I used to be a huge fan of Adams. But this guy is just a straight annoying sell out now. I deleted his podcast and unsubscribed because he's nothing like he used to be. All he does is think hes right all the time and complain. The Adam carolla of 2011 is a agrogant man who is unbearable. He has no relation to the freakin hilarious Adam who used to host loveline with dr drew. I WAS a fan of his since loveline started, but now he is disgusting and pathetic. He needs a reality check!
@mosthated2424 yeah. I disagreed with him from time to time, but he used to be an every-guy champion of the common man type, and I really dug that. Now he's just a rich are paying too much taxes whiner.
@shortfuse41 Those damn Asians! Ruining our society with their theft and thuggery. Causing degradation to our schools and our big cities. Knocking up our overweight white women and some of the throw-away trashy blonds! A single Asian in a classroom will disrupt and ruin the entire learning experience for the rest of the class. Couldn't solve a math equation if their life depended on it!.... Damn Asians!
Exactly!!!...So Thnx to the ACLU, peeps like Jeffry Dalmer can get married in the joint and ejaculate his cannibalism genes out into society...Get A CLUe....fuckers!!
Adam Carolla completely misses the point of the ACLU. They don't defend PEOPLE they defend PRINCIPLES. Obviously the people in the ACLU probably don't like the Westboro Baptist Church and their insane babble and protests at soldiers' funerals. Yet, they have a right to free speech, and the ACLU defended them.
When a person is jailed they don't lose all of their rights. I'm sure if we DNA tested everyone in the US we could reduce crime or console families, that doesn't meat it is a good idea.
@CAinfowarrior This is demonstrably false. They have defended the Westboro Baptist Church( The "God Hates Fags" people), Rush Limbaugh, and the klu klux klan. I doubt many see these groups as darlings of the left. The ACLU defends freedom of religion, speech, assembly, and many others.
@majinspy There's a difference between "defending rights" or "defending principles" vs. EXPLOITING them. How much do you think they made off class action lawsuits representing convicted rapists against prisons for not allowing them Pornography? The taxpayers get fucked, and that's absolutely all. If you REALLY think that the ACLU is about "rights", you're fucking high. They profit off crooks. Nothing more. You'll notice that 99% of their lawsuits are against taxpayer funded institutions.
@jjrants Of course they sue the government most of the time. Very few entities can take away rights. Employers and the government...that's about it.
Secondly, what is "exploiting" a right vs. "using" it? The ACLU defends principles regardless of the person being defended. It doesn't matter if the person whose rights are being violated is a crook or a rapist. They have certain rights and if they are violated I'm glad the ACLU defends those rights, instead of just defend the "good" people.
@majinspy "Very few entities can take away rights. Employers and the government...that's about it".
So if a woman's getting raped by force, and beaten.... you think at that very point and time SHE has any fucking "rights"?? Or do you think that people locking their doors scared shitless of hate groups like the KKK are excersizing their "rights"? The fact is, how much a person makes directly translates into their legal "rights". Look at public defendant stats w/ criminals vs. private ....
@jjrants You're trying to argue via emotion. Sorry. Of course a woman being raped is having her rights violated. If I have to say that, we are at a low point of conversation. That doesn't mean that the rapist doesn't have rights. He has the right to a fair and speedy trial. He has the right to an attorney. He has the right to remain silent. Do you think police should be able to beat a confession out of him? no? Then support the ACLU.
@majinspy No. My point is "rights" is subjective on every level. When you're talking about them LEGALLY, then it's absurd to think that they're actually equal in this country as they're based on the quality of defense, which is based on one's income. Think of it like this..... if a man kills another person in cold blood, and his attorney gets him off, than what he did, regardless of circumstances, is legal when it's all said and done. (and your example of the police officer is just as tainted...
@majinspy if not worse than the woman being raped example. The fact is, if a rich minority figure were arrested and the cuffs were ONE little knotch too tight, according to the ACLU, he would be liable for "excessive use of force". That's how fucking absurd they are, and that's an example of how they "exploit" the laws.
@majinspy legal representation. That's MORE than enough proof of how fucked up our judicial system is. As for the rights of crooks, it's only because of people like yourself and other supporters of the ACLU that they have more rights than the families of the victims they slaughtered.
@jjrants How do they have "more" rights? You're just ranting. Do you not think accused criminals should have lawyers? Should they not have a trial, just a summary execution? Why don't you pick a specific case the ACLU is involved in and tell me why you disagree.
@majinspy One specific case? (Here's their most recent bullshit) How about the girl recently in NC with the body piercing who (with the ACLU) decided to sue her school when they asked her to remove her nose ring. They were enforcing a dress code, she claimed it was a "religious piece" and her so called religion was the Church of Body Modification. Although it's NOT a tax exempt organization, and personal looks aren't protected unter title 7. The schools aren't broke enough, so this cunt sues.
@jjrants Apparently this is a real church that pre-exists this case. I.e. she didn't just make up a religion. She AND her mother are members of this church. The school can no more ban this nose ring than it can ban crosses or stars of david. The nose ring doesn't do anything to anyone.
I don't see how you can disagree unless you think some religions should have their freedom more protected than others.
@majinspy Are you fucking HIGH?? This "religion" is nothing more than a cheap ploy by the parents of the kid to get a quick buck, and for the ACLU to gain more popularity from dipshit liberals by filing a frivilous lawsuit. If you can't actually see this, then perhaps you should just state that ANY kind of organized conformity should be banned. (By the way... .they LOST a lawsuit on this same ground base in 2002 by a Costco employee. That's PROOF of how fucked up our system is).
