The human capacities are so great we've come so far in scientific studies opening our understanding into this beautiful world in this amazing universe, its a much more beautiful concept than a man-made god. Someone whom by all religious beliefs is perfect and ever loving but also commits genocides, permits slavery, rape and murder .. if you must follow His word, then let's not cherry pick, we should be blowing ourselves up like the taliban for Gods Sake!
@BeckaMorena "Someone whom by all religious beliefs is perfect and ever loving but also commits genocides, permits slavery, rape and murder .." Your point is incorrect, because not everyone has done these things who claim to be Christians. Actually, the majority have not. But in the old times, even atheists permitted slavery, committed genocide, raped, murdered, etc. Not just Christians. Please don't cherry pick if you must "speak out" against others.
I like how you made your reply from what seems to be the bathroom :) Fitting setting :) Next time you should make your reply while sitting on the john and taking a shit! Haha.
when you die you will see what's true. the only way you can get to god is through jesus right? okay so. to believe in god and die you gain his promises. to deny him and die you have hell to pay. so quit with the "there's no proof" hellooooo it's called faith! to have faith he is real by living accordingly to his word. The option is yours. you screaming you don't believe n god is only securing your spot n hell. think about it! you die today? and god appears, what will you say then?
Why P4CM? Why that ministry? I also happen to notice that you choose to focus on the younger inexperienced (is that fair to say?) speakers. You haven't begun to refute the words of a pastor like Justin. You're smart, but you're condescending. Like nitpicking on simple things like the use of a phonetic term such as 'an'. Anyways, what are you trying to do? Debunk Christianity and its beliefs/faith? Or are you trying to demonstrate the effects of poor research?
@BriannaTVOnline P4CM is a completely dishonest and cowardly group. I have yet to hear a single word from anyone from the group. All I get is people like you coming to their defense. I don't have to debunk Christianity, the burden of proof is on the people claiming it is true. And no, it isn't fair to say that I focus on the younger and inexperienced speakers. Don't speak if you don't know what you are talking about.
@maverik713 you seem to have knowledge, but are fighting a lost cause. JESUS shall return one day. you should research laminin. study the actual design of it and its purpose. then relate it to colossians 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. also look up the video called how great is our GOD by louie giglio. you seem to talk about people wrong usage of words but ive yet to see proof of your claims. and you say truth is like a shadow, well then step into the light
@maverik713 and one more thing, you like to call people out and talk about if you want to be taken seriously people shouldnt say things that dont make sense. i challenge you to listen to yourself. especially listen at around 8 mins and 45 sec. you said you would continue to point out the consistencies, inaccuracies and flat out lies. wait what sense does that make? consistencies??? do you mean inconsistencies??? or am i being too picky???
@wearesavedbygodsgrac I listened, and I said inconsistencies. You should listen again. Even if I had said consistencies, that would have just been me misspeaking, whereas saying "a ape" instead of "an ape" is grammatical assault.
@maverik713 no sir i listened again. you said consistencies. i listened several times. sounds like you wanted to say it but didnt. and as far as you trying to disprove them and sound sophisticated, try to use actual proof instead of others words. and a grammatical assault? that just sound like someone is trying to hide a sense of a personal lack of healthy confidence and hides it w a great sense of pride. you once had questions about GOD but quit because you became prideful and blinded
@wearesavedbygodsgrac I can understand why you might think I said it incorrectly, because it's more on the end of the word "the" that comes right before it. I always laugh when I get told that I want to sound sophisticated. Have you ever thought that maybe some people just talk like this? Funny that you say I should use actual proof. You do realize that Christianity has no actual proof right?
@maverik713 when you die you will see what's true. the only way you can get to god is through jesus right? okay so. to believe in god and die you gain his promises. to deny him and die you have hell to pay. so quit with the "there's no proof" hellooooo it's called faith! to have faith his real by living accordingly to his word. The option is yours. you screaming you don't believe n god is only securing your spot n hell. think about it! you die today? and god appears, what will you say then?
@itsdaddii Threats of hell don't do anything to me because there is no evidence that hell exists. And if I died and found out god was real, I would ask why he didn't do a better job of making his presence known. Then I would ask why he ordered such horrible things. And why he never explicitly condemned rape. And why he explicitly allowed slavery. And why he made a bet with satan. Or why he never just destroyed satan. I'd have a ton of questions.
@wearesavedbygodsgrac Also, please don't tell me why I do what I do. I don't believe in a god because there is no evidence that one exists. Not because I'm mad at god, scared of something, or any other reason you might come up with. I don't know why you believe and even if you told me, I'd only be able to take your word on it. I wouldn't know for sure.
@maverik713 theres plenty of proof of events and artifacts mentioned in the bible. and for your very own life and how it came about can not truly be proved. so i your life real? that cant explain how the earth and universe came about, they have theories but no proof. you being here able to message and live everyday can not be explained by scientists. therefore you must be just an imaginary image. did you research laminin and colossians 1:17??????? explain that to me please...
@maverik713 and you cant disprove it either. you cant explain life, the earth, the universe anything in this world. so how can any of it be real??? is this world and life we live just a figment of our imagination. you see im not afraid to stand up for CHRIST JESUS. one day you will bow before HIM and confess HIM as LORD AND SAVIOR. but hopefully before then you stop working for the enemy and join the army of life
Yes, it has to be observed. THe observation is life, evolution is the explanation of after life starts, and A-biogenesis before. Creationist can spute out all the crap they want, that doesnt change the fact that evolution is demonstrably true. Also, We have never SEEN pluto orbit the sun. Not even once. Yet we say that it orbits the sun based on math and physics. Science doesnt require that you see it with your own eyes.
@maverick look it appears to me you always just try to get people so confused on the subject that they have absolutely no counter claim because they have no idea what you are talking about. I have pit this following statement in another post but; if the big bang theory happen to be real (which it is not god created everything ex. Mountains trees flowers sky ect.) where did the things come from that created the big bang there has to be a higher power (which is god) because things had to come fro
@avery9997 Thats an argument from ignorance. I could put anything there. I could say """And that is where my pokemon god comes in and start out""". THe counter argument will always be """How do you know""". Because you are using the argument that ""If they dont have the answer to everything, and the explanation for everything, then my God exist""". Ludacris, you still have to prove that your God exists.
i just wanted to throw in that evolution has been observed to take place... look up john endler's guppy experiment... the experiment has been done both in a lab and in the field in the amazon : )
The scientific method does no require theories to be "observable" in order to be conclusive. It requires them to be demonstrated, testable, repeatable and mathematically indicated. This is the exact opposite of faith since a great deal data is collected, scrutinized and mathematically evaluated to indicate the big bang is at least plausible.
Even then, should new data come along to indicate something else, science (unlike religion) will correct itself.
@HIGHLANDERxMCLAMBIE Unless you live in a cave, drink water from river, and use leaves for clothing, you are using inventions and results of efforts of those futile men who call themselves scientists. Sorry, but the Pope didn't invent the Internet.
Just going from a comment i saw you make about how atheists are viewed in the black community, i think its weird that they ignore that god himself endorses slavery. Just a thought.
Hi Maverik713. Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to have a personal vendetta against P4CM. I'm not sure whether you are a homosexual or an atheist, maybe both since you are so passionate about both topics. Correct me again if you will. I'm the kind of christian who believes that if you love your fellow human beings, you tell them about the love of Christ BUT one can't stop there, He is also holy and just and therefore one has to also make known that the wages of sin is death...
