10:12 So only a quarter of their monthly earnings go on rent, that's much less than the UK, Then he says the government should provide a home as part of his human rights, cry me a river. And i though it was just this that made people scroungers.
Oooh china is sooo doomed especially since the government still doesn't listen at all to its people...you'd think they'd understand that collective people have power and that you can only push people so far before they snap
China is aware of imminent changes to Earth and so it has and is preparing for the relocation of soon-to-be tens of millions of Chinese refugees. The question is: what is our government doing to protect us? Nothing. Just my opinion.
Typical liberal/commie/socialist failure. Always thinking putting money into random infrastructure is good because it temporarily creates jobs, like he said "It's the quality of GDP not the quantity."
@baller84milw Then why the fuck are we nation building in iraq and Afghanistan? 2 trillion in the shit hole and you're complaining about spending money at home?? Have a seat!
@jaydogg321 LOL. Thats why I didn't vote for Obama. Majority of conservatives share my view and object to such spending under the guise of "infrastructure building."
You mean to tell me, that the frozen cracked streets of Chicago, if fixed, will somehow help people get jobs in that affected community? Wrong. They will crack again in 2 years and you'd have thrown that taxpayer money down the drain.
@baller84milw It doesn't take a genius to know that repairing streets, bridges, roads, ect... are investments which allows commerce to flow. What, should we just let our infrastructure decay? What kind of country you think america is?? I love how you completely ignore the fact that we are spending trillions of "taxpayer" money in useless wars and you have the audacity so bitch and complain about liberals spending our money back at home? Typical Hypocritical uneducated republicans.
@jaydogg321 We dont have bridges falling down, we dont have edifices crumbling. Second, the majority of debt the US has built up is not from any of the wars we're involved in.
@baller84milw So your argument is to wait until our bridges fall and crumble first before we do anything to fix it? How fucking unamerican of you!! This isn't a third world country. Plus how is spending 2 billion dollars a week on wars in iraq and afgan. not add to deficits???? Are you stupid or just crazy? One advise to you.....STOP WATCHING FAUX NEWS!!! You are a embarrassment to America.
"people speculating in the market have pushed prices too high. We need the government to intervene" Actually it's the government that has been holding unrealistically high prices for these unoccupied buildings.
there are a lot of spy from the goverment hiden here,there want to pulzzed people's opinion from the turth ,and acutually ,i can not agreeing the video anymore ,because i can see and feel the same thing myself ,and support more videos about the turth.
They talk to you as if you're stupid and don't know what's going on in China,and people act like they have something to hide.Poor old woman will be another person to be ripped off! What China needs is a war which will take place in near future! They are no better than North Korea!
Central Planning is awesome, let's spend money and build things so china can be look great in the eye of the people. don't worry about Hospital or school or welfare program, nobody will see it anyway. LOL.....
They have the most expensive rail road in the world, have the most skyscrapers in the world, have the longest bridge in the world, i think. all they do because they want the world to witness the Quality of the Nation, but they forget to focus the Quality of the People.
China and its people are the Filthiest on the planet. They spit, piss, and shit wherever they want, including on busy public streets and tourist attractions. They are also Incredibly rude and have no common sense.
Basically China are demolishing poor homes and building rich homes in there place. But people cant afford these rich homes so that will cause poverty and probably a revolution and alot of bloodshed as China has a communist government and do what they like to there people because no one votes.
slave wages will not be able to spend money in the fashion they have here. The stupid business men that took their businesses to China might have lined their own pockets but sad when they walk around (knowing they destroyed the economy in America) and see the vacant shopping centers and businesses. I hope they realize just how they have aided and abetted the dung-headed American politicians.
@BoboTalkClown - it is like the over supply that happened in the US real estate bubble except on a much much bigger scale that looks like it's going to be much much worse. The scale of and magnitude of overbuilding in china is truly amazing. Real estate prices are coming down in china at an accelerating rate with no end in sight. They're down 40% since 2009 and they're still vastly overpriced for what the people can actually afford. Yet they continue to build for GDP growth.
Anyone seeing the same mobility in USA and Europe today? Workers flocking from Detroit back to hometowns during Christmas? How many % of population can afford winter holidays in say, Miami or Hawaii?
If anyone think China's collapsing then how to explain the heavy flow of train traffic before Chinese New Year, any explaination on the mobility of the workers in the main cities? How about Hainan being so packed with travellers during winters? Yes, a lot of these ghost towns exist in towns used for housing speculations alone due to lack of jobs and infrastructures in these towns (Zhuhai, Haikou, etc) but this's Chinese issue, Western corporate media STFU, they themselves are so blood-drenched.
@071590z this video is asking local people questions...like WHY DO THEY HAVE TO CAST OFF THEIR CHILD TO THEIR PARENTS AND SEE THAT CHILD ONCE A YEAR??? That is not a great way to live you get out of your fantasy land.
@071590z Remember when China was backward as Pakistan and 100% agricultural everyone was calling China 'yellow dogs and pigs/ East Asia sick men'. No matter what changes occur there's always something western corporate medias try to pick on.
@071590z It's not going to collapse with a command economy. Collapse or recession indicates the market reallocating goods and recovering. If the government keeps prices high for vacant housing, people won't buy it. Eventually if they lower the prices people will buy it, but overall it would be at a net loss because these things were built arbitrarily rather than out of demand.
Why don't they just give the damn things away rather than let them rot when there are so many peasants in China living in huts? China has the worst of both worlds (communism and capitalism), the poverty produced by communism and the overproduction caused by capitalism. Isn't it better to make use of this? At least before it was used to grow food, now it's just sitting there, unused.
I personally saw this in Schenzen. I’m not saying Szhenzen was a ghost town but there were way too many of these, enormous buildings that you could see the sun right through them with nothing inside. No cars, no people walking in and out, no delivery vehicles etc I commented at the time it was like a Potemkin village along the highway, like a façade. In Zhuhai, I walked down several blocks of restaurants where there was not a single customer. I ate at places where I was the only one.
Having said that, I found my time there amazing and the people so kind, polite and accommodating. I was shocked. People were actually exited to see us and so helpful and curious, a little Chinese girl dragged her mother to us to try her English on me. I have never seen such overenthusiastic service & happy curiosity. I thought they would hate me and America in general (like France) but it was the polar opposite. It was so strange. You simply must go and visit. You'll love it there.
i had no work today and watched a video that caught my eye about china and Iran and in the comments below was everyone hating on America. Curious i went to other china and America videos and the same thing. I have no doubt in my mind china is doing cyber propaganda against America on you tube on a incredible mass scale.
