I love wikileaks, after all, it's freedom of press, it they shut them off, they will be others. Just like torrents. Great work by the way, I find you so fascinating, you rock girl. Keep up the great work. Very informative, happy you make me. I work for the government, there is just so much intelligence to go around, and some of them go without it.
My dear dear Ella, so very well said, and so very sad when considering the future as well. I hope that my video on all of this didn't come off wrong, I was just trying to collect the input of the entirety of vast voices voices weighing in on all of this. My goal was to tell people to stand and stand with total awareness, my fear is the the gov. will attempt to diminish our first amendment rights based on the necessary actions made my Assange. Embrace the information and protect what we've got.
@KazukiSeirei Kaz, your vid did NOT come off as wrong at all. We all need to viligilant and weighing several sources. I stand with the madres of the 'disappeared + tortured' in Latin America. It takes great courage to do this, and several of the mothers were also killed, simply for raising their voices. None of us are probably that strong at heart...to endure all this, without taking up arms, or to seek the protection of those who do. It's a very difficult question...to say the least.
@Frosti2008 WL has published very damning documents regarding financial fraud involving European banks as well. This was way BEFORE the Apache Video. No, I don't believe, that this organization is a front.
Ah yes, SENSATIONAL! So JA has the docs, how dare he fucking PROVE what we don't choose to accept? KILL HIM! Oh, pardon me, I thought I was at a Palin rally (different theater) for a brief moment, twisted reality that I live in. I occasionally feel pretty damn good about my false perceptions. Just look at the caca-roaches swarming. How can I not be misanthropic?
The lamestream media may be calling for his head, but the same can be said of their calls for BinLadin's. Do you think the Wiki fellow really believed it when he said that 9/11 was done by "terrorists" with boxcutters? Given his level of intelligence, and knowledge, his saying that makes him suspect. Plus, I don't believe in "leaks" w/o consent/complicity of the CIA and other alphabet soup agencies. I smell a fish in this "leak"business. Distraction perhaps. IDK
@rvlqcitizen Yes, I do believe, that JA really did believe in the theory of blow-back in terms of our foreign policy. There is much truth this, and I believe it also, but regarding 9/11 he may have missed the mark, as did Chomsky. The blow back is real regardless of whether our own govt was involved in 9/11, and does not negate the theory. They may have taken advantage of the blow back, for their own ends, namely to keep the miiltary/industrial complex growing + growing. Just a thought.
Again, it is what it is we need to keep an eye on the ball and not get too distracted, this story will be remembered as but yet another too weird to not trump up.
a game indeed! my step dad, a retired 22yr special ops green beret always says "the government doesnt let you know anything they dont want you to know, and playing both sides is all part of the game". much like the bankers who fund both sides of the war. so. its all one big mind fuck game being played. i think wiki is legit, but i think the "leaked info" was meant to be leaked, even if its to slash wiki and kill them off for good. another throat slashed in free news/speech until their all dead.
Its not surpriseing that some diplomats are spying, but an order from the top in writing to do it - including DNA? If we get their DNA do we get to blackmail them all? Is everyoen collecting DNA to blackmail everyone? Will DNA "evidence" become worthless now because we know our governments are stealing it? Want someone to disappear - get their DNA? These leaks will make people think at least and if that doesn't last, then evil has won. Not yet, I think its one last line in the sand for TRUTH.
Yes I have been very Naive indeed. However I don't believe this is a too good to be true condition. I also don't believe the documents are to be down played. This really did blind side the us which I don't see as being the source of their caution, I think their real fear is what's to come.
msm against this guy? haha! Thats probably why they give this guy a voice world wide right? Come on Ella, the whole point of owning the media is that you can control the message and have people focus on issues that, ideally, will help you advance your agenda, or doesn't hurt you or your corporate friends etc.. They could ignore him and talk about MJ's previous nose that was found in someone's basement or something. There are no elusive heroes like Assange up to save the world.
