The first thing I would've done when investigating the Haunting itself would be to check out the history of what was there prior to the House being built, clues to why the ghost was there would be if there had been if the land had been a graveyard, a Native American Burial Ground, or the site of a battle during the Indian Wars, the Revolutionary War or the War of 1812, a massacre, other murders, or Witch Burnings prior to the House being built
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"This red room was not in the original house plans. Why?" I'll tell you why. Unless you are a complete idiot, no house plan is going to show storage under the basement stairs- stairs which would be in the house plans. You can tell DeFeo's basement was finished at a later time, too, what with all that cheap plywood that was so typical of that era. We have our own "red room" as we made a storage area under our basement stairs. Hey! -it's not in our original house plans.
The Lutz's road this gravy train all the way to the band and back again. What better way to make a fortune quick when you are broke. They really just needed to lay off the drug's a while and their imagination wouldn't have run a muck..
@TheMeriale What better way to make a fortune??? You must be joking. There is no way of knowing the book would even be successful, let alone a mega-bestseller. And no way to know the movie rights would sell or that the resulting film would be a blockbuster. The movie company gave the Lutzes control over the sequel rights - which tells you how little faith anyone had for the movie to be a hit, let alone spawn a franchise...
@FriendshipTown Come on, are you kidding me? That whole situation was primed for success. Just 1 year prior 6 people are brutally murdered as they slept and all because a 23 year drug addict said a demon told him to do it. It was still fresh in the mind's of many people being the killing's alone were sensationalized. As was the trail of Ronnie Defoe. He was still awaiting trail when the Lutz's moved in. So go sell that to someone who isn't a writer and know's who it work's.
@TheMeriale The odds were against this thing from the start, even in just getting the book published. No one believed in this book - it was published by a company that specialized in textbooks and written by a novice. So the Lutzes were clever enough to create one of the biggest hoaxes of the century, but dumb enough to make the whole scheme contingent upon the unlikely event of the book becoming a phenomenal best-seller? That doesn't add up.
@FriendshipTown You can chose to believe what you want. It's a free country and you reserve that right. But I have done my research and my finding's are that they bought that house knowing it was far above their budget to begin with and had no intention's of staying. It was a well thought out plan, one to hopefully gain fame and fortune from. I agree it was a gamble for them but the odd's in their favor. And even if they hadn't gotten the deal they never intended on staying.
@TheMeriale Prior to buying the house (for $80k) the Lutzes sold their previous 2 houses (one owned by George and the other by Kathy), which netted them more than what the new house cost. And after the haunting was over they moved to Southern California and bought a new house there. So no, I don't think this was beyond their budget.
@FriendshipTown . Even the writer himself said in an interview that the Lutz's approached him prior to buying the house and then right after leaving the house. And it just so happen's the reason's they left were also highly publicized in the Local and nation news. These people weren't as stupid as they let on. There is so much more to this story then just these old taping's. And I have been through every shred of evidence there is on this case and the happening's thereafter.
@TheMeriale Jay Anson NEVER said the Lutzes approached him before they bought the house. Point me to where you think he said that. It didn't happen.
You claim to have gone through "every shred of evidence," and yet you mistakenly state that the Lutzes moved in *before* the DeFeo trial, and you think that Ronnie actually claimed a demon made him kill his family? You can't be looking at the evidence if you think those two statements are true.
@FriendshipTown maybe they just knew that gullible ass people would fall for it. explain to me why after the Lutz's, the next people to move in didn't experience a damn thing. no, the DEMON didn't follow them, it's just plain and simply a load of crap
@kissfansince82 I don't know why no one else has reported any paranormal incidents. I don't know why hauntings start or why they stop. Honestly, none of us do. There is no rule book for ghosts. We can't even prove that ghosts exist in the first place. And this certainly isn't the first reported haunting that stopped just as mysteriously as it began.
A load of crap? Maybe. All I know is that I've dug into this case with an open mind for the past several years. I've discussed the pros and cons of this case with many people, including George Lutz and Rick Moran. It's been difficult, because quite honestly there seem to be a lot of frauds on both sides of the issue - those who believe and those who don't. But as I whittle away the myths and misconceptions surrounding this case, I just don't seem to come across any smoking gun.
@FriendshipTown i guess i can see your point, and i didn't mean to come off as an asshole. if that was the case i apologize.secondly, i KNOW that there's life after death. i have a pic on my cell from last month where my sisters image showed up, and she passed away in March. i fully believe in ghosts after seeing that, but as for the whole demonic thing, i'm sorry, but i just don't believe that a demon can manipulate someone and POSSESS them. i guess nobody will ever know no matter what we think
@Emzki28 The preist swore an affidavit stating that he never visited the house, he only talked to the Lutzes over the phone. Father Mancuso is not even a real person, he was made up for the book. The only evil thing that happened there was that a young man murdered his entire family and the Lutz's tried to profit form it.
@Shizalumni No, the priest never signed any such affidavit. You are confusing a legal document which comments on the knowledge the priest had of the book deal William Weber wanted the Lutzes to join in on.
"Father Mancuso" is simply the alias used for the real priest.
@Shizalumni they didnt make tht much money from it at all & the actually wanted to get ronnie out of jail coz of wot happened.plus the priest, there is a documentry on ere with the priest talking bout wot happened ( altho' they ave black his face out as he doesnt want any1 too see him) but he tells his story plus 1 lady did speak to him & she can confirm what the lutz said did happen. it has been made OTT over the yrs, but something happened, plus the house has been blessed a few times since.
@Shizalumni Yes, it could be because they are lying. Or it could be that the subsequent owners are not "tuned-in" to the phenomenon. Or it could be that the forces followed the Lutzes when they left. Or the force may be dormant.
Is there a "Haunting Rule Book" that ghost must follow? Is it against the law for them not to haunt a certain location continuously?
@Shizalumni House is up for sale now for 1.5 million. If I had that money, I'd buy it and call it the AmityVille Hoax bar and Grill. Menu'es Special - Jodies Hot fries and burg. Red room steak Samwhich.
i hope this comment isnt offensive to anyone but.... Maybe the some was just a bit psychopathic and that the lutz are paroniod coz they now people died there...
One of the most interesting aspects of this case is the history of suffering on that particular piece of land, which is a magnet for demonic entities. The Indians who occupied that area had used that land which they interpreted as "evil" as a place to "jail" the insane and dying. The manifestation of demonic entities as animals, most specifically pigs, is also very telling. I believe that the core of this story is true, despite those who grandstanded it to increase profit.
@smashleyBFMV Red room seemed like a very dingy place to store toys. I wonder if it was a place to store valuables. Seems like a perfect hiding place.
Or just cheap long lasting paint. Tremclad colours in the 70's were pretty limited. Paint a damp concrete walled room with Tremclad rust paint and the paint job would last a lot longer than if you painted it with conventional oil or latex house paind.
man the music to this show use to CREEP ME THE HELL OUT! I was just a kid when it was on and I would watch it with my dad then go to bed scared as hell lol
a curious thing about her description she saw of herself in the mirror find one of her later interviews years from this one she came to look exactly like she described before she died and thats freaky
Kathy Lutz's boys now go by their biological father's name and Missy is married, so chances are that the people around them now have no idea of their connection to this story, idyfan22k.
