I say, whenever a kid splays his guts out on a curb from driving to fast. Take a picture of it. and Show it to everyone as soon as they take driver's ed. kill 2 birds one stone.
i think what would really be smart is to make it so after a young adult has gotten their drivers id make it so that for the first year they are not allowed to have anyone sit in the front passenger seat and be only able to drive people in the back that way they would train themselves to look at the road while talking
because obviously they cant look forwards and backwards at the same time. aww crap i didn't mean to ramble, just recalled this was about sex ed
It doesn't seem like its possible or even all that desirable to curb teenage recklessness (not that I'm advocating anarchy). I did a lot of the things you're not supposed to do in the spirit of adventure and curiosity. As a result, I know why you shouldn't smoke pot or have unprotected sex etc. In fact, I think I understand morality better than some of the people I've met who never challenged any authority precisely because I was curious enough to find out for myself why some things are taboo.
It's incredible how these pseudo scientists maintain their industry afloat. It's not as if the various "refrain" education programs don't inform the youth of the negative consequences awaiting them if they do engage in such behaviors. But they do anyway. What's the difference with informing them that they'll be cited if caught driving with other teens? That too is warning of negative consequences. Albeit, a traffic citation being less scary than AIDS or even pregnancy. Unless the first offense
carries with it "hard time" punishment, teens will comfortably risk receiving a mere slap on the hand until the penalty does escalate into something extremely undesirable. By then you can add those to the current number already facing a serious, criminal status from "manslaughter" due to having traffic infractions prior to the fatality. However, they get to that point of X amount of traffic strikes bringing them to the threshold of criminal charges from having merely carpooled a few times
All this despite the fact that Laurence Steinberg stated that kids' risky behaviors have nothing to do with their beliefs or knowledge (of that carpooling is illegal)
But that have to do with outlawing behaviors which are supposedly biologically hardwired from "changes in the brain". In other words, punish them for their naturalness
Why not simply push to have society do whatever it did during the decades when before suicide, pregnancy, violence & murder were problems amongst the youth?
Also, it's interesting to note that he fails to address the correlation between one undesirable behavior's (driving with peers) solution & another behavior's solution
If the solution to his example behavior is outlawing that behavior, then what of the rest of the undesirable behaviors, such as teen sex? Outlaw it also? Ha Ha Ha, funny where the humanists avoidance of conservative views leads to. Not even religious conservatives suggest outlawing teen sex
it might me natural and hardwired in the brain for mass murderers to wanna kill lots of ppl, but we still outlaw that. So, clearly one cannot justify not making sumthing illegal on the basis that it is natural.
The whole Just Say No approach doesn't work because adolescents and teenagers tend to be more rebellious and impulsive. You have to give teens INCENTIVES to do or not to do something. Teens are some of the biggest skeptics on things like sex and drugs, so naturally they're not gonna just believe crap they hear from alleged experts. They're gonna have to try it out for themselves.
This guy takes 5 minutes to say what I just said in one paragraph. What a bozo.
I wasn't JUST referring to this issue alone...I was applying my observation to other misuses of legislation, such as... absurdly lengthy prison sentences for insurance fraud, marijuana posession and use, and other overtly benign offenses.
i would agree, you cant just talk about a topic and hope the kids just "get it", it needs to be shown or put people/kids/students in a controlled scenario. i was taught many things all through school, but most of it didnt stick. its that they were boring, dumb, or just plain silly in teaching it. and looking at todays world, most kids and adults are idiots. we the world are in need of a good education.
I say, whenever a kid splays his guts out on a curb from driving to fast. Take a picture of it. and Show it to everyone as soon as they take driver's ed. kill 2 birds one stone.