@MustacheVerra The internet gave voice to wikileaks, the MSM is try to calm the sheep, which is their job. Sounds like your job too. Choose TRUTH is the message and never so crystal clear. If thats naive, then we will all see each other on some battlefield in the near future. Peace
@Bezz80 How many people do you think reeds that stuff online? Now how many do watch the msm? You should know by now how ridiculous your statement is. The msm gave him a voice globally on the msm. That is the biggest red flag you can hope for. this is fake. And we know who's behind it...
@MustacheVerra Lots of peopl. We were doing this before there was a google, Youtube, etc., where everthing was done over the phone modem at what where then called bulletin boards (which is where alot of the "good stuff" still goes on, see if you can figure it out someday) when everything was done in text and the search/collection functions for things like google were developed and stolen. There is more to the internet than one might think. Peace
@Bezz80 All the msm has to do is ignore wikileaks if it hurts the establishment, that's what the msm does. But instead they talk about it all day. How hard is it to understand they are in fact helping wikileaks? And that it's most likely what they want .
@MustacheVerra American MSM is ignoring wiki (they are reporting the trivial and call for his execution), the only reason they are reporting it at all in America is because its world wide and some of those people dont want to or cant ignore it. Not everything is about America, just be the current subject is about America. Go read what the pakastanies or turks are reporting, hell even the Russinas arn't that happy. I wonder why.
@MustacheVerra No, I don't believe so. Wikileaks took the MSM into account + put them in competition with each other. The reporting in Europe regarding wiki is NOT as slanted as it is in the US - although, this is also changing.
@MustacheVerra Sorry to disagree....but the msn could not ignore these leaks. There are too many people online who get their 'news' from alternate sources. The MSM also reported on Pinochet, not because they WANTED to, but because they were forced into it. And WL is being essentially vilified by the MSM at this point , at least here in the US. This is also a red flag, no?
@MustacheVerra No, this was too big to ignore. Sure, the MSM is gonna shape the message - but WL didn't gain prominence via the MSM, it gained prominence through alternative media FIRST, way before the Iraq + Afghan war logs were even published. In any case, I DO understand your cynicism.
the UN have always been the good guys ella. globalization does not equal the UN. people are too stupid to realize this. globalization is free trade and creating trade agreements. this is another reason why I believe Ron Paul supporters are just plain stupid. and when I'm referring to the UN, I'm not referring to John Bolton who said it wouldn't matter if the floor where the UN blew up.
the UN have always been the good guys ella. globalization does not equal the UN. people are too stupid to realize this. globalization is free trade and creating trade agreements. this is another reason why I believe Ron Paul supporters are just plain stupid.
Thanks for making this video Ella. I feel like you do, it's laughable the way they are reacting to these common, in some cases juvenile, communications like they were high level state secrets. But it's not these current communications that has everyone in such a state of panic, it's the next dump involving the banks that is the real threat, world wide. Sanders managed to get the information about the Fed loans bailout money to the banks but even he hasn't said how much to which bank.
There are many Special opp's ajents working the net; you never know who you are talking to;what imfomation you are receiving, and for what purpose. Pray for Discernment.
This is the most astute Analysis of the Julian Assange Wikileaks Matter I have seen on Youtube or MSM.
I too have heard people people say that WikiLeaks is a CIA Operation. I guess they have watched too much Bourne Identity & too little real history.
In your part 2 I commented that he should Asylum in someplace like Cuba or Iran. To be clear I'm not insinuating that he was working for them, only that as desperate measure to stay alive & out of custody his options are limited can't be choosy.
It's so ironic that people say Wikileaks works for the government. Like the US government likes and wants to be exposed, shamed & humiliated.
I've never heard of a government like that in my whole life! The ppl in gov't levels are all about Ego, and that would surely be an Ego Gone Wacko to "hire" Wikileaks. lol
It just goes to show you how there is no real investigative reporting taking place in MSM anymore. Instead they are playing the role of attack dogs against whistle blowers. Also that anybody can be discredited with the generic term terrorist when they simply speak out against the evil power behind the machine.