Thanks for the clarification. The article that I read, with an interview with (Dah-dah-dah-dah) George Lutz, before he died, said in the byline that both boys had changed their names. Seeing as that info was in the byline paragraph, though, it's hard to say what the source of that information was.
@billytk247 Yep! That's Leonard "Spock" Nimoy as the narrator! He did the voice for the entire series. I won't direct you to the Hobbit song that Nimoy also did. I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy! LOL!
jvarela965: YES, you are correct. EVERYONE made such a big deal about the SCARY red room. It was the small space under the basement stairwell. The Defeo kids stored their toys there. It was an old house. GEEZ!! The lutz's made up alot. Everyone in that neighborhood knew it was basically just a toy closet! The lutz's never lived in a house before (they lived in apartments). Cold spots? If you lived in apartments all the time...you might not know that old houses have alot of drafts too!!!
I agree. The Red Room has been blown out of all proportion. But is that the fault of the Lutzes or Jay Anson and the Hollywood screenwriters?
The Lutzes felt the red room was odd because it seemed to be hidden; it didn't seem to have a clear purpose; it wasn't on the plans of the house; it sometimes gave off a foul odor; and their normally fearless dog would cower from it.
That's it. No pit to hell or disembodied faces. That all comes from Anson and Hollywood, not the Lutzes. Learn the truth.
It was the DeFeo family who lived in an apartment before moving into that house. The Lutz family were living in a house.
George Lutz had his own house and earlier that year he married Kathy, who also owned her own house (and had 3 kids from a previous marriage). They sold both those houses before moving into their new Amityville home.
George claims the money they got from the sale of their 2 homes was more than the price of the old DeFeo home in Amityville.
@marcusa222 ok and your how old ? u and everyone are saying they lied it was fake blah blah blah can i ask how many times did u go visit them in 1976 or sleep over at teir house to say it was all lies or B.S. ?
The little red room was painted by Mark Defeo and his friend Patrick who is interviewed on YouTube. It is a storage room for pool toys. It is red because that was the paint Big Ronnie had on hand.
watch the show called thats incredible...a girl who claims she was allison defeos friend says that this red room is just part of a storage room or smthn.
It likely was. The Lutzes felt it was odd because it was painted all in red, it sometimes gave off a foul odor, it was hidden behind a shelving unit, and their normally fearless dog would cower from it.
All that stuff about a pit to hell and seeing a disembodied face in the red room was all Hollywood fiction, and not part of the Lutzes' original story. The book by Jay Anson also has some fiction in it, unfortunately. That's one of the main reasons people think the haunting was a hoax.
One would think that the little girl, let alone a man, would know the difference between a pig and a cat. I have heard that their neighbor called them crazy by saying that there was no pig, only a really fat cat that would perch itself on Missy's window sill.
I would be really thankfull if someone could help me with this, I've heard of a video were a newsteam enters the amytiville house and one of the reporters almost gets strangled.
The news team that entered the house was from ch5. Anchorman Marvin Scott was part of that team. No near-strangulations -- that's a rumor -- but Scott felt a chill at one point (which he said was probably due to the cold night) and his cameraman felt ill at one point (which Scott says might have been due to the long hours and lack of food).
That was in March of 1976, and its the only film crew that I know of in the house before the Cromartys later bought the place in 1977.
my god my god, they should have pursued with the blessinga and should have also found a muslim and jewish priest to do the same!
This house, that red room, is a torture room. It preceded the previous family which lived in there. The ghosts got one of their members and let him kill his entire family.
Before that, it was inhabited by a man who used to capture girls and abuse them in the red room.
The red room was made way too sinister in the book and movie. In real life it was just a hidden tiny space in the basement. It was odd, but there was no pit to hell or anything.
It simply isn't big enough to stand in. Two people could fit inside it if they crouched down like a baseball catcher. Not enough room to torture someone in.
The odd things about this room were the dog cowering from it and the foul smell it sometimes gave off. Plus it was painted red and hidden behind a shelving unit.
"The odd things about this room were the dog cowering from it and the foul smell it sometimes gave off."
Obviously something was wrong and unclean about it. The actual room itself may have been built over another structure. I think WhiteNshine is probably close to the truth.
they said there was a priest who is a racist who first owned that house..he dislike indians so he tortured them to death...my friends husband told us that, he said someone who resides in that house before was once his classmate..
The house was built in 1924 by the Moynahan family. When they died in 1960, it was sold to the Riley family. They divorced and sold the house in 1965 to the DeFeo family. The DeFeos were the family killed in the house in 1974. The Lutz family bought it a year later.
There was no racist priest living in that house killing Indians.
Before the Moynahans, the land was once part of a bigger parcel owned by the Ireland family - used for farming, I think.
That IS a very creepy doll. At around 3:13- 3:15, does the eye move? I thought it did and rewatched it and it looks like it does. I don't know if anyone else mentioned that yet or not..I don't read all the posts lol. Interesting documentary. :)
I see where you're coming from, but understand that the Lutzes signed away the rights to tell their story -- and Hollywood (and everyone else) took it and ran with it.
Virtually every documentary I see on this case has major errors when you compare it to what the Lutzes have actually claimed.
There are quite a few things shown in this episode of "In Search Of" that are wrong. Is it fair to attribute that to the Lutzes? The Lutzes don't have final say in what "In Search Of" says...
The dolls eyes didn't move they started glowing like in the original movie when Kathy looks out the daughters bedroom window and there are 2 glowing eyes looking back at her the scariest moment in the movie.
Hard to say. By the time they moved out of Amityville the Lutzes believed Jodie was real. They felt it was some sort of entity (for lack of a better term).
This entity appeared to Missy as a pig for the most part. I think at one time it appeared as a boy but who's to say what it really was in its true form? Maybe something that was never human to begin with?
The 2005 remake was pure fantasy based on the Lutzes' real story. The 1979 movie has some fiction but is closer to what really happened.
Awesome! The Lutzes can see each other at night (in the dark) and recognize things are amiss! Plus, has anyone thought twice that as "awful" an experience this was, the Lutzes have seemingly no problem describing the events that supposedly transpired. They dont pause, choke up, etc. Almost as if it were rehearsed....
Edit: when they were blessing the house, they hear a chorus of voices saying, "Will you please stop!"
Please? Demons, ghosts, etc., say please when they want something to happen? Oh cmon...this was a fraud of the nth degree. To this day, the Lutzes have copyrighted everything about this story. It's a gold mine to them.
The Lutzes don't own the rights to the story of their 28-day stay. At least George & Kathy don't. They signed away those rights in the Jay Anson book deal. But George has trademarked the name "The Amityville Horror" in an effort to protect it from being misrepresented by others.
For instance, George & Kathy own the movie sequel rights; but that didn't stop Dino DeLaurentis from making "Amityville II" without their permission. They went to court but couldn't prevent the movie from coming out.
