CLIMATE CRIMINAL Exxon was caught funding a huge disinformation campaign about global warming. This is one of the reasons so many people don't understand the realities of global warming, or they are complicit or participating in the criminal disinformation scam. Read the report: Smoke, Mirrors & Hot Air: How ExxonMobil Uses Big Tobacco’s Tactics to Manufacture Uncertainty on Climate Science -- ucsusa . org/publications/catalyst/exxon-exposed . html
trust me, we have a lot more to worry about than this and it is taking place now( in secret)they lie to us about everything.Especially about the rfid chip.marshal law,fema camps-death camps,coffins,crematers,U.N. presense & the list goes on.lies until its too late for us.
they made a mocery of science. this is also how they have kept over unity from us as well. Michael Shermer is a moron that needs his relity dictated to him by his peers, lies or not. The planet is now cooling.
For those who are unclear about global warming. Ask a scientist with NO VESTED FUCKING INTEREST. The scientists who are spouting this idiocy are paid in SHED-LOADS to say so. If I'm offered about £3,000,000,000 to tell a white lie that I think won't effect too many people, I wouldn't; saying that other DO, and they ARE paid, a lot of money. A LOT of money.
People do not understand that the extreme increase in temps predicted by models are not a direct result of anthropogenic C02 emissions.
Atmospheric science is aware that a doubling of C02 could in theory result in a temperature increase of 1 degree celcius, and it would take between 100-200 years for humanity to double the amount of C02 in the atmosphere.
The extreme warming predicted by the computer models is a result of POSITIVE FEEDBACKS from water vapour etc, it is SPECULATION.
That makes much more sense, seeing as water vapor constitutes about 80% of the warming factor. People don't want truth any more, come on man.
We love lies, we love hyperbole and we LOVE, LOVE, LOVE grand statements, the closer to hagiography the better. The silly, silly general population are ALWAYS suckered into stupid debates and sideshows. Global warming took the steam right out of the economic revolution, didn't it. People are idiots. The are easily amused and ignorant to facts.
Almost no one on the street could state what the settled IPCC science concludes.
The "conclusion" is; Most of the warming of the past 50 years is due to anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions.
The problem is that this is somewhat vague as most could mean 51%, and the fact that the warming from the last 50 years is roughly 0.5 degrees celcius, and half of anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions are not C02. I could go on about the faults of the computer models.
I've been a researcher and scientist for many years and can tell you that the worst sin a scientist can commit (aside from outright, deliberate falsification of data) is to throw out raw data and NO scientist does that unless he or she has something to hide. In fact, in my business it is a felony.
"you don't wait for your house to burn down to buy insurance" but neither do you anger your neighbor and drive away value residents and cause your place to be less valuable, nor do you over pay for fire insurance that would cost almost as much as the house.. this guy is talented at hyperbole, if anything at all.
lol if this were really an unquestioned study beyond the shadow of any doubt, you think australia wouldn't jump on the first band wagon for international political purposes? of course there are multiple factors at work here, but the fact that they decided to wait and see what the us and the un do can't be the sole reason for the delay.. what numerical order is this professor now, among the ever increasing line of famed professors who lack common sense?
Notice how they call it CLIMATE CHANGE now and not GLOBAL WARMING anymore. Wasnt their initial argument that the earth was getting hotter? Feels like its getting cooler where I live. I dont need scientists to tell me something I can see for myself!
Even if it were real, Cap & Trade is not going to cut carbon emmisions or spur innovation, it's simply a mechanism to siphon money out of the economy and into the hands of eco-market makers and big business. And to introduce global governance.
This is an international scam for elitists to steal money from world tax payers to fund themselves that goes back to the 60s. I used to be global cooling and now it is warming. You can read u.n. docs and statements from even people like Gorbachev that should show this is a big hoax for money and power.