@majinspy ....If you'd like a perfect example, check out the case they lost trying to ban a public display of the Ten Commandments in Kentucky. THIS is after they SUPPORT HATE SPEECH by assholes like the Westboro baptist church. So according to the ACLU, the westboro baptist church should have the right to picket at dead soldiers funerals, yet a state can't put up a public display of the ten commandments?? That's how fucking absurd those assholes and their supporters ARE.
@jjrants I agree with the ACLU again. The westboro people have a right to free speech. The government, also, must not favor a religion over another (or religion over non religion). The 10 commandments are NOT law...would you want to go into an American court room and have the Sharia over the door? I know I wouldn't. People have the right to be dumb, ignorant, and moronic. The government infringes on the liberties of others if it chooses religious sides.
@majinspy "The 10 commandments are NOT law...". Neither are the preachings of the Westboro Baptist Church! Right there is the hypocracy! The ACLU will defend the freedom of speech/ religion of one organization because they're radical assholes led by an attorney, yet will fight the freedom of speech/ religion of another. Your entire debate is a contradiction of terms. Why do YOU feel the HBC should have a right to free speech, yet another religion shouldn't? That's proof that they're a fraud.
@jjrants This is silly. The WBC is NOT the government! Are you arguing that the government has the same right to freedom of speech as individuals? That is nuts.
They aren't merely "groups". The government, as the enforcer of law and the monopoly of force, has a MUCH higher responsibility than a group of crazies.
For example, I have the right to mail a letter saying you should vote for a candidate. If the government did that it would be corrupt. Of COURSE there are different standards.
@majinspy If you were right, then they wouldn't have lost that case. Furthermore, It's PEOPLE who make up the government. As individuals, they do and should have the same rights as us. If your arguement held water, then basically, we would determine the rights based on one's employer. Does that make sense??The fact is, if they placed up a sign advocating athiesm, and it were the people complaining instead of a small minority (of my guess athiests), the ACLU would be there DEFENDING them....
@majinspy Look on the back of any legal tender. "In god we trust". Sound familliar? All this proves is that the ACLU is made up of ambulance chasing hypocritical scum attorneys out to make the quickest buck. Do I think the state SHOULD put up a sign posting the ten commandments, No. But do they have the RIGHT to? Of course!! Isn't that your whole arguement? Otherwise, your discriminating by preventing the "freedom of speech" based on one's employer. Like it or not, it's the SAME DAMNED THING.
@jjrants In God We Trust was added in 1957. Not exactly a "founding fathers" thing.
No it ISN'T the same thing. The government cannot takes sides in religion. This is why the 3rd amendment says that the GOVERNMENT shall make no laws respecting religion or and ESTABLISHMENT THEREOF. The 1st amendment gives rights to the PEOPLE.
@majinspy It doesn't matter when it was added. The point is, IT WAS. My question to you is why is it you don't deem THIS inappropriate, yet you feel posting the 10 commandments was. Iether way..... the ACLU lost the case so something's wrong in your theory altogether.
@jjrants a.) I'm allowed to disagree with the supreme court. Maybe I am wrong on this. Maybe the nose ring was disruptive.I don't think a religion should be able to disrupt a class.
b.) It wasn't a part of the Constitution and I feel that the "in god we trust" IS unconstitutional. It's just every single member of the supreme court is religious.
@majinspy I am more than happy to agree to disagree. However, from my observations, the ACLU seems far less interested in defending personal liberities withOUT contradicting themselves, then they are in making a quick buck. Personally, i'm an athiest & would find MUCH more credibility with them if they "leveled the playing field" in prosecuting cases on an equal basis. Not just one's that draw noteriety.
@jjrants I'm not sure what you mean by making a "quick buck". They are a non-profit organization. I'm pretty sure lawyers of the ACLU's caliber could make more money or as much working for a business or other organization. I don't see any contradictions. Sure, the WBC and what most ACLU members believe IS contradictory, but that doesn't mean universal support of freedom of speech is contradictory.
I'm only a member of ONE organization where I pay money: The ACLU.
@majinspy Look... we could go back and forth on this, but being attorneys for a non profit organization, I guarentee you they've found a way to make a hell of alot more than working in a private sector, considering the size of the ACLU. As for their viewpoints, If they were NEVER hypocritical, and always defended the constitution for anyone and everyone, then they simply wouldn't have lost the number of cases they have. Coincidentally, it always seems that they're questioning the laws made ...
@majinspy Look... we could go back and forth on this, but being attorneys for a non profit organization, I guarentee you they've found a way to make a hell of alot more than working in a private sector, considering the size of the ACLU. As for their viewpoints, If they were NEVER hypocritical, and always defended the constitution for anyone and everyone, then they simply wouldn't have lost the number of cases they have. Coincidentally, it always seems that they're questioning the laws....
@majinspy We could go back and forth on this all day, but unfortunately, the number of cases that they've lost only proves that they DONT strictly defend the constitution as some of us (meaning people who aren't convicted felons, or don't have a problem with a christmas tree on public property, or gang members, or pedophiles, etc. etc. etc) actually have rights too. Believe it or not, baby rapers not being allowed to rape children does not "interviene with their right to pursue happiness".
@jjrants The ACLU has never argued that people have a right to rape children. They have argued that people who have been accused of raping children get a fair day in court and are not abused in the investigation process. (Ya know, innocent until proven guilty and all that.)
The ACLU doesn't lose much. In any event, the fact that the supreme court says something DOES make law, but it doesn't mean it is ipso facto correct. Hell the supreme court upheld segregation...until it didn't.
@majinspy The ACLU supports NAMBLA. NAMBLA supports the idea of having sex with children. While NAMBLA's website has encouraged a NUMBER of rapes and child murders, you can argue with me that the ACLU is simply supporting "freedom of speech", however when they support this organizations freedom of speech, they CHOOSE to do these cases. You can twist the legal bullshit around this any way you'd like, however they step up and hand pick these cases. To defend the legal right for someone to ....