@uberpacman02 Funded by Russia , go to the RussiaToday Channel and you'll see. While China is building up , Russia funds the propaganda against Americans.
@MrPeace2mind Constant warfare there were civil wars among lords, thousands? no maybe a few hundred, and tribalism that IS a complete and utter lie. Maybe in the real early days but not thousands of years.
Millions of empty apartments in China, more than a million foreclosed empty houses in America...I know I am naive and idealistic about this, but just seems maddening when there are also millions of homeless all over the world. After one look at this planet any visitor from outer space would say 'I want to see the manager.' Capitalism, Socialism, whatever, it's just human incompetence that ruins any effort to create an 'efficient' society. Maybe we are making slow progress from the middle ages
@HanZeroon people wont move in, the average person in china makes $3,000 (dollar converted) and the average u.s person makes $50,000. on a salary of 50,000 you would still have trouble to move into a nice brand new city
@MattMan276hemi it's defferent around the cost line of China, people there're rich. If you know anothing about China than you would know that there're tones of Chinese that are trying to get into urban areas, and mark my word, there're going to be tones of people in that part soon, but sadly by then CNN wouldn't even want to show you guys how China really is like :( i feel sad about how Americans are mostly brainwashed.
@HanZeroon I'm sorry but no one is going to take you seriously if you cant spell to save your life, So you really think America is brain washed, that makes me laugh when you compare us to china owner of the worlds most protected and censored Internet, lets not forget in recent news the banning of popular shows just because they are an influence of American culture,new generation china can't get enough of it,but the Chinese government doesn't want it because it gives them.....
@MattMan276hemi ....blocked of from the rest of your own country, talk about brainwashed, china will fall it they may think they are rising up now but thats only because they are having an industrial revolution like America 100 years ago, only this time their is no demand for it( as you have seen in the video) china is ready for the modern world. what the modern country need is to be innovative and free, china doesn't have any of that and America does.
@HanZeroon ...the idea of freedom and rights , and no i don't sit in front of the news every day waiting for them to tell me what to think. i actually went to china 2 years back and requested the most traditional area with no urban fast life and no western culture,and thats what they gave me.i lived with a family their for 3 weeks in a small 2 room house with the only thing to brag about was the fact that it had running water. im sure you live on the cost line in an urban life...
Look, to maintain artificially high GDP, the Chinese government is constructing buildings that do not have buyer, where the money comes from, then? From somewhere has to come! If this is true, one day the buildings will have to reach its actual value, market, with falling prices. Otherwise, does not hold.
I am a Falun Gong practitioner. Falun Dafa is a cultivation system in the Buddha School based on the principles of the Universe: 真 Truthfulness 善 Compassion 忍 Forbearance.
Since 1999 it has been brutally persecuted by the CCP in China. People are being killed, tortured, put into concentration camps and have organs harvested from live people, simply because of their belief. More than 3400 Falun Gong practitioners have died at the hands of CCP in the past 12 years.
@radiovaral2 On the other hand, he was right of saying that the favelas were in a civil war. But he was extremely exagerated when he attempt to convince that Brazil is a enormous favela in civil war. That´s pure sensationalism.
I suppose the video itself is evidence enough to claim that it is indeed a Ghost City. Well, for a communist government, that sure is one pretty clean city. The thing is, there's pretty much less people in it. LOL! And there are even clusters of 'white elephants'. Someone occupy them please!
China is experiencing what the U.S. had in the early 90's. Developers overbuilt, and there were no buyers. The banks collapsed under the unpaid loans.
@071590z Can you please explain how they the reporters are HATING on China, because they are only commenting on how bad the housing crisis is in China. Secondly, no one has predicted China's downfall since the 1949, in fact many investors and analysts predicted China as the next big market during the 1980s alongside with India. Please stop being so defensive every country has its problems do not attack reporters WHO REPORT PROBLEMS because that is what they are supposed to do!
@Cartolo101 I make my arguments and points, I REFUTE ALL THE VIDEOS POINTS, so if you think you are BLOODY RIGHT, try and refute me and STOP FARTING BIASNESS
Thank you (and I dare you to refute them) We are ADULTS, debates should be based on facts and evidence
@Deidgar don't change topics, refute my points if you can, second thing is that people in China want property prices to drop so that we can buy them, high property prices which young people cannot buy homes and establish families are bad for society, oh gosh, it seems I am talking simple economics to eskimos.
U do realise that a property bust in China could have implict consequences on the world economy ??? no ones wants china to fail; if that happens, the rest of the world will feel the pinch as well. It's better to highlight the painful truth now, so that steps could be taken to avoid an upcoming economic depression.
You spoke of urbanization but fail to understand that a fair chunk of the chinese populace are too poor to ever afford a consumerist lifestyle.
@071590z Are there a lot of squatters in these "ghost" cities? I mean, who's to stop a Chinese family from moving into one of these places? I can't imagine there are too many police men around to stop them.
@christo930 6. "Why don't they give the damn things away?" --- I have said already === urbanization --- things are built for a reason --- people will eventually move in
7. The government are now bringing down property prices so common people after working for 20 years can afford a home
8. Why don't busybodies in West give up their homes to the Occupied Wall Street?
9. How many of you seriously believe that China has 64 million empty apartments?
@071590z you are not getting the point. China is indulging in massive infrastructure projects when there is no demand. That kind of forced GDP expansion will not sustain itself.
@071590z Don't you think it's better to give the peasants a place to live than to see these perfectly good apartments fall into disrepair because nobody lives there? Don't the Chinese people deserve some of the fruits of their hard labor? Chinese people worked very hard to build China into what it is today, and yet so many Chinese people are suffering. The Chinese DESERVE better.
@christo930 1. Please refute my points and don't change topics
2. Yes the Chinese do deserve better, THAT'S WHY THE PROPERTY PRICES ARE DROPPING SO THAT COMMON PEOPLE CAN AFFORD THEM
3. I am talking with many country people, I find them avoiding topics and evidence and not even knowing basic issues and yet can even comment on "they deserve better"
4. "So many Chinese ppl are suffering" PLEASE STATE EVIDENCE to back up
5. Our history we are bullied by other countries, we don't need busybodies
@071590z Prices are still nowhere near where the average Chinese can pay, and since they are upping the down payment as a % of the home price, the lower prices aren't helping with the down payment. A very large % of Chinese peasants are still subsistence farmers.