Its not a gold mine at all. The Lutzes got very little money from the books and movies, many of which were done without permission from or participation with the Lutzes.
George and Kathy Lutz are both dead. The surviving children refuse to speak publicly about the haunting. Rather they seek to live their own lives. Its never been a gold mine for the family -- just for the book publishers and movie companies. Do a little research on the matter...
For the truth, look no further than an early newspaper article, written before the book was. A friend of the Lutzes told a reporter that, yes, George said he'd heard strange noises in the pipes, but that wasn't why they left: the heating system in the house broke shortly after they moved in, and they couldn't afford to get it fixed. That's the real reason they left.
And George Lutz admitted in an interview they'd made over $300,000 from the book and movie royalties over the years.
Admitted? You say that like its a secret. Yes, they made around that over the years for the book. Do you think that's a lot for a phenomenal best-seller like "The Amityville Horror" turned out to be? Do you think its a prudent idea to drop $80 grand on a house (just because there was something wrong with the heating) in the hopes that you can land a book deal and in the hopes that the resulting book would be a best-seller???
When the Lutzes lived in the house, they did what most people when experiencing the paranormal - they think "that's odd" and they look for a rational explanation behind the events.
One of the phenomena they experienced was a drastic temperature drop from room to room - far greater than what would be normal. So I think its natural for them to make a casual remark to their friend about "something being wrong with the heating" rather than say "my house must be haunted because of the heat."
Do you live in the country? I live in a suburban area, and if I open my drapes there is enough ambient light enabling me to see at night.
And do they say they didn't turn on their lights at night when seeing things amiss?
I bet if they did choke up and pause, you'd still say it looked rehearsed. This episode was filmed in 1979 -- 3 years after the events. They had done many interviews by this time.
What's truly sad is that you want to think that there can be no explanation other than spooky spectres for this entire "experience". You want me to do a little research? Laughable. Completely laughable. Why don't you accept that there is a rational explanation for every single thing related to this story and if it can't be explained then it's simply been made up.
What's truly sad is that you've made up your mind and refuse to listen. "If it can't be explained, then its a lie"?!? I bet in a past life you were one of the people who put Galileo on trial for heresy...
I don't think, and I've never stated, that "there can be no explanation other than spooky specters" for every incident the Lutzes went through. Seems you've not only pre-judged this case, but me as well.
Actually, I also have a hard time believing in ghosts and demons and such. But I have not let that get in the way of my research into this case.
To close your eyes and dismiss the paranormal as nonsense is very shallow of you. What we think of today as "demons" or "ghosts" might eventually be shown to be some basic force of nature that we have yet to understand. But just because we don't understand it doesn't mean we should ignore or dismiss it...
you know i heard a story of the guy who killed his family in that house he believe voices told him they was going to kill him and acted out from hearing demon voice coaching him to kill each one that was in the house and till this day that house is set as a condemn property where no one ever step foot on ever again bcuz the house is curse and full of madness.
I've read a lot of the comments here, and it seems that there's a comment missing, which I'll make now. If this story was faked, then the person faking it would have to have a very extensive knowledge of demonology and biblical knowledge to pull it off. The lutz's had neither.
Jodie is important, because in the bible God cast the demon inhabiting a person into the body of a swine. So it is interesting that the Lutz's would call Jodie a "pig", as this biblical reference is obscure. Not fake!
They may not have had knowledge of demonology,but Ed & Lorraine Warren did. I believe something happend there,but not as bad as they say. They may have had ghosts,but not demons. People always assume that all activity is caused by demons.
I agree with you Libramoon. I have no problems believing that some supernatural events may have taken place there, given the history of the house and so on. But I don't believe it happened exactly the way they say it did. I think they just added more and more elaborate details because they realised that their story could make big money.
Was this filmed on a set? The inside of the house, if its not 112 Ocean Ave, it has a very similar layout. If the interior shots were filmed in the real house, wouldn't the Lutzs' furniture have been moved out by this point? This show was filmed in 1979, after the movie had already been released & well after the Lutzes had fled.
Makes me wonder if that's the actual red room. :D In the movie we see George break a hole in a stone wall to get to reveal the red room, so there's an inconsistency..
This wasn't filmed in the real house. The real red room looked nothing like this or like any of the Amityville films. There was no stone wall to break.
It was a tiny space, maybe 3 feet in height and barely large enough to squeeze 2 people into. Larger than a cubby hole but smaller than a closet.
You can see photos of the actual red room at the forum listed in the video description.
The movies were fictionalized versions of the Lutzes' experiences.
The Lutz's are full of shit. A friend of Allison Defeo (one of the girls shot) said that the red room was no more than a place they used to store toys. And the window in the house was not shattered and the stairs were not broken.
None of that really has any bearing on whether the Lutzes were "full of shit" or not. You are describing points the Cromartys made in 1980 on "That's Incredible."
Though I'm not sure if the Lutzes actually claimed the banister was damaged, the window shown by Mrs Cromarty was only broken in the movie - the Lutzes never claimed that particular window broke.
They claimed the red room sometimes had an odor and their dog cowered from it. How does the DeFeos using it to store toys debunk that???
As for the ppl who subsequently moved into the house after the Lutz's, after the psychics & other paranormal investigators had gone in, researched, exorcised, etc. (heard they had quite a field day for quite some time) the home top & bottom, it could stand to reason that if there indeed was any residual activity going on when the Lutz's were there, that all the investigation activity shooed away or helped any remaining spirits to move on. What's stood out to me is that no other owners had kids.
I don't know for sure what I believe or what I don't believe about the haunting & it really doesn't matter what I believe as I wasn't there & I'm wise enough to know if you're not there yourself you'd be crazy to judge what's true & what isn't. From what I see here, & in other accounts, of the Lutz's claims, I see nothing abnormal about their claims. What I find abnormal are the ppl who popularize themselves, for assorted reasons, by trying to exploit & condemn the Lutz's for their claims.
I find it odd that ppl looking for monetary gain make claims of their own to confuse the public into thinking the Lutz's generated those false claims (such as the green goo oozing out the walls which the Lutz's themselves never claimed, only that they found spots of a gelatine like goo on the carpet here & there & Jay Anson admitted to fabricating it for book sales). They're only doing it for publicity/money/book sales of their own & I do know that ppl like that cannot be trusted w/the truth.
Anyone who would exploit someone's traumatic & bad experience in order to justify using it to elevate themselves, especially for monetary gain, are not only immoral but intolerable, especially when the ppl are deceased & have no way of counter-attacking or defending themselves. That's unconsionable & only low lifes would do the such, whether or not the Lutz's were deceased at the time, (i.e. DeFeo's attorney) & most especially when they are. Bottom line, they weren't there.
If you believe in the haunted story, read Ric Osuna's book "The Night the Defeo's Died". It is the most complete investigation into the murders. He even got the murder scene photos (classified and unseen until 2000). The conclusion? The haunting is a COMPLETE HOAX! Watch interviews with Ronald DeFeo...he's a complete sociopath and a chronic liar...his version of the murders constantly changes. He also forgets his previous stories and crosses himself up as a result. It's an entertaining story.