@majinspy be able to provide tools that encourage and promote things like child rape, is no different than doing it themselves.Again, I say this because they CHOOSE to pick these cases, and CHOOSE to represent them.Because money does buy the quality of legal representation in this country(to debate this point is absurd), they know very well they have a better chance of winning these hanis cases. As enablers, they endorse hate speech, rape, pedophelia,and other attrocities through representation.
@jjrants You're trying to argue that citizens don't have the right to advocate for the legalization of what is illegal. NAMBLA exercising its right of petition and redress is no different than people arguing pot should be legal FROM A 1ST AMENDMENT POINT OF VIEW. In fact, defending NAMBLA's right to petition ALSO defends the pot protesters, anti-war protesters, and tea party protesters.
What is wrong with advocating something without breaking the law? You're advocating thought crime.
@majinspy My issue is a person has to be 18 in order to vote (that's the difference here) & using the ideology of the ACLU, i'd like to ask you a pretty direct question:
Reading the law exactly how it is, and considering it's children who are victims of pedophiles and NOT their parents, it's safe to say that pedophiles have more rights than their victims, and the ACLU defends this by defending the rights of pedophiles. Would you say that's correct and if not, why?
@jjrants Name one right the ACLU claims a pedophile has that a regular person doesn't. A person doesn't lose the right to an attorney when accused of a crime. It would be a pretty weak right if that were true.
The subway "hypocrisy" isn't. The subway is a public place. It was built to be used by millions. The private offices of the ACLU are NOT a public place. The subway is basically underground streets. Do you think people should be subjected to random street searches?
@majinspy My point is, they CHOOSE these cases. This isn't to mention people like Charles Tierney. (A fucking pedophile who was also an ACLU head chapter). Let me ask you.... How many other ACLU members rape children and try to justify it? If you can find a list of entire cases made by the ACLU, you'll see how incredibly biased they are. As for the sign, the detail you mentioned is bullshit. Like the subways, that building is OPEN to the public. The principle of searches is to PROTECT people.
@majinspy *And a person does lose their rights to a degree. Felons can't vote. When a person's incarserated, they can't work, etc. etc. Why isn't the ACLU fighting to change these in general, and instead, ONLY working for the freedoms of the most repulsive people they can find?
@jjrants The loss of those rights is a PART of the law. The law clearly states that being a felon causes one to lose the right to vote. However the felon doesn't lose ALL rights. When THOSE rights are violated, the ACLU steps in. They have defended felons when their rights are violated.
BTW I'll never respond to you again. You've insulted me and shown an incapacity for discussion. Deuces.
@majinspy If the ACLU had their way, nobody would lost ANY of their rights, even after commiting hanis crimes. If your 5 yr old daughter got raped, wouldn't YOU want to know if theres a fucking pedophile living next door?? *One of many laws that protect us that the ACLU constantly fights against (Seriously... put yourself in a victims shoes, instead of a self reitious attorneys shoes). *And it's fine if you don't want to write back, but happy belated turkey day. :P
@majinspy Oh, one more thing: I mentioned that the ACLU is hypocritical with their cases. If you google aclu hypocracy, it will give you more examples than I care to share. However, if you'd like to read something amusing, google, "aclu hypocracy new york subway" and click the first link. I think that summarizes them up as well as it can be said. I would've sent a link, but I don't think youtube allows it here.
adam carolla - you are a product of your family's incestous relationship between your father to his sister, and you were brought to this world, a retard, lunatic, delusional, drug addict, ignorant, illiterate, uneducated, mongoloid inbred freak!!! You can use all the power of your father being a Mafia godfather, the boss, an expert on extortion, murder, kidnapping, and worst a sex maniac, to kill me! because if you don't I will write you a love letter for the rest of your God forsaken life!!!
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I love adam, have since 1996, but on this he is ignorant. Not only is he wrong about the "examples" he used, the ACLU defends the bill of rights, including what adam does and says, and half his traffic rights? tint on windows, etc? The ACLU fights for what adam believes, he just doesnt know it.
The ACLU is a mixed organization - on one hand, they do some good especially when they stick to strict Constitutional issues - free speech, voting rights, right to privacy, etc
But then they fall on the unconstitutional side of issues like gun rights, property rights, etc. And they go nuts with things like alleged racism, criminal rights, nativity scenes, etc.
Why? The Jewish leadership of the ACLU holds a personal bias against white, Christian America and this bias affects their agenda.
@utube9000 Far be it from me to defend jews, seeing as how most of our troubles in the middled east are because we support israel. But the jews were the ones who supported civil rights, and they were killed for it by the KKK and others. They tend to defend the underdog in ANY racial fight where rights are involved, cant be all bad. And look at what white christian america has given us lately, sarah palin? glen beck? limbaugh? hannity? Were screwed!
I understand what you're saying and that trips a lot of people up.
Do Jews help really "minorities" out of compassion? Some do, sure. But for many there is an ulterior motive - building political power for themselves and weakening the white power structure so that THEY can dominate.
Marcus Garvey stormed out of the NAACP because it was completely run by Jews. And it was Jews who dominated the slave trade.
White and black Christians were the ones who built America. Jews just hijacked it.
Easy there Rev Sharpton good grief. Please don't tell me you actually believe the ACLU to be altruistic with no political agenda whatsoever. Listen to any speech by Romero and you'll see why and if you can't then you're simply a blind idealogue like the people you just listed. Would you rather have fundamentalist Islam and Sharia Law than Christianity?? I think you'll find Christians, although far from perfect, have made far more strides the Muslims have since the 14th century.
So really, Jews tend to use blacks as a tool to achieve power for themselves. A perfect example of this is the Obama Administration.
