Watching the training montages of all the rocky films always pumped me up for a great workout in the gym. And there are some very good and touching scenes in all the movies. In Rocky Balboa, my favourite by far is the talk he had with his son outside the restaurant. Gives me chills every time.
i thought rocky 5 was much better than rocky 4 and even 2,i know im in a very small minority but i thought that one captured the spirit of the original more than any at that time.im really glad they made a 6th because as much as i liked 5 it was not an apropriate end to the saga,it practically begged for one more
This is a great interview. he really did nail what would resonate with his audience. I don't know how many times I clapped during the movie. ( and i wasn't alone). It really is true, when you get older those thoughts cross your mind, especially if you are not as far along in life as you feel you should be. He is a true thinking man, that's what I love about him, and he's humble.
This man is truly a real life hero. The spirit he has given millions of people is unparalleled. The message he has spoken throughout the Rocky films is truly uplifting and just utterly honest. Sly is the man. Him and Rocky are a part of us all now. He truly proves that it ain't over till its over. Thanks Sly, I will never forget.
In response to 'swaggerlikeriz': the fight from the fourth film was where dolph lundgren hopsitalised Stallone with a punch. And in Balboa, its real... Tarver said in many interviews that he wasn't comfortable hitting Stallone but to get the film done and look real, they did hit one another.
Rocky 5 isn't as bad as people think. A lot of good qualities about it. Sure not as good as the rest, but still...at the end of the day it's a Rocky movie and we get to see Rocky!
I agree, most of the movies had a great message, Don't give up and keep moving, this is what actually got me motivated about life, it kept me thinking that giving up is not an opinion. Also, it also teaches you to stand up for people more.
Who's trying to hurt him? And he DOES use illegal anabolics. Like Barry Bonds, you don't get bigger and better as you age. Besides, look at how cartoonish Stallone looks. What is he? Pushing 60? Open your eyes.
No, I am asking why an athlete will be publicly disdained, stripped of medals, and looked at like an outrage in the public eye, and yet the same behavior and use of substances that require a RX (regardless of country), is ok. No one bats an eyelash over his juiced mass. Why?
Because its against the rules for athletes. What part of this don't you understand. It is NOT against the rules for actors. Whether you agree with this or not, it is the pure facts, provided Stallone was NOT in the US at the time of usage, he has done nothing wrong.. Again apples to oranges. I dont go to a movie based on the guy's size I dont think of guys that way "oh he's not big enough, pass" he's not hurting anyone by using them. Athletes hurt everyone they compete w/ when they win like that
ok sgt goody two shoes! Stop being so fucking critical! You have no idea how tough it really is! It's all about taking risks,with or without society's permission. Nobody got hurt.
You are clearly completely ignorant to the chemical make up of HGH. It is not a steroid. That is something I am so unbelievably sick and tired of reading/hearing. HGH is HGH. Steroids are steroids. Two COMPLETELY different things. Next you'll be telling me Aspirin is the same thing as birth control.
I never proclaimed that HGH is a steroid. HGH is an acronym for Human Growth Hormone. Secreted by the Pituitary Gland. However, when COMBINED with anabolic steroids, HGH adds an extra boost.
Solely on its own, HGH has not shown too much to be considered an anabolic driver. But as the Major League Baseball drug fest has revealed, athletes take HGH to help with recovery from exercise, injury, etc. As a person ages, this secretion wanes.
5 wasn't that bad...it just required not having Rocky ever become Mick...the warrior never was meant to become/transition to the mentor/trainer. They were going for that...Rocky was brought back to where he was meant to be...thogh he felt he was "just another bum from the neighborhood" (quoting 1). But, it didn't work...but it couldn't have been better for the story on the page.
Doesn't matter. HGH, Testosterone, etc are all controlled substances. Athletic competition or not, to simply have them in your possession without medical need is illegal.
So, once again, I ask, why is it ok for a movie star to be obviously full of illegal substances for the sole purpose of looking good and not an athlete?
Why the double standard?
What makes a movie star ok juiced, but not an athlete?
Illegal in the US, yes. What if he used then while he was in a different country, where it is legal? See, in sports, the rule is if its in your system or you've used it, you can't play, but there is nothing that says you can't act if you've ever used these. That being said, if the location he used it at was legal, then yes, there's a difference.
Well, ofcourse I am speaking about in the US. In Mexico, steroids are sold practically over-the-counter.
But you are missing the point of my argument.
My question is why is an athlete discredited or looked at like a cheater, but an actor is not?
The end result was obtained fraudulently. Whether it is a gold medal or an action movie, the means to accomplish the outcome were anabolic agents. Thus, in the US, this person is a criminal.
Why does society feel it is ok for an actor to 'juice'?
I'm not missing the point of your argument. its not ok for an athlete to juice because in any sport you want to participate in, it is against the rules to have juice in your system and participate in the sport. However, there is no rule that says you can't act in a movie if you juice. The juice itself isn't the bad part, its the fact that you're breaking a rule. Now if he used his juice in US that'd be one thing but if he used it where it's legal, its fair game.
