ohhh haha i learned this in science, it relys on the nervous system. the nervous system acts more quickly than the brain. so use your reflexes. dont think, just do. we did the same thing but we had to catch a ruler. much easier than this.
Ow my god :') Why is he making a Pak Sau going downwards...
Why should you try to creatue a huge opening so you can hit his stomach etc.? The idea is to make a foreward move in the direction to his shoulder, so you're able to create just enough room to hit him in the face.
My teacher is right.. do not search for Wing Chun video's on youtube. Get proper lessons instead.
I think your point is absolutely correct, but it helps to train Kwan Sau. By training a pak downwards (which you are right at pointing that should be directed to his centreline and create just the necessary opening to his centreline) you help with a Kwan Sau practice.
Also this lineage uses very wide moves. It is the Duncan Leung approach from his actual experiences in combat.
It is worth the view since Master Duncan, and also Master Lee here, have actual experience in combat. You have to seek for what is useful and try not to have any prejudice about WIng Chun, I think.
problem is that to many WC people have HUGE EGO's. but i agree, having an open mind will allow you to grow not much as a martial artist but as a human being.
there are many ways in applying pak sao. towards the shoulder is one. downwards is another but different purpose. your master is wrong.. there are so much to learn out there if you know what you are looking for.
this guy dont do the way you do it but try touching hands with him or his students.
dont make final judgment until you touch hands with them or anyone 4 that matter.
if u know only 1 way u r weak n very limited in knowledge. wing chun has many many ways and variations.
You can learn alot of videos, just not how to fight. I think the reason they do a downward pak sau is to "cover" a space from the head down to the waist and any attack within that space. furthermore this type of pak sau IMO only works if the attacker is coming at you with intent.
I agree, the pak sao should NOT be downward. If the other person reacts and pulls his arm back, the pak hand will drop leaving yourself open, and unable to recover before being hit. this is why its forward energy not downward or outward.
i really wanted to start practicing wing chun, but here in the Philippines, this martial arts is not well known, most of the Filipino practices Taek Won Do, Arnis, Aikido, and our very own eskrima.. i wonder how can i start Wing Chun? does anybody know any place near Philippines that have a school for wing chun? like hong kong? where in china is the heart of wing chun?
I really like Allan Lee and his teachings but i was wondering...if you throw your whole body forward like he was demonstrating, aren't you loosing your structure?
IMO, you are only loosing structure if your are throwing your body weight 100% forward on the lead leg. If you keep a 50r/50f or 60r/40f (r=rear,f=front) weight distribution your structure is still intact.
Keep going with your training, and don't worry about having a slim build. Work on things, and train your wing chun. This style was not designed for big bulky guys anyway!
Also, look at the defenders motions. As the Pak Sau slaps away the guard hand, the defender turns to go into low Bong Sau (presenting his elbow into the attacker) and does a thrusting Tan Sau with his other hand. Trust me when I tell you that the Tan Sau to your inside (attacking) arm hurts like a son of a bitch when it is done well - hence the padding. In fact, ALL techniques start to hurt when you repeat them over and over, and with focus.
Pak Sou is a slap (and a damn hard one when applied correctly). In other words, it hurts, and the padding is essential if you are going to practice over an over.
you shouldnt need padding. bruises are good. it conditions ur forearms. eventually the pain goes away and it goes away fast if you dont use pads. my sifu hits the hardest in the class of couse. but from all the drills the slap was only like a scratching type of feel. but lawl he slapped me hard enough for a small piece of skin to explode out and start bleeding.
Are you saying it is possible to really hurt your forearm doing the Pak Sau drill if people do it hard? Because I just started learning Wing Chun and people practice the Pak Sau pretty hard but I thought the worst that can happen is your skin turns red for a little while. Is it recommended then to wear padding? I am a pretty thin guy and my arms are not that strong to begin with.