Ah, thank you Ella. I so needed to hear an intelligent voice tonight ;o)
I agree w/you. I think that Julian A. is kind of an attention whore, & professionally I have another opinion as well :o) about his head. However, you're absolutely right that they started very small. For what it's worth, I have friends in australia who are friends of friends of J, & they had some interesting things to say, mostly that he's an anarchist (only makes me like him more ;o)
Thank you Ella, I agree with you completely, too many people see a conspiracy in everything these days lol
Sad but True
rageunderground 1 year ago
I love wikileaks, after all, it's freedom of press, it they shut them off, they will be others. Just like torrents. Great work by the way, I find you so fascinating, you rock girl. Keep up the great work. Very informative, happy you make me. I work for the government, there is just so much intelligence to go around, and some of them go without it.
zombeepictureshow 1 year ago
My dear dear Ella, so very well said, and so very sad when considering the future as well. I hope that my video on all of this didn't come off wrong, I was just trying to collect the input of the entirety of vast voices voices weighing in on all of this. My goal was to tell people to stand and stand with total awareness, my fear is the the gov. will attempt to diminish our first amendment rights based on the necessary actions made my Assange. Embrace the information and protect what we've got.
KazukiSeirei 1 year ago
@KazukiSeirei Kaz, your vid did NOT come off as wrong at all. We all need to viligilant and weighing several sources. I stand with the madres of the 'disappeared + tortured' in Latin America. It takes great courage to do this, and several of the mothers were also killed, simply for raising their voices. None of us are probably that strong at heart...to endure all this, without taking up arms, or to seek the protection of those who do. It's a very difficult question...to say the least.
55ella2007k 1 year ago
@Frosti2008 WL has published very damning documents regarding financial fraud involving European banks as well. This was way BEFORE the Apache Video. No, I don't believe, that this organization is a front.
55ella2007k 1 year ago
Ah yes, SENSATIONAL! So JA has the docs, how dare he fucking PROVE what we don't choose to accept? KILL HIM! Oh, pardon me, I thought I was at a Palin rally (different theater) for a brief moment, twisted reality that I live in. I occasionally feel pretty damn good about my false perceptions. Just look at the caca-roaches swarming. How can I not be misanthropic?
paddedshell 1 year ago
meh, a little embarassment will do some govnt's good
rad4life1 1 year ago
A new age is appearing. Truth is being revealed through modern means of theatrics. Bringers of peace and prosperity.
Pallas Athena
carefulcarpenter 1 year ago
The lamestream media may be calling for his head, but the same can be said of their calls for BinLadin's. Do you think the Wiki fellow really believed it when he said that 9/11 was done by "terrorists" with boxcutters? Given his level of intelligence, and knowledge, his saying that makes him suspect. Plus, I don't believe in "leaks" w/o consent/complicity of the CIA and other alphabet soup agencies. I smell a fish in this "leak"business. Distraction perhaps. IDK
rvlqcitizen 1 year ago
@rvlqcitizen Yes, I do believe, that JA really did believe in the theory of blow-back in terms of our foreign policy. There is much truth this, and I believe it also, but regarding 9/11 he may have missed the mark, as did Chomsky. The blow back is real regardless of whether our own govt was involved in 9/11, and does not negate the theory. They may have taken advantage of the blow back, for their own ends, namely to keep the miiltary/industrial complex growing + growing. Just a thought.
55ella2007k 1 year ago
Again, it is what it is we need to keep an eye on the ball and not get too distracted, this story will be remembered as but yet another too weird to not trump up.