@JESUSISMASTER you are also the type of christian who cannot come up with any form of coherent argument, and therefore descends to using verbal abuse (not what I would regard as abuse - i prefer the term shitbags - because if someone called me an atheist or a homosexual, I really wouldnt give a shit, but for you these are the worst insults you can throw at someone - perfect example of christian love).
@leorklier Something I come to realize is that a homosexual or an atheist doesn't find it to be a verbal abuse if someone recognize them or call/ask them who they are. I'll take it you don't have any of these persons for a friend, since you obviously think otherwise...or maybe you just didn't understand my simple comment...I would be cruel to hold it against you..blessed love always.
@leorklier really nicely put. jesusismaster is typical of many "good loving christians" who in reality actually hate not love. And they learned to justify this hate from the bible. Maverik713 has a brain and uses it well while jesusismaster is simply reduced to slinging "insults" like he was a 10 year old boy.
@JESUSISMASTER I would not expect better from a god loving,love your brother christian. You are suppose to pray for this man! instead you suggest he may be homosexual or an atheist. This is loving your brother? It has to be obvious that he is an atheist, he does everything but say it a 100 times and even if he was homosexual, what business of yours is it? The true danger in religion is the people who believe in it and you make the statement true.
@JESUSISMASTER How CAN you talk of love... And at the same time you speak of death? It's no longer about not sinning, it has become about following Jesus. Not following Jesus has been MADE into a sin. So its follow me or die. And we call it love. Sickening Irony. The same kind of love you'll get from any kind of dictator.
Wait a second, a black Dude living in The United States of Jesus-land, and this Dude isn't on his knees praying to the Invisible Man, who lives in the sky? I think I must be asleep and dreaming. I'll wake up soon. :-)
One of my favorite scientists is Neil deGrasse Tyson. You and him must be the only two black Atheists living in the States. Good video Dude. Lordy Lordy Lordy, everyone else must be in church this Sunday. He he.
@bigboy45454545 Actually, there are many black atheists. They are here on YT, as well as out in the world. Only problem is, for many black atheists, admitting that is social suicide. Thanks, more vids coming (hopefully) soon.
@maverik713........I know it. I'm just joking around. I think admitting that you're an Atheist in Jesus-land, is social suicide for anyone in your country. Let's change this, shall we.
Purushadasa doesn't allow any comments against her viewpoint. also, she doesn't know what a theory is. here's a quote: "It is an unproven idea with no evidence to back it up, it has always meant that, and it always will mean that." also, she says her channel is a bastion of free speech. god, what a dipshit
The truth is....God exist... The proof is God exist...that's the bottom line. Every knee WILL bow in reverence and respect to the it's Creator...either now or later. I pray, for you all's sake, that you choose now. Repent now before it's too late. Be blessed
Scientists can invent a machine that shows us life 3 times over through the eyes of 39999 people at once... But then what?... A human mind can't even relate or function once it reaches a certain point in exsistence... God Is God not because he wants to knock on your door and tell you the truth about something out of a childrens book.... But because He created all things and wants you to return to that place of peace and togetherness... The blood of Christ is the only way back.
It's like.... People can see the physical and trace it as far back as they want. I'm almost 100% positive that the big bang occured... But I'm sure God has a completely different name for it.. Just like He probablly has a name for the million other bangs that happened before he created us.. Just because you're scratching on the surface of what God's doing doesn't mean that you've discovered life..
you have a very good style of refuting theological arguments, its very articulate and methodical, you are probably the best person on youtube to address these arguments
@ohmc303 You're an idiot. That video post represents the organization of the PC4M group. She was at a group speaking seminar of some kind or something else of that nature. Chances are like 90% that she didn't even post that video, it was someone else who posted it...
And the person who posted the video probably doesn't know the specifics of what you are asking.
Actually Flyboy, that is the P4CM group's channel. They have several channels that all reference P4CM. Maybe you should go visit their pages before you start in on someone so harshly. You called ohmc303 an idiot and a douchebag when you are the one making incorrect assumptions about the issue.
I wonder where you figured that it was a 90% chance this wasn't from a P4CM person.
Scientific evidence has to be replicable and forensic science uses replicable scenarios. Atheism is a type of faith. I love the assumed intelligence that atheists believe they hold, when in truth they are ignorant to the miracles all around them. There is no chance that this universe and everything in it could ever be created without a designer. Blind guides and fools.
That is an argument from incredulity. To say that something isn't true because you can't fathom it doesn't provide evidence for your belief, it just boldy asserts it.
And your statement about the universe is true. If the universe was created, then it would need a creator. But you have no way to show evidence that this creator exists. Even if you did, you would have to find out what made that being exist.
The argument is that if there is no way to physically prove the origin of creation, it is more likely that the origin lies outside of the physical realm. I'm not pointing toward one god or another, but it seems ignorant to stand by weak evidence such as evolutionary theories which leave massive amounts questions about the missing links. Using numbers in the trillions to estimate the time evolution took to occur is inconceivable and a good way to pad a theory to make anything seem possible.
Also there is no such thing as no faith. You put your faith in your self/lame unscientific guesses at origins/dawkins/darwin/textbooks written by subjective sources, rather than be thankful to the Creator who you were meant to be in relationship with. Wishful thinking and skepticism should help you see that if you want to hear it, it's probably not true. You are accountable for everything that you've ever done outside of the will of God if you haven't trusted Jesus for forgiveness of sins.
We all choose to believe certain sources as well, because nobody can do all of this research first hand. You believe scientists that have made best guesses at origins of life, but have never observed the occurrence nor have found any replicable situations proving it to be true. These men/women are also going on the basis that there could never be anything outside of what is seen to human eye. This assumption says that if a human can't measure it, then it must not be real.
The "scientific method" itself misses the possibility that God may not be measurable by human standards. I could create something called the "religious method" enter it into a bunch of texts and say that if something goes against my beliefs its wrong because of the religious method. The scientific method is a way for scientists to try to disprove religion in the physical realm. They claim triumph foolishly thinking that God can be tested like a lab rat.
Brilliant, loved it. I found it funny that P4CM would post something full of triumphalist rhetoric about how they've dismantled atheism - but not have the humility or genuine intellectual curiosity to actually allow someone to debate, comment, rate, or otherwise disagree with them. Either way you put green bandana lady to shame. More intelligent, more erudite, more gracious and professional by far.
What I noticed first, and most interesting, is that P4cm disabled the responces on the video, as if they expressly DIDN'T wan to have people answer her points... Isn't that contradictory to the video being refered to as a "debate"?
You have some really excellent videos! By the way, the "ad hominem" thing you mentioned near the end of this video, you weren't being picky at all. I agree, when people mispronounce words etc, it does sort of blow their credibility. When they say things like "an ape mutating into a man" it shows that they shouldn't be debating on a subject that they seem to know nothing about.
You want an argument against ID? ID is NOT a scientific theory because you cannot test it, reproduce it or even freakin observe it. ID is invisible, rooted in creation myth. It basically says "well this looks hard, God must have done it." Even IF for the sake of argument ID is true, wtf is the point of researching anything ever again. The answers for every scientific query could be reduced to "God did i.t" Sounds a bit boring if you as me..
true but, i dont understand how something came from nothing. somewhere down the line someone had to make something out of nothing, if you know what i mean..
just ask yourself how was the world created, and after every answer ask yourself, "and how did that happen".
No... Wrong, the universe would be able to continue creating then and it would if it was a Creator.
The point is that we can't figure everything out using skepticism and lab testing when it comes to spirituality and philosophical questions. Science can't do it. It isn't good enough. Sorry to see that foolish people keep worshiping science as their savior, when all it does is confirm it's insufficiency to explain things outside the physical realm.
You are correct, since nothing paranormal nor spiritual has ever been proven to exist, science has nothing to do with it.