4. A very large percent of Chinese are subsistence farmers ---- LOL --- Please do provide evidence to back you up
5. Do you even been to China? Do you know what is migrant workers
6. Come on you don't know anything, you try to shift topics up and down
7. What I am saying is that this video is biased and distorting the facts and I AM STILL DEMANDING EVIDENCE THAT THE REPORTER GET 64 MILLION EMPTY APARTMENTS
@071590z China is roughly the same size as the US, I live on the east coast of the US, and I would NEVER under any circumstance take philadelphia and what I know about philadelphia and superimpose it on the US in general. Living in China doesn't make you an expert on China. If you want to talk about YOUR specific small area of China, then give it a go, otherwise, STFU.
@071590z EVidence is hard to find when China will not allow things to be photographed freely or their people are monitored so heavily they cannot go on the internet properly.
@071590z so let me get this straight...you are basically excusing the evil of one nation by pointing out the evil in another...hmmm ...that's some logic you got there...
"Why don't you Westerners pay reparations for 200 years of exploitation of China?"
Because you signed agreements. To the Chinese if a negotiation has any benefit to the other party, it was a failure and weakness of the Chinese to prevent this. This is not normal on this planet - business negotiations have two parties who benefit.
Only the Chinese think that is wrong.
Going to pay reparations for the Black Plague anytime soon?
@071590z Oh yes People are moving to these places not of their own freewill---- poeple want to leave a home where they raised their own food to begin stuck up in a terrace apartments. People in Mexico are poor as shit and they live in houses nto apartments because no one wants that they want LAND -- your worth of a person can be manipulated by how you use your land. And China "moved" all the people out Tibet to make one of these cities as well..
@071590z Oh really why are monks killing themselves??? A dire sin to the Buddhist faith? You live in China ?? Do you have to share water like the people in this video?
I live in America and I see that a lot of people have stopped shopping at Wallmart -- so nice that is what your economy is built on cheap crap going into the landfill where is the pride?
What about the rapid urbanization of china by 2025 they are planned to have 221 cities with over a million people. do you not think they might be planning for the future
What an insane bubble. All the fools who think China will become the economic engine or the world are in for a big come uppance. I remember the '80s, when Japan was going to become the world's new economic super power. Now the PRC is being cast in that role. What worries me most is the PRC's "investment" in arms. There is only one way to recoup such an investment, by using it to steal the assets of other weaker countries.
@powerofthroughts China built those cities not because they are jealous but because they care for their people the same way loving parents can foreseen danger and make preparations, unlike your country has prepaired NOTHING FOR YOU nor your family
@Sandra66237 "they care for their people the same way loving parents can foreseen danger and make preparations" LMFAO if that's what you think about the chinese government... you are oh so horribly wrong...
a person whom talks like this has poor thinking, were not the europeans that were envy of the rest of the world? europe was poor, stinking and full of disgrace when they thought they had to go and STEAL from the other continents, AFRICA , AMERICA AND INDIA? They established themselves in the lands of OTHERS raping, killing and destroying the lifes of the natives of these lands. You must be full of hate, hate is a result of IGNORANCE.
Real estate prices in some cities recently fell 30-50% in ONE MONTH! Now that's an opportunity. My message to China: Don't interfere with the market Chinese gov't, but I'm afraid you will try. Allow price discovery find the proper market price.
quite naive aren't you GREAT AMERICAN'S..... the chinese are prepared to shelter theyr people with this coming war and earth changes...so who is stupid now???? who laughs last????????? you know... although I had to flee out of my country so that the usa could steal our oil on their terms, I feel for the american people, because you guys have been a victim just like the rest of the world..... so peace!
It is not ok to think yourselves better than others...................
@Zooligable Did you really read what I wrote??? No need to call people names... I said : I feel for the american people,.... so peace! I turn to you the other cheek
So China will go under and take the US with it... The Russia will become nuclear Britian will strike first because of America and then we're all fucked.....
@Sandra66237 sorry，i can't understand your mean. i mean is that there are phenomenon of "Ghost Cities", not this phenomenon is not in ZhengZhou(Cities of Videos),but in Inner Mongolia(other Chinese cities).
Very typical problem in a command economy; malinvestment and the improper allocation of resources.
It is, however, a bit silly to say the answer is to get all the people with housing issues in Shanghai and Beijing to move into these apartments; there are no jobs in the ghost cities!
While there does seem to be occupancy problems of malls and apartments in China, the specific example of this Dongguan mall is different to the economic problem. There are many malls in cities that are packed every day. This particular mall was built in a very inconvenient location with no public transport to get there. Some famous ghost cities in China were the government's failed attempt to move residents from an older city into a newer, more modern and convenient city.
how come China is overpopulated then??? do they build those for their DEAD? what will happen if a devastating earthquake strikes there? what is the use of empty cities filled with old buildings??? spending without any use is very funny, almost Greek like funny.
10:12 So only a quarter of their monthly earnings go on rent, that's much less than the UK, Then he says the government should provide a home as part of his human rights, cry me a river. And i though it was just this that made people scroungers.
conspiracytheory1066 1 day ago
Why don't they fill them with the Chinese in Europe? I'm sure they didn't want to leave their land. They'd all get jobs, all have a nice home.
conspiracytheory1066 1 day ago
Oooh china is sooo doomed especially since the government still doesn't listen at all to its people...you'd think they'd understand that collective people have power and that you can only push people so far before they snap
candynsweetslife 1 day ago
worthless shitbrains... 90 percent of their population are tortured in factories..
sexking83 2 days ago
弱智新闻.早晨5点钟拍的新闻吧. 下次 中午的时候拍吧我建议
cct346078604 6 days ago
只知道内蒙古有鬼城，没想到在人口密度这么大的东莞深圳都有鬼城的存在
livra006 1 week ago
China is aware of imminent changes to Earth and so it has and is preparing for the relocation of soon-to-be tens of millions of Chinese refugees. The question is: what is our government doing to protect us? Nothing. Just my opinion.
