I was at Edmonton Oilers hockey game the night of the 100 final in soeul. After the zamboni flooded the ice a weird thing happened. Everybody in the building were on the concourse level watching TV screens of The 100m final. Even the Oilers & Oppoonents were 10 minutes late coming back to the next period because everyong was watching even the players.
What did I feel when I found out he'd taken steroids..
@RonnyUniverse lol u went to watch a hockey game?? Ur a fan? Well guess what u narrow minded child...Both teams u went to go watch are taking Some kind of a drug or another. Grow up.
And there would have been more of a backlash if Carl Lewis was caught. In Canada the country that preaches "tolerance" and "diversity"up front. Behind closed doors though Canadians are way more racist. So the bottom line is Ben Johnson was the Milli Vanilli of the track world. Make money for us but you mean nothing overall.
Ben Johnson is right" everybody cheats in life". What he meant was anybody who wants to be at the top at all costs. It's quite clear to me, he was set up because he was black in a white man's country( and am white and saying this).You think Canada would have done this to Wayne Gretzky? or Paul Henderson? no fucken way. Americans didn't sell out their superstars like this, because in America the black man is more powerful has achieved far more headway. In th US racism is more in your face...
ben johnson, stupid cheater, all he can do is cheat and then lie about it.. now he's grandfather and released a biography where he still lies about it and blames carl lewis etc.. his whole "life achievement" is running doped and lying about it .. plus he's ugly as fuck .. cheating doping lying denying .. and looking ugly .. that's all he ever can .. so endlessly pathetic ..
@StefanGentleman whats beauty gotta do with running fast???? theres no way for any of us to know the truth about ben unless we were in the lab in seoul and saw what the raw result was,........and they were all doped in that final, but again u can talk about how hes a liar all day long, unless u were the damn biochemist then u dont know anything really , same goes for al of them really, its best just to accept what the result was and take it with a pinch of salt while u r there, dont be so naive
ben used PED,s like so many other top sprinters he had no choice if he wanted to have a chance to win. there was major cover up in american track during that time and still is. if he ran for america he would not have gotten busted..
i always laugh. that "perp walk" BJ makes when he got caught, some official/publicist apparently thought they could fool the media crowd by giving him a jacket that said "Africa" on the back, LOL! Yeah, what journalist didn't know Africa is a continent, not a single country, and thus there was no "African Delegation" at the Olympic Games.
Yes he took roids,but don't get mistaken that he only ran fast due to using them,all the roids in the world won't make a slow man fast.And though he ran for Canada,he was Jamaican,which has a long line of world class sprinters,past and present.And finally,HE WASN'T THE ONLY ONE "USING",HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT GOT CAUGHT.
Look, Canadian athletes cant mess with us. But It is not just Canada no one can. Thumbs up for working the slaves for hundreds of years and everyone taking steroids to compete with their descendants.
People act Ben is a bad guy for cheating. Marion Jones was a bigger cheater than Ben, but we praise her and act like she would been star without the drugs. But how do we know. Marion was a bigger scandal than Ben, But Marion was past her prime when she got caught and it was an American getting caught vs Canadien beating an American.
Steroids are usilly used to increase performance. That Carl Lewis is a little upstart bastard why could he not keep his self quiet on Ben Johnson Lewis always looks like he is on something himself and he was not that great.
Nice, simple guy suckered by the dream. He was a fantastic 60m man without drugs anyway. It's shame people view him as they would a rapist or murderer. He's just a runner who cheated. i think he has a lot more support than the holier than thou brigade would like to accept.
Ben Johnson's quote, "everybody cheats. Why pick on Ben Johnson? I'm not the only person in this world."
With some familiarity in drug use/addiction i can definitely tell you that most of them feel the same way. they all say... but but but everybody's doing it. Even now, he does not take responsibility for his actions.
He WAS busted for winstrol not the cheque drops and other stuff he took the day of. rcaddict72 you are right he took those things, like everybody else. it isn't cheating if everyone else is doing it...just keeping up with the jones' or lewis'. he tested positive for stanozolol(winstrol) but was using furazabol and cheque drops on the day of.
They all cried foul so loudly, especially Carl Lewis. But since then 5 of the 8 have all been shown to be using PED. They ALL do. They have to, just to compete. The travesty is the way money in sport has gotten to the point where athletes are willing to die for the pot of gold.
Hypocrites like to demonise Ben Johnson. The fact is that Christie, Carl lewis, Drummond, etc all busted. Ben happened to train harder and wasn't fortunate enough to represent the US. If he had done so, then his drug use most probably would have been swept under the rug like Butch Reynolds and Lewis.
Carl lewis , Linford christie ..who were also in the 1988 olympic final have tested positive for steroids in there career.. ( You can even google this fact).. it makes me sick that ben johnson copped so much shit and the others got away and nobody really made a big deal about it..
what makes me even sicker is that the gold medal was taken from ben and given to carl lewis (another guy that was also on drugs) ..
@hfvcjndscnwfcdsnclaq ..ive said it over and over...drugs arent drugs..just like oils aint oils. ben copped it because he not only took highly androgenic drugs -orals at that, right up to the day of the comp- he also pushed the bounds that others wouldnt risk. thats why he copped it. of anyone who was cheating, he cheated the most.
@hfvcjndscnwfcdsnclaq ..oh yeah..good excuse...join the group "i dont have a clue"...if you're dumb enough to believe this you're dumb enough to believe anything. some people will try to get away with some free peanuts- others try to take the jumbo jet..then complain when they get caught.."hey, "they" were doing it too!..you all need to stop nut hugging this drug cheat.