MagnusCattus 2 months ago
i think what would really be smart is to make it so after a young adult has gotten their drivers id make it so that for the first year they are not allowed to have anyone sit in the front passenger seat and be only able to drive people in the back that way they would train themselves to look at the road while talking
because obviously they cant look forwards and backwards at the same time. aww crap i didn't mean to ramble, just recalled this was about sex ed
disturbed119 1 year ago
I got my kids two seat vehicles when they were young precisely for this reason. THAT's changing the "context".
danielt63 2 years ago
It doesn't seem like its possible or even all that desirable to curb teenage recklessness (not that I'm advocating anarchy). I did a lot of the things you're not supposed to do in the spirit of adventure and curiosity. As a result, I know why you shouldn't smoke pot or have unprotected sex etc. In fact, I think I understand morality better than some of the people I've met who never challenged any authority precisely because I was curious enough to find out for myself why some things are taboo.
jonwold82 2 years ago 6
It's incredible how these pseudo scientists maintain their industry afloat. It's not as if the various "refrain" education programs don't inform the youth of the negative consequences awaiting them if they do engage in such behaviors. But they do anyway. What's the difference with informing them that they'll be cited if caught driving with other teens? That too is warning of negative consequences. Albeit, a traffic citation being less scary than AIDS or even pregnancy. Unless the first offense
Chuichupachichi 2 years ago
carries with it "hard time" punishment, teens will comfortably risk receiving a mere slap on the hand until the penalty does escalate into something extremely undesirable. By then you can add those to the current number already facing a serious, criminal status from "manslaughter" due to having traffic infractions prior to the fatality. However, they get to that point of X amount of traffic strikes bringing them to the threshold of criminal charges from having merely carpooled a few times
Chuichupachichi 2 years ago
All this despite the fact that Laurence Steinberg stated that kids' risky behaviors have nothing to do with their beliefs or knowledge (of that carpooling is illegal)
But that have to do with outlawing behaviors which are supposedly biologically hardwired from "changes in the brain". In other words, punish them for their naturalness
Why not simply push to have society do whatever it did during the decades when before suicide, pregnancy, violence & murder were problems amongst the youth?
Chuichupachichi 2 years ago
Also, it's interesting to note that he fails to address the correlation between one undesirable behavior's (driving with peers) solution & another behavior's solution
If the solution to his example behavior is outlawing that behavior, then what of the rest of the undesirable behaviors, such as teen sex? Outlaw it also? Ha Ha Ha, funny where the humanists avoidance of conservative views leads to. Not even religious conservatives suggest outlawing teen sex
If outlawing doesn't work with drugs???
Chuichupachichi 2 years ago 2
it might me natural and hardwired in the brain for mass murderers to wanna kill lots of ppl, but we still outlaw that. So, clearly one cannot justify not making sumthing illegal on the basis that it is natural.
bmed19 2 years ago
Does this guy remind anyone else of Paul Krugman? If not only b/c of the way he looks. It's a frightening resemblance.
whoo689 2 years ago
He does kinda look like him. Aged a good few years, but yeah.
moshe88 2 years ago
The whole Just Say No approach doesn't work because adolescents and teenagers tend to be more rebellious and impulsive. You have to give teens INCENTIVES to do or not to do something. Teens are some of the biggest skeptics on things like sex and drugs, so naturally they're not gonna just believe crap they hear from alleged experts. They're gonna have to try it out for themselves.
This guy takes 5 minutes to say what I just said in one paragraph. What a bozo.
whoo689 2 years ago
Making non-criminal actions illegal will only make more criminals...it NEVER is an effective deterrent to such actions (From my own observation).
napalmsaliva 2 years ago 12
So then lots of teenagers will lose their licenses, and that is the MOST effective way to decrease the number of teen auto-related deaths.
KirtaPMcG 2 years ago
I wasn't JUST referring to this issue alone...I was applying my observation to other misuses of legislation, such as... absurdly lengthy prison sentences for insurance fraud, marijuana posession and use, and other overtly benign offenses.
napalmsaliva 2 years ago 2
Whilst I get what he is saying. He smacks of typical liberalism. A complete disregard for individual rights all in the name of "public safety".
CapitalistPhil 2 years ago
Care to explain where exactly does your argument actually holds water??
NwZ2 2 years ago
i would agree, you cant just talk about a topic and hope the kids just "get it", it needs to be shown or put people/kids/students in a controlled scenario. i was taught many things all through school, but most of it didnt stick. its that they were boring, dumb, or just plain silly in teaching it. and looking at todays world, most kids and adults are idiots. we the world are in need of a good education.
MANCO92687 2 years ago
lol good education?????
thats an oxymoron
bmed19 2 years ago