Science only deals with what actually exists but the problems come in when what actually exists and what is justifiably found to have happened are counter to non-scientific reliefs.
Once this happens the non-science folks claim that 'that can't possibly be justifiable because it isn't true to what we already believe'.
Can you explain to me how this isn't what is happening?
Apparently you are unable to comprehend science's limitations. If science can not explain something such as the origin of life, then it is not good enough for such questions. Since science can't explain the origin of life, then the answer must be outside of the physical realm. Science only deals with what is physically measurable not what "actually exists." There are many, many questions that science can not and will not ever be able to answer such as why do we have a desire for purpose?
What utter arrogance to think that we should know everything instantly. Science does not *yet* know, that doesn't mean it will never know. 200 years ago science didn't know how the evolution evident by fossils etc happened, now it does.
Every year that passes builds on the knowledge of science, just wait.
I would actually be surprised if psychologists didnt have coherent theories why some people desire a purpose imposed upon them from the outside.
"Since science can't explain the origin of life, then the answer must be outside of the physical realm. Science only deals with what is physically measurable not what "actually exists".
Science deals with that which manifests in our universe, if it doesn't manifest then it is not only unmeasurable but also ineffectual. You are claiming there is something outside of the physical realm and asserting it to be true as a false dichotomy against science.
From the foundation of the scientific method, biased scientists have set up methods to purposely discount anything except that which is replicable. The foolishness they believe to be intelligent, is the belief that the Creator is uncontainable by human methods. The Creator does not need a stamp of approval from creation. That would be ludicrous.
He is glorified whether you give him glory or not. His creation itself, living, breathing, moving, glorifies him. He doesn't need us, rather he wants to be in relationship with us. Humanism makes gods out of individuals and tickles the ears of those who are arrogant to the reality of a Creator.
"Since science can't explain the origin of life, then the answer must be outside of the physical realm."
There is no reason for something we don't know of to be assumed to be supernatural, considering there has been nothing else proven to be caused by something supernatural. As I said, explain to me why you would make such an assumption?
I'm not out to discuss a creator, i'm out to discuss the problem of religious people ignoring what has been proven to exist, (not only origins, but the timeline of the earth). It's not as if changes in church exceptance don't happen, it's just that I find it ludicrous to wait on the group word before accepting what has been proven true.
Example: 6000 years is just laughable false, unless thousands of factors have changed and it is rediculous to assume that. But people unthinkingly stick to it.
"somewhere down the line someone had to make something out of nothing"
Why does it have to be someONE? I see this mentality a lot. Always asking WHO created the universe instead of WHAT. It could very well be a "what." Just some food for thought.
You have addressed her methods of debate... but what about the actual content? This video seems to be putting down the way she tells it instead of what she's saying. I'm going to check out the Nova thing to find out what it says about intelligent design though. I want to know the arguments against that. I believe in God and creation but I appreciate people sharing their thought out opinions and research. I like to know all sides and evidences of theories.
@jeanmarie0902 By addressing her methods of debate, he shows why her arguments against atheism do not hold up. If an argument is not sound, it has no content worth mentioning.
As iman stated, my video's purpose is to shed light on the type of dishonest tactics that some religious people engage in. While I could go into further detail as to why her arguments don't hold up, I feel that showing how she is a completely dishonest person is a better route.
I did that because it then casts doubt on anything she or the P4CM crew says, which they deserve until they change their dishonest ways.
Also, she isn't debating. Debates happen with more than one person. I made it a debate by adding myself into the mix. And in almost six months, I haven't received one word from anyone in the P4CM group in response to the video responses or messages to any of their related accounts.
oh shit, now people can commit whatever crime they want as long as nobody sees it. it's totaly fine because nobody was there too see it. DNA, fingerprints, a corpse, tools or indeed any evidence of any kind is WORTHLESS acording to that P4CM woman.
origin of life vs. committing a crime... not a great correlation there and there is NO evidence for the big bang theory either. All of these theories are just guesses at alternate theories to help people who want to believe no god exists sleep at night and not worry about suffering for eternity, because they knew they were created for a purpose but decided to live in sin instead.
we try use scientific methods such as dna ascertain the exact process.
and unfortuantly for you, no matter how much you bitch and cry about it, the general concensus is that the big bang is the most likely origin of the universe because of evidence.
none of this disproves god in ANY way.
and if you only do good things because you believe you will suffer otherwise, you are a bad person in any religion.
"oh shit, now people can commit whatever crime they want as long as nobody sees it." ? There is no sound logic in that, which is why it's hard to see the correlation between the origin of life and a crime.
The big bang theory is a joke... Something has to be existent for it to occur no matter how small. Something can not come from nothing. It never has. Only a fool would say that a bunch of bricks sitting in a yard for long enough would eventually become a house.
Why such resistance to the idea of a definite beginning of the universe? It goes right back to that first argument, the cosmological argument: (a) Everything that begins to exist must have a cause; (b) If the universe began to exist, then (c) the universe must have a cause.
You can see the direction in which this argument is flowing--a direction of discomfort to some physicists.
i do beleive in a definate begining, and yes i believe god.
but i also believe that the big bang theory is the closest theory we have concerning the orrigins of the universe, as it provides answers to a lot of important questions.
in response to the puppet stuff,which is usually one of the main points in "purpose".nobody wants to be controlled.Think about it like one of those books that asks you where you want turn to next pg.2 or pg.3 you decide.Same with your life it is all predetemined with infinite possibilites=destiny .And you choose=free will
Great response. It's good to see someone intelligent.
Your words are gibberish to her though. She's a drama queen who thrives on the attention her religion gives her. Even though her understanding of her words is less than rudimentary.
Oh well she's sick one day, or wants to make another video she'll come running back to science for help :)
you are so close to believe in God i can feel it, you are God's puppet he makes u think like that now, so u can witness to millions of people who believe just like you...........
Haha, it's always hilarious to watch less intelligent people jump from "today's scientific explanation for this specific question _may_ be wrong" to "an intelligent creator is a reasonable alternative and my belief in it is justified". It's the perfect way to explicitly state that "I'm really stupid and should really keep my mouth shut".
God created you and ME not you and I. Learn grammar you ignorant god lover. You wouldnt say "god created I" would you? Then again you probably would. Maybe you've been watching that stoopid show 'the hills' where the ignorant skanks make this mistake all the time.
Here's the rule: If you take the "you and" or "(name) and" out of the sentence does it make sense?
God and me went to the park is wrong because if you take out the "God and" it makes no sense. God and I went to the park is fine.
you know it doesn't really matter how the english comes off at this point im not trying to prove anything to you unbelievers but please believe that you will have to answer to God, so you could have saved a lot of your time and energy mr. Like i said before your defense is wack and we all will be judged shortly. God have mercy on us please!
Your truth is yours why do you feel the need to dictate it to me? What you think happens to you when you die is your own personal opinion so why think you know what happens to me? I'm honest enough to say I don't know. Why can't you be honest with yourself?
If I am blinded, explain why God would "designed" archaeal parasite Nanoarchaeum equitans seperate 5' 3' halves tRNA combined through tRNAiMet, tRNAThr, tRNAIle (and others). If evolution is false, explain how the two halves correspond with amino acids in the codon table. Scientists even found the phylum type combinations. Why did God do this? That is VERY misleading, and doesn't God hate misleading and-or confusion?
@ElBurrotheDiablo666 I heard bullshit about they found the blood of jesus and they said it had only twenty one chromosomes and that proves jesus was a virgin birth.