@hfvcjndscnwfcdsnclaq ..absolute rubbish. show us the google links that show this...christie got caught using a stimulant, lewis never got caught using anything.
lewis's times barely changed from the early 1980s through to the 1990s.
im 17 and im taking stanazol,,/stanazolol,,,i workout,,and im on my cutting cycle,,,im amazed on how ben ran with so much burden,,,he chose to run the easy path,,but he paid the big price,,stanazol could really make that big big diference,,,we chose our path,,and we have to stand through it til the end
@beatlewis when ben was on stanazolol he was virtually undetectable if he dodged the trests for long enough. stanozolol is a mildly androgenic drug and highly anabolic and was the drug of choice for sprinters trying to beat the test back then. a well timed drug regimen and test advanced notice could get you off if you were using that and some other water based, low androgens. but of course, these yield the smallest results also.
@mamowolde This documentary is epic, it's so well made. Ben Johnson will always be my favorite sprinter of all time and the 100 meters final in Seoul will always be the greatest 100 meter race of all time, I dont care what anyone thinks. Thanks for this brilliant but sad uplaod.
rubbish. it wasnt stanozolol that won him that record, it was anadrol, or anapolan. i hardcore AS that even pro BB's dont like to touch. you dont think the other guys wouldve ran sub 9.8 using the cocktail of gear BJ was on? the main trait BJ exhibited was a massive imoproivement in his mid to late 20s from a so-so runner into a WR beater. nearly half a second went from his time. None of the other top guys did that- because they either werent using, or werent smashing the drugs like this moron.
You realize that Carl was running 10.5 the year before he ran 10 flat right? Everybody was on- and everybody is on. Usain Bolt went from 10 something to 9.58 in two years. Do you have anything to say about that?
plenty. but you wouldnt have a clue. first off carl didnt run 10.5 the year before..his progression was far more gradual and he didnt suddely go from also ran in his mid 20s to WR holder. bolt ran 45s 400m when he was 15..and 20.3 in the 200m and his first ever 100m he ran 10.03 after never even trained for it..plus he was in his early 20s. huge differences in context. they are not all on at all. its not a simple thing to dodge testing with retro testing..they store your blood for a decade
yeah what your saying is true but in jamaica they have a differnt testing program to alot of other countries. they do not get tested in the off season or better known in the winter season so they load up then come competition in summer, the substances woul have cleared their bodies. Ben was just unlucky because charlie was right 'do you take druga to be on a level playing field? or contend losing forever'
Jamaica is right next to america. they get tested by independant doping bodies and their national doping agencies. In the 1970's eastern European nations supplied their own athletes with HGH and steroids, men and women.
i dont follow the premise. BJ wasnt a 1 in a million in the first place, yet this video portrays him as someone with a unique gift. He was a national level athlete, but wasnt something the world hadnt seen before. In fact there were many athletes running like him, or better- even as juniors. Ben was a so-so athlete running 10.3 100m, like so many many college and other country's national level competitors. We dont see videos about them do we?
absolutely correct. Ben was a so so runner and then took loads of gear...imagine what the WR would be if they all did that?.. the women were running 47s 400s in the late 1970s and 30 years later they barely break into 48s. the 100m WR would be 9.2-9.3 now if they took gear...its just comforting to americans to think that others are cheating...because most cheats caught are american.
didnt you read the bit about anapolan?...if others were using at all, then they were using very mild gear like winstrol and getting off to beat the tests. Ben used on the actual day. the very same drug that hardcore powerlifters mix with liquid test on the day of a competition to lift 50-100lb more on the day- for just several hours in fact. the trouble is, its very easy to detect..so no athlete claiming clean would ever touch it. But Ben was unique in one way- he was an absolute dumb ass.
rubbish, look, if you're really interested in this go and read the trial transcripts dont watch a bias video and make your conclusions. Him and Charlie had a falling out and without charlie's tuteledge he was left alone and so he took winstrol and anapolan up until the day of the event. he took anapolan on the actual day. he admitted this later but on the day claimed his drink was spiked and that hed taken nothing. his drug regime was heavy for a bodybuilder..let alone a track athlete.
@rjdiscus ...wish i knew now...i read them at the time....theyd have to be on the net somewhere...or ask for them from the courts if you're that keen.
furthermore if you watch the races prior to the olympics you'd see that Ben "threw" those races. he was killing the field in 2 races prior and then all of a sudden stopped like he had brakes on. He was worried about getting busted prior to the olympics. no one, even ben, slows that much. it was very suspicious. the year prior he showed virtually no slowing down when he ran his 9.83. If you believe that he's a legend thats fine..you do that. he's just a major dumb cheat to me.
@turnbacktime nah, the anabolic, mildly androgenic roids can be out in as little as a week. thats why stanazolol was favoured by sprinters. the thing with those types though- they give very mild gains- enough to take someone from maybe 10.1 to a sub 10 over time. BUT, anapolan packs on muscle...many gain several kilos per week for several weeks on it and it gives immense strength gains very quickly. the problem is that it hangs around for ages, and essentially destroys your liver.
@rcaddict72 The more toxic the drug the more severe the health issues will be and the easier it is to trace. As of today Ben has no medical issues. what was the purpose of your post? it just proves that he wasnt on any strong androgenic steroids.
Ben specialised in the 100m only, he didnt even attempt to run 200m in training. This guy wasnt strong over night. Even with steroids it took time and a lot of power specific training to achieve what he did.
@turnbacktime are you serious?its clear that you have a rudimentary knowledge of steroids ... accept that you dont have the background to argue about these substances and move on. plenty of people have abused steroids in much larger dosages than ben ever did and have lived long and hassle free lives. just because ben has no effects now is no proof to back up your argument, ..toxicity? these substances arent toxic at all...they are hormones and the mechanism of delivery is what is dominant.