The funny thing is they keep speaking about the 'underlying science'. All their conclusions were derived by extremely small sample of data, no real experimentation. That is not science... The reason why there are many scientists that believe this is a joke (myself included), is that simple optics, physics and thermodynamics disprove any notion of trace carbon dioxide production having any environmental impact.
I disagree CO2 has a huge environmental impact, Plants get bigger, crops are more bountiful, oh yea and the trees give off more oxygen, LOL...
Seriously though, this is not just one reasearch stations e-mails, these guys hold the world temperature records and tell every other agency what the historical temperatures were. They refuse to release any source data, and ignore freedom of information requests. Even blackballing scientists that disagree..
Amazin how now that the emails have been exposed, they start recognizing the guilt of the fraud of the investigation but straight right away they say: There's no doubt of GW.
They make me sick!!
I hope people in their houses can think for themselves and come clear that WE NEED A SERIOUS INVESTIGATION that includes the WHOLE Scientist society.
Tom Wigley says that von Storch is partly to blame for sceptic papers getting published at Climate Research. Says he encourages the publication of crap science. Says they should tell publisher that the journal is being used for misinformation. Says that whether this is true or not doesnt matter. Says they need to get editorial board to resign. Says they need to get rid of von Storch too. (1051190249)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
# Mann tells Jones that it would be nice to contain the putative Medieval Warm Period. (1054736277)
# Tom Wigley tells Jones that the land warming since 1980 has been twice the ocean warming and that this might be used by sceptics as evidence for urban heat islands.(1257546975)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
Briffa is funding Russian dendro Shiyatov, who asks him to send money to personal bank account so as to avoid tax, thereby retaining money for research.(0826209667)
Tom Wigley discusses how to deal with the advent of FoI law in UK. Jones says use IPR argument to hold onto code. Says data is covered by agreements with outsiders and that CRU will be hiding behind them.(1106338806)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
Briffa says he is sick to death of Mann claiming his reconstruction is tropical because it has a few poorly temp sensitive tropical proxies. Says he should regress these against something else like the increasing trend of self-opinionated verbiage he produces. Ed Cook agrees with problems.(1024334440)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
Santer says he will no longer publish in Royal Met Soc journals if they enforce intermediate data being made available. Jones has complained to head of Royal Met Soc about new editor of Weather [why?data?] and has threatened to resign from RMS.(1237496573)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
Reaction to McIntyres 2005 paper in GRL. Mann has challenged GRL editor-in-chief over the publication. Mann is concerned about the connections of the papers editor James Saiers with U Virginia [does he mean Pat Michaels?]. Tom Wigley says that if Saiers is a sceptic they should go through official GRL channels to get him ousted. (1106322460)
[Note to readers - Saiers was subsequently ousted]
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
Tom Wigley tells Mann that a figure Schmidt put together to refute Monckton is deceptive and that the match it shows of instrumental to model predictions is a fluke. Says there have been a number of dishonest presentations of model output by authors and IPCC.(1255553034)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
i ask, why does environment harming man/man harming environment taking precedent over truth that their are men harming mankind/nature such as, useless/spiritless fascists peons collaborating with insane in-bred things w/ fiat titles, to usurp nations & set forth lies as truth as well as promote the manufacture of wax apples while bulldozing apple orchards. Come folks, wake up, FUDD/PHD flakes, enemies of nature/mankind are on the ropes but own both sides of arguments on TV, it's WWE not real.
