I go to Cal State San Bernardino and I'm an English Major. I've had quite a few Stanford Nuttings as professors. What Stanford Nutting Says about being a facilitator instead of a teacher is almost exactly what I have been told by my teachers even to the point of the semi circle. The real students, just like everyone in the video, give a little sigh when the teacher puts us in a semi circle.
This video smells misleading to me. The strictly *academic*/bare-bones study of religion in the modern world is about the influences within, effects of, and interrelationships among religions... in the modern world. Nothing wrong with that. Sure, if you want to subscribe to a particular faith, go ahead! But labeling the honest and open study of other religions as "liberal relativism" is absurd. We're not asking you to proclaim those other religions to be true, just to learn about them. Simple.
@CarlSagan6 What is the lens through which these religion classes are viewed? If this seems a strange question, all classes are taught through some lens. Biology holds its lens in evolution; quantum physics in the Copenhagen interpretation, English in the MLA handbook. Through what lens does a secular professor see, and therefore teach, religion in the modern world?
@SorokChyetirye I'm not sure what you mean, but I suppose one would teach a "Religion in the Modern World" class by approaching religions as emergent, social institutions *regardless* of the truthfulness of their respective claims. That's all I'm asking.
@CarlSagan6 Perhaps. I wonder if they would someday do a study on the empirical sciences - Biology in the Modern World, for instance - and compare evolution to Intelligent Design, Lamarck's theory, theistic evolution, and the like. Or Quantum Physics in the Modern World - the Copenhagen interpretation vs. the "Many Worlds" hypothesis.
Perhaps the academia are just confused about religion? Maybe they're too busy exploring the material world to care about spiritual and religious truth?
@SorokChyetirye Are you telling me that it's intolerable to take a class about Buddhism unless it's being taught by a Catholic who denounces every bit of it in favor of Catholicism? What about the beliefs of the Greeks? Or the Egyptians? Are you so threatened by the mere presence and existence of other faiths that you label the open and honest study of them to be "unholy" or heretical?
@CarlSagan6 Not at all. Buddhism, Islam, paganism, even atheism have facets of truth that the Catholic can appreciate. It's not necessary to "denounce every bit of it in favour of Catholicism".
That said, remember that humans teach these classes. And religion (or lack thereof), being a very personal subject, is often taught through their eyes, if only partially, whether they are secular Jews, strong Buddhists, lapsed Catholics, or militant atheists.
@CarlSagan6 The open and honest study is the only thing I am trying to promote. But you will not find this in the secularist lens through which so many students receive it nowadays. Many professors are irreligious, some of them condescending and even quite hostile to religion, or even belief. Their job, it seems, is to cause the student to doubt everything about religion, rather than to share the truth. That, or agnosticism (i.e, ignorance) is just a new fad in the academia.
this is HILLARIOUS!!! I have some across so many (ex Father) Stanford's in my life. They guy who plays this character is so creepy he's AWESOME! Gave me a lot of nervous laughter at first.
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged” (Matthew 7:1) I find it interesting how so many people are so quick to judge and pretend that they know everything about anything and who's righteous and who's not.
This teacher sounds like a liberal, progressive democrat. Lets all have a "burger king" faith "have it your way". Christ founded One Church, One Faith. It was man who with his heretics and pride that broke from His Church. Since 33AD The Roman Catholic Faith. Look and see for yourself when and who started your church.
Ah yes, a slice of the rotten fruit of Vatican II. As for tolerance, I've found that the least tolerant people are usually those who most energetically champion "tolerance." Good video.
Awesome video!!! But heyyyyyy- wasn't this story taken directly from SOCRATES MEETS JESUS by Peter Kreeft? if so, make sure you acknowledge that in the title or video description. Keep up the good work!
@Jim5150jvc - Um ... no ... this has nothing to do with Kreeft's book; odd that you think it does. By the way, I have secured the rights from Kreeft's publisher for a stage adaptation of SOCRATES MEETS JESUS and the rights to record it on video. This sketch has nothing to do with that. Great book, though - and it makes a great play. Visit our website for more info.