2003iprayforgod 1 week ago
12 MILLION PEOPLE??! That's a lot of hot chinese girls! 8D I'm moving there!
vanvanbluz 1 week ago
@vanvanbluz China's men ratio to girl is 50:1 good luck.
MikeyCreation 1 week ago
Look! No pollution.
Topazman12 1 week ago
Typical liberal/commie/socialist failure. Always thinking putting money into random infrastructure is good because it temporarily creates jobs, like he said "It's the quality of GDP not the quantity."
baller84milw 1 week ago
@baller84milw Then why the fuck are we nation building in iraq and Afghanistan? 2 trillion in the shit hole and you're complaining about spending money at home?? Have a seat!
jaydogg321 2 days ago
@jaydogg321 LOL. Thats why I didn't vote for Obama. Majority of conservatives share my view and object to such spending under the guise of "infrastructure building."
You mean to tell me, that the frozen cracked streets of Chicago, if fixed, will somehow help people get jobs in that affected community? Wrong. They will crack again in 2 years and you'd have thrown that taxpayer money down the drain.
baller84milw 2 days ago
@baller84milw It doesn't take a genius to know that repairing streets, bridges, roads, ect... are investments which allows commerce to flow. What, should we just let our infrastructure decay? What kind of country you think america is?? I love how you completely ignore the fact that we are spending trillions of "taxpayer" money in useless wars and you have the audacity so bitch and complain about liberals spending our money back at home? Typical Hypocritical uneducated republicans.
jaydogg321 1 day ago
@jaydogg321 We dont have bridges falling down, we dont have edifices crumbling. Second, the majority of debt the US has built up is not from any of the wars we're involved in.
baller84milw 1 day ago
@baller84milw So your argument is to wait until our bridges fall and crumble first before we do anything to fix it? How fucking unamerican of you!! This isn't a third world country. Plus how is spending 2 billion dollars a week on wars in iraq and afgan. not add to deficits???? Are you stupid or just crazy? One advise to you.....STOP WATCHING FAUX NEWS!!! You are a embarrassment to America.
jaydogg321 1 day ago
"people speculating in the market have pushed prices too high. We need the government to intervene" Actually it's the government that has been holding unrealistically high prices for these unoccupied buildings.
SecondAgeOfReason 2 weeks ago
there are a lot of spy from the goverment hiden here,there want to pulzzed people's opinion from the turth ,and acutually ,i can not agreeing the video anymore ,because i can see and feel the same thing myself ,and support more videos about the turth.
dongxiangyuning 2 weeks ago
They talk to you as if you're stupid and don't know what's going on in China,and people act like they have something to hide.Poor old woman will be another person to be ripped off! What China needs is a war which will take place in near future! They are no better than North Korea!
dlh127kor 2 weeks ago
Central Planning is awesome, let's spend money and build things so china can be look great in the eye of the people. don't worry about Hospital or school or welfare program, nobody will see it anyway. LOL.....
moistfaucet 2 weeks ago
They have the most expensive rail road in the world, have the most skyscrapers in the world, have the longest bridge in the world, i think. all they do because they want the world to witness the Quality of the Nation, but they forget to focus the Quality of the People.
moistfaucet 2 weeks ago
China and its people are the Filthiest on the planet. They spit, piss, and shit wherever they want, including on busy public streets and tourist attractions. They are also Incredibly rude and have no common sense.
TheChillMusicLounge 3 weeks ago
@TheChillMusicLounge they have small man syndrome
shanem365 3 weeks ago
@TheChillMusicLounge sounds like NYC..
chadberry75 1 week ago
Ahhh, the brilliance of central planning.
TheBalancedAmerican 4 weeks ago in playlist Featured 5
2:10 that guy isn't speaking Chinese..weird
MusicLyf4 4 weeks ago
"the government needs to intervene"
Spoken like your average brainwashed citizen.
cnrstn 1 month ago
I totally don't get how the developers of this centre didn't do their market research first!!!
BeautyEnhancements4U 1 month ago
@BeautyEnhancements4U Lolz, yeah, how they gonna earn back their investment........
mgtully 4 weeks ago
Wait so whats happening in the video??
itzMarioable 1 month ago
@itzMarioable
Basically China are demolishing poor homes and building rich homes in there place. But people cant afford these rich homes so that will cause poverty and probably a revolution and alot of bloodshed as China has a communist government and do what they like to there people because no one votes.
18T220 4 weeks ago
wait till shtf in US & we will see if the Chinese real estate is really a bubble.
wirungari 1 month ago
People that are paid
slave wages will not be able to spend money in the fashion they have here. The stupid business men that took their businesses to China might have lined their own pockets but sad when they walk around (knowing they destroyed the economy in America) and see the vacant shopping centers and businesses. I hope they realize just how they have aided and abetted the dung-headed American politicians.
goldenpassages 1 month ago
This seems nigh identical to the American problems in the housing markets-- hopefully these problems can be overcome.
BoboTalkClown 1 month ago
@BoboTalkClown - it is like the over supply that happened in the US real estate bubble except on a much much bigger scale that looks like it's going to be much much worse. The scale of and magnitude of overbuilding in china is truly amazing. Real estate prices are coming down in china at an accelerating rate with no end in sight. They're down 40% since 2009 and they're still vastly overpriced for what the people can actually afford. Yet they continue to build for GDP growth.
2011blueman 1 month ago
If you're going incorporate a little private enterprise into your system, don't pick the worst aspect of the western system; real estate speculation.
a46475 1 month ago
All western styling...no China there..LOL
IWashMyOwnBrain 1 month ago
Anyone seeing the same mobility in USA and Europe today? Workers flocking from Detroit back to hometowns during Christmas? How many % of population can afford winter holidays in say, Miami or Hawaii?
birminmin 1 month ago 2
If anyone think China's collapsing then how to explain the heavy flow of train traffic before Chinese New Year, any explaination on the mobility of the workers in the main cities? How about Hainan being so packed with travellers during winters? Yes, a lot of these ghost towns exist in towns used for housing speculations alone due to lack of jobs and infrastructures in these towns (Zhuhai, Haikou, etc) but this's Chinese issue, Western corporate media STFU, they themselves are so blood-drenched.
birminmin 1 month ago
Boreing
bwcox1975 1 month ago
@071590z stop complaining. At least you're being paid to comment here.