While you're entitled to your own opinion it still doesn't make any sense. We call an athlete a cheater because they are breaking a rule when you do that. US laws, citizen or not, do not apply when you are outside of the country's boarders. Morality has nothing to do with this. If you cheat, you are a cheater. Guess what, it is against the rules in sports but not in acting. There is no free pass, the rules are different. If using them were against the rules to film a movie, he'd be cheating
It makes perfect sense. We are talking about Sylvester Stallone. He is a US citizen. I am unsure why you are reasoning other countries laws when he is a US citizen. Morality has everything to do with this.
US laws state that anabolics are controlled substances. Stallone, as a US citizen, is subject to those laws. Other countries laws are a moot point.
My question is a philosophical one. The public clearly tolerates a film celebrity even though they achieved their physical shape illegally.
No, you misunderstand. You should take American Government. Just because you are a US citizen DOES NOT mean you have to follow US laws while you are outside of its boarders. Your entire argument is based on the flawed logic that says he is subject to US laws while he is not in the US. If they were not used in the US then it is not illegal. Period. He is not subject to any US laws while he is NOT in the US. That being said, if he used those in another country, then he has not broken any laws
And again, for the athletes vs celebs thing. The reason its frowned upon in athletics is because it is right there in the rules, it is against the rules. Once you break a rule you are cheating. There is no rule for making a movie that says that if you've used these substances, then you cannot act in this country. They are not the same thing. One is cheating, one is not. You're trying to compare apples to oranges.
Because, ONE IS CHEATING AND ONE IS NOT. It's not a hard concept to grasp. It is against the rules in one and not on the other. Many people won't sit there and openly root for a cheater, so they will criticize the cheater instead. In one it is breaking the rules and in the other it is not. That is why they criticize athletes who do it and don't do the same to movie stars. One is breaking the rules, the other is not.
Nah he was caught in Australia. The burden of proof is on the accuser. Whose to say he ever used them in the US? Until there is definitive proof, it is just an allegation.
But really though, go look up the law, your argument is invalid. Just because you're a US citizen does not not mean you subject to US laws when you are outside of the country. Those laws are only enforced WHILE you are in the US. If you don't like the fact that he doesn't use those substances, don't watch his movies then. He doesn't care, he's made enough money in his career. You're not going to hurt him any.
I am asking about society in general, not rules or international laws, etc.
Why are sporting rules, laws etc the only way you use to distinguish right from wrong? The laws ORIGINATE from a moral ground. Why is cheating wrong? Just because it is a law, or a rule?
You miss the underlying point of having a law. It's not wrong behavior because the law says so, it is wrong based on a moral foundation where behavioral choices are determined.
The law or rules explain the what, but not the why.
Like I've already explained, when an athlete wins an event using these, it is cheating. This cheating hurts everyone else who competed with that person. Maybe the person who got 2nd would have gotten 1st, thus lost endorsements and maybe he would have had the world record but now doesn't ect. It is a direct competition, where as movies aren't. As I said, apples and oranges, totally diff. Next thing you're gonna bring some famous doctor in this who uses it. "He used juice fire him!"
They are BOTH entertainment professionals. If you believe sports is not driven by money from ENTERTAINMENT VALUE, then again it is pointless to be having this argument.
On second thought, please stop replying.
You are probably one of those people who think that Barry Bonds is clean because no blood test proved his guilt.
Or that Arnold Schwarzenegger (who is way cooler) was clean (despite his confession of having used anabolics)- but hey- they were legal in the 70's.
Ok so let's say he does use them in the USA, which hasn't been proven btw, but let's say he does. He gets caught he pays his fines/does his time, and continues making movies. Just because you broke the law does not mean you can't make a movie, does it? It is still diff than athletics, which in the actual rules for each individual sport, it says you can't compete if you've ever used those types of substances. I still don't see how they're the same. Also, lol at telling me to stop replying.
Who said that I denied his usage? Doesn't change the fact that its not against the rules to make a movie and it is against the rules to compete in athletic competition.
@10474pred hahahaha no chancee he's clean and hes sixty!! i still think he's badass tho and even more importantly looks like a good guy.. down to earth
@GETitYAdig42 Suuuuure. Because there are so many huge 60 year olds walking around. Yeah, just lift weights, and take vitamins...uh-huh. Bottom line: when you are between the ages of 18-30 your natural (key word: NATURAL) anabolic hormones are at their peak. Afterwards, there is a dramatic drop. Therefore, one does not get bigger in their 50's, 60's, etc. It's not NATURALLY possible.
Besides, your contention that he's "clean" is as provable as he is "juiced"- can't prove either without a test.
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god rocky looks like shit, too much plastic surgery or not enough, his skin looks like fried chicken. fuck. rocky needs to hide from the camera now, bye rocky.