The funny thing about people who propogate tolerance is that they are only tolerant of the the things they can tolerate. And, orthodoxy isn't one of them.
@TenderTrap86 It's a bit like Protestantism, isn't it? As Peter Kreeft described it, in Protestant churches, if you read the Bible - and agree with your pastor's teaching - the Holy Spirit will guide you to truth.
Only the Catholic Church is too humble to change Christ's teachings to suit its wants. :-)
Nice touch having nutty teacher wear swastika-like design. Religious discussions in public schools are dangerous for teacher & student alike. I used to pick fights w/teachers about evolution & humanism & then accuse them of persecuting me because I'm a Christian. There's a cross above the door :31. Is he a nutty liberal teacher in a nutty liberal religious school? Chesterson criticized liberals & conservatives alike, so is the vid pro Chesterson or just anti-liberal?
G.K. Chesterson said "Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” That's the same as saying, Intolerance is the virtue of the man with convictions. How far do you take tolerance & intolerance? I have convictions. I'm monogamous, heterosexual, married, Eastern Orthodox Christian, & personally conservative. Still, I'm a Democrat against jingoism, warmongering & anarcho-capitalism, & don't oppose "gay rights" and "abortion rights". I'm far more afraid of the right than of the left.
@Jorbz150 Oh come on, I'm anti-Abortion, except for incest, rape, life of the mother & a few other things. I should've known better about mentioning abortion rigths. Fact is, Abortion & homosexuality were common in 1st c. AD Rome, yet Jesus did not focus on it. Jesus focused against oppressors of the people, especially against religious fundamentalists of his day. Ironically, 100% of the aborted go to Heaven, whereas less than 100% of the living most likely will not. No abortion rants, please.
Yes, I believe a fetus is a person. My saying the aborted go to heaven indicates that I do believe a fetus is a person. I didn't say you HAD ranted. I ranted to clarify my views and, by saying "No abortion rants, please", let you know that I'm not interested in an abortion debate. The original subject I was talking about is my disagreement with G.K. Chesterson's comment about tolerance being the virtue of a man without convictions.
@Tov0voT So what we murder babies to get them to go to heaven? Then what about the people that are murdering the babies? Where do they go? How do you know that they go to heaven, anyway? What if they go to a place of waiting instead of hell and then at the end of time God lets them choose fro themselves where they want to go? You do not know where they go so don't try to tell me that you do.
@billyslo87 I bet most Christians believe the aborted go to Heaven, but my UPCI Preacher brother-in-law believes the aborted that do not have at least one "Oneness Pentecostal" parent will go to Hell. I'm sure he beliefs that because he sees a "free pass" wouldn't be far to the unaborted. I love twisted logic. My comments regard G.K.Chesterson saying, "Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions." Jesus is uber tolerant. Jesus preached against the religious who oppress others.
This never ceases to amuse me- Kevin O'Brien is fantastic. I love Stanford Nutting and his identical twin half brother, Bill Johnson- he needs to make a YouTube appearance soon.
Maybe it's because you have setted your video as "not listed" in the privacy settings. (this setting can be found when you go to the "My videos" page and click on edit there.)
Religion is like our appendix, a vestigial remnant from a primitive past. Perhaps in a few millennia the god of Abraham will invoke the same curious amusement as rain and sun gods do today. Or perhaps our god will simply be shelved along with Zeus and Jupiter. If so we will no longer bother searching for meaning and purpose as a divine mandate but will work to define our own by appealing to our inherent good derived from our sociality and evolutionary history. Some day.
"Our inherent good derived from our sociality and evolutionary history?" This is gibberish. If all that we are, as humans, is evolved animals, who have come into being out of a purely naturalistic process, then we *have* no inherent good. How does an inherent good exist, without a Mind that exists apart from, and above, any of us to *define* that good? If we are the ones who define it, then it is not inherent. It is merely a human preference.
Listen, I believe in Creationism, but I don't want to speak to Christians who are evolutionists as if they aren't being Christian. As long as they except Christ as Lord, and God as their creator, what do these interpretations matter? Romans 14 teaches us not to pass judgement on disputable manners.