MaggieLeber 1 month ago
@MaggieLeber Awesome comment so true !
lilywondertwin 1 month ago
I want to tell you people how to deal with fakers and complete rumour mongers
1. Ask them questions.
2. Ask them to back up with evidence and sources.
3. If you have friends in China, ask them yourself
4. Look at all the comments of this video, you will find many of those fakers who completely don't know the issues but hell bent on smearing China
5. Remember how people say China will collapse in 1949, 1978, 1989
6. Before you talk on Internet, at least know your stuff
7. Last comment
071590z 1 month ago
@071590z Hello China government boy!
Dannie92 1 month ago
@071590z Hey retard, Chinese housing bubble is real. Get over it.
tjohn1986 1 month ago 6
@071590z this video is asking local people questions...like WHY DO THEY HAVE TO CAST OFF THEIR CHILD TO THEIR PARENTS AND SEE THAT CHILD ONCE A YEAR??? That is not a great way to live you get out of your fantasy land.
lilywondertwin 1 month ago
@071590z Remember when China was backward as Pakistan and 100% agricultural everyone was calling China 'yellow dogs and pigs/ East Asia sick men'. No matter what changes occur there's always something western corporate medias try to pick on.
birminmin 1 month ago
@071590z It's not going to collapse with a command economy. Collapse or recession indicates the market reallocating goods and recovering. If the government keeps prices high for vacant housing, people won't buy it. Eventually if they lower the prices people will buy it, but overall it would be at a net loss because these things were built arbitrarily rather than out of demand.
SecondAgeOfReason 2 weeks ago
@071590z you fucking dumbass
popingamom 1 week ago
GDP is a pointless number wake up world
lilywondertwin 1 month ago
@lilywondertwin The person that needs to wake up is you and your fantasy world
What type of stuff are you reading? Why don't you back up with sources and evidence?
It is very bad to insult China with bias bs
071590z 1 month ago
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Why don't they just give the damn things away rather than let them rot when there are so many peasants in China living in huts? China has the worst of both worlds (communism and capitalism), the poverty produced by communism and the overproduction caused by capitalism. Isn't it better to make use of this? At least before it was used to grow food, now it's just sitting there, unused.
christo930 1 month ago
I personally saw this in Schenzen. I’m not saying Szhenzen was a ghost town but there were way too many of these, enormous buildings that you could see the sun right through them with nothing inside. No cars, no people walking in and out, no delivery vehicles etc I commented at the time it was like a Potemkin village along the highway, like a façade. In Zhuhai, I walked down several blocks of restaurants where there was not a single customer. I ate at places where I was the only one.
LocumRex 1 month ago
Having said that, I found my time there amazing and the people so kind, polite and accommodating. I was shocked. People were actually exited to see us and so helpful and curious, a little Chinese girl dragged her mother to us to try her English on me. I have never seen such overenthusiastic service & happy curiosity. I thought they would hate me and America in general (like France) but it was the polar opposite. It was so strange. You simply must go and visit. You'll love it there.
LocumRex 1 month ago
This City is saved forthe future :)
Judeschwein88 1 month ago
i had no work today and watched a video that caught my eye about china and Iran and in the comments below was everyone hating on America. Curious i went to other china and America videos and the same thing. I have no doubt in my mind china is doing cyber propaganda against America on you tube on a incredible mass scale.
uberpacman02 1 month ago
@uberpacman02 Funded by Russia , go to the RussiaToday Channel and you'll see. While China is building up , Russia funds the propaganda against Americans.
TheHtjohn 1 month ago
@TheHtjohn i new it i hope my other fellow Americans can smell there bs i smelled it from a mile away lol
uberpacman02 1 month ago
@MrPeace2mind Constant warfare there were civil wars among lords, thousands? no maybe a few hundred, and tribalism that IS a complete and utter lie. Maybe in the real early days but not thousands of years.
KyleClarkUSA 1 month ago
Millions of empty apartments in China, more than a million foreclosed empty houses in America...I know I am naive and idealistic about this, but just seems maddening when there are also millions of homeless all over the world. After one look at this planet any visitor from outer space would say 'I want to see the manager.' Capitalism, Socialism, whatever, it's just human incompetence that ruins any effort to create an 'efficient' society. Maybe we are making slow progress from the middle ages
donkeykongnumber9 1 month ago
In one to two years the "ghost" city would be filled with people.
HanZeroon 1 month ago
@HanZeroon people wont move in, the average person in china makes $3,000 (dollar converted) and the average u.s person makes $50,000. on a salary of 50,000 you would still have trouble to move into a nice brand new city
MattMan276hemi 1 month ago
@MattMan276hemi it's defferent around the cost line of China, people there're rich. If you know anothing about China than you would know that there're tones of Chinese that are trying to get into urban areas, and mark my word, there're going to be tones of people in that part soon, but sadly by then CNN wouldn't even want to show you guys how China really is like :( i feel sad about how Americans are mostly brainwashed.
HanZeroon 1 month ago
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MattMan276hemi 1 month ago
@HanZeroon I'm sorry but no one is going to take you seriously if you cant spell to save your life, So you really think America is brain washed, that makes me laugh when you compare us to china owner of the worlds most protected and censored Internet, lets not forget in recent news the banning of popular shows just because they are an influence of American culture,new generation china can't get enough of it,but the Chinese government doesn't want it because it gives them.....
MattMan276hemi 1 month ago
@MattMan276hemi ....blocked of from the rest of your own country, talk about brainwashed, china will fall it they may think they are rising up now but thats only because they are having an industrial revolution like America 100 years ago, only this time their is no demand for it( as you have seen in the video) china is ready for the modern world. what the modern country need is to be innovative and free, china doesn't have any of that and America does.
MattMan276hemi 1 month ago
@HanZeroon ...the idea of freedom and rights , and no i don't sit in front of the news every day waiting for them to tell me what to think. i actually went to china 2 years back and requested the most traditional area with no urban fast life and no western culture,and thats what they gave me.i lived with a family their for 3 weeks in a small 2 room house with the only thing to brag about was the fact that it had running water. im sure you live on the cost line in an urban life...
MattMan276hemi 1 month ago
i refute your refusal
12valvepower1 1 month ago
Look, to maintain artificially high GDP, the Chinese government is constructing buildings that do not have buyer, where the money comes from, then? From somewhere has to come! If this is true, one day the buildings will have to reach its actual value, market, with falling prices. Otherwise, does not hold.