You made this exact same comment on all my videos. Don't spam. I deleted the others.
Osuna is a hack. He once claimed to have PROOF the haunting was REAL. Then later claimed to have PROOF the haunting was a hoax (while telling everyone to buy his book to see the proof).
Of course you can't have proof of both; and Ric had proof of neither. His main evidence against the Lutzes was unverified testimony from a convicted felon (who at the same time was lying about being married to Ronnie DeFeo).
Yes, the situation with the red room was overblown and downright fictionalized in the books and movies. The Lutzes have publicly stated this from the start, but most people didn't listen. They'd rather pretend the books/movies were written by the Lutzes, themselves.
They found that room "odd" not menacing. It had a foul odor; was partially hidden; wasn't on the house plans & the dog cowered from it. They thought it a bit strange, especially in a house where paranormal things were happening.
It's funny because this used to be one of my favorite shows as a kid and was not scared in the least, though it creeps me out now. Actually, the show that scared me as a kid was Unsolved Mysteries.
ronnie defeo murdered his family 3:15 am the night of nov. 14, 1974. The Lutz family fled the home 7 am, jan. 14 1976...(exactly 14 months after the murders.) add 14 + 14 = 28 (the number of days that the Lutz family spent in that same house)
i noticed some footage is of the real house and some is from the movie ..........is that the real redroom ive seen a picture of it but not a very good one
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The Catholic church probably paid them off to pull off this hoax. Drum up business for the Church by getting everyone scared of the debbil and they go running to the priest with their money.
Kinda like they are doing now with that discovery channel series of possesions where at the end a Catholic priest saves the day. I smell a setup.
The first thing I would've done when investigating the Haunting itself would be to check out the history of what was there prior to the House being built, clues to why the ghost was there would be if there had been if the land had been a graveyard, a Native American Burial Ground, or the site of a battle during the Indian Wars, the Revolutionary War or the War of 1812, a massacre, other murders, or Witch Burnings prior to the House being built
snakes3425 1 month ago
Love the creepy shots of the doll. These documentaries were often so much better than your average horror film.
NeverDoubt1 4 months ago
Oh yes because no child would ever sing in her own room and then stop in the hallway! It must be ghosts, the only explanation!
NeverDoubt1 4 months ago
Cathy Lutz, what a cutie!
DrPepperAndSteak 4 months ago
Where is Jodie?
DarkSkies83 6 months ago
I want to go to that house and do oui-ja and LSD.
felpen537 6 months ago
that house was haunted the book exagerated but somthing happened
there
Wildchild880 7 months ago
creepy doll. ohhhhhh
butterfly12rey 7 months ago
You rule Nimoy
95foofighter 8 months ago
The Lutzes never had a red room. It was white. Another myth.
Tom6093 8 months ago
@Tom6093: No, Tom, the tiny red room was, indeed, red. tinyurl dot com/3jy793k
FriendshipTown 8 months ago
The red room was Robbie Jr.'s and Dawn DeFeo's hot box.
veenesse88 9 months ago
is that red room or redrum?..lol
71kolchak 9 months ago
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CAMARO30082 10 months ago
"This red room was not in the original house plans. Why?" I'll tell you why. Unless you are a complete idiot, no house plan is going to show storage under the basement stairs- stairs which would be in the house plans. You can tell DeFeo's basement was finished at a later time, too, what with all that cheap plywood that was so typical of that era. We have our own "red room" as we made a storage area under our basement stairs. Hey! -it's not in our original house plans.
VonFisch1 10 months ago
@VonFisch1 The "red room" was not the entire storage space under the stairs - it was just a tiny hidden section of that larger storage area.
FriendshipTown 8 months ago
The Lutz's road this gravy train all the way to the band and back again. What better way to make a fortune quick when you are broke. They really just needed to lay off the drug's a while and their imagination wouldn't have run a muck..
TheMeriale 10 months ago
@TheMeriale What better way to make a fortune??? You must be joking. There is no way of knowing the book would even be successful, let alone a mega-bestseller. And no way to know the movie rights would sell or that the resulting film would be a blockbuster. The movie company gave the Lutzes control over the sequel rights - which tells you how little faith anyone had for the movie to be a hit, let alone spawn a franchise...
FriendshipTown 8 months ago
@FriendshipTown Come on, are you kidding me? That whole situation was primed for success. Just 1 year prior 6 people are brutally murdered as they slept and all because a 23 year drug addict said a demon told him to do it. It was still fresh in the mind's of many people being the killing's alone were sensationalized. As was the trail of Ronnie Defoe. He was still awaiting trail when the Lutz's moved in. So go sell that to someone who isn't a writer and know's who it work's.
TheMeriale 8 months ago
@TheMeriale The odds were against this thing from the start, even in just getting the book published. No one believed in this book - it was published by a company that specialized in textbooks and written by a novice. So the Lutzes were clever enough to create one of the biggest hoaxes of the century, but dumb enough to make the whole scheme contingent upon the unlikely event of the book becoming a phenomenal best-seller? That doesn't add up.
Tanner1940 8 months ago
@FriendshipTown You can chose to believe what you want. It's a free country and you reserve that right. But I have done my research and my finding's are that they bought that house knowing it was far above their budget to begin with and had no intention's of staying. It was a well thought out plan, one to hopefully gain fame and fortune from. I agree it was a gamble for them but the odd's in their favor. And even if they hadn't gotten the deal they never intended on staying.
TheMeriale 8 months ago
@TheMeriale Prior to buying the house (for $80k) the Lutzes sold their previous 2 houses (one owned by George and the other by Kathy), which netted them more than what the new house cost. And after the haunting was over they moved to Southern California and bought a new house there. So no, I don't think this was beyond their budget.
Tanner1940 8 months ago
@FriendshipTown . Even the writer himself said in an interview that the Lutz's approached him prior to buying the house and then right after leaving the house. And it just so happen's the reason's they left were also highly publicized in the Local and nation news. These people weren't as stupid as they let on. There is so much more to this story then just these old taping's. And I have been through every shred of evidence there is on this case and the happening's thereafter.
TheMeriale 8 months ago
@TheMeriale Jay Anson NEVER said the Lutzes approached him before they bought the house. Point me to where you think he said that. It didn't happen.
You claim to have gone through "every shred of evidence," and yet you mistakenly state that the Lutzes moved in *before* the DeFeo trial, and you think that Ronnie actually claimed a demon made him kill his family? You can't be looking at the evidence if you think those two statements are true.
Tanner1940 8 months ago
@FriendshipTown maybe they just knew that gullible ass people would fall for it. explain to me why after the Lutz's, the next people to move in didn't experience a damn thing. no, the DEMON didn't follow them, it's just plain and simply a load of crap
kissfansince82 4 months ago
@kissfansince82 I don't know why no one else has reported any paranormal incidents. I don't know why hauntings start or why they stop. Honestly, none of us do. There is no rule book for ghosts. We can't even prove that ghosts exist in the first place. And this certainly isn't the first reported haunting that stopped just as mysteriously as it began.