Jones tells Mann that he is sending station data. Says that if McIntyre requests it under FoI he will delete it rather than hand it over. Says he will hide behind data protection laws. Says Rutherford screwed up big time by creating an FTP directory for Osborn. Says Wigley worried he will have to release his model code. Also discuss AR4 draft. Mann says paleoclimate chapter will be contentious but that the author team has the right personalities to deal with sceptics.(1107454306)
Funkhouser says hes pulled every trick up his sleeve to milk his Kyrgistan series. Doesnt think its productive to juggle the chronology statistics any more than he has.(0843161829)
Wigley discusses fixing an issue with sea surface temperatures in the context of making the results look both warmer but still plausible. (1254108338)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
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CLIMATE CRIMINAL Exxon was caught funding a huge disinformation campaign about global warming. This is one of the reasons so many people don't understand the realities of global warming, or they are complicit or participating in the criminal disinformation scam. Read the report: Smoke, Mirrors & Hot Air: How ExxonMobil Uses Big Tobacco’s Tactics to Manufacture Uncertainty on Climate Science -- ucsusa . org/publications/catalyst/exxon-exposed . html
gregjalbert 1 year ago
give me a grant and i will sign on global warming shit !!!!
quadcatfly 1 year ago
This is like a Marxist and a Stalinist arguing about the greatness of communism.
These guys should get a room.
Cougar139tweak 1 year ago
M Shermer is as much of a skeptic as Al Gore...
prikhod 1 year ago
trust me, we have a lot more to worry about than this and it is taking place now( in secret)they lie to us about everything.Especially about the rfid chip.marshal law,fema camps-death camps,coffins,crematers,U.N. presense & the list goes on.lies until its too late for us.
tricia7773 1 year ago
they made a mocery of science. this is also how they have kept over unity from us as well. Michael Shermer is a moron that needs his relity dictated to him by his peers, lies or not. The planet is now cooling.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
That such utter fabricated, fraudulent debunked AGW scaremongering would dupe Michael Shermer proves Shermer an imposter,--psuedo-skeptic.
RussianPunch 2 years ago
For those who are unclear about global warming. Ask a scientist with NO VESTED FUCKING INTEREST. The scientists who are spouting this idiocy are paid in SHED-LOADS to say so. If I'm offered about £3,000,000,000 to tell a white lie that I think won't effect too many people, I wouldn't; saying that other DO, and they ARE paid, a lot of money. A LOT of money.
joneselius 2 years ago 6
Michael Shermer got convince by Al Gore about human made global warming. That's new!!!!!
777strangelove 2 years ago
Allegations? Yeah, allegations made BY the climate-crazies "scientists."
twk373 2 years ago
Junk science
SteveBKNY 2 years ago
People do not understand that the extreme increase in temps predicted by models are not a direct result of anthropogenic C02 emissions.
Atmospheric science is aware that a doubling of C02 could in theory result in a temperature increase of 1 degree celcius, and it would take between 100-200 years for humanity to double the amount of C02 in the atmosphere.
The extreme warming predicted by the computer models is a result of POSITIVE FEEDBACKS from water vapour etc, it is SPECULATION.
arbide2 2 years ago
That makes much more sense, seeing as water vapor constitutes about 80% of the warming factor. People don't want truth any more, come on man.
We love lies, we love hyperbole and we LOVE, LOVE, LOVE grand statements, the closer to hagiography the better. The silly, silly general population are ALWAYS suckered into stupid debates and sideshows. Global warming took the steam right out of the economic revolution, didn't it. People are idiots. The are easily amused and ignorant to facts.
joneselius 2 years ago
Almost no one on the street could state what the settled IPCC science concludes.
The "conclusion" is; Most of the warming of the past 50 years is due to anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions.
The problem is that this is somewhat vague as most could mean 51%, and the fact that the warming from the last 50 years is roughly 0.5 degrees celcius, and half of anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions are not C02. I could go on about the faults of the computer models.
arbide2 2 years ago
Global Warming expert? Hes not a scientist, he just plays one on TV
Saying the evidence is conclusive, the evidence is clear, we have a lot of evidence, thats not a science argument, thats a political argument
That douche is a politician, not scientist
LordVigeous666999 2 years ago 2
Leave it up to liberal democrats to come up with a way to tax the weather.
wilsonspaulding 2 years ago 5
I've been a researcher and scientist for many years and can tell you that the worst sin a scientist can commit (aside from outright, deliberate falsification of data) is to throw out raw data and NO scientist does that unless he or she has something to hide. In fact, in my business it is a felony.
dwcarkuff 2 years ago 2
"dozens of hacked emails"?
there are 1,073 text files, each containing full threads many emails long.
kaffir2 2 years ago 3
The basic story is quite clear..yes it is.