Ffenrirr 2 months ago
@Ffenrirr The money comes form fractional reserve lending. Google it.
FUNBOY1377 1 month ago
@MrPeace2mindWere the hell is your facts that is a complete lie.
KyleClarkUSA 2 months ago
The newest Section 8 projects
MichaeljRichter 2 months ago
just turn em into the most bad assed projects in the world. problem solved. You're welcome china...
a2r1v1i2s 2 months ago
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Since 1999 it has been brutally persecuted by the CCP in China. People are being killed, tortured, put into concentration camps and have organs harvested from live people, simply because of their belief. More than 3400 Falun Gong practitioners have died at the hands of CCP in the past 12 years.
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Xiaolian7 2 months ago
I don´t believe in jorneymanpictures because he made a sensationalized and extremely biased documentary about Brazil.
radiovaral2 2 months ago
@radiovaral2 On the other hand, he was right of saying that the favelas were in a civil war. But he was extremely exagerated when he attempt to convince that Brazil is a enormous favela in civil war. That´s pure sensationalism.
radiovaral2 2 months ago
I suppose the video itself is evidence enough to claim that it is indeed a Ghost City. Well, for a communist government, that sure is one pretty clean city. The thing is, there's pretty much less people in it. LOL! And there are even clusters of 'white elephants'. Someone occupy them please!
AmandilLopez 2 months ago
Reminds me of the abandoned cities of the USSR. Both communist what a coincidence.
Seapaddler 2 months ago
@Seapaddler
should i guide you detroit video??
gizelbelcoot 2 months ago
occupy Beijing!
bloodandwinearered 2 months ago
@bloodandwinearered lol fucken ayy
h2gobro 2 months ago
300k and smog in your view... anyone buying? lol
VietIs250 2 months ago
China is experiencing what the U.S. had in the early 90's. Developers overbuilt, and there were no buyers. The banks collapsed under the unpaid loans.
captainalbator 2 months ago 3
The funny thing is, is that the Yanks have paid for these cities. China does hold 3-4 trillion of American bonds afterall.
As long as the yanks keep buying McDonalds toys china will keep building cities.
Everyone is then happy.... (Meal)
stewerts62 2 months ago
@stewerts62 You mean $1.2 Trillion, right?
Kanoki989 3 weeks ago
China is trying to keep building at any price their goal to destroy US manufacturing
and economy.
Wheelie9341 2 months ago
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China is becoming the next North Korea..
Empty Cities and no people.
forgottenmemories63 2 months ago
perfect spot for paintball/soft gun fights!
ballelort87 2 months ago 2
中国就这样，为了迎合未来的发展吧！存在的东西必定有其存在的道理
Criminal110s 2 months ago
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1. People are just jealous, people have been predicting China's fall since 1949, what happens?
2. Do you know what is Urbanization? People are moving from the villages to the cities
3. Please Wikipedia search: Zhengzhou and Henan, you will know these places are the most populated areas in China
4. He said there are 64 million "EMPTY APARTMENTS", may I ask what he has to PROVE HIS CLAIM
5. China has state owned media AND OTHER MEDIA as well, we can see BBC, CNN so do you homework 1st, HATERS
071590z 2 months ago 9
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@071590z Can you please explain how they the reporters are HATING on China, because they are only commenting on how bad the housing crisis is in China. Secondly, no one has predicted China's downfall since the 1949, in fact many investors and analysts predicted China as the next big market during the 1980s alongside with India. Please stop being so defensive every country has its problems do not attack reporters WHO REPORT PROBLEMS because that is what they are supposed to do!
Cartolo101 2 months ago
@Cartolo101 I make my arguments and points, I REFUTE ALL THE VIDEOS POINTS, so if you think you are BLOODY RIGHT, try and refute me and STOP FARTING BIASNESS
Thank you (and I dare you to refute them) We are ADULTS, debates should be based on facts and evidence
Loser
071590z 2 months ago 19
@071590z go buy some real estate in china then.
Deidgar 2 months ago
@Deidgar don't change topics, refute my points if you can, second thing is that people in China want property prices to drop so that we can buy them, high property prices which young people cannot buy homes and establish families are bad for society, oh gosh, it seems I am talking simple economics to eskimos.
071590z 2 months ago
@071590z
U do realise that a property bust in China could have implict consequences on the world economy ??? no ones wants china to fail; if that happens, the rest of the world will feel the pinch as well. It's better to highlight the painful truth now, so that steps could be taken to avoid an upcoming economic depression.
You spoke of urbanization but fail to understand that a fair chunk of the chinese populace are too poor to ever afford a consumerist lifestyle.
melvinthedeathless 2 months ago
@melvinthedeathless 1. Did you refute my points? No you didn't and don't change topics
2. China will NOT HAVE A PROPERTY BUST because the central government is attacking property prices and it is dropping
3. People in China is happy and wants the prices to drop further (PLEASE GO AND ASK YOUR CHINESE FRIENDS if you have any)
4. Everyone is aware that China's economy if collapse will have a major implications on the world
5. China's poverty rate has drop to 120 million from 750 million in 1978
071590z 2 months ago
@melvinthedeathless This video is NOTHING NEW
Please check China ghost cities on Youtube search and you can find videos dating back to 2008
Goggle search and you can find it dates back to the early 2000s
I am not defending anyone, but I hope people debate with evidence and facts
Henan is a small province in China and it alones have 100 million people WIKIPEDIA search
And you believe ghost city in Zhengzhou? Zhengzhou is the capital of Henan
My god wikipedia, youtube are good research tools
071590z 2 months ago
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@071590z Are there a lot of squatters in these "ghost" cities? I mean, who's to stop a Chinese family from moving into one of these places? I can't imagine there are too many police men around to stop them.
christo930 1 month ago
@christo930 6. "Why don't they give the damn things away?" --- I have said already === urbanization --- things are built for a reason --- people will eventually move in
7. The government are now bringing down property prices so common people after working for 20 years can afford a home
8. Why don't busybodies in West give up their homes to the Occupied Wall Street?
9. How many of you seriously believe that China has 64 million empty apartments?
10. Revisit this video every 3 months LOL
071590z 1 month ago 2
@071590z I believe they have 60+ million... Ive done research for a grad course that suggests there could be even more...
spurksterly 2 weeks ago
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@071590z fuck china
rp1dmc 1 month ago
@071590z you are not getting the point. China is indulging in massive infrastructure projects when there is no demand. That kind of forced GDP expansion will not sustain itself.