Please read what I wrote carefully. I wrote about people understanding themselves as *only* evolved animals. This would be an atheistic understanding of evolution. I also referred to a "purely naturalistic process." If God is involved in evolution, then it isn't a "purely naturalistic process." Bigmikemd410 believes in an atheistic form of evolution, because he is an atheist. It is *that* form of evolution which I was dealing with in my comment, not God-guided evolution.
Are you sure this wasn't a documentary? It hit the nail on the head, minus that the "facilitator" was too young and didn't mention that his Jesuit education made him all knowing.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry! I'm pretty sure I had Stanford as a CCD instructor, while he was still a seminarian in 1970. To this day, "getting in a circle to share" makes me want to run screaming from the room. As usual, Kevin, you nailed the character... well done!
"Religion ... it's about tolerance and I will not tolerate any mention of that ... G.K. Chesterton." That just about sums up the "dictatorship of relativism." Maybe we should forward this video to Pope Benedict. He'd have a good chuckle over this too.
I go to Cal State San Bernardino and I'm an English Major. I've had quite a few Stanford Nuttings as professors. What Stanford Nutting Says about being a facilitator instead of a teacher is almost exactly what I have been told by my teachers even to the point of the semi circle. The real students, just like everyone in the video, give a little sigh when the teacher puts us in a semi circle.
tatripp 1 month ago
This video smells misleading to me. The strictly *academic*/bare-bones study of religion in the modern world is about the influences within, effects of, and interrelationships among religions... in the modern world. Nothing wrong with that. Sure, if you want to subscribe to a particular faith, go ahead! But labeling the honest and open study of other religions as "liberal relativism" is absurd. We're not asking you to proclaim those other religions to be true, just to learn about them. Simple.
CarlSagan6 4 months ago
@CarlSagan6 ...Stanford Nutting just gave you an "A+". Way to go buddy!
dogmaticcommenter 3 months ago
@dogmaticcommenter I sense a slice of sarcasm in that, but I'll choose to take it as a genuine complement :)
CarlSagan6 3 months ago
@CarlSagan6 What is the lens through which these religion classes are viewed? If this seems a strange question, all classes are taught through some lens. Biology holds its lens in evolution; quantum physics in the Copenhagen interpretation, English in the MLA handbook. Through what lens does a secular professor see, and therefore teach, religion in the modern world?
SorokChyetirye 3 months ago
@SorokChyetirye I'm not sure what you mean, but I suppose one would teach a "Religion in the Modern World" class by approaching religions as emergent, social institutions *regardless* of the truthfulness of their respective claims. That's all I'm asking.
CarlSagan6 3 months ago
@CarlSagan6 Perhaps. I wonder if they would someday do a study on the empirical sciences - Biology in the Modern World, for instance - and compare evolution to Intelligent Design, Lamarck's theory, theistic evolution, and the like. Or Quantum Physics in the Modern World - the Copenhagen interpretation vs. the "Many Worlds" hypothesis.
Perhaps the academia are just confused about religion? Maybe they're too busy exploring the material world to care about spiritual and religious truth?
SorokChyetirye 3 months ago
@SorokChyetirye Are you telling me that it's intolerable to take a class about Buddhism unless it's being taught by a Catholic who denounces every bit of it in favor of Catholicism? What about the beliefs of the Greeks? Or the Egyptians? Are you so threatened by the mere presence and existence of other faiths that you label the open and honest study of them to be "unholy" or heretical?
CarlSagan6 3 months ago
@CarlSagan6 Not at all. Buddhism, Islam, paganism, even atheism have facets of truth that the Catholic can appreciate. It's not necessary to "denounce every bit of it in favour of Catholicism".
That said, remember that humans teach these classes. And religion (or lack thereof), being a very personal subject, is often taught through their eyes, if only partially, whether they are secular Jews, strong Buddhists, lapsed Catholics, or militant atheists.
