i always thought that species 8472 resembled somehow Ridley Scott´s Alien, they´re aggressive, adaptive & have a kind of instinct-based intelligence. maybe the most badass creatures in the Star Trek universe.
i´d like to see them fight some Aliens, that´d be interesting. but i think that´s never gonna happen, as they belong to different franchises.
@harpiyon Even Voyager could have defeated those Aliens from Ridley Scott's Alien. Just use the transporter and beam them all away and fire a phaser or two. simple
@slay444pt the weapons of species 8472 are super effective against the borg not everything else,anyway that shot wasn't a direct hit it slashed the nacelle,and clearly u can see what happened to voy she was damaged an spinning around. people love to criticize voy all the time and forget its science fiction.why not talk about how Enterprise D destroyed a borg cube alone...
@Archedgar oh really? lol they have been voted on trek dot com as the best alien race ever,the polls clearly worth more then ur opinion.with 1 minor hit voy lost most of it systems in part but i take it u never watched the show.
Remind me why the ship shakes when it gets hit by a lazer? Lazers are light, they contain no mass, and if they did, it would not affect the ship unless it hit the gravity generators.
@Spookssga ... come on we´re in the midle of an vast universe with million galaxies how likely is it that there´re NOT alien races besides us ... they´re either on other galaxies or on other starsystems ... not that we´ll see them so soon ... ... ... who knows ...
Hah, seatbelts? And miss the priceless hand throwing and falling to the floor? My favourite was always when some idiot would flip over his exploding console. Hehe, classic Star Trek. The Original series was the best since you can clearly see them running to one side then the other, still love it though!
Looking for the soundtrack of this episode for quite some time now. This music is only used specificly for this episode and I find it unbelievable you cant find any mention of it anywhere on the web nor the star trek core websites... The soundpart from 0:00 till 0:13 would be highly appreciated in a pure MP3-form.
The Borg need to change their tactics. The come across relatively weak humans and adapt themselves to their resistance and win, but they don't adapt to their tactics. Species 8472, meanwhile, is apparently immune to the assimilation process and yet the Borg STILL try to assimilate them. Anyone with a mind should know: Consistency is not always the option.
@Loke5788 In ST:O, these guys (also called the Undine because "species 8472" is really awkward to say) are one of the main antagonists along with the Borg, and the writers for the game do a good job of making them seem like a terrible threat to the entire galaxy. It's implied several times that the only reason the Borg haven't wiped out civilization in the Alpha Quadrant is because they are constantly at war with the Undine. The inverse is also true (w/o the Borg, the Undine would take over)
Love this episode, why? cos they(Species 8472) defeat the Borg!! the unstopable Borg! as unknown as species 8472 are, still they stop this enemy in their tracks!
@GERMANOPHILE Well until Star Trek online in which they are named the Undine. And the Borg do manage to assimilate one Undine. Until you bust in and kill everything.
If energy weapons don't work on Species 8472, then why don't people use solid shot kinetic weapons like a coilgun or similar. Tri-hecular DNA and their immune systems shouldn't stand a chance with a huge metal shell ripping through them.
@TheLegolasguy And DS9 had an ep where an assassin was killing people with a rifle that fired titanium bullets where the rifle could transport the bullet (velocity and all) to just in front of the target. The rifle also let the user see through walls :)
Man, this makes me wanna BE species 8472! Can you imagine being so powerful that all you have to do is jump out and give your enemy a couple of love taps to send them packing through space? SWEET!
@robblindsay I know totally Vorlon like even the whole Organic tech is a copy of Volrlons and the Shadows.... Star Trek needs a make over for real too bad Gene R. is dead most of his writing was very good... Earth's Final Conflict, Early Star Trek and so forth but these shows are so idk crappy but at least its better then most shows on TV lol Reality crap
@transdrole have you ever watched that episode? the borg are weak to the biological and chemical weapons that species 8472 use, that are from their own bodies. thats why they resist assimilation...
@miloootic understood. But while their ships may be organic, their energy weapon wouldn't be. And remember, the Borg have assimilated starfleet shielding and shield technology from hundreds of other races. It follows that Voyager would do far less well against the energy weapon than a cube, yet we see the weapon pass cube shields on the first hit. Voyager's shields were not passed on a hit. It's a plot device obviously.