Great hearing your opinions on this ;>)
CTOL1 1 year ago
a game indeed! my step dad, a retired 22yr special ops green beret always says "the government doesnt let you know anything they dont want you to know, and playing both sides is all part of the game". much like the bankers who fund both sides of the war. so. its all one big mind fuck game being played. i think wiki is legit, but i think the "leaked info" was meant to be leaked, even if its to slash wiki and kill them off for good. another throat slashed in free news/speech until their all dead.
jakluk4 1 year ago
Ella, you are a friend of democracy. I appreciate your work.
carefulcarpenter 1 year ago 3
@carefulcarpenter Thank you. Trying my best, but not very successfully, I might add.
55ella2007k 1 year ago
"Wildfire sadness brings wildflower gladness"
"With love and compassion our true friends will tell us what we need to know; others, out of convenience, will tell us what we want to hear'
~~cc
carefulcarpenter 1 year ago
"Tell me what you see, so I know where you're at"
"Silence is the music of fascism and the anthem of tyranny"
Kevorkian
carefulcarpenter 1 year ago 3
@carefulcarpenter yes, indeed.
55ella2007k 1 year ago
Its not surpriseing that some diplomats are spying, but an order from the top in writing to do it - including DNA? If we get their DNA do we get to blackmail them all? Is everyoen collecting DNA to blackmail everyone? Will DNA "evidence" become worthless now because we know our governments are stealing it? Want someone to disappear - get their DNA? These leaks will make people think at least and if that doesn't last, then evil has won. Not yet, I think its one last line in the sand for TRUTH.
Bezz80 1 year ago
Yes I have been very Naive indeed. However I don't believe this is a too good to be true condition. I also don't believe the documents are to be down played. This really did blind side the us which I don't see as being the source of their caution, I think their real fear is what's to come.
AlphaHorizon 1 year ago
our canadian government is worried about wikileaks outing them....they are pre warning us.....something smells rotten............
TheLostinspace 1 year ago
msm against this guy? haha! Thats probably why they give this guy a voice world wide right? Come on Ella, the whole point of owning the media is that you can control the message and have people focus on issues that, ideally, will help you advance your agenda, or doesn't hurt you or your corporate friends etc.. They could ignore him and talk about MJ's previous nose that was found in someone's basement or something. There are no elusive heroes like Assange up to save the world.
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra The internet gave voice to wikileaks, the MSM is try to calm the sheep, which is their job. Sounds like your job too. Choose TRUTH is the message and never so crystal clear. If thats naive, then we will all see each other on some battlefield in the near future. Peace
Bezz80 1 year ago
@Bezz80 How many people do you think reeds that stuff online? Now how many do watch the msm? You should know by now how ridiculous your statement is. The msm gave him a voice globally on the msm. That is the biggest red flag you can hope for. this is fake. And we know who's behind it...
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra Lots of peopl. We were doing this before there was a google, Youtube, etc., where everthing was done over the phone modem at what where then called bulletin boards (which is where alot of the "good stuff" still goes on, see if you can figure it out someday) when everything was done in text and the search/collection functions for things like google were developed and stolen. There is more to the internet than one might think. Peace
Bezz80 1 year ago
@Bezz80 All the msm has to do is ignore wikileaks if it hurts the establishment, that's what the msm does. But instead they talk about it all day. How hard is it to understand they are in fact helping wikileaks? And that it's most likely what they want .
MustacheVerra 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra American MSM is ignoring wiki (they are reporting the trivial and call for his execution), the only reason they are reporting it at all in America is because its world wide and some of those people dont want to or cant ignore it. Not everything is about America, just be the current subject is about America. Go read what the pakastanies or turks are reporting, hell even the Russinas arn't that happy. I wonder why.
Bezz80 1 year ago
@Bezz80 Exactly.
55ella2007k 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra That is another reason why I smell a fish in all of this.
rvlqcitizen 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra No, I don't believe so. Wikileaks took the MSM into account + put them in competition with each other. The reporting in Europe regarding wiki is NOT as slanted as it is in the US - although, this is also changing.