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rocky looks like the used up whore he is. the original movie was true art, absolute greatness, everything that came after was sylvester stallone fucking rocky in the ass for more money. same with rambo, sylvester stallone = commercial piece of shit. he is off the artistic roll call forever.
yeah, like you know shit. basically anyone who says something you don't like must to be a 300-lb, hot pocket scarfing world of warcrack-head nobody living in his mom's basement, it's science! you disagree = i must be a nobody. hey here's something important you can do in YOUR life: get yourself a vasectomy, i'm talking right fucking now. then you'll prevent who knows how many other 2-dimensional log-stupid morons from existing and eventually turning this world into the movie "idiocracy."
oh, and by the way. i don't know anyone who'd call the bulk of stallone's work "important." he's the king of lowbrow action-crap films, the world would not be worse off without them, quite the opposite. go rent judge dred, demoliton man and finish off your night of cinematic genius with "stop or my mom will shoot." with the exception of rocky 1 and first blood i can't think of any of his films i'd watch a second time and most i'd wished i could have that 90 min of my life back. important? ha!
Oh, I keep wondering what causes people to vent their feelings in youtube. Maybe because nobody really cares about them in real life or they don't get enough attention from people around them. I never mentioned anything about 300lb loser living in someones basement did I ? There are ways to disagree, the agressive and insulting way you complain, makes me believe your are a bitter jealous bastard, that's all. Maybe you wanted to become an actor/director and never succeded is that the reason ?
Oh, I keep wondering what causes someone to try and psychoanalyze another person based on a few youtube postings. If you want to know the truth just ask instead of playing armchair internet shrink. Maybe you wanted to be an intelligent human being and never succeeded is that the reason? Hollywood is full of soulless whores and ridiculous phonies and I wouldn't join them at gunpoint, I'd gladly take the bullet in the head instead. I'm eagerly waiting for the big one to flush LA into the ocean.
Not trying to be an internet shrink, but the way you address actors and the film industry calling them "souless whores" and "ridiculous phonies" and that you'd rather die than "join them" reinforces my point that you are for some reason bitter and angry at them. Now, there are many reasons for someone to react the way you did and have that resentment towards them, maybe you crave their looks, their money, their fame, their lifestyle. Damn I could be a great psychiatrist.
You say you're not trying to be an internet shrink yet that's exactly what you're doing, and then you contradict yourself and admit it at the end of your post, and furthermore, you're NOT a shrink, therefore every word is brown, smelly and coming straight out thy anus. It is possible to be disgusted with a group of people without being jealous of them. Do child moslesters disgust you? Well you must secretly be jealous of their kiddie-fondling! Stupid fucking ignorant twit.
I'm proud of my european blood so no thanks. Also your little mind can't seem to grasp the situation here, anyone by reading your remarks about actors (for example insulting sly saying he needs hide from the camera) and the way you agressively talk about the film industry in general (don't try to play smart, you can't compare a molester to the film industry so your retarded logic is flawed) will notice resentment and bitterness in your behaviour. Anyway, keep doing what you are doing.
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blood is blood, and people are people. i've traveled plenty and never found a place where people aren't self-centered and generally pretty stupid. And anyone will notice that someone who attempts to psychoanalyze but has no training or qualifications, therefore no credibility, is completely full of shit. And 99% of what comes out of hollywood IS crap, and famous actors like stallone ARE whores. Any idiot can point a finger and say "you're just jealous," its a lot easier than thinking it through.
LOL dude seek help fast! I hope you are not young or married because it would be a shame to see somebody full of resentment, like yourself, towards more successful people running around the world spreading hate and negativity. It's scary to know there are people like you around the world, I only hope you won't end up in jail or killing somebody. Anyway this is my last comment.
Where do you get off making such ridiculous mental leaps anyway? Negativity does not equal psycho killer or criminal, disgust does not equal jealousy. Get yourself an EDUCATION and maybe you can hope to have the slightest idea what the fuck you're talking about someday. I sense a serious overconfidence in your ability to discern truth, you are NOT a critical thinker. Check yourself man, start imagining ways you could possibly be wrong and open a book before you open your jackassical mouth.
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stop eating burgers man! what happened to you, you´re Italian, where´s that skinny body of yours, those tide jeans , you´re just a victim of the american fast food, what a shame!
Rocky IV was a great 80's action movie, but not as good as the first one, or the first two which were more drama.
The Rocky Balboa movie is a strong come back for sylvester stallone when he left the series back in 1990. The movies actually got worse and worse. I guess sequels are all about making the money.
This interviewer is too young to have felt all the Rocky like other people did. All this makes it dull for us. Silly questions from an amateur at my eyes. I wish there were older interviewers making it more interesting. Sly had to make it interesting by himself. The interviewer was in no way accurate. He was just improvising dumb questions and Sly made it more interesting as the interview went by. GeorgeRocky
stallone..if u ever read this i want u to know that i luv rocky 5. Its the classic underdog story and im glad u made it. I know u only hate it now cos everyone else hates it but its a shame. A very underrated movie.
I am goin through a bad time at the mo. But the only film that makes me feel beter is rocky5. Stallone makes u realise that people can take away ur money but they cant take away what u have inside. In rockys case, it was his boxin skills.