Jewish money and media power put Obama into office. Now, the Jews have inside control of his Administration - Rahm Emanuel Chief of Staff, David Axelrod Senior Advisor, Jared Bernstein chief economist, Ben Bernake, chairman of the Fed, Dan Shapiro runs the Middle East desk at the NSC and many more.
Jews USE blacks and Hispanics to rule over whites.
Jews are caucasian, but that does not mean THEY SEE THEMSELVES as "white". There is a historical conflict between the Jews and the Wasps.
How do you know Obama isn't "pro-israel"? Has he stopped billions of US taxdollars from being sent to Israel? No. He's made a few statements showing sympathy to Middle Eastern Muslims, that's about it. Obama is pro-New World Order, pro-world government.
Really cause I am a white male that would have had no way to go to college, except to pay for it myself, and I have a wife, kid (one on the way), fought to get through an apprenticeship, wake up every morning at 3:50 am to make a living! Minorities have it more easy these days!
Actually, the ACLU has quite a bit of rhyme and reason to why they do what they do. So long as there is poor people and racism then groups like NAACP and ACLU make tons of money in taxes. If those things vanished, we wouldn't give them as much money so these once respectable groups will fight like hell to make sure that there are no fathers in these homes and that the poor can make tons of babies to perpetuate the failure cycle. It is all about job security. Perfectl sensible, if wretched.
youre as retarded as adam. let me guess, jr. college? The ACLU might do things we ALL disagree with but they only win their cases because they are RIGHT most of the time. they fight to uphold and defend the constitution and defend the rights of citizens without the ability or means to defend themselves.. Oooh rah.
We have found hundreds of Americans to have been wrongfully EXECUTED for crimes they didnt committ. Damn straight Im glad an NGO works to keep us true to innocent until proven guilty!
@BlackCell22 By your pathetic attempt at proper grammar and punctuation, I'd say junior college is well beyond your reach. For that matter the fifth grade seems to have passed you by. They only win because of their extortionist threats to groups and individuals. Their motto is "Do as we say or you will pay". As I said before, Romero, who now goes by the new last name "Rome" has made a SHITLOAD as an extortionist. Here's hoping a stray bullet finds his cranium before long.
@BlackCell22 The ACLU is a business. Nothing more. To say that they actually give a shit, or stand for civil liberties, is like saying PETA actually cares about stray cats.
*And if you don't know what PETA does behind closed doors, do some googling.
@jehovasinz When they sued the Boy Scouts (and won) for the seemingly millionth time over the Balboa Park incident in San Diego, they were reimbursed with taxpayer funds. I'd like to know why that is because they're not a GSE.
@tripleheshy this is pretty common there bud. Judges frequently award one party or the other their legal fees, not just for non-profits. Even so, these fees were miniscule compared to the overall amount the ACLU receives in donations.
@Homer92 Says someone who's afraid to be shown up. Typical leftist drive by. What a coward. This "non-profit" sure does make a embarrassing amount of money. It shoudn't receive a penny from taxpayers. It's as fake and corrupt as Acorn. I do like how Anthony has changed his last name to "Rome" don't you? Gee, we'll never catch on to that one.
FUCK the ACLU giving rights to all the wrongs
JN5B11 4 months ago
I used to be a huge fan of Adams. But this guy is just a straight annoying sell out now. I deleted his podcast and unsubscribed because he's nothing like he used to be. All he does is think hes right all the time and complain. The Adam carolla of 2011 is a agrogant man who is unbearable. He has no relation to the freakin hilarious Adam who used to host loveline with dr drew. I WAS a fan of his since loveline started, but now he is disgusting and pathetic. He needs a reality check!
mosthated2424 7 months ago
@mosthated2424 yeah. I disagreed with him from time to time, but he used to be an every-guy champion of the common man type, and I really dug that. Now he's just a rich are paying too much taxes whiner.
Homer92 7 months ago
Adam wins again!
VisionXray23 9 months ago
A great idea, but after 4 kids, it's 4 kids too many
djfinex 10 months ago
I think we all know which guys have 4 kids with 3 women.
shortfuse41 11 months ago 2
@shortfuse41 the lucky ones.
GiggleHz 11 months ago
@shortfuse41 Those damn Asians! Ruining our society with their theft and thuggery. Causing degradation to our schools and our big cities. Knocking up our overweight white women and some of the throw-away trashy blonds! A single Asian in a classroom will disrupt and ruin the entire learning experience for the rest of the class. Couldn't solve a math equation if their life depended on it!.... Damn Asians!
Joefest99 9 months ago
Band of angry lesbians LMAO.
FavreianVengeance 1 year ago
fuck that if a woman can kill a mans unborn child with out his permission he should be aloud to abandon his children
JESTER588 1 year ago
@JESTER588 if a man can put his cum in a chicks vag with out her consent, then she should be able to scramble the eggs in her cooter cave.
GiggleHz 11 months ago
@JESTER588 ah, the clever and completely moral theory of 2 wrongs making a right
pretorious700 10 months ago
@pretorious700 He doesn't seem to have a grasp of institutionalized oppression.
MrGrevy 10 months ago
Exactly!!!...So Thnx to the ACLU, peeps like Jeffry Dalmer can get married in the joint and ejaculate his cannibalism genes out into society...Get A CLUe....fuckers!!
screat 1 year ago
Adam Carolla completely misses the point of the ACLU. They don't defend PEOPLE they defend PRINCIPLES. Obviously the people in the ACLU probably don't like the Westboro Baptist Church and their insane babble and protests at soldiers' funerals. Yet, they have a right to free speech, and the ACLU defended them.
When a person is jailed they don't lose all of their rights. I'm sure if we DNA tested everyone in the US we could reduce crime or console families, that doesn't meat it is a good idea.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy yeah the PRINCIPLES of those in line with the left wing agenda, not everybody.