@transdrole well what you say is verry logical but the thing is that borg vessels dont have shields they use their nanoprobes to repair any damage to their hull . but sp 8472 use bioweapons made from compounds of their own system>which we know is resistant to borg tech...so nanoprobes are easely destroyed ...but i still think they shouldve taken a big hull breach as well,but the directors did show us the ship flippin around lol
@miloootic That's incorrect, the Borg on a number of occasions have referred to shields as they're being used on their craft. I agree with transdrole, voyager would have been obliterated from a single shot (yet it took multiple throughout the double episode.) It would have put an abrupt end to the series though. I love the concept of these aliens however.
@supermonkey100 the concept of borg shields is verry diffrent of the one we know. they have inner shields and security grids to repel transports and intruders...notice when they fire phasers on a borg ship or a photon torpedo you dont see a buble or any kind of energy field protecting the vessel you just see the impact right to their hull.
@miloootic Doesn't really make much difference in my view whether it's an external bubble or otherwise; borg systems are vastly more sophisticated than starfleets. There could be variations in bioship firepower but single shots from those things rip apart huge borg cubes. Take a look at the size of the explosions on and in those two borg cubes at the double episodes opener. The explosions themselves are I'm estimating bigger then voyager itself.
@miloootic My point basically being that I doubt the capacity of an intrepid class shield grid (built 4 or so years earlier) would even come close to the energy represented by the damage that was seen inflicted on superior borg vessels.
@supermonkey100 Agreed, That beam that hit Voyager before she wen't to Warp should of destroyed her instantly if a single shot can destroy a 3000 Meter long Cube.
@NANOFORGE But was 8472's weapon fully charged in those few seconds, or did they 'shoot from the hip' to try and knock voyager around so they'd have time for a second more powerful shot?
@KaneinEncanto It was either a weaker shot or the writers went against their own physics yet again. That S8472 Particle beam can blow a Borg Cube up with little difficulty and a Cube is several thousand times most advanced and powerful than Voyager. If they can destroy one of those with ease, Voyager should of been vapourized.
@miloootic Well the Borg can only assmilate and adapt to frequenices and modulations but that cannot adapt to raw energy which S8472 proved with their particle weapons. Quantum torpedoes use raw zero-point energy which the Borg can't adapt to either. Quantums were designed to fight the Borg, A Quantum would be like a stronger yeild photon to any other ship.
In the episode where 8472 took human form and had a good dialog with Janeway, why, WHY did she not ask the NAME OF THEIR SPECIES??!?!?? How simple is that??!?!?
@mxrdvr They never formalized relations, that was only an agreed upon cease-fire.
The leader of 8472 even noted his superiors would be angry at this, but he felt he'd win a few over. Voyager left their com frequencies, but that was last they'd heard of Species 8472
Aye, they have Species 8472 in Star Trek Online. Unfortunately, Cryptic took it upon themselves to come up with a name for 8472. They're called the "Undine"
Paris and his flying is so kick ass lol that boy has skills lol.. but i dont understand why voyager was fighting 8472 if voyager would have just joined forces with them the borg would be history the borg were running for there lives lol haha i thought that shit was funny as hell We or the Borg well were 8472
@fajner1 I'm geek enough to have read many Star Trek Novels... From what I've read (and I don't think this makes much sense either), they don't have seat belts or restraints in order to transfer personnel from one com/status screen/station during emergency situations. Still, with the technological progress we are showing (in some fields) I predict holographic & bio-electric user interface modules for the future. Umm... Anyway, Go Star Trek!!
It is very likely that given their technology they have eradicated their enemies completely. And it is a bioship, maybe the weapon is just an immune response that is very powerful. Perhaps they did not design the "ship" maybe they have a symbiotic relationship with it. In that case, they never created the weapon at all.
I love 8472 but unfortunately my nature prevents me from expressing pity in the episode prey.Although 7 of 9 is hot she was a bitch to give 8472 over to the dogs of hirogen.I agree with onxy081 in saying star trek makes them humainoid a liitle two much.I love SPEICIES 8472.
I really like species 8472 because they are so unlike the other aliens in the ST universe. I like the fact that they actually look really alien. Star Trek unfortunately has gotten into this whole thing where they throw a few ridges on someone's forehead and voila, your an alien. I know the whole Star Trek next generation explanation about alien humanoids, I just think that's so boring.
8472 must be damn strong. Hell they're so mysterious they haven't even got a proper name, and Starfleet has to resort to using Borg Designations. And indicating where they come from, I would guess 8472 are only a fraction of the power other species in their area have. I mean, one blast from the Bioship and Voyager is sent twirling. Even the Borg are scared of these bad motherfuckers.