I thought your username was familiar than I realised you were the idiot I was arguing with over 2months ago, I've now noticed that you've been arguing with just about everyone posting their opinions on this video. LOL. what makes your dumb argument even more confusing is the fact that you contradict yourself on the issue of steroids, and know nothing about the training methods for sprinters. we already know the exact steroids Ben was taking, its well documented.. just move on with your life.
@turnbacktime thats because morons like yourself are a dime a dozen on youtube. instead of posting intelligent arguments you and the other fools make stupid statements that are nothing but lame comments without any understanding of the actual topic. and when it gets to the point where you have absolutely nothing to say you either look up my profile and make a smart ass comment or throw in some other insult. that is the way of the unintelligent, of which there are many unfortunately.
@turnbacktime ..PS my final year university thesis is good enough proof that i know a bit about this subject..and im secure enough to realise that i know more than youll ever be able to even comprehend about both training and enhancements. ironic how you tell me to move along. basically it shits me to tears how morons argue on YT and i feel some need to school them- like ive done with you and others like you. i must admit that it gets old when your thick heads still insist on grasping at straws
You had the time to argue with everyone else because it took you all that time to come up with a response to a question I didnt even ask, or one you already responded to. Now you're getting upset because I dont give a fuck about your thoughts on steroids and your obvious obsession with Ben Johnson which is making me really uncomfortable right now.
Wow.. you telling me about your final year thesis is all the proof I need. Lets disregard facts, evidence, logic and common sense... PS, you're dumb.
@rcaddict72 i think i owe you an apology for the little argument we had last year. Ben Johnson really is a scrub. No one who takes roids should be respected at all.
but i only believe he took the steroids that he was caught taking.
@rcaddict72 If you really think that he is the only one who took steroids...if you think that Carl Lewis, Michael Johnson, Linford Christie, Donavan Bailey, Asafa Powell, Usain Bolt and all the other were and are clean you are dilusional!! Everybody at that level takes drugs! It's not possible to run like that naturally....wake up!!! Ben Johnson is nothing but a scape goat
@mttm06 Ben was the "ONLY" runner on steroids in this race. Drug testing is so advanced now, more sprinters were caught roiding in Beijing than any other olympic game. You probably werent aware of the sprinters who were banned for roiding in beijing because they were european. Also the entire Greek and Slovakian weight lifting team were banned for taking steroids that they believe were mistaken for "chinese vitamins".
@rcaddict72 About the races prior to Olympics, if you are talking about Zurich where he was third behind Lewis and Smith, two months prior to that race Ben had a hamstring injury (in May) and replaced his speed work in training with weight room. He came into the race heavier and stiff. He had a good start but the lack of race training was evident in the top speed (after about 50-60m). Even without that, do you even understand the concept of peak in sports? Obviously not. Dumbass.
@paweng1 we know which drugs Johnson used and it wasnt anopolan, there is no such drug called "anopolan" maybe he meant Anapolon. Please ignore this troll.
guys today on thg, hgh, testosterone and other roids cant even break 9.90.
@rcaddict72 Ben Johnson failed for stanozolol, also known as Winstrol, the "very mild gear" you mentioned. He didn't use some "hardcore drug", they (Charlie Francis athletes) used furazabol, a stanozolol derivative, because stanozolol made them too tight.How he tested positive for stanozolol is still unknown.And he didn't use it on the actual day, that's nonsense. Charlie Francis was very educated about the use and they were very careful about the clearance periods. The only dumb ass here is you
6 athletes tested positive for steroids in seoul, Ben must have been special to an extent to run the times that he did.
lets look at his weightlifting stats. Ben weighed 80kg, he could squat 300kg for 6reps x 4sets (he never maxed). He could bench press 220kg and deadlift 400kg, even with drugs these are good achievements.
@turnbacktime ..you obviously havent read what has been said. "steroids" arent just one type of drug. there are many different ones ranging from highly anabolic to highly androgenic. most athletes who try to cheat use water based, high anabolic and low androgenic types that are out of the system quickly but also have very low performance enhancing properties. Ben used some of the more hardcore- many bodybuilders wont even touch them. massive strength and performance improvements within hours.
Testing has vastly improved since then, any anabolic steroid can be traced almost a year after its initial use now.
When I say squats, I mean ass touching the ground pause at the bottom then lift, with technique. Same with his bench press. People witnessed this. Bear in mind that he never maxed. This at 80kg. The world record wasnt set by somone weighing 80kg with virtually no bodyfat. Theres no such thing as a hardcore steroid body-builders wouldnt touch. We all know what ben was taking.
@turnbacktime ..rubbish... abuot any being able to be tested for up to a year. again it depends on what kind was used, the ratio of androgens, the medium it comes in, the mechanism it acts as. the WR i posted is for an 80kg person. and there are steroids that even hardcore BBs even try to stay away from. many just so no to anapolan, pure test (susp), and other kidney destroying hormones. they maximise anabolic response and minimise androgens.
@turnbacktime ..colin jackson, the hurdler, has very similar weights achievements to that. we are talking elite athletes here. keep in mind that asafa powell runs quicker than ben ever did and struggles to bench 200lb....to put it in perspective, the 600lb x 6 reps x4 sets are not full range powerlifting squats- neither is the bench or deadlift.. the WR squat is 930lbs. ..and 100s have done 700lb. so lets not go all ga ga and gooey.
lol, Colin Jackson does not have similar weight achievements to Ben. Yes asafa runs quicker than Ben whats your point? Ben was far more explosive coming out of the blocks than asafa.
@turnbacktime ..2 points. that ben wasnt anything so special in the first place, and gained strength because he used the more powerful steroids around. drug free athletes have similar performances, and ben was an also ran before he dosed up. give any top 50 sprinter what ben took and you'd be nut hugging them also
naturally he could run sub 10 anyway which most athletes can not do, he was a top 10 sprinter at the time before he took steroids so please get your facts right.