In rocky5, the script was from stallones heart. Im glad he made it too.
sylvester stallone is awesome. love his movies.
SuperDelta000 4 months ago
Watching the training montages of all the rocky films always pumped me up for a great workout in the gym. And there are some very good and touching scenes in all the movies. In Rocky Balboa, my favourite by far is the talk he had with his son outside the restaurant. Gives me chills every time.
reptilianskin 4 months ago 3
@reptilianskin Agreed with everything you said, specially about the scene between Rocky and his son Robert, I feel the same way everytime I see it.
Sennin9222 3 weeks ago
@ Roninofearandvoid agree with your comment & on your point no put down thoe that knock the films forget Rocky 1 did clean up at the Oscars.
z5a9 7 months ago
rocky 5 is very good, inside its proposal. Rocky leading with his teenager son and dealing with the retirement. The last 20 min. are really cool.
pliniomsann 10 months ago
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bibi5027 11 months ago
This man needs to write a book of philosophy.
jcamp84 1 year ago
im sorry nut i like rocky 5 more than 4
ribinfo 1 year ago
3:18 - "No, Little Marie, it ain't all right".
Luuuuuuuuuved it :o)
How could you not respect this guy? I'm thankful for having had Rocky growing up, and now still inspiring me.
hyphen8nick 1 year ago 2
i thought rocky 5 was much better than rocky 4 and even 2,i know im in a very small minority but i thought that one captured the spirit of the original more than any at that time.im really glad they made a 6th because as much as i liked 5 it was not an apropriate end to the saga,it practically begged for one more
ghostwhiskey 1 year ago
This is a great interview. he really did nail what would resonate with his audience. I don't know how many times I clapped during the movie. ( and i wasn't alone). It really is true, when you get older those thoughts cross your mind, especially if you are not as far along in life as you feel you should be. He is a true thinking man, that's what I love about him, and he's humble.
fablady3 1 year ago
This man is truly a real life hero. The spirit he has given millions of people is unparalleled. The message he has spoken throughout the Rocky films is truly uplifting and just utterly honest. Sly is the man. Him and Rocky are a part of us all now. He truly proves that it ain't over till its over. Thanks Sly, I will never forget.
Heidernn98 1 year ago 3
A true gentleman, love Rocky!
jetblackram 1 year ago
rocky 5 was supposed to be bad, it was a bad time in rockys life people just didnt like it because he didnt fight anyone in the ring.
bowarrful 1 year ago
all i heard then was "aauuughhhgaaaeeewhhhhghghdaawwwuhhhhhh!"
K6C10 1 year ago
Rocky! <3
JTucker3 1 year ago
I like rocky V it had a lot of father and son problems witch i have...do i can relate to it
And the street fight was awesom .
HalidirX 1 year ago
Sly is a great person, he is always been a people champ, and he always will be.
maderblood 1 year ago
Rocky! Yeaaah Sly!!! We love you!! You're sexy!! :)
shairaptor 1 year ago
Rocky 5 was a great movie one of the best. The only reason people dont like it is because of sympathy for rocky.
SuperNextman 1 year ago
sly, always a class act. nothing but respect for him!
patkajape 2 years ago 18
i like all the rocky movies i think they are the best i could watch them all day in order. rocky 5 was really good.
Sneako4 2 years ago 2
Wait, Marie was his new love interest?
Whattt?
justagirl1290 2 years ago
He's not on anything. He just hasn't stopped training for decades. I do remember him mentioning once before that he took a very powerful amino acid.
carlyle101 2 years ago
That guy is fucking BIG! HGH is what he's on.
scorpionkings 2 years ago
he is not on anything he is just Pumpt....Dude thats rocky!!! he can punch you in the face and turn your head around .
HalidirX 1 year ago
In response to 'swaggerlikeriz': the fight from the fourth film was where dolph lundgren hopsitalised Stallone with a punch. And in Balboa, its real... Tarver said in many interviews that he wasn't comfortable hitting Stallone but to get the film done and look real, they did hit one another.
mmac78 2 years ago
love his voice ,love his mussels
just love him
mamlana 2 years ago
the only good moment of rocky 5 was the street fight at the end
olly598 2 years ago
Wow I didn't even notice Spider Rico was the guy who prayed for Rocky in the last movie.
Richie2k6 2 years ago
i like sylvester, he seems like a cool guý :)
caw1995 2 years ago 5
Class act.
toecutterr6 2 years ago 3
Rocky 5 stunk but the street fight was o.k.
PhillySports11 2 years ago 3
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notrobenom 2 years ago
i was always curious, in the rocky films it was actual real fights right?? less of a pertend thing
swaggalikeriz 2 years ago
Panerai, Bell&Ross, U-Boat are bad azz watches for one cool cat.
1aneeshsivan 2 years ago
Rocky 5 isn't as bad as people think. A lot of good qualities about it. Sure not as good as the rest, but still...at the end of the day it's a Rocky movie and we get to see Rocky!