Damn Maverick !!! You picked up a weak opponent on this one hehe...So easy that you actually did it while taking a dump ? Anyways, congrats for using calm and reasonable arguments. Regards,
You pretty much owned yourself with the statement Jesus has never existed. There is undeniable proof he once lived and it was actually observed by credible sources that he was crucified. Although there is no proof God exists, at least people claimed to have witnessed the works of Him. You can't say the same thing about the big bang theory. The existence of God is therefore more likely than some common atheist beliefs.
Actually, no. We see evidence of the big bang. Cosmic background radiation, red shift, that kind of thing. To be completely honest, not everyone considers the sources for eye witness accounts of a jesus as credible. There were greeks who saw the heroes in their myths, saw the fantastic beasts and all other crazy things. When it comes to a god, how is it more believable exactly? How is an invisible being who created himself and everything more believable than modern science?
Brilliant execution! Clear, scholarly and to the point. The author of this video effectively dismantles the tired arguments of the supposed atheism "dismantler" argument for argument. This presentation effectively backs the opposed into a corner that, should she choose to stay there, will result in the acceptance of uncompromising contradictions. Highly recommend!
Wow, the only thing your proof of is a 3rd grade education. Airlight, please read books outside of your religious beliefs so you can communicate with the outside world.
I've read many other books...I just started reading The God Delusion and another one...Is the world of evolution a perfect world? Or is their lenguage truth? Do athiest have a perfect speech?
No one is perfect, the theory of evolution is being improved by scientists to fit the evidence. In other words, the evidence found has the potential to change evolution according to what it tells us. Do we have a perfect speech? Can't understand what that means so until you clarify, I will classify it as mindless gibberish.
Can an orange tree bear apples, or a lemon tree bear apples? But you can increase them in size, right? The apple: small, big, colored etc is still an apple.
Kent Hovind did it quite a lot when he was still able to do his seminars. There's a hilarious point where he goes into a quotemine, and tries to claim that a book is describing the formation of the universe when it was talking about the formation of our solar system.
@maverik713 :) i didn't say i don't take you seriously, quite the contrary.i'm on your side but u have to admit it's ironic/funny that u are saying this while in a bathroom, is it not?! keep up the good work;)
The human capacities are so great we've come so far in scientific studies opening our understanding into this beautiful world in this amazing universe, its a much more beautiful concept than a man-made god. Someone whom by all religious beliefs is perfect and ever loving but also commits genocides, permits slavery, rape and murder .. if you must follow His word, then let's not cherry pick, we should be blowing ourselves up like the taliban for Gods Sake!
BeckaMorena 2 months ago
@BeckaMorena "Someone whom by all religious beliefs is perfect and ever loving but also commits genocides, permits slavery, rape and murder .." Your point is incorrect, because not everyone has done these things who claim to be Christians. Actually, the majority have not. But in the old times, even atheists permitted slavery, committed genocide, raped, murdered, etc. Not just Christians. Please don't cherry pick if you must "speak out" against others.
amanda2324 2 months ago
I like how you made your reply from what seems to be the bathroom :) Fitting setting :) Next time you should make your reply while sitting on the john and taking a shit! Haha.
karlhschro 2 months ago
I've watched one or two of her videos; she's articulate but mindless.
YY4Me133 2 months ago
Black atheists fill my heart with joy.
KevinReconAlpha 7 months ago
when you die you will see what's true. the only way you can get to god is through jesus right? okay so. to believe in god and die you gain his promises. to deny him and die you have hell to pay. so quit with the "there's no proof" hellooooo it's called faith! to have faith he is real by living accordingly to his word. The option is yours. you screaming you don't believe n god is only securing your spot n hell. think about it! you die today? and god appears, what will you say then?
itsdaddii 7 months ago
Why P4CM? Why that ministry? I also happen to notice that you choose to focus on the younger inexperienced (is that fair to say?) speakers. You haven't begun to refute the words of a pastor like Justin. You're smart, but you're condescending. Like nitpicking on simple things like the use of a phonetic term such as 'an'. Anyways, what are you trying to do? Debunk Christianity and its beliefs/faith? Or are you trying to demonstrate the effects of poor research?
BriannaTVOnline 9 months ago
@BriannaTVOnline P4CM is a completely dishonest and cowardly group. I have yet to hear a single word from anyone from the group. All I get is people like you coming to their defense. I don't have to debunk Christianity, the burden of proof is on the people claiming it is true. And no, it isn't fair to say that I focus on the younger and inexperienced speakers. Don't speak if you don't know what you are talking about.
maverik713 9 months ago 2
@maverik713 you seem to have knowledge, but are fighting a lost cause. JESUS shall return one day. you should research laminin. study the actual design of it and its purpose. then relate it to colossians 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. also look up the video called how great is our GOD by louie giglio. you seem to talk about people wrong usage of words but ive yet to see proof of your claims. and you say truth is like a shadow, well then step into the light
wearesavedbygodsgrac 7 months ago
@maverik713 and one more thing, you like to call people out and talk about if you want to be taken seriously people shouldnt say things that dont make sense. i challenge you to listen to yourself. especially listen at around 8 mins and 45 sec. you said you would continue to point out the consistencies, inaccuracies and flat out lies. wait what sense does that make? consistencies??? do you mean inconsistencies??? or am i being too picky???
wearesavedbygodsgrac 7 months ago
@wearesavedbygodsgrac I listened, and I said inconsistencies. You should listen again. Even if I had said consistencies, that would have just been me misspeaking, whereas saying "a ape" instead of "an ape" is grammatical assault.
maverik713 7 months ago
@maverik713 no sir i listened again. you said consistencies. i listened several times. sounds like you wanted to say it but didnt. and as far as you trying to disprove them and sound sophisticated, try to use actual proof instead of others words. and a grammatical assault? that just sound like someone is trying to hide a sense of a personal lack of healthy confidence and hides it w a great sense of pride. you once had questions about GOD but quit because you became prideful and blinded
wearesavedbygodsgrac 7 months ago
@wearesavedbygodsgrac I can understand why you might think I said it incorrectly, because it's more on the end of the word "the" that comes right before it. I always laugh when I get told that I want to sound sophisticated. Have you ever thought that maybe some people just talk like this? Funny that you say I should use actual proof. You do realize that Christianity has no actual proof right?
maverik713 7 months ago
@maverik713 when you die you will see what's true. the only way you can get to god is through jesus right? okay so. to believe in god and die you gain his promises. to deny him and die you have hell to pay. so quit with the "there's no proof" hellooooo it's called faith! to have faith his real by living accordingly to his word. The option is yours. you screaming you don't believe n god is only securing your spot n hell. think about it! you die today? and god appears, what will you say then?
itsdaddii 7 months ago
@itsdaddii Threats of hell don't do anything to me because there is no evidence that hell exists. And if I died and found out god was real, I would ask why he didn't do a better job of making his presence known. Then I would ask why he ordered such horrible things. And why he never explicitly condemned rape. And why he explicitly allowed slavery. And why he made a bet with satan. Or why he never just destroyed satan. I'd have a ton of questions.
maverik713 7 months ago 2
@wearesavedbygodsgrac Also, please don't tell me why I do what I do. I don't believe in a god because there is no evidence that one exists. Not because I'm mad at god, scared of something, or any other reason you might come up with. I don't know why you believe and even if you told me, I'd only be able to take your word on it. I wouldn't know for sure.
maverik713 7 months ago
@wearesavedbygodsgrac
wearesavedbygodsgrac 7 months ago
@maverik713 theres plenty of proof of events and artifacts mentioned in the bible. and for your very own life and how it came about can not truly be proved. so i your life real? that cant explain how the earth and universe came about, they have theories but no proof. you being here able to message and live everyday can not be explained by scientists. therefore you must be just an imaginary image. did you research laminin and colossians 1:17??????? explain that to me please...