CAinfowarrior 1 year ago
@CAinfowarrior This is demonstrably false. They have defended the Westboro Baptist Church( The "God Hates Fags" people), Rush Limbaugh, and the klu klux klan. I doubt many see these groups as darlings of the left. The ACLU defends freedom of religion, speech, assembly, and many others.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy There's a difference between "defending rights" or "defending principles" vs. EXPLOITING them. How much do you think they made off class action lawsuits representing convicted rapists against prisons for not allowing them Pornography? The taxpayers get fucked, and that's absolutely all. If you REALLY think that the ACLU is about "rights", you're fucking high. They profit off crooks. Nothing more. You'll notice that 99% of their lawsuits are against taxpayer funded institutions.
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants Of course they sue the government most of the time. Very few entities can take away rights. Employers and the government...that's about it.
Secondly, what is "exploiting" a right vs. "using" it? The ACLU defends principles regardless of the person being defended. It doesn't matter if the person whose rights are being violated is a crook or a rapist. They have certain rights and if they are violated I'm glad the ACLU defends those rights, instead of just defend the "good" people.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy "Very few entities can take away rights. Employers and the government...that's about it".
So if a woman's getting raped by force, and beaten.... you think at that very point and time SHE has any fucking "rights"?? Or do you think that people locking their doors scared shitless of hate groups like the KKK are excersizing their "rights"? The fact is, how much a person makes directly translates into their legal "rights". Look at public defendant stats w/ criminals vs. private ....
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants You're trying to argue via emotion. Sorry. Of course a woman being raped is having her rights violated. If I have to say that, we are at a low point of conversation. That doesn't mean that the rapist doesn't have rights. He has the right to a fair and speedy trial. He has the right to an attorney. He has the right to remain silent. Do you think police should be able to beat a confession out of him? no? Then support the ACLU.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy No. My point is "rights" is subjective on every level. When you're talking about them LEGALLY, then it's absurd to think that they're actually equal in this country as they're based on the quality of defense, which is based on one's income. Think of it like this..... if a man kills another person in cold blood, and his attorney gets him off, than what he did, regardless of circumstances, is legal when it's all said and done. (and your example of the police officer is just as tainted...
jjrants 1 year ago
@majinspy if not worse than the woman being raped example. The fact is, if a rich minority figure were arrested and the cuffs were ONE little knotch too tight, according to the ACLU, he would be liable for "excessive use of force". That's how fucking absurd they are, and that's an example of how they "exploit" the laws.
jjrants 1 year ago
@majinspy legal representation. That's MORE than enough proof of how fucked up our judicial system is. As for the rights of crooks, it's only because of people like yourself and other supporters of the ACLU that they have more rights than the families of the victims they slaughtered.
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants How do they have "more" rights? You're just ranting. Do you not think accused criminals should have lawyers? Should they not have a trial, just a summary execution? Why don't you pick a specific case the ACLU is involved in and tell me why you disagree.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy One specific case? (Here's their most recent bullshit) How about the girl recently in NC with the body piercing who (with the ACLU) decided to sue her school when they asked her to remove her nose ring. They were enforcing a dress code, she claimed it was a "religious piece" and her so called religion was the Church of Body Modification. Although it's NOT a tax exempt organization, and personal looks aren't protected unter title 7. The schools aren't broke enough, so this cunt sues.
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants Apparently this is a real church that pre-exists this case. I.e. she didn't just make up a religion. She AND her mother are members of this church. The school can no more ban this nose ring than it can ban crosses or stars of david. The nose ring doesn't do anything to anyone.
I don't see how you can disagree unless you think some religions should have their freedom more protected than others.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy Are you fucking HIGH?? This "religion" is nothing more than a cheap ploy by the parents of the kid to get a quick buck, and for the ACLU to gain more popularity from dipshit liberals by filing a frivilous lawsuit. If you can't actually see this, then perhaps you should just state that ANY kind of organized conformity should be banned. (By the way... .they LOST a lawsuit on this same ground base in 2002 by a Costco employee. That's PROOF of how fucked up our system is).
jjrants 1 year ago
@majinspy ....If you'd like a perfect example, check out the case they lost trying to ban a public display of the Ten Commandments in Kentucky. THIS is after they SUPPORT HATE SPEECH by assholes like the Westboro baptist church. So according to the ACLU, the westboro baptist church should have the right to picket at dead soldiers funerals, yet a state can't put up a public display of the ten commandments?? That's how fucking absurd those assholes and their supporters ARE.
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants I agree with the ACLU again. The westboro people have a right to free speech. The government, also, must not favor a religion over another (or religion over non religion). The 10 commandments are NOT law...would you want to go into an American court room and have the Sharia over the door? I know I wouldn't. People have the right to be dumb, ignorant, and moronic. The government infringes on the liberties of others if it chooses religious sides.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy "The 10 commandments are NOT law...". Neither are the preachings of the Westboro Baptist Church! Right there is the hypocracy! The ACLU will defend the freedom of speech/ religion of one organization because they're radical assholes led by an attorney, yet will fight the freedom of speech/ religion of another. Your entire debate is a contradiction of terms. Why do YOU feel the HBC should have a right to free speech, yet another religion shouldn't? That's proof that they're a fraud.
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants This is silly. The WBC is NOT the government! Are you arguing that the government has the same right to freedom of speech as individuals? That is nuts.
They aren't merely "groups". The government, as the enforcer of law and the monopoly of force, has a MUCH higher responsibility than a group of crazies.
