My announcement to run for president.

[AtheistToSeekToKnow]

the U. S. A. ranks 37 in health care and spends over

7000$ per person with 49,000,000 of our fellow citizens which do not have any Health care. Cuba ranks 39 in health care cover avery one of thier citizen and spends about 250$ per person, with longer life spanned and less infant mortality and inspite a trade embargo.

I want health care for all U. S. citizen. and the only way we can do that is to get rid of the insurance companys. good luck

[axelsenzon]

those 'micahel moore statistics' aren't real, so dont pass them off as such

*long live thor*

[AtheistToSeekToKnow]

If they are not real then they are darn close to being real. Sence about 1980s about half of U. S. workers do not have health insurance, and from 1968 to 1988 I was one of them. So do not give me that bull that moore's numbers are way way off. Good luck.

[cubencis]

considering most non-skill (not doctors, lawyers, etc.) workers offer health insurance because by law they have to, and you usually get very respectable costs for your whole family, and US doctors never turn away anyone who seeks treatment (a specialist might, you'd have to go to county dr) what does that say about the ppl who complain they want more?

it comes down to this for me. 'a gov that can give you everything can take everything away.'- voltair.

[cubencis]

(cont) 'a gov that can give you everything can take everything away.'- voltair.

so ppl who f up to the irs dont get health treatment? what about illegals? they're part of those statistics. should the common man pay for ppl who dont pay taxes or even if they do felt they were above the law, & entered illegally. what about unions- do u take their power away? -union insur is a strong reason to join. no, but f*ck them is what u say.

[AtheistToSeekToKnow]

Employer only have to have workers comp. Which only cover the worker and it has to be job related, any other inserance is optional. Most of the employer that I have worked for do not offer insurance. And an employer might not have good inserance. So do not give me that bull. Good luck

[AtheistToSeekToKnow]

Thier is no law that says that a doctor has to have you for a patient and that gose for hospitals too. And they have bills to pay too. So if you can not pay to bad. They got ot make a living too. Good luck.

[cubencis]

again, i dont like when ppl point out shorthand as misspelling but grammatically and actually ur english is terribly broken.

i'll try and answer u though. a county hospital cannot turn away anyone-ever, if the person is in the bottom 2 sects of the income bracket he/she will get free medicaid. if they are above, low-mid class, they can work out an affordable pay plan or get partial to full coverage through free medicaid.

if they can afford the bill, they will have to pay it in full.

[cubencis]

see an other requirement should be that when immigrate to this country they learn the language (like the immigrants of the past did)

i think ur speaking english, but you aint speaking my language.

do u want to try again?

[AtheistToSeekToKnow]

Martain lurther king county hospital in Losangles woman can in coughing up blood callaps on the floor and dies hours latter they would not help her. People come into some county hospitals and have to waght 18 hours or longer longer be for the are seen. Another woman walks into a county hospital in florada ask for help and dies in the waighting room.

[AtheistToSeekToKnow]

County hospitals do the best they can with the resources that they have. It is not their fult that they are over run with people that need thier help. So do not give me that bull that the county hospitals are the answer. good luck

[hennyxlb]

what a joke she probally bullyed into this and even if we elecected her as president she wouldnt make any of the decisions it wud be her parents

[axelsenzon]

i don't like this propaganda being placed on utube- it's worse than the minions that are posting because no one wants to say no to this representation of an idea. it a child. the thing is though, 1. we are (or close to) a social welfare state and are trying to get out of this 2.the idea is capitalistic 3. de-promotes advancement in medicine and ppl becoming doctrs. 4. if you are <18 it is up 2 ur parents to get u insurance not me and our tax dollars- that is not the role of gov.

[axelsenzon]

also, health insurance is extremely cheap for any1 below 13; true they get sick more often but it is generally not as serious as when an elderly gets sick. note: #2 above; the idea is UN-capitalistic. THIS IS NOT THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.

Any county hospital will always treat any person who shows up (including illegals), and the truth is if you feel it is serious call an ambulance instead of just showing up for quicker care.

[crazycatfguy]

I spent 11 years in the healthcare industry and you are wrong. This "propaganda" as you call it calls attention to problems that the mainstream candidates avoid. What is wrong with bringing up real issues before an election?

[axelsenzon]

propaganda is propaganda whether you mix truth with fiction or only one of such...just ask goebbles

[tyeporter]

America is not a socialist Country, we don't provide from cradle to grave.

If we'd stop expecting the Gov't to provide health insurance and start allowing Americans to provide and pay for their own health care, parents could afford to provide for their own families.

[crazycatfguy]

Pure capitalism brought us the great depression. What is wrong with a hybrid system? If you expect millions of Americans to work for less than living wages to remain competitive with other countries don't you think we should at least have a safty net for them?