wearesavedbygodsgrac 7 months ago
@maverik713 and you cant disprove it either. you cant explain life, the earth, the universe anything in this world. so how can any of it be real??? is this world and life we live just a figment of our imagination. you see im not afraid to stand up for CHRIST JESUS. one day you will bow before HIM and confess HIM as LORD AND SAVIOR. but hopefully before then you stop working for the enemy and join the army of life
wearesavedbygodsgrac 7 months ago
Yes, it has to be observed. THe observation is life, evolution is the explanation of after life starts, and A-biogenesis before. Creationist can spute out all the crap they want, that doesnt change the fact that evolution is demonstrably true. Also, We have never SEEN pluto orbit the sun. Not even once. Yet we say that it orbits the sun based on math and physics. Science doesnt require that you see it with your own eyes.
gulbirk 9 months ago
Perfectly said/done maverik713...★★★★★
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Katalyzt 11 months ago
@maverick look it appears to me you always just try to get people so confused on the subject that they have absolutely no counter claim because they have no idea what you are talking about. I have pit this following statement in another post but; if the big bang theory happen to be real (which it is not god created everything ex. Mountains trees flowers sky ect.) where did the things come from that created the big bang there has to be a higher power (which is god) because things had to come fro
avery9997 1 year ago
@avery9997 Thats an argument from ignorance. I could put anything there. I could say """And that is where my pokemon god comes in and start out""". THe counter argument will always be """How do you know""". Because you are using the argument that ""If they dont have the answer to everything, and the explanation for everything, then my God exist""". Ludacris, you still have to prove that your God exists.
gulbirk 9 months ago
i just wanted to throw in that evolution has been observed to take place... look up john endler's guppy experiment... the experiment has been done both in a lab and in the field in the amazon : )
pipobun 1 year ago
That chick was like a shotgun of logical fallacies !!!
MaitreyaRocket 1 year ago
The scientific method does no require theories to be "observable" in order to be conclusive. It requires them to be demonstrated, testable, repeatable and mathematically indicated. This is the exact opposite of faith since a great deal data is collected, scrutinized and mathematically evaluated to indicate the big bang is at least plausible.
Even then, should new data come along to indicate something else, science (unlike religion) will correct itself.
socksumi 1 year ago
Respect...Also,side note...I would tap that chick...I would tap that chick so hard she would deny her god and convert to me.
yanniskusogaki 1 year ago
I am so glad you have done this video. I think more atheists need to speak out :)
sclovely1 1 year ago
Another human knows how to use his brain.
ngobinhnguyen24 1 year ago
@ngobinhnguyen24 another human submits to futile thinking from futile men who call themselves scientists.
HIGHLANDERxMCLAMBIE 1 year ago
@HIGHLANDERxMCLAMBIE Unless you live in a cave, drink water from river, and use leaves for clothing, you are using inventions and results of efforts of those futile men who call themselves scientists. Sorry, but the Pope didn't invent the Internet.
ngobinhnguyen24 1 year ago
dope shirt
jahova10 1 year ago
Just going from a comment i saw you make about how atheists are viewed in the black community, i think its weird that they ignore that god himself endorses slavery. Just a thought.
MrYouthinasia 1 year ago
False strawchotomy. I love it.
xoy71 1 year ago
Hi Maverik713. Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to have a personal vendetta against P4CM. I'm not sure whether you are a homosexual or an atheist, maybe both since you are so passionate about both topics. Correct me again if you will. I'm the kind of christian who believes that if you love your fellow human beings, you tell them about the love of Christ BUT one can't stop there, He is also holy and just and therefore one has to also make known that the wages of sin is death...
JESUSISMASTER 1 year ago
@JESUSISMASTER You are wrong.
maverik713 1 year ago 13
@JESUSISMASTER you are also the type of christian who cannot come up with any form of coherent argument, and therefore descends to using verbal abuse (not what I would regard as abuse - i prefer the term shitbags - because if someone called me an atheist or a homosexual, I really wouldnt give a shit, but for you these are the worst insults you can throw at someone - perfect example of christian love).
leorklier 1 year ago
@leorklier Something I come to realize is that a homosexual or an atheist doesn't find it to be a verbal abuse if someone recognize them or call/ask them who they are. I'll take it you don't have any of these persons for a friend, since you obviously think otherwise...or maybe you just didn't understand my simple comment...I would be cruel to hold it against you..blessed love always.
JESUSISMASTER 1 year ago
@leorklier really nicely put. jesusismaster is typical of many "good loving christians" who in reality actually hate not love. And they learned to justify this hate from the bible. Maverik713 has a brain and uses it well while jesusismaster is simply reduced to slinging "insults" like he was a 10 year old boy.
robertchflynn 1 year ago
@JESUSISMASTER hahahahahahaha, whats where you go, keep it up! hahahaha
MrSplashx 1 year ago
@JESUSISMASTER Are all christians homophobic, or just the shit-eating ones?
jib1000 1 year ago
@JESUSISMASTER That was a very christian like comment.
MrRealist27 10 months ago
@JESUSISMASTER I would not expect better from a god loving,love your brother christian. You are suppose to pray for this man! instead you suggest he may be homosexual or an atheist. This is loving your brother? It has to be obvious that he is an atheist, he does everything but say it a 100 times and even if he was homosexual, what business of yours is it? The true danger in religion is the people who believe in it and you make the statement true.
bigsubwayman1 9 months ago
@JESUSISMASTER How CAN you talk of love... And at the same time you speak of death? It's no longer about not sinning, it has become about following Jesus. Not following Jesus has been MADE into a sin. So its follow me or die. And we call it love. Sickening Irony. The same kind of love you'll get from any kind of dictator.
Ranokian 8 months ago
Wait a second, a black Dude living in The United States of Jesus-land, and this Dude isn't on his knees praying to the Invisible Man, who lives in the sky? I think I must be asleep and dreaming. I'll wake up soon. :-)
One of my favorite scientists is Neil deGrasse Tyson. You and him must be the only two black Atheists living in the States. Good video Dude. Lordy Lordy Lordy, everyone else must be in church this Sunday. He he.
bigboy45454545 1 year ago 2
@bigboy45454545 Actually, there are many black atheists. They are here on YT, as well as out in the world. Only problem is, for many black atheists, admitting that is social suicide. Thanks, more vids coming (hopefully) soon.
maverik713 1 year ago 15
@maverik713........I know it. I'm just joking around. I think admitting that you're an Atheist in Jesus-land, is social suicide for anyone in your country. Let's change this, shall we.
bigboy45454545 1 year ago
@bigboy45454545 - Wow !!! Stereotype much !?!?!?!
MaitreyaRocket 1 year ago
Great video, I subscribed!
videohaure 1 year ago
Could you please post a 'serious' video such as this, in a better place other than a bathroom? lol
SweetnGorgeous1 1 year ago
Purushadasa doesn't allow any comments against her viewpoint. also, she doesn't know what a theory is. here's a quote: "It is an unproven idea with no evidence to back it up, it has always meant that, and it always will mean that." also, she says her channel is a bastion of free speech. god, what a dipshit
KotoRyu 1 year ago
The truth is....God exist... The proof is God exist...that's the bottom line. Every knee WILL bow in reverence and respect to the it's Creator...either now or later. I pray, for you all's sake, that you choose now. Repent now before it's too late. Be blessed
legendthrusong 1 year ago
Scientists can invent a machine that shows us life 3 times over through the eyes of 39999 people at once... But then what?... A human mind can't even relate or function once it reaches a certain point in exsistence... God Is God not because he wants to knock on your door and tell you the truth about something out of a childrens book.... But because He created all things and wants you to return to that place of peace and togetherness... The blood of Christ is the only way back.
tcelEElect 1 year ago
It's like.... People can see the physical and trace it as far back as they want. I'm almost 100% positive that the big bang occured... But I'm sure God has a completely different name for it.. Just like He probablly has a name for the million other bangs that happened before he created us.. Just because you're scratching on the surface of what God's doing doesn't mean that you've discovered life..
tcelEElect 1 year ago
lighter = just got finished with some mojo?