Definitely underused and a little bit under developed. I think Species 8472 are a great concept in terms of their physiology and technology, but the whole fluidic space concept is ridiculous. A universe with no stars, planets or any other alien species seems kind of lame. If they live in a realm by themselves where would they get the motivation to evolve into such an advanced species? If you live in a realm by yourself why would you even need ships capable of blowing up planets?
They may have lived alone, but once they realized they weren't, they evolved weapons... or they simply had civil wars... or they weren't ALWAYS alone, at some point. Life develops variations like that.
From what I understand, they never left their realm before the Borg invaded it. Also, If they're supposed to live in a liquid universe, how are they able to survive in ours? If they're the only lifeform there as I read from the Trek pages, why would they have developed such advanced bio-defenses? Ships that blow up planets when they have no planets? If they're the ONLY lifeforms there, they wouldn't need to hunt other lifeforms, they would never even have developed intelligence.
Who's to say they explored all of their fluidic space? Maybe they had "just-in-case" weaponry, or they used to be at war with each other in the distant past. Ya never know.
Was it not stated in the show that no other beings live there? Who develops just-in-case weapons when they're no other beings to threaten you? One of the most interesting things about evolution is that the pace of evolutionary change picks up in the face of adversity. The more hostile the environment, the faster the wheels of evolution roll and the quicker we adapt. What adversity has Species 8472 encountered to evolve to where they are now? None.
As I said, I kind of doubt they explored ALL of their space already - I mean, some people claim there's no other life aside that on Earth, yet we can't say so for certain.
And as also example-ified, there could have been a war between members of "Species 8472", after all...
Well it's stated that they are the only beings there. If there are other beings living there, one would think that with they're advance tech they would have encountered them at some point. As for a possible civil war between them, I'm basing my views purely on canon, not what ifs. BTW I actually like Species 8472. I just think they're some things that don't make sense about them that need to be explained.
Well, not per se, actually. They had been attacked by the Borg, or rather, invaded. Voyager helped developing a weapon against them for the Borg in exchange for safe passage through Borg space. Later on, the crew of Voyager and Species 8472 came to a sort of understanding, however, it seems...
Well kinda. I did say that in was a retaliation from the borg, species 8472 were attacked and thought the humans were allies with the borg.
You sorta right they kinda came to an understanding, however they could not promise anything and that the fued would most likely continue. As well as the fake federation that they created, also pretending to be humans, but your kinda right.
If the whole S8472 technology is based on living cells, why did the Borg never try to freeze a ship with liquid nitrogen, capturing some creatures long enough to find a way of assimilation?
They are one of the most intelligent beings in the Star trek universe....so they should have some freezing technology.
Liquid nitrogen would stop the metabolism, making the toxic dna harmless and all the biotechnology pretty useless. Then they could use a tractor beam to capture a ship and find the weak spot of S 8472.
This was the last episode before the unstoppable borg motif went south. It was cool because when they mentioned the borg in this episode (and the ones before it) you could see the fear in everyone's face. Now its just a half-assed "oh great, the borg are here" type of reaction. Nobody takes them seriously anymore (even in star trek: nemesis, Shinzon was just making light of the Borg like they were nothing: "What is it your borg friends say? "resistance is futile?")
i completely agree up to hear mention of the borg was like hell no where fucked they were seen as an all powerfull species facing the borg was almosat certain death and after it just became well we defeated the borg already more then once we can do it again o no borg ..
janway should have got chuck norris, wouldnt need nano weapons then
NemesisMarine01 1 month ago
Poor, dumb Harry...XD
TheGreatRukh02 1 month ago
They should make a new Star Trek Voyager series focusing on the other timeline where Janeway didn't go back in time to bring Voyager home.
Hero87 2 months ago
@Hero87 so you want seven of nine to die?
TheStargatefan1000 1 month ago
@TheStargatefan1000 lol no i guess not
Hero87 1 month ago
@Hero87 hope so
TheStargatefan1000 1 month ago
i always thought that species 8472 resembled somehow Ridley Scott´s Alien, they´re aggressive, adaptive & have a kind of instinct-based intelligence. maybe the most badass creatures in the Star Trek universe.
i´d like to see them fight some Aliens, that´d be interesting. but i think that´s never gonna happen, as they belong to different franchises.
harpiyon 2 months ago
@harpiyon Even Voyager could have defeated those Aliens from Ridley Scott's Alien. Just use the transporter and beam them all away and fire a phaser or two. simple
Hero87 1 month ago
Remind me of the Hur'q and Kam'Jahtae
HelmutVillam 2 months ago
I love 8472
kamkazekid 3 months ago
I really hated Kes. I'm glad her character died.