Dwain Chambers and Linford christie were taking even stronger drugs, regarless even they couldnt ran as fast as Ben. Ben was abnormally strong because he was hyper responsive to AAS's which most people are not.
many powerlifters and olympic weightlifters are on roids. How many at 80kg could outlift ben (a sprinter)...?... exactly.
@turnbacktime ..he never ran close to 10 seconds without drugs. he was a 10.20 runner at best. where do you get your data from?!. Dwain and Linford did not take anywhere near the strength of drugs Ben was taking. like i said, ben was a dumb ass who blew it when he decided to go it alone. seriously dude you dont have a clue. im done with you.
Dwaine admitted to taking, nandrolone, human growth hormone, testosterone, ephedrine and many other performance enhancers. Not once have you named the type of AAS's Ben was taking because you "dont" know what the fuck you're talking about. he was on Furazabol and Stanazol which were and still are widely used.
@turnbacktime you should read my earlier posts mate. none of those AAS's are same class as anapolan, or anadrol. it is you who doesnt know what you are talking about...what is "testosterone"?...there are many forms of test and its efficacy depends highly on it. some are short acting, some long, some water based and so on. ive already mentioned the stana, and the anapolan in earlier posts imbicile...still doesnt change the fact that ben was a 10.2 runner before he cheated. your idol is a cheat.
why say you're done with me then reply back? what the fuck are you talking about? who took anapolan or anadrol? Why the fuck should I read your earlier posts when it was you responding to me?
Typical bogan Australian making up things she knows nothing about (dont even deny you're a woman)?
Johnson isnt even one of my favourite 100m runners. A personal friend of mine by the name of Yohan blake and Usain B are, regardless 6 athletes tested positiv in Seoul, therefore his win was legit.
@turnbacktime ..woman?..rofl.. u are such a simpleton. say hi to yohan for me...not that i give a shit really...just funny you mentioned it as it has nothing to do with this. and ben took anadrol/anapolan..thats how he got busted dipshit.
lol Ben has never taken anadrol or anapol you idiot. The entire world knows what he took yet you're still in denial. say hi to Yohan yourself /watch?v=si2TI64bO6U
@turnbacktime ..whatever you reckon ...if you bothered to read the transcripts you'd know im right...you're just arguing for the sake of arguing without knowing anything about steroids or the facts. you and ben could be friends.
@rcaddict72 Carl Lewis was using steroids to shatter records, are you going to make the same trite argument against him? No, you're just another misinformed person ranting against steroids. Sprinting is steroids, it has been since the 70's and always will be.
He's the greatest athlete that ever lived!! I hope to see him in 2012 Olympics!!
Chessboy 1 week ago
He`s about 50 now mate. I doubt he could even run under 12 secs now.
paweng1 1 week ago
@Chessboy are you trolling?
Dreadedaries 6 days ago
I was at Edmonton Oilers hockey game the night of the 100 final in soeul. After the zamboni flooded the ice a weird thing happened. Everybody in the building were on the concourse level watching TV screens of The 100m final. Even the Oilers & Oppoonents were 10 minutes late coming back to the next period because everyong was watching even the players.
What did I feel when I found out he'd taken steroids..
One Word: BETRAYED
RonnyUniverse 1 month ago
@RonnyUniverse lol u went to watch a hockey game?? Ur a fan? Well guess what u narrow minded child...Both teams u went to go watch are taking Some kind of a drug or another. Grow up.
TEMUJINARTS 1 week ago
DID U WATCH THE 1ST COUPLE MINUTES.
What an arrogant little shit... everybody cheats on there taxes..lol what a loser
RonnyUniverse 1 month ago
And there would have been more of a backlash if Carl Lewis was caught. In Canada the country that preaches "tolerance" and "diversity"up front. Behind closed doors though Canadians are way more racist. So the bottom line is Ben Johnson was the Milli Vanilli of the track world. Make money for us but you mean nothing overall.
sakusia 2 months ago
Ben Johnson is right" everybody cheats in life". What he meant was anybody who wants to be at the top at all costs. It's quite clear to me, he was set up because he was black in a white man's country( and am white and saying this).You think Canada would have done this to Wayne Gretzky? or Paul Henderson? no fucken way. Americans didn't sell out their superstars like this, because in America the black man is more powerful has achieved far more headway. In th US racism is more in your face...
sakusia 2 months ago
@sakusia I've got one word to sum up your analyses SAKUSIA and the word is ASSHOLE
RonnyUniverse 1 month ago
One dislike? I think Carl Lewis was here.
jmcfan11 3 months ago
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They all use it, he was the unlucky one.
TheeUnstoppableOne 4 months ago
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TheeUnstoppableOne 4 months ago
ben johnson, stupid cheater, all he can do is cheat and then lie about it.. now he's grandfather and released a biography where he still lies about it and blames carl lewis etc.. his whole "life achievement" is running doped and lying about it .. plus he's ugly as fuck .. cheating doping lying denying .. and looking ugly .. that's all he ever can .. so endlessly pathetic ..