55ella2007k 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra Sorry to disagree....but the msn could not ignore these leaks. There are too many people online who get their 'news' from alternate sources. The MSM also reported on Pinochet, not because they WANTED to, but because they were forced into it. And WL is being essentially vilified by the MSM at this point , at least here in the US. This is also a red flag, no?
55ella2007k 1 year ago
@MustacheVerra No, this was too big to ignore. Sure, the MSM is gonna shape the message - but WL didn't gain prominence via the MSM, it gained prominence through alternative media FIRST, way before the Iraq + Afghan war logs were even published. In any case, I DO understand your cynicism.
55ella2007k 1 year ago
the UN have always been the good guys ella. globalization does not equal the UN. people are too stupid to realize this. globalization is free trade and creating trade agreements. this is another reason why I believe Ron Paul supporters are just plain stupid. and when I'm referring to the UN, I'm not referring to John Bolton who said it wouldn't matter if the floor where the UN blew up.
LouieArrighi 1 year ago
@LouieArrighi This is true up to a point. The UN itself is also highly corrupt at this point.
55ella2007k 1 year ago
the UN have always been the good guys ella. globalization does not equal the UN. people are too stupid to realize this. globalization is free trade and creating trade agreements. this is another reason why I believe Ron Paul supporters are just plain stupid.
LouieArrighi 1 year ago
Thanks for making this video Ella. I feel like you do, it's laughable the way they are reacting to these common, in some cases juvenile, communications like they were high level state secrets. But it's not these current communications that has everyone in such a state of panic, it's the next dump involving the banks that is the real threat, world wide. Sanders managed to get the information about the Fed loans bailout money to the banks but even he hasn't said how much to which bank.
Boomer1949 1 year ago
There are many Special opp's ajents working the net; you never know who you are talking to;what imfomation you are receiving, and for what purpose. Pray for Discernment.
GreatDepressionTwo 1 year ago 3
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GreatDepressionTwo 1 year ago
Wise words Ella.
moonshadow93924 1 year ago
This is the most astute Analysis of the Julian Assange Wikileaks Matter I have seen on Youtube or MSM.
I too have heard people people say that WikiLeaks is a CIA Operation. I guess they have watched too much Bourne Identity & too little real history.
In your part 2 I commented that he should Asylum in someplace like Cuba or Iran. To be clear I'm not insinuating that he was working for them, only that as desperate measure to stay alive & out of custody his options are limited can't be choosy.
valhala56 1 year ago
@valhala56 Thanks. Yes, his options are very limited at this point. I heard Equador withdrew their request to offer him residency.
55ella2007k 1 year ago
He's going after the banksters next - red alert issued....
People's paranoia is collapsing in upon itself making it terribly difficult for them to discern anything- or think critically.
Great perspective!
CityzenJane 1 year ago
@DeleteMeOnline the internet is not...
CityzenJane 1 year ago
It's so ironic that people say Wikileaks works for the government. Like the US government likes and wants to be exposed, shamed & humiliated.
I've never heard of a government like that in my whole life! The ppl in gov't levels are all about Ego, and that would surely be an Ego Gone Wacko to "hire" Wikileaks. lol
silkcat51 1 year ago
It just goes to show you how there is no real investigative reporting taking place in MSM anymore. Instead they are playing the role of attack dogs against whistle blowers. Also that anybody can be discredited with the generic term terrorist when they simply speak out against the evil power behind the machine.
DigitalSkyline 1 year ago 2
Ah, thank you Ella. I so needed to hear an intelligent voice tonight ;o)
I agree w/you. I think that Julian A. is kind of an attention whore, & professionally I have another opinion as well :o) about his head. However, you're absolutely right that they started very small. For what it's worth, I have friends in australia who are friends of friends of J, & they had some interesting things to say, mostly that he's an anarchist (only makes me like him more ;o)
OrwellsDaughter 1 year ago
This article might interest you....
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bulldogger 1 year ago
wikileaks works for the government. !!!
chevs911truth 1 year ago 3