squidman22 3 months ago
@squidman22 she didnt die????
jcr21iscool 3 months ago
Qapla!
whitelighter27club 3 months ago
Need the Shadows to show them who is boss ;-)
ulfhirtha 3 months ago
Need the Shadows to show them who is boss ;-)
ulfhirtha 3 months ago
do a barrle rolllll!!!!!! 0:52
borghome 4 months ago 4
@borghome No side seat flying Peppy! lol
kappapi560 3 months ago
The reason that they don't have seatbelts is that USUALLY the inertial dampeners take care of all that shaking stuff.
Too bad they're as reliable as the stability of the warp core.
BlueKewne 4 months ago
When my car is spinning on black ice - this is exactly the same way I gain control of it - accelerating away really really fast.
ShoulderAB07 5 months ago
4 shots blow up a whole Borg cube
9 focused shots blow up a whole planet.
And the little Voyager is able to deflect this shot with a primitive shield.
Made in Germany? o.O
slay444pt 5 months ago 2
@slay444pt the weapons of species 8472 are super effective against the borg not everything else,anyway that shot wasn't a direct hit it slashed the nacelle,and clearly u can see what happened to voy she was damaged an spinning around. people love to criticize voy all the time and forget its science fiction.why not talk about how Enterprise D destroyed a borg cube alone...
miloootic 1 month ago
These aliens suck, they're designed to make Voyager look cool and the Borg look bad.
The borg get toasted by single shots but Voyager is barely injured? yeah right...
Archedgar 5 months ago
@Archedgar The Borg got hit by a direct shot, VOY was more a grazing not meant for them.
Typical reaction, can't handle there being even ONE species out there that could fight the Borg.
I bet if this was a TNG episode and they invented the 8472, no one would complain.
ShadowSonic2 4 months ago
@Archedgar oh really? lol they have been voted on trek dot com as the best alien race ever,the polls clearly worth more then ur opinion.with 1 minor hit voy lost most of it systems in part but i take it u never watched the show.
miloootic 1 month ago
Scorpion 1 and 2 were definitely the best in Voyager series, well, apart from "Endgame"..
PapillionDAmour05 5 months ago
Remind me why the ship shakes when it gets hit by a lazer? Lazers are light, they contain no mass, and if they did, it would not affect the ship unless it hit the gravity generators.
u3190 5 months ago
@u3190 It's an energy blast in the Star Trek Universe lasers are very weak. Lighting has the ability to shake things.
specie8470 5 months ago
The reason (Starfleet) don't have seatbelt on there (starships) is for the same reason Navy ships don't lol
rod2point0 6 months ago
@fajner look at Star Trek Nemesis Deleted Scene: "Where noone has gone before" Starfleet took your advice!
specie8470 6 months ago
luv the music!
TaskForceElites 7 months ago
I wonder if there are any real alien out there, if yes, are there any like Species 8472 or the Borg.
Spookssga 7 months ago
@Spookssga ... come on we´re in the midle of an vast universe with million galaxies how likely is it that there´re NOT alien races besides us ... they´re either on other galaxies or on other starsystems ... not that we´ll see them so soon ... ... ... who knows ...
MrTBSC 5 months ago
@MrTBSC wait until april 4, 2063 then say "hello vulcans!"
MegaTitanicboy 4 months ago
@MegaTitanicboy how bout april 4, 206300 or later
and probably say " hallo quantum torpedo that probably rapes our planet in one shot"
MrTBSC 3 months ago
0:46
LOL, you can hear Janeway drop Kes on the floor!
crazyrabbits 8 months ago 3
Hah, seatbelts? And miss the priceless hand throwing and falling to the floor? My favourite was always when some idiot would flip over his exploding console. Hehe, classic Star Trek. The Original series was the best since you can clearly see them running to one side then the other, still love it though!
Shintsu2 8 months ago
The alien ship is not pursuing...
No it wouldn't, we've got a can of whoopass waiting in the Alpha Quadrant, his name is PICARD
SVWillmer 8 months ago 3
sviđa mi se :))
dolicapolica20 10 months ago
Outstanding, love when they get control of Voyager again and it shifts into warp.
stvoyager 10 months ago 2
Who is this lovely person at 0:40?
TimeGents 10 months ago
@TimeGents The actor's name is Jennifer Lien, the character name is Kes.