CO2 does not change Global temperature to any significant degree.
The Earth is cooling despite huge increases in CO2 emissions. (the hidden decline, the "travesty" they can't explain)
What more does anyone need to know?
Atom299 2 years ago 4
"you don't wait for your house to burn down to buy insurance" but neither do you anger your neighbor and drive away value residents and cause your place to be less valuable, nor do you over pay for fire insurance that would cost almost as much as the house.. this guy is talented at hyperbole, if anything at all.
spyletu 2 years ago
lol if this were really an unquestioned study beyond the shadow of any doubt, you think australia wouldn't jump on the first band wagon for international political purposes? of course there are multiple factors at work here, but the fact that they decided to wait and see what the us and the un do can't be the sole reason for the delay.. what numerical order is this professor now, among the ever increasing line of famed professors who lack common sense?
spyletu 2 years ago
Notice how they call it CLIMATE CHANGE now and not GLOBAL WARMING anymore. Wasnt their initial argument that the earth was getting hotter? Feels like its getting cooler where I live. I dont need scientists to tell me something I can see for myself!
FinanceUS 2 years ago 4
its as scam hide you wallets
mlong5151 2 years ago 3
Al Gore is the mayor of Douchachusetts.
The prince of Assylvania.
EndTheFedRes 2 years ago 2
Forget whether climate change is real or not...
Even if it were real, Cap & Trade is not going to cut carbon emmisions or spur innovation, it's simply a mechanism to siphon money out of the economy and into the hands of eco-market makers and big business. And to introduce global governance.
svenp 2 years ago 4
This is how liberals do debate. We have a Climate Change believer debating... another Climate Change believer.
dragknuckle 2 years ago 4
This is an international scam for elitists to steal money from world tax payers to fund themselves that goes back to the 60s. I used to be global cooling and now it is warming. You can read u.n. docs and statements from even people like Gorbachev that should show this is a big hoax for money and power.
kanechi100 2 years ago 2
The funny thing is they keep speaking about the 'underlying science'. All their conclusions were derived by extremely small sample of data, no real experimentation. That is not science... The reason why there are many scientists that believe this is a joke (myself included), is that simple optics, physics and thermodynamics disprove any notion of trace carbon dioxide production having any environmental impact.
MrKyleGee 2 years ago
I disagree CO2 has a huge environmental impact, Plants get bigger, crops are more bountiful, oh yea and the trees give off more oxygen, LOL...
Seriously though, this is not just one reasearch stations e-mails, these guys hold the world temperature records and tell every other agency what the historical temperatures were. They refuse to release any source data, and ignore freedom of information requests. Even blackballing scientists that disagree..
What about the 30,000 scientists sueing Gore!
Can101276 2 years ago 5
Amazin how now that the emails have been exposed, they start recognizing the guilt of the fraud of the investigation but straight right away they say: There's no doubt of GW.
They make me sick!!
I hope people in their houses can think for themselves and come clear that WE NEED A SERIOUS INVESTIGATION that includes the WHOLE Scientist society.
kas617 2 years ago 6
I agree. I do not want some News Media telling me the 'facts' are in, so we must pass 'cap and trade'
I must agree GW is happening but that has been going on since the last Ice Age, even without humans burning coal.
Considering the current population, I believe humans prefer GW over an Ice Age.
iamavet 2 years ago 3
please someone stop me from punching mr dan esty in his false lying teeth
abstractduk 2 years ago
Prior to AR3 Briffa talks of pressure to produce a tidy picture of apparent unprecedented warming in a thousand years or more in the proxy data.