FriendshipTown 4 months ago
A load of crap? Maybe. All I know is that I've dug into this case with an open mind for the past several years. I've discussed the pros and cons of this case with many people, including George Lutz and Rick Moran. It's been difficult, because quite honestly there seem to be a lot of frauds on both sides of the issue - those who believe and those who don't. But as I whittle away the myths and misconceptions surrounding this case, I just don't seem to come across any smoking gun.
FriendshipTown 4 months ago
@FriendshipTown i guess i can see your point, and i didn't mean to come off as an asshole. if that was the case i apologize.secondly, i KNOW that there's life after death. i have a pic on my cell from last month where my sisters image showed up, and she passed away in March. i fully believe in ghosts after seeing that, but as for the whole demonic thing, i'm sorry, but i just don't believe that a demon can manipulate someone and POSSESS them. i guess nobody will ever know no matter what we think
kissfansince82 4 months ago
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TheMeriale 8 months ago
Scary......
MrRoboman11 11 months ago
Who lives there now? Wonder why nothing happened to the people who moved in after the Lutz family? Could it be because they are liars?
Shizalumni 1 year ago 3
@Shizalumni i think its been bulldozed
rainbowplastic 1 year ago
@rainbowplastic Nope, it's still there. There are a bucnh of videos on YT of people going to the house.
Shizalumni 11 months ago
@Shizalumni
The people who moved in after the Lutz's say they have never had anything paranormal happen there..
OrthodoxDarwinist 10 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist Yes because the Lutz's were full of crap!
Shizalumni 10 months ago
@Shizalumni so was the priest lying & the lie detector!!! i feel that it got out of hand & over the top, but something happened.
Emzki28 9 months ago
@Emzki28 The preist swore an affidavit stating that he never visited the house, he only talked to the Lutzes over the phone. Father Mancuso is not even a real person, he was made up for the book. The only evil thing that happened there was that a young man murdered his entire family and the Lutz's tried to profit form it.
Shizalumni 9 months ago
@Shizalumni No, the priest never signed any such affidavit. You are confusing a legal document which comments on the knowledge the priest had of the book deal William Weber wanted the Lutzes to join in on.
"Father Mancuso" is simply the alias used for the real priest.
FriendshipTown 8 months ago
@Shizalumni they didnt make tht much money from it at all & the actually wanted to get ronnie out of jail coz of wot happened.plus the priest, there is a documentry on ere with the priest talking bout wot happened ( altho' they ave black his face out as he doesnt want any1 too see him) but he tells his story plus 1 lady did speak to him & she can confirm what the lutz said did happen. it has been made OTT over the yrs, but something happened, plus the house has been blessed a few times since.
Emzki28 9 months ago
@Shizalumni Yes, it could be because they are lying. Or it could be that the subsequent owners are not "tuned-in" to the phenomenon. Or it could be that the forces followed the Lutzes when they left. Or the force may be dormant.
Is there a "Haunting Rule Book" that ghost must follow? Is it against the law for them not to haunt a certain location continuously?
FriendshipTown 8 months ago 3
@Shizalumni House is up for sale now for 1.5 million. If I had that money, I'd buy it and call it the AmityVille Hoax bar and Grill. Menu'es Special - Jodies Hot fries and burg. Red room steak Samwhich.
Tom6093 8 months ago
i hope this comment isnt offensive to anyone but.... Maybe the some was just a bit psychopathic and that the lutz are paroniod coz they now people died there...
elmobjr97 1 year ago
One of the most interesting aspects of this case is the history of suffering on that particular piece of land, which is a magnet for demonic entities. The Indians who occupied that area had used that land which they interpreted as "evil" as a place to "jail" the insane and dying. The manifestation of demonic entities as animals, most specifically pigs, is also very telling. I believe that the core of this story is true, despite those who grandstanded it to increase profit.
hunternieuport 1 year ago
get your facts straight before commenting... geez
crisrea12345 1 year ago
DAH DAH DAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
countashman 1 year ago
the little red room was where the before children kept their toys
smashleyBFMV 1 year ago
@smashleyBFMV Red room seemed like a very dingy place to store toys. I wonder if it was a place to store valuables. Seems like a perfect hiding place.
FriendshipTown 1 year ago
@FriendshipTown i agree
smashleyBFMV 1 year ago
great show
wilhelm1974 1 year ago
Red room = for developing photos?
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
@karlkarlkarl1234
Or just cheap long lasting paint. Tremclad colours in the 70's were pretty limited. Paint a damp concrete walled room with Tremclad rust paint and the paint job would last a lot longer than if you painted it with conventional oil or latex house paind.
thegirl44 1 year ago
It was the 70's. they were probably just tripping balls.
God0Mighty1 1 year ago
I think Shatner should buy this house
bleekblock 1 year ago
kathy died looking old from a disease
diablo9333 1 year ago
hmmm
BWBB1 1 year ago
man the music to this show use to CREEP ME THE HELL OUT! I was just a kid when it was on and I would watch it with my dad then go to bed scared as hell lol
BIGFOOT425 1 year ago
3:12 I thought an eye was gonna shoot out the head of that doll.
Movickrox 1 year ago
repeat after me, there are no ghost, there are no spirits, there is no god. All here is easily explained
Obelisk2290 1 year ago
a curious thing about her description she saw of herself in the mirror find one of her later interviews years from this one she came to look exactly like she described before she died and thats freaky
dragonguardians 1 year ago
kids have imaginary friends, when i was a kid I didn't have imaginary friends because the ghosts in my house scared them away... : [/---
thescarf33 1 year ago
a doll, a teddy beat, even a pig.
MrRuwald11 2 years ago
I luv how they use scenes from the movie--like that's supposed to be credible, reliable footage.
martincommrad 2 years ago 2
All children have imaginary friends. I guess all houses are possessed.
rpcarnell 2 years ago 2
Kathy Lutz's boys now go by their biological father's name and Missy is married, so chances are that the people around them now have no idea of their connection to this story, idyfan22k.
thegirl44 2 years ago
@thegirl44 Christopher reverted to his biological father's name. Daniel did not.
FriendshipTown 1 year ago
@FriendshipTown
Thanks for the clarification. The article that I read, with an interview with (Dah-dah-dah-dah) George Lutz, before he died, said in the byline that both boys had changed their names. Seeing as that info was in the byline paragraph, though, it's hard to say what the source of that information was.
thegirl44 1 year ago
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marcusa222 2 years ago
so did i it had my cousins name
cdwordsworth26 2 years ago
I had an imaginary friend once. But he never told me his name.
PeterBluth 2 years ago
Is that Leonard Nimoy doing the voice over ?
billytk247 2 years ago
@billytk247 Yep! That's Leonard "Spock" Nimoy as the narrator! He did the voice for the entire series. I won't direct you to the Hobbit song that Nimoy also did. I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy! LOL!