KangarusGyrfalcon 10 months ago
@KangarusGyrfalcon Thank you :) I did not recognize her with her different hairstyle :D
TimeGents 10 months ago
Looking for the soundtrack of this episode for quite some time now. This music is only used specificly for this episode and I find it unbelievable you cant find any mention of it anywhere on the web nor the star trek core websites... The soundpart from 0:00 till 0:13 would be highly appreciated in a pure MP3-form.
AnoraWutsy 11 months ago
not exactly a dream first contact
AlexOoiue 11 months ago
Species 8472: We can't be assimilated because we're made of fuck you.
MasterAdam100 1 year ago 43
@MasterAdam100 hehe
tikletik 3 months ago
where would u find the episode of Chakotays date, i.e. species 8472 second contact
spoiltbratt100 1 year ago
@spoiltbratt100 Season 5 Episode 4. Although personally it's not an episode I can stand. Prey was a much better follow of the 8472 story.
LostMercenary99 10 months ago
The Borg need to change their tactics. The come across relatively weak humans and adapt themselves to their resistance and win, but they don't adapt to their tactics. Species 8472, meanwhile, is apparently immune to the assimilation process and yet the Borg STILL try to assimilate them. Anyone with a mind should know: Consistency is not always the option.
TheLegolasguy 1 year ago
in star trek online these 8472 guys are alot stronger its a good game i recomend it
Loke5788 1 year ago
@Loke5788 In ST:O, these guys (also called the Undine because "species 8472" is really awkward to say) are one of the main antagonists along with the Borg, and the writers for the game do a good job of making them seem like a terrible threat to the entire galaxy. It's implied several times that the only reason the Borg haven't wiped out civilization in the Alpha Quadrant is because they are constantly at war with the Undine. The inverse is also true (w/o the Borg, the Undine would take over)
dark7element 1 year ago
Love this episode, why? cos they(Species 8472) defeat the Borg!! the unstopable Borg! as unknown as species 8472 are, still they stop this enemy in their tracks!
GERMANOPHILE 1 year ago 14
@GERMANOPHILE Well until Star Trek online in which they are named the Undine. And the Borg do manage to assimilate one Undine. Until you bust in and kill everything.
Saiko47 1 month ago
@Saiko47 fuck Star Trek Online. just one more thing that's wrong with it. refer to MasterAdam100's comment at the top as to why.
Tubyubber 1 month ago
Is it just me, or are 8472 ships a cheap copy of Vorlon ships, both in look and in organic design.
flyabusa 1 year ago
"The Weak Shall Perish."
TheSecondEvolution 1 year ago
If energy weapons don't work on Species 8472, then why don't people use solid shot kinetic weapons like a coilgun or similar. Tri-hecular DNA and their immune systems shouldn't stand a chance with a huge metal shell ripping through them.
TheLegolasguy 1 year ago 2
@TheLegolasguy And DS9 had an ep where an assassin was killing people with a rifle that fired titanium bullets where the rifle could transport the bullet (velocity and all) to just in front of the target. The rifle also let the user see through walls :)
newguy33X 9 months ago
@aprillo: they tried, but 8472s immune system just says "errr no" and kills them
vengefulnoob 1 year ago
Man, this makes me wanna BE species 8472! Can you imagine being so powerful that all you have to do is jump out and give your enemy a couple of love taps to send them packing through space? SWEET!
Fuleadeare 1 year ago
whats the ! next to the speech bubble mean?
daf867 1 year ago
Does somebody know the soundtrack from the beginning ?
CloneWarrior001 1 year ago
The Borg? Pussies had their ass kicked big time.Wankers.
maxwall7755 1 year ago
Something tells me the borg are going to have a hard time assimilating them.
aprillo 1 year ago 2
KESS IS SUCH A DRAMA QUEAN
jackass3000100 1 year ago
Once again::::::::::: NOVABOMB! Have not seen anything more powerful! EVER ! The COMMONWEALTH rules ! ;)
Kebbstar 1 year ago
Tom Paris...greatest ship controller ever!!!
RichNice30 1 year ago
@RichNice30
"They bravely ran away."
Sage2000 1 year ago
The quality is unbelievable.
bigevil1001 1 year ago 3
and people wonder why geeks cant get girlfriends
jopeon 1 year ago
Undine...
