tune...:)
yutuber1001 1 month ago
@yutuber1001
Unfortunately, I was expelled from the Baltimore Operatic Academy for continuously cutting "Vibrato 101" and pretty much gave up on improving my, um, "instrument" as I battled the resultant depression.
Wishuey 1 month ago
I absolutely love your version of this song, and was wondering where you got the tabs for it if any?
sdmf435 7 months ago
@sdmf435 Thanks!
I`m afraid tablature is too complicated for me. I`ve never used it.
Wishuey 7 months ago
i keep coming back to this video, one of my favorite songs I have heard made, I only wish I could get an MP3 of this
SalAzad 2 years ago
Many thanks!
Wishuey 2 years ago
that was nice, thanks.
mrdylanman666 2 years ago
Thanks
Thanks to you too
Wishuey 2 years ago
foi lah na beira do pantanal!
Silvaboapinta 2 years ago
I`m afraid your Portuguese has me at a disadvantage. Translation?
Wishuey 2 years ago
Is this song the basis for the "Dream of the Future" song in the last scene of Raising Arizona? I can't tell if they're completely different songs or the same song with different arrangements.
cydcharisse6 2 years ago
Not that I can determine; can`t see any connection.
Wishuey 2 years ago
the female lead character does sing a few bars of this song though while rocking the baby to sleep
jtallen12345 2 years ago
yes it is, absolutely. she even sings this song to the baby in the movie. the composer used this song as a basis. u r spot on!
vivacuba7 2 years ago
oh, someone's already said what i said lol
jtallen12345 2 years ago
I stand corrected; will have to check out the movie again. It`s been a few years. Don`t know why I didn`t spot it before but, then again, maybe I did and forgot. I am very old.....
Wishuey 2 years ago
Terrific! I wish I could play like that.
lurkersteve 2 years ago
Thanks!
Wishuey 2 years ago
"Not content with poisoning poor Rose, he runs her through with a saber then, just to make certain, throws her in the river"
Haha, I was humming this song in the shower this morning and I realized that...why would he bother killing her three times.
Murder ballads are amazing.
lonewoodwose 2 years ago
He was, clearly, not a nice person......
Wishuey 2 years ago
This is pretty common in murder ballads, and it's one of the most intriguing and peculiar aspects to them. And you are right -- they are truly amazing
edichka83 2 years ago
@lonewoodwose To clarify in the original version he didn't poison her with the wine, merely drugged her so that she wouldn't struggle. The act of killing was done with the sabre. Throwing her in the river was to get rid of the body.
sgtmac46 1 year ago
did holly hunter ever record her version? just can't find it.
koleekonkong 2 years ago
Beats me; didn`t know she did one.
Wishuey 2 years ago
I wish I could play like that.
SirCoughsalot 3 years ago
Well done. I agree with some of the others that your singing is great as well as the banjo playing.
salzuk08 3 years ago
Thanks. ( I haven`t been able to respond to comments for some time; just figured out I had "blocked" myself. People over seventy should be kept away from computers....)
Wishuey 3 years ago
omg! I love ur music and just u in generall!
you are hillarious!
keep it up cause youre amazing!
GremlinMayer 2 years ago
Thanks Amelia! I`ve posted just about my entire repertoire (a couple two or three times by mistake....) but every now and then something still pops into my head.
Wishuey 2 years ago
Sir, it has nothing to do with age it happens to all of us from time to time and I thank you for putting these videos up for the public. Much appreciated. :)
laughs422 2 years ago
Many thanks!
Wishuey 2 years ago
ive heard about 10 versions of this song, but I prefer your version to all of the studio recordings and covers... it seems to have more soul than all of them
SalAzad 3 years ago
Many thanks!
Wishuey 3 years ago
now that does sound fine.
listening to the lyrics puts a smile on my face (not because i find the topic enjoyable) because i can't help but think of all those arguments people raise about violence in rap lyrics or rock lyrics. as if it were a new development, or an indication of the downward spiral of society.
jonbeme 3 years ago 4
Excellent point and one that had not occurred to me.
Wishuey 3 years ago
@jonbeme Here's the difference........at the end of this song the consequences is the evil deed is punished by hanging and going to hell. In the older songs the violence is ALWAYS punished, so it remains a cautionary tale......versus the 'laugh and kill' attitude of much modern violent lyrics. This song can hardly be seen as a glorification of violent acts when the violent offenders reward is the gallows and hell.
sgtmac46 1 year ago
why is every old bluegrass song about murder D:
unaHeroina 3 years ago
Good question, but the old "murder ballads" aren`t bluegrass. Some go back as far as Elizabethan England; didn`t even originate here.
Wishuey 3 years ago
I've often wondered why he killed the girl. Can you shed some light on the subject? I love the banjo, by the way. Very different style than the Scruggs style I'm used to playing.
bluegrassman87 3 years ago
The words would indicate he thought he`d end up with her money but who knows?
Wishuey 3 years ago
Very cool vid. You should pick up Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds' Murder Ballads album: you might get a kick out of it. They also have a cover of the Willow Garden on their B-sides compilation album.
variatingmule 3 years ago
absolutely beautiful.
always loved this song.....
citizentrenostrash 3 years ago
Me too. Thanks for the kind words.