StefanGentleman 4 months ago
@StefanGentleman whats beauty gotta do with running fast???? theres no way for any of us to know the truth about ben unless we were in the lab in seoul and saw what the raw result was,........and they were all doped in that final, but again u can talk about how hes a liar all day long, unless u were the damn biochemist then u dont know anything really , same goes for al of them really, its best just to accept what the result was and take it with a pinch of salt while u r there, dont be so naive
sciencestudent342 4 months ago
@StefanGentleman every single athlete in that race was subsequently caught for doping.The majority of elite athletes doped at that time.
scarred10 3 months ago
ben used PED,s like so many other top sprinters he had no choice if he wanted to have a chance to win. there was major cover up in american track during that time and still is. if he ran for america he would not have gotten busted..
jasscaff 5 months ago
jamaica produce the fastest guys in the world
GodsSaint6 5 months ago
thats radiohead in the background
Kotakai 5 months ago
Now kids will only run to the xbox 360
supersayanhulk 6 months ago
@phastman99 - Ben Johnson will always be remembered, hehe, now that's a fact. Maybe not the way you want him to be remembered though.
Sacriphyx 6 months ago
i know sam one called ben he is 17 and he run in 10.2 i run in 11.44
koolboy276 6 months ago
i always laugh. that "perp walk" BJ makes when he got caught, some official/publicist apparently thought they could fool the media crowd by giving him a jacket that said "Africa" on the back, LOL! Yeah, what journalist didn't know Africa is a continent, not a single country, and thus there was no "African Delegation" at the Olympic Games.
htownhomie06 6 months ago
Yes he took roids,but don't get mistaken that he only ran fast due to using them,all the roids in the world won't make a slow man fast.And though he ran for Canada,he was Jamaican,which has a long line of world class sprinters,past and present.And finally,HE WASN'T THE ONLY ONE "USING",HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT GOT CAUGHT.
leecali1 6 months ago
Look, Canadian athletes cant mess with us. But It is not just Canada no one can. Thumbs up for working the slaves for hundreds of years and everyone taking steroids to compete with their descendants.
cookiegate 7 months ago
@cookiegate jamaica is clowning the US right now, so i wouldn't talk shit.
jimmyjoemonkey 1 month ago
People act Ben is a bad guy for cheating. Marion Jones was a bigger cheater than Ben, but we praise her and act like she would been star without the drugs. But how do we know. Marion was a bigger scandal than Ben, But Marion was past her prime when she got caught and it was an American getting caught vs Canadien beating an American.
blaaket123 8 months ago
Fact: Ben Johnson was caught, but CARL LEWIS GOT AWAY WITH IT...!!!
Bouhediz 1 year ago
Steroids are usilly used to increase performance. That Carl Lewis is a little upstart bastard why could he not keep his self quiet on Ben Johnson Lewis always looks like he is on something himself and he was not that great.
starlight76able 1 year ago
Nice, simple guy suckered by the dream. He was a fantastic 60m man without drugs anyway. It's shame people view him as they would a rapist or murderer. He's just a runner who cheated. i think he has a lot more support than the holier than thou brigade would like to accept.
alpacino1974ok 1 year ago
i remember watching this back in 01/02, had it on tape and lost it, thanks for putting it up!!!
Kallytom 1 year ago
lol i love how when they say "steroids" at 1:05 they show a cloud of smoke
kokoth 1 year ago
Carl Lewis on drugs at that same Olympics. Why wasn't he caught?
mkristophe 1 year ago
@mkristophe Because he was American
TheTruthMerchant 1 year ago
what's the name of the song in 7:17???
bossanova537 1 year ago
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Big Ben is the big man
Ykini 1 year ago
Big Ben is the big man
Ykini 1 year ago
A lot of ppl here need to go read speed trap.
Kanes4life 1 year ago
Ben Johnson's quote, "everybody cheats. Why pick on Ben Johnson? I'm not the only person in this world."
With some familiarity in drug use/addiction i can definitely tell you that most of them feel the same way. they all say... but but but everybody's doing it. Even now, he does not take responsibility for his actions.
captainthrall 1 year ago
He WAS busted for winstrol not the cheque drops and other stuff he took the day of. rcaddict72 you are right he took those things, like everybody else. it isn't cheating if everyone else is doing it...just keeping up with the jones' or lewis'. he tested positive for stanozolol(winstrol) but was using furazabol and cheque drops on the day of.
keithfabbri 1 year ago
RIP Charlie Francis... THE authority in sprinting
ippikin 1 year ago
They all cried foul so loudly, especially Carl Lewis. But since then 5 of the 8 have all been shown to be using PED. They ALL do. They have to, just to compete. The travesty is the way money in sport has gotten to the point where athletes are willing to die for the pot of gold.
Camer0nQ 1 year ago
@PONYBOY430 he was busted for a second time remember?...class eh?
rcaddict72 1 year ago
Hypocrites like to demonise Ben Johnson. The fact is that Christie, Carl lewis, Drummond, etc all busted. Ben happened to train harder and wasn't fortunate enough to represent the US. If he had done so, then his drug use most probably would have been swept under the rug like Butch Reynolds and Lewis.
Carl Lewis as good as he was, won silver in 88.
absolutebore 1 year ago
Charlie francis is dead
flyingduck1 1 year ago
RIP CF
dadeboi100 1 year ago
Carl lewis , Linford christie ..who were also in the 1988 olympic final have tested positive for steroids in there career.. ( You can even google this fact).. it makes me sick that ben johnson copped so much shit and the others got away and nobody really made a big deal about it..
what makes me even sicker is that the gold medal was taken from ben and given to carl lewis (another guy that was also on drugs) ..
hfvcjndscnwfcdsnclaq 1 year ago
@hfvcjndscnwfcdsnclaq ..ive said it over and over...drugs arent drugs..just like oils aint oils. ben copped it because he not only took highly androgenic drugs -orals at that, right up to the day of the comp- he also pushed the bounds that others wouldnt risk. thats why he copped it. of anyone who was cheating, he cheated the most.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
@rcaddict72 As ben johnson said in the documentary "worlds fastest men part 1"
""Why should i train hard and be clean when everybody is doing the
same thing ,cheating ! ....if they are cheating ,then i will join the group""
GOOD on ya ben .. you joined the group and you whipped there asses ! .