SorokChyetirye 3 months ago
@CarlSagan6 The open and honest study is the only thing I am trying to promote. But you will not find this in the secularist lens through which so many students receive it nowadays. Many professors are irreligious, some of them condescending and even quite hostile to religion, or even belief. Their job, it seems, is to cause the student to doubt everything about religion, rather than to share the truth. That, or agnosticism (i.e, ignorance) is just a new fad in the academia.
SorokChyetirye 3 months ago
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Flobbyoiboyz 4 months ago
Awesom video...."Modern religion is about tolerance....I WILL NOT TOLERATE G.K. Chesterton" Hilarious!
nmiller731 5 months ago
this is HILLARIOUS!!! I have some across so many (ex Father) Stanford's in my life. They guy who plays this character is so creepy he's AWESOME! Gave me a lot of nervous laughter at first.
capone70 5 months ago
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged” (Matthew 7:1) I find it interesting how so many people are so quick to judge and pretend that they know everything about anything and who's righteous and who's not.
bok666choy 5 months ago
LOL!!!! hahahahahaha
kevs22Am 5 months ago
This teacher sounds like a liberal, progressive democrat. Lets all have a "burger king" faith "have it your way". Christ founded One Church, One Faith. It was man who with his heretics and pride that broke from His Church. Since 33AD The Roman Catholic Faith. Look and see for yourself when and who started your church.
GodFamilyCountryCorp 5 months ago
@GodFamilyCountryCorp that's the point, it's satire
Noidzar 5 months ago
Ah yes, a slice of the rotten fruit of Vatican II. As for tolerance, I've found that the least tolerant people are usually those who most energetically champion "tolerance." Good video.
Jitpring 5 months ago
Awesome video!!! But heyyyyyy- wasn't this story taken directly from SOCRATES MEETS JESUS by Peter Kreeft? if so, make sure you acknowledge that in the title or video description. Keep up the good work!
Jim5150jvc 5 months ago
@Jim5150jvc - Um ... no ... this has nothing to do with Kreeft's book; odd that you think it does. By the way, I have secured the rights from Kreeft's publisher for a stage adaptation of SOCRATES MEETS JESUS and the rights to record it on video. This sketch has nothing to do with that. Great book, though - and it makes a great play. Visit our website for more info.
TheaterOfTheWordInc 5 months ago
this video is awesome.
peruvianhitman 5 months ago
LOL... AMAZING!
UNFORTUNATELLY THIS PLAGUE HAS ALREADY COME TO BRAZIL!
feanando 8 months ago
Strikingly similar to my theology class.
Xolus317 8 months ago
His theology is not new; he is Paulo Freire.
pedrohqb 8 months ago
Cool, I wished my Religion subject was that way.
Editfan 9 months ago
The funny thing about people who propogate tolerance is that they are only tolerant of the the things they can tolerate. And, orthodoxy isn't one of them.
TenderTrap86 9 months ago 5
@TenderTrap86 It's a bit like Protestantism, isn't it? As Peter Kreeft described it, in Protestant churches, if you read the Bible - and agree with your pastor's teaching - the Holy Spirit will guide you to truth.
Only the Catholic Church is too humble to change Christ's teachings to suit its wants. :-)
GenghisKhan44 9 months ago
hahahha
Oh Lord, I don't have faith to believe in the fucking modernism
Loiginer 9 months ago 4
ha ha my teacher is one of the students!!
xXsammyluvXx 9 months ago
Sister Jane Curtin, ARE YOU LISTENING!!?? This is what religious instruction in the archdiocese of New York sounds like!!
GabrielEspinosa7 11 months ago
"There's nothing more important than ... the Modern World". Hilarious!
Drasai 11 months ago 2
Muy bueno ¿no lo habrá con subtítulos?
gerardoguineav 1 year ago
@gerardoguineav Translation: This fellow thinks this is very good, but he wants subtitles.
GenghisKhan44 1 year ago
this isn't funny because it's true
scottishlowoflow 1 year ago 2
Wow! Stewart Nutting would actually be an improvement if he ran for Presiding Bishop of The Episcopal Church.