RepublicSoverighty 1 year ago
well the bioship was damaged so the beam attack must be weaker than at full strength
thehantavirus 1 year ago
Oh look, it's a naked Lt. Ariks from the Star Trek animated series.
eshaw2115 1 year ago
WOW B5 COPY CATS
vigorosoPIMPJr 1 year ago
@vigorosoPIMPJr
I thought that, the bioship looks a little bit too much like a Vorlon cruiser to be a coincidence
robblindsay 1 year ago
@robblindsay I know totally Vorlon like even the whole Organic tech is a copy of Volrlons and the Shadows.... Star Trek needs a make over for real too bad Gene R. is dead most of his writing was very good... Earth's Final Conflict, Early Star Trek and so forth but these shows are so idk crappy but at least its better then most shows on TV lol Reality crap
vigorosoPIMPJr 1 year ago
Voyager's lame shields hold up against the bioship when the borg's cannot?
transdrole 1 year ago
@transdrole have you ever watched that episode? the borg are weak to the biological and chemical weapons that species 8472 use, that are from their own bodies. thats why they resist assimilation...
miloootic 1 year ago
@miloootic understood. But while their ships may be organic, their energy weapon wouldn't be. And remember, the Borg have assimilated starfleet shielding and shield technology from hundreds of other races. It follows that Voyager would do far less well against the energy weapon than a cube, yet we see the weapon pass cube shields on the first hit. Voyager's shields were not passed on a hit. It's a plot device obviously.
transdrole 1 year ago
@transdrole well what you say is verry logical but the thing is that borg vessels dont have shields they use their nanoprobes to repair any damage to their hull . but sp 8472 use bioweapons made from compounds of their own system>which we know is resistant to borg tech...so nanoprobes are easely destroyed ...but i still think they shouldve taken a big hull breach as well,but the directors did show us the ship flippin around lol
miloootic 1 year ago
@miloootic That's incorrect, the Borg on a number of occasions have referred to shields as they're being used on their craft. I agree with transdrole, voyager would have been obliterated from a single shot (yet it took multiple throughout the double episode.) It would have put an abrupt end to the series though. I love the concept of these aliens however.
supermonkey100 1 year ago
@supermonkey100 the concept of borg shields is verry diffrent of the one we know. they have inner shields and security grids to repel transports and intruders...notice when they fire phasers on a borg ship or a photon torpedo you dont see a buble or any kind of energy field protecting the vessel you just see the impact right to their hull.
miloootic 1 year ago
@miloootic Doesn't really make much difference in my view whether it's an external bubble or otherwise; borg systems are vastly more sophisticated than starfleets. There could be variations in bioship firepower but single shots from those things rip apart huge borg cubes. Take a look at the size of the explosions on and in those two borg cubes at the double episodes opener. The explosions themselves are I'm estimating bigger then voyager itself.
supermonkey100 1 year ago
@miloootic My point basically being that I doubt the capacity of an intrepid class shield grid (built 4 or so years earlier) would even come close to the energy represented by the damage that was seen inflicted on superior borg vessels.
supermonkey100 1 year ago
@supermonkey100 Agreed, That beam that hit Voyager before she wen't to Warp should of destroyed her instantly if a single shot can destroy a 3000 Meter long Cube.
NANOFORGE 1 year ago
@NANOFORGE But was 8472's weapon fully charged in those few seconds, or did they 'shoot from the hip' to try and knock voyager around so they'd have time for a second more powerful shot?
KaneinEncanto 1 year ago
@KaneinEncanto It was either a weaker shot or the writers went against their own physics yet again. That S8472 Particle beam can blow a Borg Cube up with little difficulty and a Cube is several thousand times most advanced and powerful than Voyager. If they can destroy one of those with ease, Voyager should of been vapourized.
NANOFORGE 1 year ago
@KaneinEncanto Yeah, I agree. It was just a quick, unaimed shot.
TheJamesrocket 1 year ago
@miloootic Well the Borg can only assmilate and adapt to frequenices and modulations but that cannot adapt to raw energy which S8472 proved with their particle weapons. Quantum torpedoes use raw zero-point energy which the Borg can't adapt to either. Quantums were designed to fight the Borg, A Quantum would be like a stronger yeild photon to any other ship.
NANOFORGE 1 year ago
In the episode where 8472 took human form and had a good dialog with Janeway, why, WHY did she not ask the NAME OF THEIR SPECIES??!?!?? How simple is that??!?!?
mxrdvr 1 year ago
@mxrdvr They never formalized relations, that was only an agreed upon cease-fire.