[tyeporter]

How about we stop taxing them so heavily (in order to pay for all of these welfare programs) in the first place and allow them to spend their own money?

Who do you feel can more wisely spend your own money: you or the gov't?

When you're taxed less, your employer is taxed less.

Your employer will have more with which to pay you and you'll have more money to spend and as a result, make a "living wage".

[crazycatfguy]

Vote for Ron Paul and we might find out. Just out of curiosity where would you get the money to refund all of the ss taxes that people paid into the system and now would have no benefits.

[tyeporter]

Refunds?

Ron Paul?

I used to think he represented Americans but he's got a few liberal left whacko ideas that are clearly not representative of a conservative.

[crazycatfguy]

People have been paying into the system for decades expecting SS benefits. You just going to keep their money and deny benefits? Ron Paul is a strict constitutionalist were the founding fathers liberal whacko's?

[tyeporter]

He may be a strict constitutionalist but some of the ideas in his head are liberal.

If you're under the impression that the money you and I have paid into SS is still there, I've a wake up call for you.

Bill Clinton raped the SS funds, nearly depleting it at the time and since the liberals have been murding Americans by the tens of millions (abortion), we're upside down: taking out more than we're paying into SS.

[crazycatfguy]

Actually it was LBJ that signed an executive order that moved the money into the general fund where anything not in the budget was up for discretionary spending. It has been looted by both parties since. I know it is not there which I why I asked you if you are just going to keep the money and deny benefits or if you have a plan to repay.

[tyeporter]

If it's not there, what's to repay?

I don't expect to get my money back that the libs are currently stealing from me.

I'd rather see the gov't allow us to take that 8% and invest it ourselves.

SS is a scam.

[crazycatfguy]

Hypothetical situation. I retire next year after paying 2 to 3 percent of my gross income for 47 years expecting to receive retirement benefits. I have not had 47 years to take that money I paid into the system and invest it in my own retirement fund so I am now one of the millions of homeless in America and you can't go anywhere with stepping on a homeless person. What are you going say? Tough titty?

[tyeporter]

What will the gov't tell you today?

They're about to tell you that you need to share what little you're going to get with 12 million illegal invaders who might just get a pardon for their felonies.

What they'll tell me is that I'll need to work for another ten years or more before I qualify for SSI retirement.

I don't see any way you and I are going to get our money back; not through retirement payments or having a private fund set up that WE own and not the people!

[crazycatfguy]

P.S. SS is known as an entitlement these days. It is called SSI and you can't find what the I stands for on any government web site but I happen to remember it stands for insurance. I paid into the system as a disability and homelessness insurance. I am disabled now and get 746 dollars a month.

[tyeporter]

Yes, I remember the I as well as being "insurance" but ask the kids these days and they know it as an entitlement but of course all the kids these days seem to think they are entitled to everything and everybody else should support them.

Oh wait, that's what universal healthcare is, isn't it?

[crazycatfguy]

You don't like SS I get it but you have no solutions for crisis that will come when it disappears.

[tyeporter]

You assume it's still around.

Right now we're barely able to maintain it and once the Baby Boomers start drawing,reality will set in for those who've actually thought it would be around for them

My "solution" is to begin NOW by allowing people to invest that 8% into private retirement funds.

We need to begin the solution somewhen in order for it to be there when we retire.

[crazycatfguy]

What I assume is that if you let people invest it will be just wonderful in about 50 years. You still have no solution for the people who have funded it for 45 or 50 years and will get nothing.

[tyeporter]

True but the system we have in place now is defunct and we're living a lie thinking that if we keep paying into it, we're going to get something later.

Why continue to pay into it now?

Those who have been paying for the last 40 years have been screwed by the politicians but that doesn't mean the next gen needs to be screwed as well, we need to begin the fix now.

[crazycatfguy]

Those millions of people you say are screwed will not retire and go into the job market looking to make at least enough to pay their property taxes to keep their homes. What will that do to unemployment? What would that do to the overall economy? Your poorly thought out ideas would be the end of this country. The problems you would create with your solutions would screw you more than you could imagine.

[tyeporter]

LOL!

You're confusing yourself.

See, I didn't create this problem (social program), nor do I condone it. It's already defunct and the millions who've paid into it are already screwed.

Without me doing a single thing, we are already borrowing from other programs to pay for baby boomers entering into retirement.

We can continue to put our fingers into the dyke as the waters gush out around us or we can build a new dam.

[crazycatfguy]

LOL! Sociopath: someone with absolutely no conscience or empathy for other people. You are advocating sending millions and millions of people into abject poverty and suffering and your excuse is that you want your retirement to be secure. I think you are a pathetic excuse for a human being and regret wasting time on you.