PhilLewis44 1 year ago
My professor's name was Steve.
philochristos 1 year ago
Nice touch having nutty teacher wear swastika-like design. Religious discussions in public schools are dangerous for teacher & student alike. I used to pick fights w/teachers about evolution & humanism & then accuse them of persecuting me because I'm a Christian. There's a cross above the door :31. Is he a nutty liberal teacher in a nutty liberal religious school? Chesterson criticized liberals & conservatives alike, so is the vid pro Chesterson or just anti-liberal?
Tov0voT 1 year ago 2
G.K. Chesterson said "Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” That's the same as saying, Intolerance is the virtue of the man with convictions. How far do you take tolerance & intolerance? I have convictions. I'm monogamous, heterosexual, married, Eastern Orthodox Christian, & personally conservative. Still, I'm a Democrat against jingoism, warmongering & anarcho-capitalism, & don't oppose "gay rights" and "abortion rights". I'm far more afraid of the right than of the left.
Tov0voT 1 year ago
Do you not believe that the fetus is a person?
Jorbz150 1 year ago
@Jorbz150 Oh come on, I'm anti-Abortion, except for incest, rape, life of the mother & a few other things. I should've known better about mentioning abortion rigths. Fact is, Abortion & homosexuality were common in 1st c. AD Rome, yet Jesus did not focus on it. Jesus focused against oppressors of the people, especially against religious fundamentalists of his day. Ironically, 100% of the aborted go to Heaven, whereas less than 100% of the living most likely will not. No abortion rants, please.
Tov0voT 1 year ago
@Tov0voT
I asked a simple question, you gave a rant. Why are you asking ME not to give an abortion rant?
If you would, please answer the question
Jorbz150 1 year ago
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@Jorbz150
Also, abortion has little to nothing to do with homosexuality.
Jorbz150 1 year ago
Yes, I believe a fetus is a person. My saying the aborted go to heaven indicates that I do believe a fetus is a person. I didn't say you HAD ranted. I ranted to clarify my views and, by saying "No abortion rants, please", let you know that I'm not interested in an abortion debate. The original subject I was talking about is my disagreement with G.K. Chesterson's comment about tolerance being the virtue of a man without convictions.
Tov0voT 1 year ago
@Tov0voT So what we murder babies to get them to go to heaven? Then what about the people that are murdering the babies? Where do they go? How do you know that they go to heaven, anyway? What if they go to a place of waiting instead of hell and then at the end of time God lets them choose fro themselves where they want to go? You do not know where they go so don't try to tell me that you do.
billyslo87 1 year ago
@billyslo87 I bet most Christians believe the aborted go to Heaven, but my UPCI Preacher brother-in-law believes the aborted that do not have at least one "Oneness Pentecostal" parent will go to Hell. I'm sure he beliefs that because he sees a "free pass" wouldn't be far to the unaborted. I love twisted logic. My comments regard G.K.Chesterson saying, "Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions." Jesus is uber tolerant. Jesus preached against the religious who oppress others.
Tov0voT 1 year ago
Thanks, fxwrldfan. The moral: never let your teen-aged son upload and title your videos.
TheaterOfTheWordInc 1 year ago
This never ceases to amuse me- Kevin O'Brien is fantastic. I love Stanford Nutting and his identical twin half brother, Bill Johnson- he needs to make a YouTube appearance soon.
LunsOnstage 1 year ago
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This is stupid.
ashide1 1 year ago
Big Mike, that's great! I'll put it in Stanford's next video. Meanwhile, good luck on that vestigial appendectomy.
TheaterOfTheWordInc 1 year ago
@TheaterOfTheWordInc
Do you know why your video is not found when searching for "religion in the modern world" on Youtube?
Speculum81 1 year ago
@Speculum81 No. Do you?
TheaterOfTheWordInc 1 year ago
@TheaterOfTheWordInc
Maybe it's because you have setted your video as "not listed" in the privacy settings. (this setting can be found when you go to the "My videos" page and click on edit there.)