Carl Lewis you fag ! give back ben's gold medal..
hfvcjndscnwfcdsnclaq 1 year ago
@hfvcjndscnwfcdsnclaq ..oh yeah..good excuse...join the group "i dont have a clue"...if you're dumb enough to believe this you're dumb enough to believe anything. some people will try to get away with some free peanuts- others try to take the jumbo jet..then complain when they get caught.."hey, "they" were doing it too!..you all need to stop nut hugging this drug cheat.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
@hfvcjndscnwfcdsnclaq ..absolute rubbish. show us the google links that show this...christie got caught using a stimulant, lewis never got caught using anything.
lewis's times barely changed from the early 1980s through to the 1990s.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
Why not legalise drugs in sport? Let them take what they like, problem solved.
brasilcork 1 year ago
im 17 and im taking stanazol,,/stanazolol,,,i workout,,and im on my cutting cycle,,,im amazed on how ben ran with so much burden,,,he chose to run the easy path,,but he paid the big price,,stanazol could really make that big big diference,,,we chose our path,,and we have to stand through it til the end
beatlewis 2 years ago
@beatlewis when ben was on stanazolol he was virtually undetectable if he dodged the trests for long enough. stanozolol is a mildly androgenic drug and highly anabolic and was the drug of choice for sprinters trying to beat the test back then. a well timed drug regimen and test advanced notice could get you off if you were using that and some other water based, low androgens. but of course, these yield the smallest results also.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
Thanks for this man!!!You are big......
murdaro 2 years ago
Thank you for posting this. I watched it before the last upload was erased and wanted to see it again. Thanks!
OilBarron84 2 years ago
I remember this use to be on YouTube and when it was taken off I looked everywhere for it and couldn't find it. Thanks for posting this.
jbh0213 2 years ago
Its true, but BJ was truly a 1 in a million. His start was fantastic, but i wonder if all those roids made his nuts shrink?
mamowolde 2 years ago
@mamowolde This documentary is epic, it's so well made. Ben Johnson will always be my favorite sprinter of all time and the 100 meters final in Seoul will always be the greatest 100 meter race of all time, I dont care what anyone thinks. Thanks for this brilliant but sad uplaod.
slimithy12 1 year ago
rubbish. it wasnt stanozolol that won him that record, it was anadrol, or anapolan. i hardcore AS that even pro BB's dont like to touch. you dont think the other guys wouldve ran sub 9.8 using the cocktail of gear BJ was on? the main trait BJ exhibited was a massive imoproivement in his mid to late 20s from a so-so runner into a WR beater. nearly half a second went from his time. None of the other top guys did that- because they either werent using, or werent smashing the drugs like this moron.
rcaddict72 2 years ago
You realize that Carl was running 10.5 the year before he ran 10 flat right? Everybody was on- and everybody is on. Usain Bolt went from 10 something to 9.58 in two years. Do you have anything to say about that?
theedge65 2 years ago
plenty. but you wouldnt have a clue. first off carl didnt run 10.5 the year before..his progression was far more gradual and he didnt suddely go from also ran in his mid 20s to WR holder. bolt ran 45s 400m when he was 15..and 20.3 in the 200m and his first ever 100m he ran 10.03 after never even trained for it..plus he was in his early 20s. huge differences in context. they are not all on at all. its not a simple thing to dodge testing with retro testing..they store your blood for a decade
rcaddict72 2 years ago
yeah what your saying is true but in jamaica they have a differnt testing program to alot of other countries. they do not get tested in the off season or better known in the winter season so they load up then come competition in summer, the substances woul have cleared their bodies. Ben was just unlucky because charlie was right 'do you take druga to be on a level playing field? or contend losing forever'
jswaray1 1 year ago
Jamaica is right next to america. they get tested by independant doping bodies and their national doping agencies. In the 1970's eastern European nations supplied their own athletes with HGH and steroids, men and women.
turnbacktime 1 year ago
Usain bolt is natural, he's body hasnt reached its full potential yet.
turnbacktime 1 year ago
i dont follow the premise. BJ wasnt a 1 in a million in the first place, yet this video portrays him as someone with a unique gift. He was a national level athlete, but wasnt something the world hadnt seen before. In fact there were many athletes running like him, or better- even as juniors. Ben was a so-so athlete running 10.3 100m, like so many many college and other country's national level competitors. We dont see videos about them do we?
rcaddict72 2 years ago
Whatever you say about BJ he did win Olympic Gold in a then fastest ever time run by a human being.
He was using performance enhancing drugs but many other athletes were and no doubt still are doing the same.
paweng1 2 years ago 9
@paweng1 he didnt win a gold medal at all, look in the results, theres a big DQ next to his name
mrcatohead 2 years ago
absolutely correct. Ben was a so so runner and then took loads of gear...imagine what the WR would be if they all did that?.. the women were running 47s 400s in the late 1970s and 30 years later they barely break into 48s. the 100m WR would be 9.2-9.3 now if they took gear...its just comforting to americans to think that others are cheating...because most cheats caught are american.
rcaddict72 2 years ago
didnt you read the bit about anapolan?...if others were using at all, then they were using very mild gear like winstrol and getting off to beat the tests. Ben used on the actual day. the very same drug that hardcore powerlifters mix with liquid test on the day of a competition to lift 50-100lb more on the day- for just several hours in fact. the trouble is, its very easy to detect..so no athlete claiming clean would ever touch it. But Ben was unique in one way- he was an absolute dumb ass.
rcaddict72 2 years ago 2
Have you watched all five parts to this?
He last used 6 weeks before the olympics.