[tyeporter]

And how does helping a man help himself cause me to have no conscience or show that I have no empathy?

My Faith teaches me to make fishermen of men.

I want everybody to have a retirement and the system we have is causing us to go deeper into debt daily.

It would seem you'd rather lie to these people so that they'll be happy in the short term, just long enough for you to die and leave us with the bitter legacy of your greed.

[crazycatfguy]

Dude do you even read what your write. You want to deny benefits to people who paid for them. What do you think is going to happen to millions and millions and even more millions of people when that happens? What church do you know of that can fund this?

[tyeporter]

I don't "want to deny" benefits to anybody.

There are no benefits to give.

We're robing Peter to pay Paul.

We're raping other programs and screwing other people in order to keep a bankrupt program operating.

You are (rightfully) concerned about the millions today but unable to see the millions more on top of these down the road who will look at you and ask, "Why didn't you correct this when you could have?"

[crazycatfguy]

PS you genius. The obvious solution was to grandfather ss out. Pay out to the people who paid in and start new people on your plan. Your so wrapped up in your selfish little life you cant even take the time to come up with a solution that affects anyone but you.

[tyeporter]

The solution that applies to me applies to everybody.

YOu're so attached to your entitlements that you're willing to send your children, grandchildren and everybody around them into debt so deep that eventually we'll all be indentured servants to China!

All so that you can profit at the expensive of those around you.

[crazycatfguy]

Where is your source for SS putting us in debt to China? It's the war you idiot. My children and grandchildren are already in debt and have been for many decades but it was not ss that put them there. Your arguments are so devoid of logic that I have trouble believing that you do. I think you are a troll

[tyeporter]

You've run out of intelligent responses so you revert to personal insults and vulgarities.

Typical.

I was making an exaggerated joke about being indentured servants since we as a Country will be so in debt that others such as China will bail us out and buy the Nation.

You admitted that you realize we're already deep in debt and your resolution is "oh well - let's keep digging that hole so that I can retire"?

[crazycatfguy]

I find it hard to believe you have read "the book" since you come off as something of a sociopath.

[tyeporter]

Disliking socialism, communism and demanding that those who can, support themselves makes me a sociopath?

"The Book" reads that if a man won't work, he should not eat.

If we'd get rid of all of these social programs, we'd have more money to do that which we should, such as give to cahrities and private organization that help those who need it (ie health, shelter, food, etc).

[crazycatfguy]

You freaking idiot! These people did work their entire freaking lives and paid into an insurance system whether they wanted to or not. Take care of the widows. Ring a bell or do your just quote scripture out of context when it suits you? Did Jesus minister to buisnessmen or the poor? You are one warped person.

[tyeporter]

Widows are taken care of through Faith based programs and private organizations.

There is NO NEED for gov't programs to do this.

[crazycatfguy]

Tell that to the homeless people in this city and send them directions to your church.

[tyeporter]

I hand out coupons and vouchers to the local shelters every day.

Most choose not to take the vouchers.

Most choose not to accept the rides to the shelters.

If/When they change their minds, the programs are there.

Both Faith beased and secular.

[crazycatfguy]

It really pains me to find out we both support Ron Paul. I hope you think he has plans for a transition phase and does not support your "screw everyone but me" mentality.

[tyeporter]

I'm a conservative, Christian, Republican and American: I don't support Ron Paul.

He's too liberal and doesn't represent any of these groups.

[crazycatfguy]

Ron Paul is the only candidate that wants to end our national debt and our entitlement system and you don't support him. Even more evidence that you don't believe the crap you write. I am through with you troll. When you develop some reasoning skills contact me.

[tyeporter]

He wants to end the entitlement system and you claim to support him yet you want universal healthcare, SSI and other social programs?

That's dichotomy.

[legendarysim]

Haha, if you want insurance little girl. Have mommy and daddy buy it for you. That what that other 8 out of 9 children do.

[tyeporter]

AMEN!

[legendarysim]

1 out of 9 American children without insurance means one out of nine people shouldn't have had sex.

[tyeporter]

And 8 others who are potentially being supported by you and I with Gov't health care!

[legendarysim]

Susie can just go to Canada, agree?

[tyeporter]

I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy but if it's socialism she wants...

:P

[jokinomx]

Health care is in a crisis in this country. Not only are nine million children without coverage.... millions of adults don't have adequate coverage either.

You have my vote.... !!

[lfccl05]

Are you serious...

[nilrenr]

pfft...shes a liar like every politician

[Holek2]

lol

[9xDEAD]

Every child has a parent :| specially in america, jesus christ, the most riche and you are running for that. Ok.