PaulUmbarger 2 years ago
@billytk247 Yes it is him.
edstar83 2 years ago
jvarela965: YES, you are correct. EVERYONE made such a big deal about the SCARY red room. It was the small space under the basement stairwell. The Defeo kids stored their toys there. It was an old house. GEEZ!! The lutz's made up alot. Everyone in that neighborhood knew it was basically just a toy closet! The lutz's never lived in a house before (they lived in apartments). Cold spots? If you lived in apartments all the time...you might not know that old houses have alot of drafts too!!!
marcusa222 2 years ago
I agree. The Red Room has been blown out of all proportion. But is that the fault of the Lutzes or Jay Anson and the Hollywood screenwriters?
The Lutzes felt the red room was odd because it seemed to be hidden; it didn't seem to have a clear purpose; it wasn't on the plans of the house; it sometimes gave off a foul odor; and their normally fearless dog would cower from it.
That's it. No pit to hell or disembodied faces. That all comes from Anson and Hollywood, not the Lutzes. Learn the truth.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
It was the DeFeo family who lived in an apartment before moving into that house. The Lutz family were living in a house.
George Lutz had his own house and earlier that year he married Kathy, who also owned her own house (and had 3 kids from a previous marriage). They sold both those houses before moving into their new Amityville home.
George claims the money they got from the sale of their 2 homes was more than the price of the old DeFeo home in Amityville.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
@marcusa222 ok and your how old ? u and everyone are saying they lied it was fake blah blah blah can i ask how many times did u go visit them in 1976 or sleep over at teir house to say it was all lies or B.S. ?
frenchfried100 1 year ago
@marcusa222 HUMM...??? why RED room...
jillcom 1 year ago
The little red room was painted by Mark Defeo and his friend Patrick who is interviewed on YouTube. It is a storage room for pool toys. It is red because that was the paint Big Ronnie had on hand.
jvarela965 2 years ago
nevermind...anyone who likes ghost stories like this...watch The Entity the true story...there is also a movie The Entity (1982)
ureadmymind 2 years ago
does this video work?
ureadmymind 2 years ago
dude that doll's eyes glowed in the dark. O_o
mindfreakpro 2 years ago 2
Yeah, I've read the book. It's great but you're right..too much fiction added in it. Still good though hehe
Jodie the pig is the scariest thing for me!
ggbunnyx 2 years ago
watch the show called thats incredible...a girl who claims she was allison defeos friend says that this red room is just part of a storage room or smthn.
ggbunnyx 2 years ago
It likely was. The Lutzes felt it was odd because it was painted all in red, it sometimes gave off a foul odor, it was hidden behind a shelving unit, and their normally fearless dog would cower from it.
All that stuff about a pit to hell and seeing a disembodied face in the red room was all Hollywood fiction, and not part of the Lutzes' original story. The book by Jay Anson also has some fiction in it, unfortunately. That's one of the main reasons people think the haunting was a hoax.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
The red room was for REDRUM.
markmansion 2 years ago 2
so what was the little red room for? To practice conjuring spirits or what?
OS253 2 years ago
One would think that the little girl, let alone a man, would know the difference between a pig and a cat. I have heard that their neighbor called them crazy by saying that there was no pig, only a really fat cat that would perch itself on Missy's window sill.
GalaxyClub 2 years ago
I would be really thankfull if someone could help me with this, I've heard of a video were a newsteam enters the amytiville house and one of the reporters almost gets strangled.
TRGH1993 2 years ago
The news team that entered the house was from ch5. Anchorman Marvin Scott was part of that team. No near-strangulations -- that's a rumor -- but Scott felt a chill at one point (which he said was probably due to the cold night) and his cameraman felt ill at one point (which Scott says might have been due to the long hours and lack of food).
That was in March of 1976, and its the only film crew that I know of in the house before the Cromartys later bought the place in 1977.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
Do you know if that is the real little red room at 1:35?
jays2474 2 years ago
No, that is not the real "red room." You can see photos of the actual red room at the forum linked to on my YouTube account page.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
what a load of crap!
klcs1976 2 years ago 2
They changed a lot of things in the remake, especally going into the history of the ghost, and making it the ghost of a deranged preacher
snakes3425 2 years ago
i know why is crazy house they belive jesus is a god
dark6man8 2 years ago
my god my god, they should have pursued with the blessinga and should have also found a muslim and jewish priest to do the same!
This house, that red room, is a torture room. It preceded the previous family which lived in there. The ghosts got one of their members and let him kill his entire family.
Before that, it was inhabited by a man who used to capture girls and abuse them in the red room.
whiteNshine 2 years ago
The red room was made way too sinister in the book and movie. In real life it was just a hidden tiny space in the basement. It was odd, but there was no pit to hell or anything.
It simply isn't big enough to stand in. Two people could fit inside it if they crouched down like a baseball catcher. Not enough room to torture someone in.
The odd things about this room were the dog cowering from it and the foul smell it sometimes gave off. Plus it was painted red and hidden behind a shelving unit.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
"The odd things about this room were the dog cowering from it and the foul smell it sometimes gave off."
Obviously something was wrong and unclean about it. The actual room itself may have been built over another structure. I think WhiteNshine is probably close to the truth.
BornCitizen 2 years ago
Yeah I've heard it described as a broom closet. And no one that's lived there since has had any problems.
JerryTerrifying 2 years ago
they said there was a priest who is a racist who first owned that house..he dislike indians so he tortured them to death...my friends husband told us that, he said someone who resides in that house before was once his classmate..
bsnanne 2 years ago
There are lots of rumors.
The house was built in 1924 by the Moynahan family. When they died in 1960, it was sold to the Riley family. They divorced and sold the house in 1965 to the DeFeo family. The DeFeos were the family killed in the house in 1974. The Lutz family bought it a year later.
There was no racist priest living in that house killing Indians.
Before the Moynahans, the land was once part of a bigger parcel owned by the Ireland family - used for farming, I think.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
Uhm...no.
CarnalSalvation 2 years ago
That IS a very creepy doll. At around 3:13- 3:15, does the eye move? I thought it did and rewatched it and it looks like it does. I don't know if anyone else mentioned that yet or not..I don't read all the posts lol. Interesting documentary. :)
Saywardstudio 2 years ago
I know and I really hate doll and thay want you to blive this shit.
Melmonkey89 2 years ago
I see where you're coming from, but understand that the Lutzes signed away the rights to tell their story -- and Hollywood (and everyone else) took it and ran with it.
Virtually every documentary I see on this case has major errors when you compare it to what the Lutzes have actually claimed.
There are quite a few things shown in this episode of "In Search Of" that are wrong. Is it fair to attribute that to the Lutzes? The Lutzes don't have final say in what "In Search Of" says...
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
The dolls eyes didn't move they started glowing like in the original movie when Kathy looks out the daughters bedroom window and there are 2 glowing eyes looking back at her the scariest moment in the movie.
Condemnedxbox 2 years ago
3:09 -THE REAL KILLER.