DRJUMP 1 year ago
@DRJUMP Yeah baby!
maverik713 1 year ago
you have a very good style of refuting theological arguments, its very articulate and methodical, you are probably the best person on youtube to address these arguments
gordonisnext 1 year ago
Nigga, give me that shirt too!
Blackardis 1 year ago
False strawchotomy...I love it. Would you please add your best definition in writing of this term in the description. I think it might catch on : )
trueleroix 1 year ago
False strawchotomy. This is brilliance.
monkeytube138 1 year ago
False Strawchotomy...Brilliant!
airplaneking 1 year ago
Maverik, you speak with great clarity. Great points, well stated.
Great point regarding the off camera audio. I noticed that as well.
That whole video is a great candidate for Let's Play Count the Fallacies!!
And dude, I fucking love that tshirt!
magx01 1 year ago
Pretty awesome video man, keep up the good work
Epic tee-shirt
davemcd85 2 years ago
i messaged her and asked her who is she debating 4 months ago, and why the comments are blocked... no response.
ohmc303 2 years ago
@ohmc303 You're an idiot. That video post represents the organization of the PC4M group. She was at a group speaking seminar of some kind or something else of that nature. Chances are like 90% that she didn't even post that video, it was someone else who posted it...
And the person who posted the video probably doesn't know the specifics of what you are asking.
You're a douche bag.
Flyboy711672005 2 years ago
also, it's P4CM Passion for Christ Movement. come correct.
ohmc303 2 years ago
oh, and also, who are you? why did YOU decide to leave me that comment when YOU don't know the specifics?
ohmc303 2 years ago
Actually Flyboy, that is the P4CM group's channel. They have several channels that all reference P4CM. Maybe you should go visit their pages before you start in on someone so harshly. You called ohmc303 an idiot and a douchebag when you are the one making incorrect assumptions about the issue.
I wonder where you figured that it was a 90% chance this wasn't from a P4CM person.
maverik713 1 year ago 4
Great video.
nikolka1992 2 years ago
nice job man. keep up the fight against the trolls!
setmedic 2 years ago
Scientific evidence has to be replicable and forensic science uses replicable scenarios. Atheism is a type of faith. I love the assumed intelligence that atheists believe they hold, when in truth they are ignorant to the miracles all around them. There is no chance that this universe and everything in it could ever be created without a designer. Blind guides and fools.
bhowarth 2 years ago
@bhowarth
That is an argument from incredulity. To say that something isn't true because you can't fathom it doesn't provide evidence for your belief, it just boldy asserts it.
And your statement about the universe is true. If the universe was created, then it would need a creator. But you have no way to show evidence that this creator exists. Even if you did, you would have to find out what made that being exist.
Blind guides...
maverik713 2 years ago 2
The argument is that if there is no way to physically prove the origin of creation, it is more likely that the origin lies outside of the physical realm. I'm not pointing toward one god or another, but it seems ignorant to stand by weak evidence such as evolutionary theories which leave massive amounts questions about the missing links. Using numbers in the trillions to estimate the time evolution took to occur is inconceivable and a good way to pad a theory to make anything seem possible.
bhowarth 2 years ago
Also there is no such thing as no faith. You put your faith in your self/lame unscientific guesses at origins/dawkins/darwin/textbooks written by subjective sources, rather than be thankful to the Creator who you were meant to be in relationship with. Wishful thinking and skepticism should help you see that if you want to hear it, it's probably not true. You are accountable for everything that you've ever done outside of the will of God if you haven't trusted Jesus for forgiveness of sins.
bhowarth 2 years ago
We all choose to believe certain sources as well, because nobody can do all of this research first hand. You believe scientists that have made best guesses at origins of life, but have never observed the occurrence nor have found any replicable situations proving it to be true. These men/women are also going on the basis that there could never be anything outside of what is seen to human eye. This assumption says that if a human can't measure it, then it must not be real.
bhowarth 2 years ago
The "scientific method" itself misses the possibility that God may not be measurable by human standards. I could create something called the "religious method" enter it into a bunch of texts and say that if something goes against my beliefs its wrong because of the religious method. The scientific method is a way for scientists to try to disprove religion in the physical realm. They claim triumph foolishly thinking that God can be tested like a lab rat.
bhowarth 2 years ago
@bhowarth
Who created god, and no atheism is not a faith. With your own logic you proved yourself wrong.
joshrocks11 1 year ago
impressive. subscribed.
crackintoes 2 years ago
That's a very cool t-shirt.
DrunkenPoetic 2 years ago
I enjoyed watching this rational take-down. Cheers m8!
yippikahyey 2 years ago
Brilliant, loved it. I found it funny that P4CM would post something full of triumphalist rhetoric about how they've dismantled atheism - but not have the humility or genuine intellectual curiosity to actually allow someone to debate, comment, rate, or otherwise disagree with them. Either way you put green bandana lady to shame. More intelligent, more erudite, more gracious and professional by far.
jadegecko 2 years ago
What I noticed first, and most interesting, is that P4cm disabled the responces on the video, as if they expressly DIDN'T wan to have people answer her points... Isn't that contradictory to the video being refered to as a "debate"?
shdwwolf7 2 years ago
well done mate, well done.
Cheers Christine
christinepeace 2 years ago
Thanks a lot! I have more vids coming soon. Hopefully, because I just started back to school this semester so ya know, studying and all.
maverik713 2 years ago
You have some really excellent videos! By the way, the "ad hominem" thing you mentioned near the end of this video, you weren't being picky at all. I agree, when people mispronounce words etc, it does sort of blow their credibility. When they say things like "an ape mutating into a man" it shows that they shouldn't be debating on a subject that they seem to know nothing about.
CHamlin86 2 years ago
thank you!
Hectiquin2003 2 years ago
You want an argument against ID? ID is NOT a scientific theory because you cannot test it, reproduce it or even freakin observe it. ID is invisible, rooted in creation myth. It basically says "well this looks hard, God must have done it." Even IF for the sake of argument ID is true, wtf is the point of researching anything ever again. The answers for every scientific query could be reduced to "God did i.t" Sounds a bit boring if you as me..
streethockey47 2 years ago 3
true but, i dont understand how something came from nothing. somewhere down the line someone had to make something out of nothing, if you know what i mean..
just ask yourself how was the world created, and after every answer ask yourself, "and how did that happen".
Jeros0192 2 years ago
So there must be an origin point, and you say it is God.
If you're going to apply this rule to your God, you can apply it to anything down the line.
If God just IS, then the same could be said for the universe. The universe just IS.
Dr4snus 2 years ago
No... Wrong, the universe would be able to continue creating then and it would if it was a Creator.
The point is that we can't figure everything out using skepticism and lab testing when it comes to spirituality and philosophical questions. Science can't do it. It isn't good enough. Sorry to see that foolish people keep worshiping science as their savior, when all it does is confirm it's insufficiency to explain things outside the physical realm.
bhowarth 2 years ago
I'm not quite sure what you mean in relation to my statement.