The leader of 8472 even noted his superiors would be angry at this, but he felt he'd win a few over. Voyager left their com frequencies, but that was last they'd heard of Species 8472
Tigerman1138 1 year ago
Species 8472's theme kicks complete ass. Even when you haven't seen them yet, you just hear it and know you're screwed.
RettMikhal 1 year ago
i was told that they are called the sra'xa'diin
sumofluffy 1 year ago
I want to see 8472 vs james camerons aliens lol or the predator that would be badass but they would just fuck it up look at AVP
chrisredfield3636 1 year ago
now thats how you drift a starship!
vertigoalopolus 1 year ago
what happens when it meets species chuck norris
MeIsArtTickYouLet 1 year ago 2
@MeIsArtTickYouLet
Or if Yuzahn Vong meets Chuck Norris
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 year ago
My favorite episode of Voyager.
LUGIASAN 1 year ago
Not the kind of contact you would want in Star Trek online...........if they have a species 8472
RCflyergreg1 1 year ago
Aye, they have Species 8472 in Star Trek Online. Unfortunately, Cryptic took it upon themselves to come up with a name for 8472. They're called the "Undine"
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mastermanio2 1 year ago
wow voyager flipping
miloootic 1 year ago
they are called the undine.
thewewguy8t88 2 years ago 2
Harry Kim: AAARRRGGGGHHHH!!!1!!
Anthaon 2 years ago
remind me why they don't have seatbelts on the ship.
mager56723 2 years ago 48
@mager56723: They don't have that kind of technology! They're scientists from the future, not magicians!
existenceisrelative 1 year ago 2
Hahaha yes, I am always asking myself the same question! :D
BorisJankovic 1 year ago
@mager56723 Because IRL, if your ship gets jostled at the velocities they're traveling, everyone on board would be paste anyways.
Saibrock 1 year ago
@mager56723 Do you wear seatbelts if you use a train?
argai1978 1 year ago
@argai1978 The trains I take don't go into combat or mount weapons
mager56723 1 year ago
@mager56723 Seatbelts are the wrong solution. They need trapezes to stay off the floor when it shakes.
Brackynews 4 months ago
one of the coolest scenes fom 'Scorpion'!
THX!
retro38 2 years ago
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Personally I think the way they keep adding new threatening species is kind of weak.
All I know is SSJ3 Goku could totally take on all the borg, Federation, and species 8472 at the same time.
JigenD 2 years ago
That Thing still scares me after 7-8 years
Neverlast0 2 years ago 2
@Neverlast0
Watch out, dude, it's coming to get you!
ImperatorDerGalaxis 2 years ago
@ImperatorDerGalaxis Maybe LOL
Neverlast0 2 years ago
I know they are well creepy but yet cool
Machthall 2 years ago 2
Yeah
Neverlast0 2 years ago
Then come play the new Star Trek Online, there in it and the main threat, they even started the war between the federation and klingon empire :)
KeromorV2 2 years ago
Paris and his flying is so kick ass lol that boy has skills lol.. but i dont understand why voyager was fighting 8472 if voyager would have just joined forces with them the borg would be history the borg were running for there lives lol haha i thought that shit was funny as hell We or the Borg well were 8472
KamidakeRed 2 years ago
0:55 starfleet HAS to install seatbelts
fajner1 2 years ago 73
@fajner1 I'm geek enough to have read many Star Trek Novels... From what I've read (and I don't think this makes much sense either), they don't have seat belts or restraints in order to transfer personnel from one com/status screen/station during emergency situations. Still, with the technological progress we are showing (in some fields) I predict holographic & bio-electric user interface modules for the future. Umm... Anyway, Go Star Trek!!
Blade92776 8 months ago
@fajner1 I hear "can't hit me!" wtf?
MrRougeace 7 months ago
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Shitty CGI.
kjb86 2 years ago
Why don't you look at the air date of this episode before running your mouth about the CGI.
KaishiReed 2 years ago
thats one hel of a first contact
Purpletwilightgirl 2 years ago
The only canon in Star Trek is what is seen in the TV series and movies. Novels and other stories, although interesting, are not Star Trek canon.
Uejji 2 years ago
It is very likely that given their technology they have eradicated their enemies completely. And it is a bioship, maybe the weapon is just an immune response that is very powerful. Perhaps they did not design the "ship" maybe they have a symbiotic relationship with it. In that case, they never created the weapon at all.
trekgeek1 2 years ago
The only Trek alien race that looked even remotely how an alien should, instead of just a bumpy headed human. I always loved these guys. :)
draconis42 2 years ago 5
What about Gorn? 8D
GeraldRobotnik 2 years ago
well from what i understand its just a tv show, so stop over thinking it and get laid.
floydrose87 2 years ago
YOUR MUM!
