From a lay perspective (non flyer) it seems that there was a fair bit of time between the first aircraft take off and the second. How long a wait is required for the turbulence to pass?
It's not that the plane creates such extreem turblance as much as no time at all was given for it to clear and ultralights are (as the name implies) light. It takes very little turbulance to upset them.
@NashvilleKildCountry - its because they're sooo draggy. In fact, when flying a trike, you're taught never to make tight 360 degree turns as the thump when flying through your own wake turbulence is pretty violent (yup, I had to try it anyway... and it certainly was).
Ahem; can I point out to all the interested posters above that I'm the pilot of the 3-axis machine I'm not flying the flexwing, and despite suggestions otherwise, the pilot's departure was definitely caused by wake turbulence...
When you takeoff behind another aircraft, you rotate and liftoff before their rotation point on the runway and then out climb them. If you are unable, you offset to upwind side off the vortices. or wait the 2 minutes which you clearly did not do....thats Basic Piloting 101. In 23,000+ hours of flying i can count the times i have been in wake turbulence on both hands. Follow the basic rules....don't learn the hard way.
The wing is near stall, im pretty sure of that, seems like it.. i´ve been in wakes they dont appear like i slice to the right but stall might. just my guess. more speed at takeoff and you dont slice.
BTW, this must be an old British trike with a large engine. Only those have such pronounced torque effect on them at full throttle. Pretty badly designed if you ask me
That was no wake turbulence. Your friend was up and climbing waaaay before the airplane guy. That was your friend almost going to slow flight and not being able to control the full power torque effect on the trike with his lateral axis input. In slow flight the roll is slower and sluggish with less effect in a trike
Wake turbulence can last up to 3 minutes, and has a sinking tendency. So yes, it could have been wake turbulence. And no, you don't know what your talking about.
Once your off the ground Gary, keep the bar pulled in for speed. My hang glider instructor said, "Speed is safety". It gives you plenty of control while close to the ground.
Trike was in the air well before the point the other plane rotated! Not wake turbulence! Even if he had waited to take off beyond the point of the first planes rotation the wing tip vortices from such a light plane would be of no concern!
From a lay perspective (non flyer) it seems that there was a fair bit of time between the first aircraft take off and the second. How long a wait is required for the turbulence to pass?
jjpuxty 9 months ago
@jjpuxty I can't remember if it's 5 mins or 15mins
emp29 4 months ago
@emp29 Wow, I would never even have though five minutes would have been needed. Well, there you go, that's why pilots are experts, :-)
jjpuxty 4 months ago
It's not that the plane creates such extreem turblance as much as no time at all was given for it to clear and ultralights are (as the name implies) light. It takes very little turbulance to upset them.
DouglasMiles1 1 year ago
I never thought those puddle jumpers caused that much wake turbulence. Interesting.
NashvilleKildCountry 1 year ago
@NashvilleKildCountry - its because they're sooo draggy. In fact, when flying a trike, you're taught never to make tight 360 degree turns as the thump when flying through your own wake turbulence is pretty violent (yup, I had to try it anyway... and it certainly was).
Microlightgary 1 year ago
either way..... nice recovery.....
ZaHa559 1 year ago
Ahem; can I point out to all the interested posters above that I'm the pilot of the 3-axis machine I'm not flying the flexwing, and despite suggestions otherwise, the pilot's departure was definitely caused by wake turbulence...
Microlightgary 2 years ago
When you takeoff behind another aircraft, you rotate and liftoff before their rotation point on the runway and then out climb them. If you are unable, you offset to upwind side off the vortices. or wait the 2 minutes which you clearly did not do....thats Basic Piloting 101. In 23,000+ hours of flying i can count the times i have been in wake turbulence on both hands. Follow the basic rules....don't learn the hard way.
lvcyberpimpin 2 years ago
The wing is near stall, im pretty sure of that, seems like it.. i´ve been in wakes they dont appear like i slice to the right but stall might. just my guess. more speed at takeoff and you dont slice.
Lexorfly 2 years ago
BTW, this must be an old British trike with a large engine. Only those have such pronounced torque effect on them at full throttle. Pretty badly designed if you ask me
cherianjubilee 2 years ago
That was no wake turbulence. Your friend was up and climbing waaaay before the airplane guy. That was your friend almost going to slow flight and not being able to control the full power torque effect on the trike with his lateral axis input. In slow flight the roll is slower and sluggish with less effect in a trike
cherianjubilee 2 years ago
He got off the ground way before the other guy...it couldn't be wake turbulence.
lvcyberpimpin 2 years ago
Wake turbulence can last up to 3 minutes, and has a sinking tendency. So yes, it could have been wake turbulence. And no, you don't know what your talking about.
ritualghost 2 years ago
you sure it wasnt inexperience? looks it to me
zengeneral01 2 years ago
Once your off the ground Gary, keep the bar pulled in for speed. My hang glider instructor said, "Speed is safety". It gives you plenty of control while close to the ground.
wrdturkey 3 years ago
Trike was in the air well before the point the other plane rotated! Not wake turbulence! Even if he had waited to take off beyond the point of the first planes rotation the wing tip vortices from such a light plane would be of no concern!
a1graymatter 3 years ago
You are lucky!
gerzilov 3 years ago
a lesson to be learnt...a still day no wind to blow prop wash away...glad you didnt go TITS UP
zubax 3 years ago