Roninofearthandvoid 3 years ago 27
i LOVED rocky 5!
im like hte only one of ym friends who did... :P
him and tommy gunn fightin is sickkk!
livininSouthPark 2 years ago
i agree totally with you my frinde..the rocky 5 gives as a LESSON of life
ts3kas 2 years ago 2
I agree, most of the movies had a great message, Don't give up and keep moving, this is what actually got me motivated about life, it kept me thinking that giving up is not an opinion. Also, it also teaches you to stand up for people more.
brandon2232 2 years ago
Who's trying to hurt him? And he DOES use illegal anabolics. Like Barry Bonds, you don't get bigger and better as you age. Besides, look at how cartoonish Stallone looks. What is he? Pushing 60? Open your eyes.
No, I am asking why an athlete will be publicly disdained, stripped of medals, and looked at like an outrage in the public eye, and yet the same behavior and use of substances that require a RX (regardless of country), is ok. No one bats an eyelash over his juiced mass. Why?
10474pred 2 years ago
Because its against the rules for athletes. What part of this don't you understand. It is NOT against the rules for actors. Whether you agree with this or not, it is the pure facts, provided Stallone was NOT in the US at the time of usage, he has done nothing wrong.. Again apples to oranges. I dont go to a movie based on the guy's size I dont think of guys that way "oh he's not big enough, pass" he's not hurting anyone by using them. Athletes hurt everyone they compete w/ when they win like that
LilT20o0 2 years ago
ok sgt goody two shoes! Stop being so fucking critical! You have no idea how tough it really is! It's all about taking risks,with or without society's permission. Nobody got hurt.
tiexiongjipwnz 2 years ago
@10474pred
You are clearly completely ignorant to the chemical make up of HGH. It is not a steroid. That is something I am so unbelievably sick and tired of reading/hearing. HGH is HGH. Steroids are steroids. Two COMPLETELY different things. Next you'll be telling me Aspirin is the same thing as birth control.
RockyBalboa7777 1 year ago
@RockyBalboa7777
I never proclaimed that HGH is a steroid. HGH is an acronym for Human Growth Hormone. Secreted by the Pituitary Gland. However, when COMBINED with anabolic steroids, HGH adds an extra boost.
Solely on its own, HGH has not shown too much to be considered an anabolic driver. But as the Major League Baseball drug fest has revealed, athletes take HGH to help with recovery from exercise, injury, etc. As a person ages, this secretion wanes.
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bibi5027 11 months ago
@Roninofearthandvoid im one of the few people who like rocky5
hulk90000 1 year ago
indeed
"You're gonna love Picasso"
- "Yeah, well, I love almost everybody"
5 wasn't that bad...it just required not having Rocky ever become Mick...the warrior never was meant to become/transition to the mentor/trainer. They were going for that...Rocky was brought back to where he was meant to be...thogh he felt he was "just another bum from the neighborhood" (quoting 1). But, it didn't work...but it couldn't have been better for the story on the page.
savagegalt 1 year ago
Why is it ok for movie stars to pump on HGH and not athletes?
10474pred 3 years ago
It isn't ok for anybody to do drug abuse.
CoolJayShadow 2 years ago
If they were going to a sports competition and competing then it would be.
LilT20o0 2 years ago
Doesn't matter. HGH, Testosterone, etc are all controlled substances. Athletic competition or not, to simply have them in your possession without medical need is illegal.
So, once again, I ask, why is it ok for a movie star to be obviously full of illegal substances for the sole purpose of looking good and not an athlete?
Why the double standard?
What makes a movie star ok juiced, but not an athlete?
Their both criminals.
10474pred 2 years ago
Illegal in the US, yes. What if he used then while he was in a different country, where it is legal? See, in sports, the rule is if its in your system or you've used it, you can't play, but there is nothing that says you can't act if you've ever used these. That being said, if the location he used it at was legal, then yes, there's a difference.
LilT20o0 2 years ago
Well, ofcourse I am speaking about in the US. In Mexico, steroids are sold practically over-the-counter.
But you are missing the point of my argument.
My question is why is an athlete discredited or looked at like a cheater, but an actor is not?
The end result was obtained fraudulently. Whether it is a gold medal or an action movie, the means to accomplish the outcome were anabolic agents. Thus, in the US, this person is a criminal.
Why does society feel it is ok for an actor to 'juice'?
10474pred 2 years ago
I'm not missing the point of your argument. its not ok for an athlete to juice because in any sport you want to participate in, it is against the rules to have juice in your system and participate in the sport. However, there is no rule that says you can't act in a movie if you juice. The juice itself isn't the bad part, its the fact that you're breaking a rule. Now if he used his juice in US that'd be one thing but if he used it where it's legal, its fair game.
LilT20o0 2 years ago
Well, that's exactly where we disagree. Just because a law does or does not exist does not make something right.
In the US, there ARE rules against using anabolics. Stallone is a citizen of the US, and therefore subject to its laws.
My point is that there is a whole moralism that is lacking here. Taking illegal substances to enhance one's image is the point I take issue with.
And for an athlete, he is labeled a 'cheater', but for an actor he is 'cool', 'macho', etc.