[This appears to be the politics leading the science] Briffa says it was "just as warm a thousand years ago." (0938018124)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
PikeSdream 2 years ago 3
# Michael Mann discusses how to destroy a journal that has published sceptic papers.(1047388489)
# Tim Osborn discusses how data are truncated to stop an apparent cooling trend showing up in the results (0939154709).
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
PikeSdream 2 years ago 4
Tom Wigley says that von Storch is partly to blame for sceptic papers getting published at Climate Research. Says he encourages the publication of crap science. Says they should tell publisher that the journal is being used for misinformation. Says that whether this is true or not doesnt matter. Says they need to get editorial board to resign. Says they need to get rid of von Storch too. (1051190249)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
PikeSdream 2 years ago 3
# Mann tells Jones that it would be nice to contain the putative Medieval Warm Period. (1054736277)
# Tom Wigley tells Jones that the land warming since 1980 has been twice the ocean warming and that this might be used by sceptics as evidence for urban heat islands.(1257546975)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
PikeSdream 2 years ago 4
Briffa is funding Russian dendro Shiyatov, who asks him to send money to personal bank account so as to avoid tax, thereby retaining money for research.(0826209667)
Tom Wigley discusses how to deal with the advent of FoI law in UK. Jones says use IPR argument to hold onto code. Says data is covered by agreements with outsiders and that CRU will be hiding behind them.(1106338806)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
PikeSdream 2 years ago 3
Briffa says he is sick to death of Mann claiming his reconstruction is tropical because it has a few poorly temp sensitive tropical proxies. Says he should regress these against something else like the increasing trend of self-opinionated verbiage he produces. Ed Cook agrees with problems.(1024334440)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
PikeSdream 2 years ago 2
Santer says he will no longer publish in Royal Met Soc journals if they enforce intermediate data being made available. Jones has complained to head of Royal Met Soc about new editor of Weather [why?data?] and has threatened to resign from RMS.(1237496573)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
PikeSdream 2 years ago 2
Reaction to McIntyres 2005 paper in GRL. Mann has challenged GRL editor-in-chief over the publication. Mann is concerned about the connections of the papers editor James Saiers with U Virginia [does he mean Pat Michaels?]. Tom Wigley says that if Saiers is a sceptic they should go through official GRL channels to get him ousted. (1106322460)
[Note to readers - Saiers was subsequently ousted]
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
PikeSdream 2 years ago 2
Tom Wigley tells Mann that a figure Schmidt put together to refute Monckton is deceptive and that the match it shows of instrumental to model predictions is a fluke. Says there have been a number of dishonest presentations of model output by authors and IPCC.(1255553034)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
PikeSdream 2 years ago 2
i ask, why does environment harming man/man harming environment taking precedent over truth that their are men harming mankind/nature such as, useless/spiritless fascists peons collaborating with insane in-bred things w/ fiat titles, to usurp nations & set forth lies as truth as well as promote the manufacture of wax apples while bulldozing apple orchards. Come folks, wake up, FUDD/PHD flakes, enemies of nature/mankind are on the ropes but own both sides of arguments on TV, it's WWE not real.
BankofSpirit 2 years ago 3
Jones tells Mann that he is sending station data. Says that if McIntyre requests it under FoI he will delete it rather than hand it over. Says he will hide behind data protection laws. Says Rutherford screwed up big time by creating an FTP directory for Osborn. Says Wigley worried he will have to release his model code. Also discuss AR4 draft. Mann says paleoclimate chapter will be contentious but that the author team has the right personalities to deal with sceptics.(1107454306)
PikeSdream 2 years ago 2
Funkhouser says hes pulled every trick up his sleeve to milk his Kyrgistan series. Doesnt think its productive to juggle the chronology statistics any more than he has.(0843161829)
Wigley discusses fixing an issue with sea surface temperatures in the context of making the results look both warmer but still plausible. (1254108338)
CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails
PikeSdream 2 years ago 2