They pannicked after he`d lost to Carl Lewis in Zurich.
paweng1 2 years ago
rubbish, look, if you're really interested in this go and read the trial transcripts dont watch a bias video and make your conclusions. Him and Charlie had a falling out and without charlie's tuteledge he was left alone and so he took winstrol and anapolan up until the day of the event. he took anapolan on the actual day. he admitted this later but on the day claimed his drink was spiked and that hed taken nothing. his drug regime was heavy for a bodybuilder..let alone a track athlete.
rcaddict72 2 years ago
@rcaddict72
trial transripts ? where do i find them ?
rjdiscus 1 year ago
@rjdiscus ...wish i knew now...i read them at the time....theyd have to be on the net somewhere...or ask for them from the courts if you're that keen.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
furthermore if you watch the races prior to the olympics you'd see that Ben "threw" those races. he was killing the field in 2 races prior and then all of a sudden stopped like he had brakes on. He was worried about getting busted prior to the olympics. no one, even ben, slows that much. it was very suspicious. the year prior he showed virtually no slowing down when he ran his 9.83. If you believe that he's a legend thats fine..you do that. he's just a major dumb cheat to me.
rcaddict72 2 years ago
Well, if he was using right up to the day of the race then that was incredibly silly.
I thought he was being advised at that point by Dr Jamie Astaphan?
paweng1 2 years ago
I thought roids stays in the system for 1 year.
Did johnson get to keep all the millions he made from running?
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@turnbacktime nah, the anabolic, mildly androgenic roids can be out in as little as a week. thats why stanazolol was favoured by sprinters. the thing with those types though- they give very mild gains- enough to take someone from maybe 10.1 to a sub 10 over time. BUT, anapolan packs on muscle...many gain several kilos per week for several weeks on it and it gives immense strength gains very quickly. the problem is that it hangs around for ages, and essentially destroys your liver.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
@rcaddict72 The more toxic the drug the more severe the health issues will be and the easier it is to trace. As of today Ben has no medical issues. what was the purpose of your post? it just proves that he wasnt on any strong androgenic steroids.
Ben specialised in the 100m only, he didnt even attempt to run 200m in training. This guy wasnt strong over night. Even with steroids it took time and a lot of power specific training to achieve what he did.
why the obsession with Ben?
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@turnbacktime are you serious?its clear that you have a rudimentary knowledge of steroids ... accept that you dont have the background to argue about these substances and move on. plenty of people have abused steroids in much larger dosages than ben ever did and have lived long and hassle free lives. just because ben has no effects now is no proof to back up your argument, ..toxicity? these substances arent toxic at all...they are hormones and the mechanism of delivery is what is dominant.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
I thought your username was familiar than I realised you were the idiot I was arguing with over 2months ago, I've now noticed that you've been arguing with just about everyone posting their opinions on this video. LOL. what makes your dumb argument even more confusing is the fact that you contradict yourself on the issue of steroids, and know nothing about the training methods for sprinters. we already know the exact steroids Ben was taking, its well documented.. just move on with your life.
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@turnbacktime thats because morons like yourself are a dime a dozen on youtube. instead of posting intelligent arguments you and the other fools make stupid statements that are nothing but lame comments without any understanding of the actual topic. and when it gets to the point where you have absolutely nothing to say you either look up my profile and make a smart ass comment or throw in some other insult. that is the way of the unintelligent, of which there are many unfortunately.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
@turnbacktime ..PS my final year university thesis is good enough proof that i know a bit about this subject..and im secure enough to realise that i know more than youll ever be able to even comprehend about both training and enhancements. ironic how you tell me to move along. basically it shits me to tears how morons argue on YT and i feel some need to school them- like ive done with you and others like you. i must admit that it gets old when your thick heads still insist on grasping at straws
rcaddict72 1 year ago
You had the time to argue with everyone else because it took you all that time to come up with a response to a question I didnt even ask, or one you already responded to. Now you're getting upset because I dont give a fuck about your thoughts on steroids and your obvious obsession with Ben Johnson which is making me really uncomfortable right now.
Wow.. you telling me about your final year thesis is all the proof I need. Lets disregard facts, evidence, logic and common sense... PS, you're dumb.
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@rcaddict72 i think i owe you an apology for the little argument we had last year. Ben Johnson really is a scrub. No one who takes roids should be respected at all.
but i only believe he took the steroids that he was caught taking.
turnbacktime 7 months ago
@rcaddict72 If you really think that he is the only one who took steroids...if you think that Carl Lewis, Michael Johnson, Linford Christie, Donavan Bailey, Asafa Powell, Usain Bolt and all the other were and are clean you are dilusional!! Everybody at that level takes drugs! It's not possible to run like that naturally....wake up!!! Ben Johnson is nothing but a scape goat
mttm06 1 year ago
@mttm06 Ben was the "ONLY" runner on steroids in this race. Drug testing is so advanced now, more sprinters were caught roiding in Beijing than any other olympic game. You probably werent aware of the sprinters who were banned for roiding in beijing because they were european. Also the entire Greek and Slovakian weight lifting team were banned for taking steroids that they believe were mistaken for "chinese vitamins".
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@rcaddict72 About the races prior to Olympics, if you are talking about Zurich where he was third behind Lewis and Smith, two months prior to that race Ben had a hamstring injury (in May) and replaced his speed work in training with weight room. He came into the race heavier and stiff. He had a good start but the lack of race training was evident in the top speed (after about 50-60m). Even without that, do you even understand the concept of peak in sports? Obviously not. Dumbass.
ytubeserb 4 months ago
@paweng1 we know which drugs Johnson used and it wasnt anopolan, there is no such drug called "anopolan" maybe he meant Anapolon. Please ignore this troll.
guys today on thg, hgh, testosterone and other roids cant even break 9.90.