Poltergeist454 3 years ago
question? ummm jodies a boy? in the movie wasnt it portrayed as a girl? or is this documentary just wrong?
jessesgirl321 3 years ago 2
Hard to say. By the time they moved out of Amityville the Lutzes believed Jodie was real. They felt it was some sort of entity (for lack of a better term).
This entity appeared to Missy as a pig for the most part. I think at one time it appeared as a boy but who's to say what it really was in its true form? Maybe something that was never human to begin with?
The 2005 remake was pure fantasy based on the Lutzes' real story. The 1979 movie has some fiction but is closer to what really happened.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
no matter what anybody says this shit is real
cody94rocks 3 years ago 3
i totaly agree,and i think they shld hv bld ronny when he said voices made him kill..
chanugaya 2 years ago
Jodie doesn't like George! Hey, that red room, moor-der? (Murder)? Or a photographer lived there?
Malcontent1 3 years ago 2
redrum...
metallkykling 3 years ago 10
what are you saying
natebgraham 3 years ago 2
That Doll Is sooo Scary!
Gloppy605 3 years ago 10
Me too and when I am alone in the dark thinking about I get really scared!
Melmonkey89 2 years ago
@Gloppy605 it still makes my body go cold all these years later
Kikuga 10 months ago
The doll it haunts me, ahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!1
Melmonkey89 3 years ago
4:52..."we heard chorus of voices, telling us...Stop! What are you doin'?"
Lutzes:"We try to get rid of a Deamon from our house!"
Ghosts:"Does you have to do that in the middle of the night!?! We tryin' to sleep here, you freeks!"
...ghost my ass, just another good story for good money, nothing more!
dallyborr 3 years ago 2
@dallyborr No...he said "STOP.....what you are doing."
xmanclyx 1 year ago
Awesome! The Lutzes can see each other at night (in the dark) and recognize things are amiss! Plus, has anyone thought twice that as "awful" an experience this was, the Lutzes have seemingly no problem describing the events that supposedly transpired. They dont pause, choke up, etc. Almost as if it were rehearsed....
co94 3 years ago
Edit: when they were blessing the house, they hear a chorus of voices saying, "Will you please stop!"
Please? Demons, ghosts, etc., say please when they want something to happen? Oh cmon...this was a fraud of the nth degree. To this day, the Lutzes have copyrighted everything about this story. It's a gold mine to them.
co94 3 years ago
The Lutzes don't own the rights to the story of their 28-day stay. At least George & Kathy don't. They signed away those rights in the Jay Anson book deal. But George has trademarked the name "The Amityville Horror" in an effort to protect it from being misrepresented by others.
For instance, George & Kathy own the movie sequel rights; but that didn't stop Dino DeLaurentis from making "Amityville II" without their permission. They went to court but couldn't prevent the movie from coming out.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
Its not a gold mine at all. The Lutzes got very little money from the books and movies, many of which were done without permission from or participation with the Lutzes.
George and Kathy Lutz are both dead. The surviving children refuse to speak publicly about the haunting. Rather they seek to live their own lives. Its never been a gold mine for the family -- just for the book publishers and movie companies. Do a little research on the matter...
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
For the truth, look no further than an early newspaper article, written before the book was. A friend of the Lutzes told a reporter that, yes, George said he'd heard strange noises in the pipes, but that wasn't why they left: the heating system in the house broke shortly after they moved in, and they couldn't afford to get it fixed. That's the real reason they left.
And George Lutz admitted in an interview they'd made over $300,000 from the book and movie royalties over the years.
superbu1 3 years ago
Admitted? You say that like its a secret. Yes, they made around that over the years for the book. Do you think that's a lot for a phenomenal best-seller like "The Amityville Horror" turned out to be? Do you think its a prudent idea to drop $80 grand on a house (just because there was something wrong with the heating) in the hopes that you can land a book deal and in the hopes that the resulting book would be a best-seller???
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
When the Lutzes lived in the house, they did what most people when experiencing the paranormal - they think "that's odd" and they look for a rational explanation behind the events.
One of the phenomena they experienced was a drastic temperature drop from room to room - far greater than what would be normal. So I think its natural for them to make a casual remark to their friend about "something being wrong with the heating" rather than say "my house must be haunted because of the heat."
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
Do you live in the country? I live in a suburban area, and if I open my drapes there is enough ambient light enabling me to see at night.
And do they say they didn't turn on their lights at night when seeing things amiss?
I bet if they did choke up and pause, you'd still say it looked rehearsed. This episode was filmed in 1979 -- 3 years after the events. They had done many interviews by this time.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
What's truly sad is that you want to think that there can be no explanation other than spooky spectres for this entire "experience". You want me to do a little research? Laughable. Completely laughable. Why don't you accept that there is a rational explanation for every single thing related to this story and if it can't be explained then it's simply been made up.
co94 3 years ago
What's truly sad is that you've made up your mind and refuse to listen. "If it can't be explained, then its a lie"?!? I bet in a past life you were one of the people who put Galileo on trial for heresy...
I don't think, and I've never stated, that "there can be no explanation other than spooky specters" for every incident the Lutzes went through. Seems you've not only pre-judged this case, but me as well.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
Aight...this conversation is over. If you want to believe in ghouls, goblins, etc., then so be it. This is nonsense and I'll say no more about it.
co94 3 years ago
Actually, I also have a hard time believing in ghosts and demons and such. But I have not let that get in the way of my research into this case.
To close your eyes and dismiss the paranormal as nonsense is very shallow of you. What we think of today as "demons" or "ghosts" might eventually be shown to be some basic force of nature that we have yet to understand. But just because we don't understand it doesn't mean we should ignore or dismiss it...
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
uhm, the house is not condemned, a family lives there....
steffystump 3 years ago
This came out in 1979. It may have been condemned at the time.
faith4jesus 3 years ago
The house was never condemned.
After the DeFeo family was slaughtered on November 13, 1974, the house sat vacant for a little over a year.
The Lutz family moved in on Dec 18, 1975 and left Jan 14, 1976.
The house sat vacant again until April, 1977, when the Cromarty family bought the place (they owned the house for the next 10 years).
Since April of 1977, four families have lived there.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
oh well maybe i'll check it out sometimes since i live in new york but never actually went inside the house before.
johnnyblaze3131 3 years ago
you know i heard a story of the guy who killed his family in that house he believe voices told him they was going to kill him and acted out from hearing demon voice coaching him to kill each one that was in the house and till this day that house is set as a condemn property where no one ever step foot on ever again bcuz the house is curse and full of madness.
johnnyblaze3131 3 years ago
Actually the house has had several owners since and no one else has ever had a problem there....other than tourists!
Katemonster128 3 years ago
I've read a lot of the comments here, and it seems that there's a comment missing, which I'll make now. If this story was faked, then the person faking it would have to have a very extensive knowledge of demonology and biblical knowledge to pull it off. The lutz's had neither.