Why the free pass?
10474pred 2 years ago
While you're entitled to your own opinion it still doesn't make any sense. We call an athlete a cheater because they are breaking a rule when you do that. US laws, citizen or not, do not apply when you are outside of the country's boarders. Morality has nothing to do with this. If you cheat, you are a cheater. Guess what, it is against the rules in sports but not in acting. There is no free pass, the rules are different. If using them were against the rules to film a movie, he'd be cheating
LilT20o0 2 years ago
errr, i meant wouldn't
LilT20o0 2 years ago
It makes perfect sense. We are talking about Sylvester Stallone. He is a US citizen. I am unsure why you are reasoning other countries laws when he is a US citizen. Morality has everything to do with this.
US laws state that anabolics are controlled substances. Stallone, as a US citizen, is subject to those laws. Other countries laws are a moot point.
My question is a philosophical one. The public clearly tolerates a film celebrity even though they achieved their physical shape illegally.
10474pred 2 years ago
No, you misunderstand. You should take American Government. Just because you are a US citizen DOES NOT mean you have to follow US laws while you are outside of its boarders. Your entire argument is based on the flawed logic that says he is subject to US laws while he is not in the US. If they were not used in the US then it is not illegal. Period. He is not subject to any US laws while he is NOT in the US. That being said, if he used those in another country, then he has not broken any laws
LilT20o0 2 years ago
And again, for the athletes vs celebs thing. The reason its frowned upon in athletics is because it is right there in the rules, it is against the rules. Once you break a rule you are cheating. There is no rule for making a movie that says that if you've used these substances, then you cannot act in this country. They are not the same thing. One is cheating, one is not. You're trying to compare apples to oranges.
LilT20o0 2 years ago
So maybe, you are not the best person to be having this argument with.
Based upon your strange reference to international law on a US citizen, I am unsure if you are writing as a US citizen.
As far as apples to oranges, I disagree.
Both are entertainment professionals and paid ridiculous sums of money to perform for an audience.
Though their forums differ, the purpose of their performances are the same: audience satisfaction.
I am wondering why SOCIETY views a difference between the two.
10474pred 2 years ago
Because, ONE IS CHEATING AND ONE IS NOT. It's not a hard concept to grasp. It is against the rules in one and not on the other. Many people won't sit there and openly root for a cheater, so they will criticize the cheater instead. In one it is breaking the rules and in the other it is not. That is why they criticize athletes who do it and don't do the same to movie stars. One is breaking the rules, the other is not.
LilT20o0 2 years ago
WRONG. Stallone does not go to a foreign country to juice, then fly back to CA, FL, or wherever he lives to go about his life.
Heck, he was even caught in an airport with a bag full of anabolics from Australia I believe a couple of years ago, and nothing was made of it.
In the USA, that is criminal. It IS against the rules- those being the rule of law.
10474pred 2 years ago
Nah he was caught in Australia. The burden of proof is on the accuser. Whose to say he ever used them in the US? Until there is definitive proof, it is just an allegation.
LilT20o0 2 years ago
But really though, go look up the law, your argument is invalid. Just because you're a US citizen does not not mean you subject to US laws when you are outside of the country. Those laws are only enforced WHILE you are in the US. If you don't like the fact that he doesn't use those substances, don't watch his movies then. He doesn't care, he's made enough money in his career. You're not going to hurt him any.
LilT20o0 2 years ago
I am asking about society in general, not rules or international laws, etc.
Why are sporting rules, laws etc the only way you use to distinguish right from wrong? The laws ORIGINATE from a moral ground. Why is cheating wrong? Just because it is a law, or a rule?
You miss the underlying point of having a law. It's not wrong behavior because the law says so, it is wrong based on a moral foundation where behavioral choices are determined.
The law or rules explain the what, but not the why.
10474pred 2 years ago
Like I've already explained, when an athlete wins an event using these, it is cheating. This cheating hurts everyone else who competed with that person. Maybe the person who got 2nd would have gotten 1st, thus lost endorsements and maybe he would have had the world record but now doesn't ect. It is a direct competition, where as movies aren't. As I said, apples and oranges, totally diff. Next thing you're gonna bring some famous doctor in this who uses it. "He used juice fire him!"
LilT20o0 2 years ago
Again, WRONG.
They are BOTH entertainment professionals. If you believe sports is not driven by money from ENTERTAINMENT VALUE, then again it is pointless to be having this argument.
On second thought, please stop replying.
You are probably one of those people who think that Barry Bonds is clean because no blood test proved his guilt.
Or that Arnold Schwarzenegger (who is way cooler) was clean (despite his confession of having used anabolics)- but hey- they were legal in the 70's.
See ya.
10474pred 2 years ago
Ok so let's say he does use them in the USA, which hasn't been proven btw, but let's say he does. He gets caught he pays his fines/does his time, and continues making movies. Just because you broke the law does not mean you can't make a movie, does it? It is still diff than athletics, which in the actual rules for each individual sport, it says you can't compete if you've ever used those types of substances. I still don't see how they're the same. Also, lol at telling me to stop replying.