TejasM14 1 month ago
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@071590z Don't you think it's better to give the peasants a place to live than to see these perfectly good apartments fall into disrepair because nobody lives there? Don't the Chinese people deserve some of the fruits of their hard labor? Chinese people worked very hard to build China into what it is today, and yet so many Chinese people are suffering. The Chinese DESERVE better.
christo930 1 month ago
@christo930 1. Please refute my points and don't change topics
2. Yes the Chinese do deserve better, THAT'S WHY THE PROPERTY PRICES ARE DROPPING SO THAT COMMON PEOPLE CAN AFFORD THEM
3. I am talking with many country people, I find them avoiding topics and evidence and not even knowing basic issues and yet can even comment on "they deserve better"
4. "So many Chinese ppl are suffering" PLEASE STATE EVIDENCE to back up
5. Our history we are bullied by other countries, we don't need busybodies
071590z 1 month ago 2
@071590z Prices are still nowhere near where the average Chinese can pay, and since they are upping the down payment as a % of the home price, the lower prices aren't helping with the down payment. A very large % of Chinese peasants are still subsistence farmers.
christo930 1 month ago
@christo930 1. Do you have Chinese friends?
2. I live in China
3. Don't avoid the topics
4. A very large percent of Chinese are subsistence farmers ---- LOL --- Please do provide evidence to back you up
5. Do you even been to China? Do you know what is migrant workers
6. Come on you don't know anything, you try to shift topics up and down
7. What I am saying is that this video is biased and distorting the facts and I AM STILL DEMANDING EVIDENCE THAT THE REPORTER GET 64 MILLION EMPTY APARTMENTS
071590z 1 month ago
@071590z China is roughly the same size as the US, I live on the east coast of the US, and I would NEVER under any circumstance take philadelphia and what I know about philadelphia and superimpose it on the US in general. Living in China doesn't make you an expert on China. If you want to talk about YOUR specific small area of China, then give it a go, otherwise, STFU.
christo930 1 month ago
@071590z EVidence is hard to find when China will not allow things to be photographed freely or their people are monitored so heavily they cannot go on the internet properly.
lilywondertwin 1 month ago
@071590z I have Chinese friends one was the con of a poet who was murdered nice
lilywondertwin 1 month ago
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@christo930 11. Go and learn modern Chinese history
12. You people have the cheek to lecture Chinese, Asians and Africans on human rights and what
13. Why don't you Westerners pay reparations for 200 years of exploitation of China?
14. You will damn hope China property collaspe
15. Go and pray hard and revisit this video every 3 months
16. You will find it hard to hold back your tears and bitterness because despite evidence and facts, you believe this BS
071590z 1 month ago 9
@071590z so let me get this straight...you are basically excusing the evil of one nation by pointing out the evil in another...hmmm ...that's some logic you got there...
illuminatiperspectiv 1 month ago 2
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@071590z
"Why don't you Westerners pay reparations for 200 years of exploitation of China?"
Because you signed agreements. To the Chinese if a negotiation has any benefit to the other party, it was a failure and weakness of the Chinese to prevent this. This is not normal on this planet - business negotiations have two parties who benefit.
Only the Chinese think that is wrong.
Going to pay reparations for the Black Plague anytime soon?
No? Chinese killed 200M by germs.
I didn't think so.
Knepperify1 3 weeks ago
@071590z
"Go and learn modern Chinese history"
Which parts? The parts where the Chinese are perpetual victims and never wrong?
Or the parts where your heroes kill and eat the hearts of the Laowai - in the 20th Century?
That's not something you want to be proud of..
"Kansu Braves then ripped the skin off the Baron and ate his heart..."
That was in 1900. The 20th Century.
Chinese are no better than anyone else.
Knepperify1 3 weeks ago
@071590z So it was every western country that exploited China? Grow up.
Does that mean the West can blame China for the Middle Eastern Empires like the Ottomans in Europe? Or perhaps Mongolia?
You're a complete moron.
Kanoki989 3 weeks ago
@071590z Oh yes People are moving to these places not of their own freewill---- poeple want to leave a home where they raised their own food to begin stuck up in a terrace apartments. People in Mexico are poor as shit and they live in houses nto apartments because no one wants that they want LAND -- your worth of a person can be manipulated by how you use your land. And China "moved" all the people out Tibet to make one of these cities as well..
lilywondertwin 1 month ago
@lilywondertwin Come on man, where do you get this information that people are moving to this places by force???????? PLEASE CITE EVIDENCE
YOU BELIEVE THAT CHINA IS MOVING PEOPLE OUT OF TIBET TO MAKE THOSE CITIES
THEN YOU WILL BELIEVE ANYTHING
What is wrong with you people?????? Where do you read your news, media and stuff?
In China, we talk and back with evidence NOT HEARSAY or RUMOURS or COMPLETE FABRICATION
I am sick of replying to non issues
071590z 1 month ago
@071590z Oh really why are monks killing themselves??? A dire sin to the Buddhist faith? You live in China ?? Do you have to share water like the people in this video?
I live in America and I see that a lot of people have stopped shopping at Wallmart -- so nice that is what your economy is built on cheap crap going into the landfill where is the pride?
lilywondertwin 1 month ago
the government is keeping them empty on purpose by leeping the price on them high
DrLsw 2 months ago
when disaster happens to one of their cities they have somewhere to go. a fresh new city un destroyed
DrLsw 2 months ago
What a waste.
ctweebee 2 months ago
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ZombiedustXXX 2 months ago
fucking chink
kwonneon 2 months ago
@kwonneon fucking racist
simoninsingapore 2 months ago
These empty spaces are claiming the aborted babies. They should be alive and living there.