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@rcaddict72 Ben Johnson failed for stanozolol, also known as Winstrol, the "very mild gear" you mentioned. He didn't use some "hardcore drug", they (Charlie Francis athletes) used furazabol, a stanozolol derivative, because stanozolol made them too tight.How he tested positive for stanozolol is still unknown.And he didn't use it on the actual day, that's nonsense. Charlie Francis was very educated about the use and they were very careful about the clearance periods. The only dumb ass here is you
ytubeserb 4 months ago
6 athletes tested positive for steroids in seoul, Ben must have been special to an extent to run the times that he did.
lets look at his weightlifting stats. Ben weighed 80kg, he could squat 300kg for 6reps x 4sets (he never maxed). He could bench press 220kg and deadlift 400kg, even with drugs these are good achievements.
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@turnbacktime ..you obviously havent read what has been said. "steroids" arent just one type of drug. there are many different ones ranging from highly anabolic to highly androgenic. most athletes who try to cheat use water based, high anabolic and low androgenic types that are out of the system quickly but also have very low performance enhancing properties. Ben used some of the more hardcore- many bodybuilders wont even touch them. massive strength and performance improvements within hours.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
Testing has vastly improved since then, any anabolic steroid can be traced almost a year after its initial use now.
When I say squats, I mean ass touching the ground pause at the bottom then lift, with technique. Same with his bench press. People witnessed this. Bear in mind that he never maxed. This at 80kg. The world record wasnt set by somone weighing 80kg with virtually no bodyfat. Theres no such thing as a hardcore steroid body-builders wouldnt touch. We all know what ben was taking.
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@turnbacktime ..rubbish... abuot any being able to be tested for up to a year. again it depends on what kind was used, the ratio of androgens, the medium it comes in, the mechanism it acts as. the WR i posted is for an 80kg person. and there are steroids that even hardcore BBs even try to stay away from. many just so no to anapolan, pure test (susp), and other kidney destroying hormones. they maximise anabolic response and minimise androgens.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
@turnbacktime ..colin jackson, the hurdler, has very similar weights achievements to that. we are talking elite athletes here. keep in mind that asafa powell runs quicker than ben ever did and struggles to bench 200lb....to put it in perspective, the 600lb x 6 reps x4 sets are not full range powerlifting squats- neither is the bench or deadlift.. the WR squat is 930lbs. ..and 100s have done 700lb. so lets not go all ga ga and gooey.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
lol, Colin Jackson does not have similar weight achievements to Ben. Yes asafa runs quicker than Ben whats your point? Ben was far more explosive coming out of the blocks than asafa.
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@turnbacktime ..2 points. that ben wasnt anything so special in the first place, and gained strength because he used the more powerful steroids around. drug free athletes have similar performances, and ben was an also ran before he dosed up. give any top 50 sprinter what ben took and you'd be nut hugging them also
rcaddict72 1 year ago
naturally he could run sub 10 anyway which most athletes can not do, he was a top 10 sprinter at the time before he took steroids so please get your facts right.
Dwain Chambers and Linford christie were taking even stronger drugs, regarless even they couldnt ran as fast as Ben. Ben was abnormally strong because he was hyper responsive to AAS's which most people are not.
many powerlifters and olympic weightlifters are on roids. How many at 80kg could outlift ben (a sprinter)...?... exactly.
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@turnbacktime ..he never ran close to 10 seconds without drugs. he was a 10.20 runner at best. where do you get your data from?!. Dwain and Linford did not take anywhere near the strength of drugs Ben was taking. like i said, ben was a dumb ass who blew it when he decided to go it alone. seriously dude you dont have a clue. im done with you.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
Dwaine admitted to taking, nandrolone, human growth hormone, testosterone, ephedrine and many other performance enhancers. Not once have you named the type of AAS's Ben was taking because you "dont" know what the fuck you're talking about. he was on Furazabol and Stanazol which were and still are widely used.
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@turnbacktime you should read my earlier posts mate. none of those AAS's are same class as anapolan, or anadrol. it is you who doesnt know what you are talking about...what is "testosterone"?...there are many forms of test and its efficacy depends highly on it. some are short acting, some long, some water based and so on. ive already mentioned the stana, and the anapolan in earlier posts imbicile...still doesnt change the fact that ben was a 10.2 runner before he cheated. your idol is a cheat.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
why say you're done with me then reply back? what the fuck are you talking about? who took anapolan or anadrol? Why the fuck should I read your earlier posts when it was you responding to me?
Typical bogan Australian making up things she knows nothing about (dont even deny you're a woman)?
Johnson isnt even one of my favourite 100m runners. A personal friend of mine by the name of Yohan blake and Usain B are, regardless 6 athletes tested positiv in Seoul, therefore his win was legit.
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@turnbacktime ..woman?..rofl.. u are such a simpleton. say hi to yohan for me...not that i give a shit really...just funny you mentioned it as it has nothing to do with this. and ben took anadrol/anapolan..thats how he got busted dipshit.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
lol Ben has never taken anadrol or anapol you idiot. The entire world knows what he took yet you're still in denial. say hi to Yohan yourself /watch?v=si2TI64bO6U
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@turnbacktime ..whatever you reckon ...if you bothered to read the transcripts you'd know im right...you're just arguing for the sake of arguing without knowing anything about steroids or the facts. you and ben could be friends.
rcaddict72 1 year ago
@rcaddict72 Carl Lewis was using steroids to shatter records, are you going to make the same trite argument against him? No, you're just another misinformed person ranting against steroids. Sprinting is steroids, it has been since the 70's and always will be.
blackvapour 6 months ago
@rcaddict72 10.3 is fast as hell in Canada. In the States they have that all through the south. (Where we can run year round)
cookiegate 6 months ago