LilT20o0 2 years ago
How can you say he doesnt use anabolics?
Have you looked at the 50 some year old man?
That's not pumping iron and taking vitamins, dude.
If you really believe that, your ignorance is overwhelming.
10474pred 2 years ago
Who said that I denied his usage? Doesn't change the fact that its not against the rules to make a movie and it is against the rules to compete in athletic competition.
LilT20o0 2 years ago
@10474pred hahahaha no chancee he's clean and hes sixty!! i still think he's badass tho and even more importantly looks like a good guy.. down to earth
GETitYAdig42 1 year ago
@GETitYAdig42 Suuuuure. Because there are so many huge 60 year olds walking around. Yeah, just lift weights, and take vitamins...uh-huh. Bottom line: when you are between the ages of 18-30 your natural (key word: NATURAL) anabolic hormones are at their peak. Afterwards, there is a dramatic drop. Therefore, one does not get bigger in their 50's, 60's, etc. It's not NATURALLY possible.
Besides, your contention that he's "clean" is as provable as he is "juiced"- can't prove either without a test.
10474pred 1 year ago
@10474pred you misunderstood me.. i said there is no way he is clean, i was agreeing he has to be juicing but i still think he's cool
GETitYAdig42 1 year ago
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god rocky looks like shit, too much plastic surgery or not enough, his skin looks like fried chicken. fuck. rocky needs to hide from the camera now, bye rocky.
jwallbanger 3 years ago
O and mickael jackson is so much better?
92Funny 3 years ago
start by looking up the word "irony" then maybe you should audit humor 101 at your local community college. you'll get it.
jwallbanger 3 years ago
ok ok fine whatever i just have a deep passion for slyvester stallone.
92Funny 3 years ago
well write him some gushing fan letters maybe he'll let you come over for some "deep passion"
jwallbanger 3 years ago
well maybe i will! hahaha
92Funny 3 years ago
Um.. isn't "Rocky" meant to look "old"? He is meant to be in his 60's (character wise, so he SHOULD look old etc in my mind)
dont' care what anyone says, the "Rocky" character is a LEGEND and always will be.
Long live Rocky!
SparkysSparklers 3 years ago 2
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rocky looks like the used up whore he is. the original movie was true art, absolute greatness, everything that came after was sylvester stallone fucking rocky in the ass for more money. same with rambo, sylvester stallone = commercial piece of shit. he is off the artistic roll call forever.
jwallbanger 3 years ago
Says the total asshole who has never done anything important in his life. Sly must be losing sleep about people like you....
datxcod 3 years ago
yeah, like you know shit. basically anyone who says something you don't like must to be a 300-lb, hot pocket scarfing world of warcrack-head nobody living in his mom's basement, it's science! you disagree = i must be a nobody. hey here's something important you can do in YOUR life: get yourself a vasectomy, i'm talking right fucking now. then you'll prevent who knows how many other 2-dimensional log-stupid morons from existing and eventually turning this world into the movie "idiocracy."
jwallbanger 3 years ago
oh, and by the way. i don't know anyone who'd call the bulk of stallone's work "important." he's the king of lowbrow action-crap films, the world would not be worse off without them, quite the opposite. go rent judge dred, demoliton man and finish off your night of cinematic genius with "stop or my mom will shoot." with the exception of rocky 1 and first blood i can't think of any of his films i'd watch a second time and most i'd wished i could have that 90 min of my life back. important? ha!
jwallbanger 3 years ago
Oh, I keep wondering what causes people to vent their feelings in youtube. Maybe because nobody really cares about them in real life or they don't get enough attention from people around them. I never mentioned anything about 300lb loser living in someones basement did I ? There are ways to disagree, the agressive and insulting way you complain, makes me believe your are a bitter jealous bastard, that's all. Maybe you wanted to become an actor/director and never succeded is that the reason ?
datxcod 3 years ago
Oh, I keep wondering what causes someone to try and psychoanalyze another person based on a few youtube postings. If you want to know the truth just ask instead of playing armchair internet shrink. Maybe you wanted to be an intelligent human being and never succeeded is that the reason? Hollywood is full of soulless whores and ridiculous phonies and I wouldn't join them at gunpoint, I'd gladly take the bullet in the head instead. I'm eagerly waiting for the big one to flush LA into the ocean.
jwallbanger 3 years ago
Not trying to be an internet shrink, but the way you address actors and the film industry calling them "souless whores" and "ridiculous phonies" and that you'd rather die than "join them" reinforces my point that you are for some reason bitter and angry at them. Now, there are many reasons for someone to react the way you did and have that resentment towards them, maybe you crave their looks, their money, their fame, their lifestyle. Damn I could be a great psychiatrist.
datxcod 3 years ago
You say you're not trying to be an internet shrink yet that's exactly what you're doing, and then you contradict yourself and admit it at the end of your post, and furthermore, you're NOT a shrink, therefore every word is brown, smelly and coming straight out thy anus. It is possible to be disgusted with a group of people without being jealous of them. Do child moslesters disgust you? Well you must secretly be jealous of their kiddie-fondling! Stupid fucking ignorant twit.