Dr4snus 2 years ago
You are correct, since nothing paranormal nor spiritual has ever been proven to exist, science has nothing to do with it.
Science only deals with what actually exists but the problems come in when what actually exists and what is justifiably found to have happened are counter to non-scientific reliefs.
Once this happens the non-science folks claim that 'that can't possibly be justifiable because it isn't true to what we already believe'.
Can you explain to me how this isn't what is happening?
Harizl 2 years ago
Apparently you are unable to comprehend science's limitations. If science can not explain something such as the origin of life, then it is not good enough for such questions. Since science can't explain the origin of life, then the answer must be outside of the physical realm. Science only deals with what is physically measurable not what "actually exists." There are many, many questions that science can not and will not ever be able to answer such as why do we have a desire for purpose?
bhowarth 2 years ago
What utter arrogance to think that we should know everything instantly. Science does not *yet* know, that doesn't mean it will never know. 200 years ago science didn't know how the evolution evident by fossils etc happened, now it does.
Every year that passes builds on the knowledge of science, just wait.
I would actually be surprised if psychologists didnt have coherent theories why some people desire a purpose imposed upon them from the outside.
sanechipmunks 2 years ago
Btw, how does religion explain the building blocks of matter? We're all waiting for something useful to ever appear from the camp of wannabelievers.
sanechipmunks 2 years ago
"Since science can't explain the origin of life, then the answer must be outside of the physical realm. Science only deals with what is physically measurable not what "actually exists".
Science deals with that which manifests in our universe, if it doesn't manifest then it is not only unmeasurable but also ineffectual. You are claiming there is something outside of the physical realm and asserting it to be true as a false dichotomy against science.
You are the one quite unable to comprehend.
Harizl 2 years ago
From the foundation of the scientific method, biased scientists have set up methods to purposely discount anything except that which is replicable. The foolishness they believe to be intelligent, is the belief that the Creator is uncontainable by human methods. The Creator does not need a stamp of approval from creation. That would be ludicrous.
bhowarth 2 years ago
** rather that the Creator is containable, testable, provable, by human methods
bhowarth 2 years ago
Yes scientists are biased against that which is not real.
If this god of yours is real, and has any effect upon reality distinguishable from random chance - that effect is detectable with science.
sanechipmunks 2 years ago
He is glorified whether you give him glory or not. His creation itself, living, breathing, moving, glorifies him. He doesn't need us, rather he wants to be in relationship with us. Humanism makes gods out of individuals and tickles the ears of those who are arrogant to the reality of a Creator.
bhowarth 2 years ago
You went off on quite a tangent:
"Since science can't explain the origin of life, then the answer must be outside of the physical realm."
There is no reason for something we don't know of to be assumed to be supernatural, considering there has been nothing else proven to be caused by something supernatural. As I said, explain to me why you would make such an assumption?
Harizl 2 years ago
I'm not out to discuss a creator, i'm out to discuss the problem of religious people ignoring what has been proven to exist, (not only origins, but the timeline of the earth). It's not as if changes in church exceptance don't happen, it's just that I find it ludicrous to wait on the group word before accepting what has been proven true.
Example: 6000 years is just laughable false, unless thousands of factors have changed and it is rediculous to assume that. But people unthinkingly stick to it.
Harizl 2 years ago
I doubt there has even been slight indications, let alone proofs.
sanechipmunks 2 years ago
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"somewhere down the line someone had to make something out of nothing"
Why does it have to be someONE? I see this mentality a lot. Always asking WHO created the universe instead of WHAT. It could very well be a "what." Just some food for thought.
CHamlin86 2 years ago
actually... ID is falsifiable you moron
bhowarth 2 years ago
You have addressed her methods of debate... but what about the actual content? This video seems to be putting down the way she tells it instead of what she's saying. I'm going to check out the Nova thing to find out what it says about intelligent design though. I want to know the arguments against that. I believe in God and creation but I appreciate people sharing their thought out opinions and research. I like to know all sides and evidences of theories.
jeanmarie0902 2 years ago
@jeanmarie0902 By addressing her methods of debate, he shows why her arguments against atheism do not hold up. If an argument is not sound, it has no content worth mentioning.
imanselmo 2 years ago
Jeanmarie,
As iman stated, my video's purpose is to shed light on the type of dishonest tactics that some religious people engage in. While I could go into further detail as to why her arguments don't hold up, I feel that showing how she is a completely dishonest person is a better route.
I did that because it then casts doubt on anything she or the P4CM crew says, which they deserve until they change their dishonest ways.
maverik713 2 years ago
Also, she isn't debating. Debates happen with more than one person. I made it a debate by adding myself into the mix. And in almost six months, I haven't received one word from anyone in the P4CM group in response to the video responses or messages to any of their related accounts.
maverik713 2 years ago
oh shit, now people can commit whatever crime they want as long as nobody sees it. it's totaly fine because nobody was there too see it. DNA, fingerprints, a corpse, tools or indeed any evidence of any kind is WORTHLESS acording to that P4CM woman.
this is her logic.
also, nice t-shirt!
foxmcloud555 2 years ago 2
origin of life vs. committing a crime... not a great correlation there and there is NO evidence for the big bang theory either. All of these theories are just guesses at alternate theories to help people who want to believe no god exists sleep at night and not worry about suffering for eternity, because they knew they were created for a purpose but decided to live in sin instead.
bhowarth 2 years ago
how is it a bad"correlation"?
both are events. we wern't around to see them.
we try use scientific methods such as dna ascertain the exact process.
and unfortuantly for you, no matter how much you bitch and cry about it, the general concensus is that the big bang is the most likely origin of the universe because of evidence.
none of this disproves god in ANY way.
and if you only do good things because you believe you will suffer otherwise, you are a bad person in any religion.
foxmcloud555 2 years ago
"oh shit, now people can commit whatever crime they want as long as nobody sees it." ? There is no sound logic in that, which is why it's hard to see the correlation between the origin of life and a crime.
The big bang theory is a joke... Something has to be existent for it to occur no matter how small. Something can not come from nothing. It never has. Only a fool would say that a bunch of bricks sitting in a yard for long enough would eventually become a house.
bhowarth 2 years ago
"There is no sound logic in that"
my point exactly.
and you seem to be confused, that is not what the big bang theory is.
quite the oposite infact.
foxmcloud555 2 years ago
Why such resistance to the idea of a definite beginning of the universe? It goes right back to that first argument, the cosmological argument: (a) Everything that begins to exist must have a cause; (b) If the universe began to exist, then (c) the universe must have a cause.
You can see the direction in which this argument is flowing--a direction of discomfort to some physicists.
bhowarth 2 years ago
@bhowarth
there's no resitance.
i do beleive in a definate begining, and yes i believe god.
but i also believe that the big bang theory is the closest theory we have concerning the orrigins of the universe, as it provides answers to a lot of important questions.
big bang and god = not mutualy exclusive.
foxmcloud555 2 years ago
LOL!
CASEYELLOW007 2 years ago
Ya, that video was painful.
k87jury 2 years ago
good video man keep it up,
cheers
blehu 2 years ago
in response to the puppet stuff,which is usually one of the main points in "purpose".nobody wants to be controlled.Think about it like one of those books that asks you where you want turn to next pg.2 or pg.3 you decide.Same with your life it is all predetemined with infinite possibilites=destiny .And you choose=free will
leo8a12 2 years ago
Great response. It's good to see someone intelligent.
Your words are gibberish to her though. She's a drama queen who thrives on the attention her religion gives her. Even though her understanding of her words is less than rudimentary.