MrTonyHenrique 3 months ago
This makes me SICK to my stomach!
realdon99 3 months ago
The Chinese will pay a very heavy price for not embracing true democracy !
naybobdenod 3 months ago
I bet Chinese people with social anxiety are like "yis I go live deyr"
Road2Zionman 3 months ago
China is preparing for a shit storm? 2012 anyone haha?
liamdudeeee 3 months ago
Streetracing dreams can become realities there... Too bad the US doesnt do a couple small areas.
tru2nrtt777 3 months ago
half life 2 anyone?
jooodsdssdd 3 months ago
basic communist motto, since its founding has always been "quantity over quality" - as stalin has said, there is quantity is a quality in itself.
dominion88 3 months ago
Go look las vegas Lakes properties lol 750k studios, now $20k!
superhawkn 3 months ago
$300,000 for that small apartment?
TheEternity425 3 months ago
This isn't right what the yells going on with this nuts
jazzaste123 3 months ago
What about the rapid urbanization of china by 2025 they are planned to have 221 cities with over a million people. do you not think they might be planning for the future
n1234ick 3 months ago
What an insane bubble. All the fools who think China will become the economic engine or the world are in for a big come uppance. I remember the '80s, when Japan was going to become the world's new economic super power. Now the PRC is being cast in that role. What worries me most is the PRC's "investment" in arms. There is only one way to recoup such an investment, by using it to steal the assets of other weaker countries.
VictorLepanto 3 months ago
This is all part of the new world order agenda.
Countries are not separate, as they are all ran by the same small group of elites.
Over building properties is the first stage of destroying an economy.
All economies must collapse first in order to convert to a global currency, and then soon after a one world dictatorial government.
Get ready for life to completely change kids!
P.S. -- to all the people that think the new world order is a crazy fake conspiracy, get ready to blow me!
WONDOCTORJ 3 months ago
Would be a great place to explore....
BudgieFace1 3 months ago
the so-called once a socialist republic had turned to a capitalist, where rich people will get more rich and poor people will get poorer...
phukemonster 3 months ago
Good locations for the 'Chinese Occupy demonstrations' . Plenty room for that.
poes3000 3 months ago 2
China is going to collapse.!!!!!
Long term, they are in much worse shape than Europe...
TheChristianRight09 3 months ago
@powerofthroughts China built those cities not because they are jealous but because they care for their people the same way loving parents can foreseen danger and make preparations, unlike your country has prepaired NOTHING FOR YOU nor your family
Sandra66237 3 months ago
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@Sandra66237 "they care for their people the same way loving parents can foreseen danger and make preparations" LMFAO if that's what you think about the chinese government... you are oh so horribly wrong...
saviorpants 3 months ago
@powerofthroughts,
a person whom talks like this has poor thinking, were not the europeans that were envy of the rest of the world? europe was poor, stinking and full of disgrace when they thought they had to go and STEAL from the other continents, AFRICA , AMERICA AND INDIA? They established themselves in the lands of OTHERS raping, killing and destroying the lifes of the natives of these lands. You must be full of hate, hate is a result of IGNORANCE.
Sandra66237 3 months ago
I would walk around naked 24/7 in that empty city.
wtf0804 3 months ago
Real estate prices in some cities recently fell 30-50% in ONE MONTH! Now that's an opportunity. My message to China: Don't interfere with the market Chinese gov't, but I'm afraid you will try. Allow price discovery find the proper market price.
EconCat88 3 months ago
... so what?
rampike74 3 months ago
It was being built
charlie19940725 3 months ago
We should stand together as one and if we fight we should only fight the governments
Sandra66237 3 months ago
quite naive aren't you GREAT AMERICAN'S..... the chinese are prepared to shelter theyr people with this coming war and earth changes...so who is stupid now???? who laughs last????????? you know... although I had to flee out of my country so that the usa could steal our oil on their terms, I feel for the american people, because you guys have been a victim just like the rest of the world..... so peace!
It is not ok to think yourselves better than others...................
Sandra66237 3 months ago
@Sandra66237 but it's okay for you to judge us. hypocrite. You're so stupid, also. Like really, really, really stupid.
How are those houses/skyscrapers supposed to shelter people from nukes and other missiles.... so who is stupid now?
Zooligable 3 months ago
@Zooligable Did you really read what I wrote??? No need to call people names... I said : I feel for the american people,.... so peace! I turn to you the other cheek
Sandra66237 3 months ago
@Sandra66237 when the coastal cities get wiped out by mega-tsunamis, they will be glad to have this gigantic ghost city
liftedview 3 months ago
I feel so deeply for the average chinese worker.. boy are they ever getting a bum deal..
sgdeluxedoc 3 months ago
Check out the fruits at 7:09 :D
funcounting 3 months ago
So China will go under and take the US with it... The Russia will become nuclear Britian will strike first because of America and then we're all fucked.....
openmindedozzie 4 months ago
Such waste....
openmindedozzie 4 months ago
China GDP is rigged. USA send $300B per year to China. This video tells truth.
InvestOffshore 4 months ago
@InvestOffshore It sure does..... Its scary and true..
openmindedozzie 3 months ago
Plans that were made now held up due to government in-fighting and/or beaurocracy.
Rabilay1 4 months ago
这次外国人估计被某部给骗了，选错采访地点了，那个地方的房子已经涨了一倍了，郑州都开始限购了。他应该上内蒙古。
BruceZ520 4 months ago
@BruceZ520 喜做你的意思是在蒙古的房子？我與谷歌翻譯
Sandra66237 3 months ago
@Sandra66237 sorry，i can't understand your mean. i mean is that there are phenomenon of "Ghost Cities", not this phenomenon is not in ZhengZhou(Cities of Videos),but in Inner Mongolia(other Chinese cities).
BruceZ520 3 months ago
Very typical problem in a command economy; malinvestment and the improper allocation of resources.
It is, however, a bit silly to say the answer is to get all the people with housing issues in Shanghai and Beijing to move into these apartments; there are no jobs in the ghost cities!
disamjisa 4 months ago
While there does seem to be occupancy problems of malls and apartments in China, the specific example of this Dongguan mall is different to the economic problem. There are many malls in cities that are packed every day. This particular mall was built in a very inconvenient location with no public transport to get there. Some famous ghost cities in China were the government's failed attempt to move residents from an older city into a newer, more modern and convenient city.
jay34111 4 months ago
are you kidding me it for the rich after the earth quacks destroy the world as we know it
mwr13131 4 months ago
how come China is overpopulated then??? do they build those for their DEAD? what will happen if a devastating earthquake strikes there? what is the use of empty cities filled with old buildings??? spending without any use is very funny, almost Greek like funny.
II0samurai0II 4 months ago