jwallbanger 3 years ago
What can I say, another american......
datxcod 3 years ago
ah, you must be jealous of americans, then, right?
jwallbanger 3 years ago
I'm proud of my european blood so no thanks. Also your little mind can't seem to grasp the situation here, anyone by reading your remarks about actors (for example insulting sly saying he needs hide from the camera) and the way you agressively talk about the film industry in general (don't try to play smart, you can't compare a molester to the film industry so your retarded logic is flawed) will notice resentment and bitterness in your behaviour. Anyway, keep doing what you are doing.
datxcod 3 years ago
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blood is blood, and people are people. i've traveled plenty and never found a place where people aren't self-centered and generally pretty stupid. And anyone will notice that someone who attempts to psychoanalyze but has no training or qualifications, therefore no credibility, is completely full of shit. And 99% of what comes out of hollywood IS crap, and famous actors like stallone ARE whores. Any idiot can point a finger and say "you're just jealous," its a lot easier than thinking it through.
jwallbanger 3 years ago
LOL dude seek help fast! I hope you are not young or married because it would be a shame to see somebody full of resentment, like yourself, towards more successful people running around the world spreading hate and negativity. It's scary to know there are people like you around the world, I only hope you won't end up in jail or killing somebody. Anyway this is my last comment.
datxcod 3 years ago
Where do you get off making such ridiculous mental leaps anyway? Negativity does not equal psycho killer or criminal, disgust does not equal jealousy. Get yourself an EDUCATION and maybe you can hope to have the slightest idea what the fuck you're talking about someday. I sense a serious overconfidence in your ability to discern truth, you are NOT a critical thinker. Check yourself man, start imagining ways you could possibly be wrong and open a book before you open your jackassical mouth.
jwallbanger 3 years ago
stallone has italian blood and american blood.... he is HERO forever!!
dely888 2 years ago 3
Love the end..." the second knockdown was real...he's too fast, i didn't see his hands...but he's a nice guy"... stallone, you da man!
juniorloz 3 years ago
Every statement Sly gives has so much meaning into it.
Sonny832 3 years ago 3
wow. he was a lil fat a while back... he sure wasn't in rambo
dohead 3 years ago
what cunt? your mother´s?
janclot 3 years ago
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stop eating burgers man! what happened to you, you´re Italian, where´s that skinny body of yours, those tide jeans , you´re just a victim of the american fast food, what a shame!
janclot 3 years ago
Shut up, cunt.
RockyBalboa7777 3 years ago 3
i think rocky 4 was the best
spiney2501 3 years ago
but only 1 won bp of the year
themaverickfan 3 years ago
Rocky IV was a great 80's action movie, but not as good as the first one, or the first two which were more drama.
The Rocky Balboa movie is a strong come back for sylvester stallone when he left the series back in 1990. The movies actually got worse and worse. I guess sequels are all about making the money.
anthonymij 3 years ago
This interviewer is too young to have felt all the Rocky like other people did. All this makes it dull for us. Silly questions from an amateur at my eyes. I wish there were older interviewers making it more interesting. Sly had to make it interesting by himself. The interviewer was in no way accurate. He was just improvising dumb questions and Sly made it more interesting as the interview went by. GeorgeRocky
georgerocky 4 years ago
I don't think so. Even though he is young he did his homework and knew what to talk about it.
Sonny832 3 years ago
lol hess awesomee =] im doing a project in school on people who influenced the way americans livee todayy, and i pickedd him :]
katieeogara 4 years ago
Nice, he's my hero. ;)
Sonny832 3 years ago 3
He didn't miss the mark!!! Rocky V was great!
dmobxxx 4 years ago 4
God, he was very big in this interview compared in this moment
feetlovers81 4 years ago
Sly should not take full responsibility for Rocky V.
sheemobile 4 years ago
its kool that Arnold and sly are friends
02bash 4 years ago 2
wow, mr stallone is awesome! thank you
seopeter22 4 years ago
wyf is he saing =)
Volumep 4 years ago
what they said! :D
jalg 4 years ago
great interview
captainbogies 4 years ago 2
stallone..if u ever read this i want u to know that i luv rocky 5. Its the classic underdog story and im glad u made it. I know u only hate it now cos everyone else hates it but its a shame. A very underrated movie.
kingfbi 4 years ago 3
I agree bud.
It was a great heartfelt movie, and its a shame he thinks otherwise.
The 3rd an 4th were strting to become MTV videos, the 5th really bought it back.
Im glad he made it, one of the best ones.
SaviourOfRock 4 years ago
I am goin through a bad time at the mo. But the only film that makes me feel beter is rocky5. Stallone makes u realise that people can take away ur money but they cant take away what u have inside. In rockys case, it was his boxin skills.
In rocky5, the script was from stallones heart. Im glad he made it too.
kingfbi 4 years ago 5
Good interview.
Liquidsound 4 years ago 2