Speculum81 1 year ago
@TheaterOfTheWordInc
Because you misspelt religion, you're missing the letter "I"(eye). In does come up when you search for "Religon" in the Modern World
fxwrldfan 1 year ago
@TheaterOfTheWordInc
Maybe Oprah bought Youtube.
Jorbz150 1 year ago
Religion is like our appendix, a vestigial remnant from a primitive past. Perhaps in a few millennia the god of Abraham will invoke the same curious amusement as rain and sun gods do today. Or perhaps our god will simply be shelved along with Zeus and Jupiter. If so we will no longer bother searching for meaning and purpose as a divine mandate but will work to define our own by appealing to our inherent good derived from our sociality and evolutionary history. Some day.
bigmikemd410 1 year ago
@bigmikemd410:
"Our inherent good derived from our sociality and evolutionary history?" This is gibberish. If all that we are, as humans, is evolved animals, who have come into being out of a purely naturalistic process, then we *have* no inherent good. How does an inherent good exist, without a Mind that exists apart from, and above, any of us to *define* that good? If we are the ones who define it, then it is not inherent. It is merely a human preference.
christianman73 1 year ago
@christianman73
Listen, I believe in Creationism, but I don't want to speak to Christians who are evolutionists as if they aren't being Christian. As long as they except Christ as Lord, and God as their creator, what do these interpretations matter? Romans 14 teaches us not to pass judgement on disputable manners.
Jorbz150 1 year ago
@Jorbz150:
Please read what I wrote carefully. I wrote about people understanding themselves as *only* evolved animals. This would be an atheistic understanding of evolution. I also referred to a "purely naturalistic process." If God is involved in evolution, then it isn't a "purely naturalistic process." Bigmikemd410 believes in an atheistic form of evolution, because he is an atheist. It is *that* form of evolution which I was dealing with in my comment, not God-guided evolution.
christianman73 1 year ago
"i'm your facilitator ..." Brilliant!
"I'm fascinated by the topic of religion in the modern world ... because there is nothing MORE IMPORTANT than the modern world."
Brilliant.
justalayman 1 year ago 15
Are you sure this wasn't a documentary? It hit the nail on the head, minus that the "facilitator" was too young and didn't mention that his Jesuit education made him all knowing.
TheLichens 1 year ago
Perfect. I think Mr. Stan is worthy of a series!
DanSOConnor 1 year ago
@DanSOConnor Haha didn't realize that there already is
DanSOConnor 1 year ago
That was hilarious (and sadly true). Thanks!
RanMouri82 1 year ago
I figured that was Kevin O'Brien. He is certainly a genuis. And an orthodox one at that. ; )
DCNY31279 1 year ago
Oh how true this is...
Yankeegator 1 year ago
This is SO REALISTIC!
gkcfan 1 year ago 2
Reminds me of highschool
midnightrid3r 1 year ago
"If I were standing at this podium talking down to you, well then I'd be standing at this podium talking down to you." lol
LiberStudios 1 year ago
Unfortunately, 'tis so true... if I may be so bold to be intolerant!!
Keep up the good work , please!
hchoctow 1 year ago 2
yup we have a few clowns like that in the Catholic Church.
Radabah 1 year ago 2
I thought he died lol
AbdielAbiram 1 year ago
I don't know whether to laugh or cry! I'm pretty sure I had Stanford as a CCD instructor, while he was still a seminarian in 1970. To this day, "getting in a circle to share" makes me want to run screaming from the room. As usual, Kevin, you nailed the character... well done!
ouroligarchy 2 years ago 2
"Religion ... it's about tolerance and I will not tolerate any mention of that ... G.K. Chesterton." That just about sums up the "dictatorship of relativism." Maybe we should forward this video to Pope Benedict. He'd have a good chuckle over this too.
chrisgaffrey 2 years ago 16
absolutely brilliant!
MarkHolgate 2 years ago
Very funny and well observed with great characterization. Terrific.
martialtaichi 2 years ago
Colin is clearly trying to keep from cracking up at the very end.
sadecamus 2 years ago