Oh well she's sick one day, or wants to make another video she'll come running back to science for help :)
MstrKey 2 years ago
you are so close to believe in God i can feel it, you are God's puppet he makes u think like that now, so u can witness to millions of people who believe just like you...........
chechouful 2 years ago
What a great response! 5 stars.
IamMrAwesome 2 years ago
Haha, it's always hilarious to watch less intelligent people jump from "today's scientific explanation for this specific question _may_ be wrong" to "an intelligent creator is a reasonable alternative and my belief in it is justified". It's the perfect way to explicitly state that "I'm really stupid and should really keep my mouth shut".
Meatrose 2 years ago 2
The girl simply shows her lack of an education in the sciences, which is her crutch to believe what she takes as the alternative... belief in a god.
It matters not if evolution and the big bang are not true, gods existing are not the alternative.
Lousy reasoning and lazy thinking.
messiahjonz 2 years ago
Your defense is wack personally!! God created you an I. And you soon will have to answer to God for your actions!! God have mercy on your soul!!
Misscasper1 2 years ago
your imaginary friend cant hurt anyone
LeeL29 2 years ago 3
Well, who can argue with that logic. I'm sold!
Afryte 2 years ago
God created you and ME not you and I. Learn grammar you ignorant god lover. You wouldnt say "god created I" would you? Then again you probably would. Maybe you've been watching that stoopid show 'the hills' where the ignorant skanks make this mistake all the time.
Here's the rule: If you take the "you and" or "(name) and" out of the sentence does it make sense?
God and me went to the park is wrong because if you take out the "God and" it makes no sense. God and I went to the park is fine.
2Jax 2 years ago
you know it doesn't really matter how the english comes off at this point im not trying to prove anything to you unbelievers but please believe that you will have to answer to God, so you could have saved a lot of your time and energy mr. Like i said before your defense is wack and we all will be judged shortly. God have mercy on us please!
Misscasper1 2 years ago
fuck you god... where ever you are
KiptaviusFuzz 2 years ago
Your truth is yours why do you feel the need to dictate it to me? What you think happens to you when you die is your own personal opinion so why think you know what happens to me? I'm honest enough to say I don't know. Why can't you be honest with yourself?
2Jax 2 years ago
@Misscasper1
Evolution is a fact. Get over it
JLuvs0fficial 2 years ago 9
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The enemy will blind you if you let him..I pray that God will have mercy on your soul.
Misscasper1 2 years ago
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If I am blinded, explain why God would "designed" archaeal parasite Nanoarchaeum equitans seperate 5' 3' halves tRNA combined through tRNAiMet, tRNAThr, tRNAIle (and others). If evolution is false, explain how the two halves correspond with amino acids in the codon table. Scientists even found the phylum type combinations. Why did God do this? That is VERY misleading, and doesn't God hate misleading and-or confusion?
JLuvs0fficial 2 years ago
@ElBurrotheDiablo666 I heard bullshit about they found the blood of jesus and they said it had only twenty one chromosomes and that proves jesus was a virgin birth.
SCRulerShinoda 2 years ago
it was doubtful at first, when i watched p4cm's video, but...there's hope for humanity yet.
thanks, mav, for bringing reason to the table.
HateIsObsolete 2 years ago
Damn Maverick !!! You picked up a weak opponent on this one hehe...So easy that you actually did it while taking a dump ? Anyways, congrats for using calm and reasonable arguments. Regards,
matus1810 2 years ago
I wish there were more black atheist :-)
kookoo78 2 years ago 3
You pretty much owned yourself with the statement Jesus has never existed. There is undeniable proof he once lived and it was actually observed by credible sources that he was crucified. Although there is no proof God exists, at least people claimed to have witnessed the works of Him. You can't say the same thing about the big bang theory. The existence of God is therefore more likely than some common atheist beliefs.
EAZYDUZIT95 2 years ago
@EAZYDUZIT95
Actually, no. We see evidence of the big bang. Cosmic background radiation, red shift, that kind of thing. To be completely honest, not everyone considers the sources for eye witness accounts of a jesus as credible. There were greeks who saw the heroes in their myths, saw the fantastic beasts and all other crazy things. When it comes to a god, how is it more believable exactly? How is an invisible being who created himself and everything more believable than modern science?
IAmTHEFreak1936 2 years ago
excellent response
maximum411 2 years ago
good job man
philjohnlennon 2 years ago
like the tshirt i got one of the 64 version:P
bertus198 2 years ago
thx for posting. P4CM is full of shit.
spideylover 2 years ago
I said nearly the same thing when I watched her video! The reason we talk about Darwin today is that he was so right in his hypotheses.
It pained Darwin that he didn't know about genetics and DNA...but he was pained by it because he knew something LIKE it had to exist.
The discovery of genetics and DNA has proven his genius, and foresight
SlickBlackCadillac 2 years ago
Brilliant execution! Clear, scholarly and to the point. The author of this video effectively dismantles the tired arguments of the supposed atheism "dismantler" argument for argument. This presentation effectively backs the opposed into a corner that, should she choose to stay there, will result in the acceptance of uncompromising contradictions. Highly recommend!
demandevidence 2 years ago
Excellent video Maverik
TheEarthFirst 2 years ago
finally, a sane person.
J3SSiCAiSD0PEF0SH0 2 years ago
I'm impressed. You are articulate and concise. Way to go. Obviously intelligent. A credit to the thinking community.
cymbeline8 2 years ago
I liked your final thought, did you write that?
theclewis 2 years ago
@theclewis
Thanks and yeah I did.
maverik713 2 years ago
I think that was stolen from the bible
Dave4020 2 years ago
I notice that P4cmDebateSeries has disabled ratings and comments on the original video - REAL brave, and shows how apposite her user name is ;)
Great vid dude :)
madaboutclaire 2 years ago
Why don't you go and have sex with monkeys and chimps and gorillas? After all they are your closest relatives. Go and make love with them.
Airlightf 2 years ago
Wow, the only thing your proof of is a 3rd grade education. Airlight, please read books outside of your religious beliefs so you can communicate with the outside world.
kharrod1 2 years ago
I've read many other books...I just started reading The God Delusion and another one...Is the world of evolution a perfect world? Or is their lenguage truth? Do athiest have a perfect speech?
Airlightf 2 years ago
@Airlightf
No one is perfect, the theory of evolution is being improved by scientists to fit the evidence. In other words, the evidence found has the potential to change evolution according to what it tells us. Do we have a perfect speech? Can't understand what that means so until you clarify, I will classify it as mindless gibberish.
IAmTHEFreak1936 2 years ago
serious question?
Subfightr 2 years ago
" "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth"
Airlightf 2 years ago
And multiplying through sexual reproduction is not evolution.
kharrod1 2 years ago
Can an orange tree bear apples, or a lemon tree bear apples? But you can increase them in size, right? The apple: small, big, colored etc is still an apple.
Airlightf 2 years ago
"Can you quotemine a textbook?"
Kent Hovind did it quite a lot when he was still able to do his seminars. There's a hilarious point where he goes into a quotemine, and tries to claim that a book is describing the formation of the universe when it was talking about the formation of our solar system.
That's a fairly big quotemine to me...
Cyrathil 2 years ago
i find it hilarious how he's giving her pointers on how to be taken seriously....this coming from the man filming himslf in a bathroom :P
florin3k3 2 years ago
@florin3k3
I find it sad that you think the location I film in has any bearing on how seriously I should be taken.
maverik713 2 years ago
@maverik713 :) i didn't say i don't take you seriously, quite the contrary.i'm on your side but u have to admit it's ironic/funny that u are saying this while in a bathroom, is it not?! keep up the good work;)
florin3k3 2 years ago