The student is wearing padding on his arms, not sleeves. In Lee Sifu's class, a great many blows are felt, and the Pak Sau training takes a hell of a toll if you do not protect your arms sufficiently. Over time, you build up a resistance, but it is indicative of the intensity of the training that even a practiced student (such as the two fine fellows shown here) still take precautions.
All is good except that student needs to take off his sleeve. You don't feel a thing with the sleeve on so it defeats the purpose of training Chi Sao.
Drills are a part of the whole in how Sifu Lee trains. I was a student of a student of Lee's gung fu elder, Duncan Leung, so I'm familiar with the drills. Believe me, even with the padding, it hurts like hell. Lee's chi sau is phenomenal.
Dear Lee SiFu. Thank you for sharing a little of your knowledge. It is rare for a Master of your generation to explain something like this without charging hundreds of dollars for a private lesson. I am sure the Wing Chun community will appreciate the practical explanation of your method. I look forward to more videos and hope to visit you soon. Thank you again
Man i miss sparring. The only padding we used in training was a face mask (For obvious reasons).
corkyfraud 2 weeks ago in playlist Wing Chun
this is not a pak sau drill but a slapping drill
pinoyblues69 9 months ago
ohhh haha i learned this in science, it relys on the nervous system. the nervous system acts more quickly than the brain. so use your reflexes. dont think, just do. we did the same thing but we had to catch a ruler. much easier than this.
spikeboy101 1 year ago
Why u use tan sao after the attack and u dont hit at once?
dlvt79 1 year ago
Sifu Lee, more chi sao videos would be greatly appreciated. Your insight, IMO, is worth alot.
mywingchunsucks 2 years ago
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Ow my god :') Why is he making a Pak Sau going downwards...
Why should you try to creatue a huge opening so you can hit his stomach etc.? The idea is to make a foreward move in the direction to his shoulder, so you're able to create just enough room to hit him in the face.
My teacher is right.. do not search for Wing Chun video's on youtube. Get proper lessons instead.
Renderclippur 2 years ago
I think your point is absolutely correct, but it helps to train Kwan Sau. By training a pak downwards (which you are right at pointing that should be directed to his centreline and create just the necessary opening to his centreline) you help with a Kwan Sau practice.
Also this lineage uses very wide moves. It is the Duncan Leung approach from his actual experiences in combat.
wingchunone 2 years ago
It is worth the view since Master Duncan, and also Master Lee here, have actual experience in combat. You have to seek for what is useful and try not to have any prejudice about WIng Chun, I think.
wingchunone 2 years ago
problem is that to many WC people have HUGE EGO's. but i agree, having an open mind will allow you to grow not much as a martial artist but as a human being.
mywingchunsucks 2 years ago
there are many ways in applying pak sao. towards the shoulder is one. downwards is another but different purpose. your master is wrong.. there are so much to learn out there if you know what you are looking for.
this guy dont do the way you do it but try touching hands with him or his students.
dont make final judgment until you touch hands with them or anyone 4 that matter.
if u know only 1 way u r weak n very limited in knowledge. wing chun has many many ways and variations.
respect
phoenixifist 2 years ago
I agree. The "useful" point is made again. Thanks, Phoenix!
wingchunone 2 years ago
You can learn alot of videos, just not how to fight. I think the reason they do a downward pak sau is to "cover" a space from the head down to the waist and any attack within that space. furthermore this type of pak sau IMO only works if the attacker is coming at you with intent.
mywingchunsucks 2 years ago
I agree, the pak sao should NOT be downward. If the other person reacts and pulls his arm back, the pak hand will drop leaving yourself open, and unable to recover before being hit. this is why its forward energy not downward or outward.
tahoewingchun 2 years ago
i really wanted to start practicing wing chun, but here in the Philippines, this martial arts is not well known, most of the Filipino practices Taek Won Do, Arnis, Aikido, and our very own eskrima.. i wonder how can i start Wing Chun? does anybody know any place near Philippines that have a school for wing chun? like hong kong? where in china is the heart of wing chun?
gldeganos 3 years ago
Isn`t he doing just a step to the front?
Which minute do you mean?