Wishuey 3 years ago
I love this!
sunn231 3 years ago
Thanks!
Wishuey 3 years ago
best version i found here, thanks for sharing
ruslandon 3 years ago
Many thanks!
Wishuey 3 years ago
thank you for this song!!!
dimy3j 3 years ago
My pleasure. Thanks for the kind words.
Wishuey 3 years ago
You should all listen to Pretty Polly by Dock Boggs.
kurtcobain2902 4 years ago
I was lucky enough to see him perform it in person years ago.
Wishuey 4 years ago
Wow that's pretty awesome, man. What year? 60?
kurtcobain2902 4 years ago
Not sure precisely but probably about 1965 or `66. Mike Seeger had convinced him to start playing again. He told me about Dock who, I think, might even have been at a big "pickin` party" my then wife and I threw for a whole bunch of musicians, including Mike, whom I`d met back in the 50s, and a bunch of our friends.
Wishuey 4 years ago
That's a pretty righteous story, man. Did you happen to meet any other musicians? Id love to hear some stories...
kurtcobain2902 4 years ago
Well, I`m an old coot who`s been around on the periphery for a long time; hard not to have run into a bunch. A couple of friends and I put on a concert starring Pete Seeger back in 1960(?). It caused all sorts of commotion due to his highly exaggerated communist history. I played music a couple of times with "Pop" Stoneman and his family (lusted after Donna like every other male who ever knew her) and played Don Reno`s banjo once for a few minutes ditto with Ralph Stanley`s. Reflected glory
Wishuey 4 years ago
That's SO cool! It sucks that Ill never be able to tell stories like that. Im not interested in my generations music, therefore I never met any of them, and don't care too. All my heros are dead...most anyways. And the ones alive still I wont ever meet. Never mind play music with...
kurtcobain2902 4 years ago
I used to sing ,"Down by the Greenwood Sideo," to my children ! ..." There was a lady lived in York..." along with many other Child Ballads They all grew up as non- murderers!- and very musical on all instruments. Is "Down in the Willow Garden" ls from The British Isles. new group OCMS
I haven't googled it yet.
Do you know "Bury me beneath the Willow
?"
A new group I discovered on you tube, Is "The Old Crow Medicine Show." Very interestingly sounds, what energy.
Keep up the great work !!
freshgreens2006 4 years ago
"Bury Me Beneath the Willow" is one I uploaded awhile back. Most of the "Appalachian murder ballads" probably originated in the British Isle and got altered once they got here.
Wishuey 4 years ago
Very, very haunting. I love those old timey murder ballads.Hmmm, what does that say about me?
freshgreens2006 4 years ago
Thanks! The oldtimers do seem to have been overly interested in that stuff but some good songs resulted.
Wishuey 4 years ago
This is a lovely version of this ancient song. Your voice has history in it.
StikPivot 4 years ago
Thats how I learned about it. I wrote a comment about it in the Everly Brothers version
kurtcobain2902 4 years ago
Great song. And a great rootsy nononsense performance.
Gaarak 4 years ago
LOVE IT
sunn231 4 years ago
Is Raising Arizona the film about Nicholas Cage kidnapping a kid or something? Like a comedy?
rosswoof 4 years ago
Hi!
I'm an italian girl and i love the american old-time and mountain music...
i think that your version of this beautiful song is great!
thanks for this gift!
Martina
OldTimeSoul 4 years ago
Hi Martina,
Many thanks, and thanks for subscribing. Don`t forget to have a listen to "Banjer". He`s amazing.
Pete
Wishuey 4 years ago
this is one of my all time fave songs... nice job!
ArriDawn 4 years ago
Many thanks!
Wishuey 4 years ago
I love it. I rarely hear this kind of banjo playing, it's so different from mainstream bluegrass, so removed from this era. It has that genuine feeling of antiquity that a lot of contemporary stuff wholly lacks.
yerk3 4 years ago
Thanks for the kind words. (Fact is I`ve never been able to master a lot of the "newer" stuff....)
Wishuey 4 years ago
Great old tune, you heard Nick Caves version? its a bit darker
rosswoof 4 years ago
I hadn`t but just checked it out. I didn`t think that song could get much darker but I see what you mean....
Wishuey 4 years ago
Great job on this, Pete...
espiel 4 years ago
If the murderer of this tune was rich he probably would have gotten away with it, then the tune would be called
"Down in the willow garden..if I did it"
Nice job on the tune
bilbo60 5 years ago
Another oldie but goodie. Thanks!
2ndgeneration 5 years ago
Thanks Dick,
While my kids and grandchildren take it for granted, the technology that allows the worldwide musical community never ceases to amaze me.
Your smallpipes have inspired me to have another go at mine. If only I could figure out how to work the bellows without looking like, according to my wife; "A chimpanzee with a flea infestation." At least I`ve got a blowpipe...
Wishuey 5 years ago
Pete,I love the idea of 'folk' musicians sharing their songs and music around the world. It creates a real sense of a musical community, something this troubled planet really needs. Great stuff. Keep it up.
achnamara 5 years ago
Hi Dick,
I think I put my reply to you in my own "comments" by mistake...
Wishuey 5 years ago