For example, I have the right to mail a letter saying you should vote for a candidate. If the government did that it would be corrupt. Of COURSE there are different standards.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy If you were right, then they wouldn't have lost that case. Furthermore, It's PEOPLE who make up the government. As individuals, they do and should have the same rights as us. If your arguement held water, then basically, we would determine the rights based on one's employer. Does that make sense??The fact is, if they placed up a sign advocating athiesm, and it were the people complaining instead of a small minority (of my guess athiests), the ACLU would be there DEFENDING them....
jjrants 1 year ago
@majinspy Look on the back of any legal tender. "In god we trust". Sound familliar? All this proves is that the ACLU is made up of ambulance chasing hypocritical scum attorneys out to make the quickest buck. Do I think the state SHOULD put up a sign posting the ten commandments, No. But do they have the RIGHT to? Of course!! Isn't that your whole arguement? Otherwise, your discriminating by preventing the "freedom of speech" based on one's employer. Like it or not, it's the SAME DAMNED THING.
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants In God We Trust was added in 1957. Not exactly a "founding fathers" thing.
No it ISN'T the same thing. The government cannot takes sides in religion. This is why the 3rd amendment says that the GOVERNMENT shall make no laws respecting religion or and ESTABLISHMENT THEREOF. The 1st amendment gives rights to the PEOPLE.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy It doesn't matter when it was added. The point is, IT WAS. My question to you is why is it you don't deem THIS inappropriate, yet you feel posting the 10 commandments was. Iether way..... the ACLU lost the case so something's wrong in your theory altogether.
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants a.) I'm allowed to disagree with the supreme court. Maybe I am wrong on this. Maybe the nose ring was disruptive.I don't think a religion should be able to disrupt a class.
b.) It wasn't a part of the Constitution and I feel that the "in god we trust" IS unconstitutional. It's just every single member of the supreme court is religious.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy I am more than happy to agree to disagree. However, from my observations, the ACLU seems far less interested in defending personal liberities withOUT contradicting themselves, then they are in making a quick buck. Personally, i'm an athiest & would find MUCH more credibility with them if they "leveled the playing field" in prosecuting cases on an equal basis. Not just one's that draw noteriety.
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants I'm not sure what you mean by making a "quick buck". They are a non-profit organization. I'm pretty sure lawyers of the ACLU's caliber could make more money or as much working for a business or other organization. I don't see any contradictions. Sure, the WBC and what most ACLU members believe IS contradictory, but that doesn't mean universal support of freedom of speech is contradictory.
I'm only a member of ONE organization where I pay money: The ACLU.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy Look... we could go back and forth on this, but being attorneys for a non profit organization, I guarentee you they've found a way to make a hell of alot more than working in a private sector, considering the size of the ACLU. As for their viewpoints, If they were NEVER hypocritical, and always defended the constitution for anyone and everyone, then they simply wouldn't have lost the number of cases they have. Coincidentally, it always seems that they're questioning the laws made ...
jjrants 1 year ago
@majinspy Look... we could go back and forth on this, but being attorneys for a non profit organization, I guarentee you they've found a way to make a hell of alot more than working in a private sector, considering the size of the ACLU. As for their viewpoints, If they were NEVER hypocritical, and always defended the constitution for anyone and everyone, then they simply wouldn't have lost the number of cases they have. Coincidentally, it always seems that they're questioning the laws....
jjrants 1 year ago
@majinspy We could go back and forth on this all day, but unfortunately, the number of cases that they've lost only proves that they DONT strictly defend the constitution as some of us (meaning people who aren't convicted felons, or don't have a problem with a christmas tree on public property, or gang members, or pedophiles, etc. etc. etc) actually have rights too. Believe it or not, baby rapers not being allowed to rape children does not "interviene with their right to pursue happiness".
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants The ACLU has never argued that people have a right to rape children. They have argued that people who have been accused of raping children get a fair day in court and are not abused in the investigation process. (Ya know, innocent until proven guilty and all that.)
The ACLU doesn't lose much. In any event, the fact that the supreme court says something DOES make law, but it doesn't mean it is ipso facto correct. Hell the supreme court upheld segregation...until it didn't.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy The ACLU supports NAMBLA. NAMBLA supports the idea of having sex with children. While NAMBLA's website has encouraged a NUMBER of rapes and child murders, you can argue with me that the ACLU is simply supporting "freedom of speech", however when they support this organizations freedom of speech, they CHOOSE to do these cases. You can twist the legal bullshit around this any way you'd like, however they step up and hand pick these cases. To defend the legal right for someone to ....
jjrants 1 year ago
@majinspy be able to provide tools that encourage and promote things like child rape, is no different than doing it themselves.Again, I say this because they CHOOSE to pick these cases, and CHOOSE to represent them.Because money does buy the quality of legal representation in this country(to debate this point is absurd), they know very well they have a better chance of winning these hanis cases. As enablers, they endorse hate speech, rape, pedophelia,and other attrocities through representation.
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants You're trying to argue that citizens don't have the right to advocate for the legalization of what is illegal. NAMBLA exercising its right of petition and redress is no different than people arguing pot should be legal FROM A 1ST AMENDMENT POINT OF VIEW. In fact, defending NAMBLA's right to petition ALSO defends the pot protesters, anti-war protesters, and tea party protesters.
What is wrong with advocating something without breaking the law? You're advocating thought crime.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy My issue is a person has to be 18 in order to vote (that's the difference here) & using the ideology of the ACLU, i'd like to ask you a pretty direct question:
Reading the law exactly how it is, and considering it's children who are victims of pedophiles and NOT their parents, it's safe to say that pedophiles have more rights than their victims, and the ACLU defends this by defending the rights of pedophiles. Would you say that's correct and if not, why?
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants Name one right the ACLU claims a pedophile has that a regular person doesn't. A person doesn't lose the right to an attorney when accused of a crime. It would be a pretty weak right if that were true.