Jodie is important, because in the bible God cast the demon inhabiting a person into the body of a swine. So it is interesting that the Lutz's would call Jodie a "pig", as this biblical reference is obscure. Not fake!
casavantlover 3 years ago 3
They may not have had knowledge of demonology,but Ed & Lorraine Warren did. I believe something happend there,but not as bad as they say. They may have had ghosts,but not demons. People always assume that all activity is caused by demons.
Libramoon77 3 years ago
I agree with you Libramoon. I have no problems believing that some supernatural events may have taken place there, given the history of the house and so on. But I don't believe it happened exactly the way they say it did. I think they just added more and more elaborate details because they realised that their story could make big money.
Ynskje88 3 years ago
Was this filmed on a set? The inside of the house, if its not 112 Ocean Ave, it has a very similar layout. If the interior shots were filmed in the real house, wouldn't the Lutzs' furniture have been moved out by this point? This show was filmed in 1979, after the movie had already been released & well after the Lutzes had fled.
Makes me wonder if that's the actual red room. :D In the movie we see George break a hole in a stone wall to get to reveal the red room, so there's an inconsistency..
ragemanchoo82 3 years ago
This wasn't filmed in the real house. The real red room looked nothing like this or like any of the Amityville films. There was no stone wall to break.
It was a tiny space, maybe 3 feet in height and barely large enough to squeeze 2 people into. Larger than a cubby hole but smaller than a closet.
You can see photos of the actual red room at the forum listed in the video description.
The movies were fictionalized versions of the Lutzes' experiences.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
Ah I see. Was just curious
ragemanchoo82 3 years ago
creepy 70s grainy film footage and eerie music, plus Nimoy's voice... ooooooooooooo
mudderfocker 3 years ago
Did jodie's soul when inside the doll?
Melmonkey89 3 years ago
rofl at the house being haunted by a pig
fuckedupspaz123 3 years ago 4
The Lutz's are full of shit. A friend of Allison Defeo (one of the girls shot) said that the red room was no more than a place they used to store toys. And the window in the house was not shattered and the stairs were not broken.
BroadwayKidNamedJosh 3 years ago
None of that really has any bearing on whether the Lutzes were "full of shit" or not. You are describing points the Cromartys made in 1980 on "That's Incredible."
Though I'm not sure if the Lutzes actually claimed the banister was damaged, the window shown by Mrs Cromarty was only broken in the movie - the Lutzes never claimed that particular window broke.
They claimed the red room sometimes had an odor and their dog cowered from it. How does the DeFeos using it to store toys debunk that???
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
As for the ppl who subsequently moved into the house after the Lutz's, after the psychics & other paranormal investigators had gone in, researched, exorcised, etc. (heard they had quite a field day for quite some time) the home top & bottom, it could stand to reason that if there indeed was any residual activity going on when the Lutz's were there, that all the investigation activity shooed away or helped any remaining spirits to move on. What's stood out to me is that no other owners had kids.
rockette78 3 years ago 2
I don't know for sure what I believe or what I don't believe about the haunting & it really doesn't matter what I believe as I wasn't there & I'm wise enough to know if you're not there yourself you'd be crazy to judge what's true & what isn't. From what I see here, & in other accounts, of the Lutz's claims, I see nothing abnormal about their claims. What I find abnormal are the ppl who popularize themselves, for assorted reasons, by trying to exploit & condemn the Lutz's for their claims.
rockette78 3 years ago
I find it odd that ppl looking for monetary gain make claims of their own to confuse the public into thinking the Lutz's generated those false claims (such as the green goo oozing out the walls which the Lutz's themselves never claimed, only that they found spots of a gelatine like goo on the carpet here & there & Jay Anson admitted to fabricating it for book sales). They're only doing it for publicity/money/book sales of their own & I do know that ppl like that cannot be trusted w/the truth.
rockette78 3 years ago
Anyone who would exploit someone's traumatic & bad experience in order to justify using it to elevate themselves, especially for monetary gain, are not only immoral but intolerable, especially when the ppl are deceased & have no way of counter-attacking or defending themselves. That's unconsionable & only low lifes would do the such, whether or not the Lutz's were deceased at the time, (i.e. DeFeo's attorney) & most especially when they are. Bottom line, they weren't there.
rockette78 3 years ago
If you believe in the haunted story, read Ric Osuna's book "The Night the Defeo's Died". It is the most complete investigation into the murders. He even got the murder scene photos (classified and unseen until 2000). The conclusion? The haunting is a COMPLETE HOAX! Watch interviews with Ronald DeFeo...he's a complete sociopath and a chronic liar...his version of the murders constantly changes. He also forgets his previous stories and crosses himself up as a result. It's an entertaining story.
wierd114 3 years ago
You made this exact same comment on all my videos. Don't spam. I deleted the others.
Osuna is a hack. He once claimed to have PROOF the haunting was REAL. Then later claimed to have PROOF the haunting was a hoax (while telling everyone to buy his book to see the proof).
Of course you can't have proof of both; and Ric had proof of neither. His main evidence against the Lutzes was unverified testimony from a convicted felon (who at the same time was lying about being married to Ronnie DeFeo).
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
I believe something like this can go down, although I don't know whether or not it's legit in this case.
The red room's pretty disturbing, I'll admit.
Poopookachew1 3 years ago
Yes, the situation with the red room was overblown and downright fictionalized in the books and movies. The Lutzes have publicly stated this from the start, but most people didn't listen. They'd rather pretend the books/movies were written by the Lutzes, themselves.
They found that room "odd" not menacing. It had a foul odor; was partially hidden; wasn't on the house plans & the dog cowered from it. They thought it a bit strange, especially in a house where paranormal things were happening.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
Man this show is still kind of unsettling and eerie- Nimoy's voice, the music, etc.
robj200735 3 years ago 4
It's funny because this used to be one of my favorite shows as a kid and was not scared in the least, though it creeps me out now. Actually, the show that scared me as a kid was Unsolved Mysteries.
cMarie101st 3 years ago
i am too scared to wacth any more
fritzvw 4 years ago
ronnie defeo murdered his family 3:15 am the night of nov. 14, 1974. The Lutz family fled the home 7 am, jan. 14 1976...(exactly 14 months after the murders.) add 14 + 14 = 28 (the number of days that the Lutz family spent in that same house)
lapdanceles 4 years ago
I think you have a point there.
Mightymopar1973 3 years ago
3:18, got to be one of the scariest things on TV for decades.
GreenGestalt 4 years ago
i noticed some footage is of the real house and some is from the movie ..........is that the real redroom ive seen a picture of it but not a very good one
sharpshooter45102 4 years ago
watch?v=DAwaYobW5DA&feature=user
narutodabomb3 4 years ago
jody the cat XP lol watch this this vid in my next post
narutodabomb3 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
The Catholic church probably paid them off to pull off this hoax. Drum up business for the Church by getting everyone scared of the debbil and they go running to the priest with their money.
Kinda like they are doing now with that discovery channel series of possesions where at the end a Catholic priest saves the day. I smell a setup.
A31Chris 4 years ago
lol - that's the best hoax scenario I've seen to date! ;-)
FriendshipTown 4 years ago