IwantToLearnWingChun 3 years ago
I really like Allan Lee and his teachings but i was wondering...if you throw your whole body forward like he was demonstrating, aren't you loosing your structure?
nirpal24 3 years ago
try it then ask yourself that question.
King2E 3 years ago
IMO, you are only loosing structure if your are throwing your body weight 100% forward on the lead leg. If you keep a 50r/50f or 60r/40f (r=rear,f=front) weight distribution your structure is still intact.
mywingchunsucks 2 years ago
Keep going with your training, and don't worry about having a slim build. Work on things, and train your wing chun. This style was not designed for big bulky guys anyway!
Maruqis 4 years ago
Also, look at the defenders motions. As the Pak Sau slaps away the guard hand, the defender turns to go into low Bong Sau (presenting his elbow into the attacker) and does a thrusting Tan Sau with his other hand. Trust me when I tell you that the Tan Sau to your inside (attacking) arm hurts like a son of a bitch when it is done well - hence the padding. In fact, ALL techniques start to hurt when you repeat them over and over, and with focus.
Maruqis 4 years ago 3
@Maruqis
right, if you do it properly it hurts, deep, and for the sake of practicing for longer periods, it helps to wear padding
reskillmows 1 year ago
@reskillmows if your a pussy
0lykperry0 1 year ago
@Maruqis dude shut up
0lykperry0 1 year ago
@Maruqis That's because you're a weak pussy.
bknives 8 months ago in playlist My wing chun
Pak Sou is a slap (and a damn hard one when applied correctly). In other words, it hurts, and the padding is essential if you are going to practice over an over.
Maruqis 4 years ago
you shouldnt need padding. bruises are good. it conditions ur forearms. eventually the pain goes away and it goes away fast if you dont use pads. my sifu hits the hardest in the class of couse. but from all the drills the slap was only like a scratching type of feel. but lawl he slapped me hard enough for a small piece of skin to explode out and start bleeding.
heckald 4 years ago 4
@heckald sure sounds like he gave you a spanking
smokinthepot 11 months ago
Are you saying it is possible to really hurt your forearm doing the Pak Sau drill if people do it hard? Because I just started learning Wing Chun and people practice the Pak Sau pretty hard but I thought the worst that can happen is your skin turns red for a little while. Is it recommended then to wear padding? I am a pretty thin guy and my arms are not that strong to begin with.
coolremo88 4 years ago
ur wisdom illuminates...shine on bruva
sizzla123 5 years ago
The student is wearing padding on his arms, not sleeves. In Lee Sifu's class, a great many blows are felt, and the Pak Sau training takes a hell of a toll if you do not protect your arms sufficiently. Over time, you build up a resistance, but it is indicative of the intensity of the training that even a practiced student (such as the two fine fellows shown here) still take precautions.
Maruqis 5 years ago
All is good except that student needs to take off his sleeve. You don't feel a thing with the sleeve on so it defeats the purpose of training Chi Sao.
wcjl13 5 years ago
I had to wear those for about ten weeks because of bone bruises.
Fubetuck 4 years ago
Drills are a part of the whole in how Sifu Lee trains. I was a student of a student of Lee's gung fu elder, Duncan Leung, so I'm familiar with the drills. Believe me, even with the padding, it hurts like hell. Lee's chi sau is phenomenal.
silimtao 4 years ago
woah..
this is somthing new
the example shown is good
chazza04 5 years ago
Great vid! Hard to hear, but all examples of wrong way/right way were spot on.
Solxify 5 years ago
LOL! Did he get the "catch the object" principle from "Warriors 2" w/Sammu Hung?! I remember this was taught in that movie!
MykeTyson 5 years ago
Dear Lee SiFu. Thank you for sharing a little of your knowledge. It is rare for a Master of your generation to explain something like this without charging hundreds of dollars for a private lesson. I am sure the Wing Chun community will appreciate the practical explanation of your method. I look forward to more videos and hope to visit you soon. Thank you again
kiddl3 5 years ago