The subway "hypocrisy" isn't. The subway is a public place. It was built to be used by millions. The private offices of the ACLU are NOT a public place. The subway is basically underground streets. Do you think people should be subjected to random street searches?
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy My point is, they CHOOSE these cases. This isn't to mention people like Charles Tierney. (A fucking pedophile who was also an ACLU head chapter). Let me ask you.... How many other ACLU members rape children and try to justify it? If you can find a list of entire cases made by the ACLU, you'll see how incredibly biased they are. As for the sign, the detail you mentioned is bullshit. Like the subways, that building is OPEN to the public. The principle of searches is to PROTECT people.
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants no ur thinking of the catholic church
adzug 1 year ago
@majinspy p.s. One more thing..... In reply to your comment, "Name one right the ACLU claims a pedophile has that a regular person doesn't"
CHILDREN CANT VOTE AND THEY'RE THE VICTIMS!! Unless you don't consider children "regualar people". THATS the fucking difference.
jjrants 1 year ago
@majinspy *And a person does lose their rights to a degree. Felons can't vote. When a person's incarserated, they can't work, etc. etc. Why isn't the ACLU fighting to change these in general, and instead, ONLY working for the freedoms of the most repulsive people they can find?
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants The loss of those rights is a PART of the law. The law clearly states that being a felon causes one to lose the right to vote. However the felon doesn't lose ALL rights. When THOSE rights are violated, the ACLU steps in. They have defended felons when their rights are violated.
BTW I'll never respond to you again. You've insulted me and shown an incapacity for discussion. Deuces.
majinspy 1 year ago
@majinspy If the ACLU had their way, nobody would lost ANY of their rights, even after commiting hanis crimes. If your 5 yr old daughter got raped, wouldn't YOU want to know if theres a fucking pedophile living next door?? *One of many laws that protect us that the ACLU constantly fights against (Seriously... put yourself in a victims shoes, instead of a self reitious attorneys shoes). *And it's fine if you don't want to write back, but happy belated turkey day. :P
jjrants 1 year ago
@majinspy Oh, one more thing: I mentioned that the ACLU is hypocritical with their cases. If you google aclu hypocracy, it will give you more examples than I care to share. However, if you'd like to read something amusing, google, "aclu hypocracy new york subway" and click the first link. I think that summarizes them up as well as it can be said. I would've sent a link, but I don't think youtube allows it here.
jjrants 1 year ago
What's so sad is that they're absolutely right. Criminals have more rights than victims, and the idea of "debt to society" is extinct.
jjrants 1 year ago 4
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432cestus80 1 year ago
you hate them and I hate them...
themack355 2 years ago
haha pack up your lesbian tent fold up the sandals and the beads and head out to the desert
Justin8806 2 years ago 3
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I love adam, have since 1996, but on this he is ignorant. Not only is he wrong about the "examples" he used, the ACLU defends the bill of rights, including what adam does and says, and half his traffic rights? tint on windows, etc? The ACLU fights for what adam believes, he just doesnt know it.
BlackCell22 2 years ago
The ACLU is a mixed organization - on one hand, they do some good especially when they stick to strict Constitutional issues - free speech, voting rights, right to privacy, etc
But then they fall on the unconstitutional side of issues like gun rights, property rights, etc. And they go nuts with things like alleged racism, criminal rights, nativity scenes, etc.
Why? The Jewish leadership of the ACLU holds a personal bias against white, Christian America and this bias affects their agenda.
utube9000 2 years ago
@utube9000 Far be it from me to defend jews, seeing as how most of our troubles in the middled east are because we support israel. But the jews were the ones who supported civil rights, and they were killed for it by the KKK and others. They tend to defend the underdog in ANY racial fight where rights are involved, cant be all bad. And look at what white christian america has given us lately, sarah palin? glen beck? limbaugh? hannity? Were screwed!
BlackCell22 2 years ago
I understand what you're saying and that trips a lot of people up.
Do Jews help really "minorities" out of compassion? Some do, sure. But for many there is an ulterior motive - building political power for themselves and weakening the white power structure so that THEY can dominate.
Marcus Garvey stormed out of the NAACP because it was completely run by Jews. And it was Jews who dominated the slave trade.
White and black Christians were the ones who built America. Jews just hijacked it.
utube9000 2 years ago
Easy there Rev Sharpton good grief. Please don't tell me you actually believe the ACLU to be altruistic with no political agenda whatsoever. Listen to any speech by Romero and you'll see why and if you can't then you're simply a blind idealogue like the people you just listed. Would you rather have fundamentalist Islam and Sharia Law than Christianity?? I think you'll find Christians, although far from perfect, have made far more strides the Muslims have since the 14th century.
tripleheshy 2 years ago
@BlackCell22 idiot
mauicletus 1 year ago
So really, Jews tend to use blacks as a tool to achieve power for themselves. A perfect example of this is the Obama Administration.
Jewish money and media power put Obama into office. Now, the Jews have inside control of his Administration - Rahm Emanuel Chief of Staff, David Axelrod Senior Advisor, Jared Bernstein chief economist, Ben Bernake, chairman of the Fed, Dan Shapiro runs the Middle East desk at the NSC and many more.
Jews USE blacks and Hispanics to rule over whites.
utube9000 2 years ago
@utube9000 A) Jews ARE white you tard, B) Obama is not very pro israel and C) you are so paranoid, it would be funny were it not so sad. good god
BlackCell22 2 years ago
Tard? Please, no need for name calling.
Jews are caucasian, but that does not mean THEY SEE THEMSELVES as "white". There is a historical conflict between the Jews and the Wasps.
How do you know Obama isn't "pro-israel"? Has he stopped billions of US taxdollars from being sent to Israel? No. He's made a few statements showing sympathy to Middle Eastern Muslims, that's about it. Obama is pro-New World Order, pro-world government.
utube9000 2 years ago
@BlackCell22 Adam would love to kill death row inmates I doubt ACLU will fight for that you effin idiot !!
greenwall100 2 years ago
Really cause I am a white male that would have had no way to go to college, except to pay for it myself, and I have a wife, kid (one on the way), fought to get through an apprenticeship, wake up every morning at 3:50 am to make a living! Minorities have it more easy these days!
JoeMadAsHell 2 years ago 2
Actually, the ACLU has quite a bit of rhyme and reason to why they do what they do. So long as there is poor people and racism then groups like NAACP and ACLU make tons of money in taxes. If those things vanished, we wouldn't give them as much money so these once respectable groups will fight like hell to make sure that there are no fathers in these homes and that the poor can make tons of babies to perpetuate the failure cycle. It is all about job security. Perfectl sensible, if wretched.
Cajaquarius 2 years ago
The ACLU is a ridiculous, off the deep end, group of lawyers
krogen42hull198 2 years ago 4
The ACLU lost its plot a very long ass time ago.
Wonderbread101 2 years ago 4
I'm a lifelong member of the ACLU, but I do agree, they go off the deep end sometimes.
Oh well, they still get fitty a month from my ass.
WinchesterQDouche 2 years ago 4
tool
aSlavetoBeauty 2 years ago
Great band.
WinchesterQDouche 2 years ago
@WinchesterQDouche YA RLY. This was 2004. Right in the middle of those godawful Bush years. They could have picked their battles better.
cinndave 2 years ago
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Everytimre Dr. Drew opens his mouth he has some 3rd rate talking point to give.
2SmashFu 2 years ago
By "3rd rate" you must mean insightful, honest, and on point.
Douchebag.
dbonanno 2 years ago 20
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No.
Just no.
You didn't get what I meant by 3rd rate, at all. Nor did you ask. You just assumed like an idiot. So you got upset and needed to vent. GG
2SmashFu 2 years ago
third rate? you mean an educated opinion and point of view?
go fuck yourself.
earthchild100 2 years ago
BLOW ME
2SmashFu 2 years ago
lets see that chode faggot
earthchild100 2 years ago
Who knew Adam was so smart and vocal.
pookeeeee 2 years ago 4
castrating deadbeat dads...that's a new one.
Tulkastaldo 2 years ago 3
The ACLU cares nothing more than stuffing their pockets with our tax dollars. Anthony Romero makes a shitload as an extortionist.
tripleheshy 3 years ago 31
youre as retarded as adam. let me guess, jr. college? The ACLU might do things we ALL disagree with but they only win their cases because they are RIGHT most of the time. they fight to uphold and defend the constitution and defend the rights of citizens without the ability or means to defend themselves.. Oooh rah.
We have found hundreds of Americans to have been wrongfully EXECUTED for crimes they didnt committ. Damn straight Im glad an NGO works to keep us true to innocent until proven guilty!
BlackCell22 1 year ago
@BlackCell22 By your pathetic attempt at proper grammar and punctuation, I'd say junior college is well beyond your reach. For that matter the fifth grade seems to have passed you by. They only win because of their extortionist threats to groups and individuals. Their motto is "Do as we say or you will pay". As I said before, Romero, who now goes by the new last name "Rome" has made a SHITLOAD as an extortionist. Here's hoping a stray bullet finds his cranium before long.
tripleheshy 1 year ago
@BlackCell22 The ACLU is a business. Nothing more. To say that they actually give a shit, or stand for civil liberties, is like saying PETA actually cares about stray cats.
*And if you don't know what PETA does behind closed doors, do some googling.
jjrants 1 year ago 8
@tripleheshy the aclu is private organization
AgentCarter 1 year ago
@AgentCarter Then explain why they're paid with taxpayer funds.
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tripleheshy 1 year ago
@tripleheshy I didn't know they got taxpayers money to fund their organization.
jehovasinz 1 year ago
@jehovasinz When they sued the Boy Scouts (and won) for the seemingly millionth time over the Balboa Park incident in San Diego, they were reimbursed with taxpayer funds. I'd like to know why that is because they're not a GSE.
tripleheshy 1 year ago
@tripleheshy this is pretty common there bud. Judges frequently award one party or the other their legal fees, not just for non-profits. Even so, these fees were miniscule compared to the overall amount the ACLU receives in donations.
Homer92 7 months ago
@tripleheshy umm the ACLU doesn't receive our "tax dollars." Might want to check up on that one.
P.S. I'm not going to respond. As a non-profit the ACLU has to make its books public. It's a fact that doesn't really deserve a debate.
Homer92 7 months ago
@Homer92 Says someone who's afraid to be shown up. Typical leftist drive by. What a coward. This "non-profit" sure does make a embarrassing amount of money. It shoudn't receive a penny from taxpayers. It's as fake and corrupt as Acorn. I do like how Anthony has changed his last name to "Rome" don't you? Gee, we'll never catch on to that one.
tripleheshy 7 months ago
@tripleheshy lol solid argument. Call me a name and then say something stupid. Typical wingnut. Have a nice life.
Homer92 7 months ago
@Homer92 I do every day. I doubt "Homer" does LOL.
tripleheshy 6 months ago
Wow, I'm shocked. He was emphatic while also being "fair and balanced" (for real, not like Fox "News"). Carolla rules!
johnclavis 3 years ago
"got just enough education to make them stupid"... good times
stein7171 3 years ago 6
It's a good call for moderation. Fight the fights that need to be fought, and don't waste your resources fighting over little more than principle.
danmoore5000 3 years ago 9
Adam's very right. Although the ACLU does some amazing work sometimes, it can also screw us over.
ohnoher 3 years ago 10
Sometimes? lol
wtfanman60 2 years ago