Jammsbro1 2 years ago
"The weak shall parish."
Species 8472
smcneal057 2 years ago
the soundtrack for this arc was epic.
lendial 2 years ago
Just to show that there is always a bigger fish in the pond.
Strome88 2 years ago
This is the most deadliest Trek villain of all.
gamecock86 2 years ago
Why did it never occur to the Starfleet guys to fire phasers before the beastie attacked?
JedimasterOPS 2 years ago
I used to love the borg before something better caught my eye...SPECIES 8472!!!
333verdugo333 2 years ago 2
I got the whole series boxset(im on season 4)so from where I am now one on voyager likes janeway.
333verdugo333 2 years ago
I love 8472 but unfortunately my nature prevents me from expressing pity in the episode prey.Although 7 of 9 is hot she was a bitch to give 8472 over to the dogs of hirogen.I agree with onxy081 in saying star trek makes them humainoid a liitle two much.I love SPEICIES 8472.
333verdugo333 2 years ago
I really like species 8472 because they are so unlike the other aliens in the ST universe. I like the fact that they actually look really alien. Star Trek unfortunately has gotten into this whole thing where they throw a few ridges on someone's forehead and voila, your an alien. I know the whole Star Trek next generation explanation about alien humanoids, I just think that's so boring.
onyx081 2 years ago 2
8472 must be damn strong. Hell they're so mysterious they haven't even got a proper name, and Starfleet has to resort to using Borg Designations. And indicating where they come from, I would guess 8472 are only a fraction of the power other species in their area have. I mean, one blast from the Bioship and Voyager is sent twirling. Even the Borg are scared of these bad motherfuckers.
Carnage1235 2 years ago
how sadly underused this race was
ancalites 2 years ago 4
Definitely underused and a little bit under developed. I think Species 8472 are a great concept in terms of their physiology and technology, but the whole fluidic space concept is ridiculous. A universe with no stars, planets or any other alien species seems kind of lame. If they live in a realm by themselves where would they get the motivation to evolve into such an advanced species? If you live in a realm by yourself why would you even need ships capable of blowing up planets?
onyx081 2 years ago 6
They may have lived alone, but once they realized they weren't, they evolved weapons... or they simply had civil wars... or they weren't ALWAYS alone, at some point. Life develops variations like that.
MimeticLegacy 2 years ago 2
From what I understand, they never left their realm before the Borg invaded it. Also, If they're supposed to live in a liquid universe, how are they able to survive in ours? If they're the only lifeform there as I read from the Trek pages, why would they have developed such advanced bio-defenses? Ships that blow up planets when they have no planets? If they're the ONLY lifeforms there, they wouldn't need to hunt other lifeforms, they would never even have developed intelligence.
onyx081 2 years ago
Who's to say they explored all of their fluidic space? Maybe they had "just-in-case" weaponry, or they used to be at war with each other in the distant past. Ya never know.
GeraldRobotnik 2 years ago
Was it not stated in the show that no other beings live there? Who develops just-in-case weapons when they're no other beings to threaten you? One of the most interesting things about evolution is that the pace of evolutionary change picks up in the face of adversity. The more hostile the environment, the faster the wheels of evolution roll and the quicker we adapt. What adversity has Species 8472 encountered to evolve to where they are now? None.
onyx081 2 years ago
As I said, I kind of doubt they explored ALL of their space already - I mean, some people claim there's no other life aside that on Earth, yet we can't say so for certain.
And as also example-ified, there could have been a war between members of "Species 8472", after all...
GeraldRobotnik 2 years ago
Well it's stated that they are the only beings there. If there are other beings living there, one would think that with they're advance tech they would have encountered them at some point. As for a possible civil war between them, I'm basing my views purely on canon, not what ifs. BTW I actually like Species 8472. I just think they're some things that don't make sense about them that need to be explained.
onyx081 2 years ago
Gotta love Captain Janeway. ;)
Bateleur5 2 years ago
KILL EM ALL SHEEBA!
paulo9991 2 years ago
They are just trying to protect their own space, and when the borg opend a gate to their univerce they saw a resson to conquer our univerce
enkopingsbo 2 years ago
Well, not per se, actually. They had been attacked by the Borg, or rather, invaded. Voyager helped developing a weapon against them for the Borg in exchange for safe passage through Borg space. Later on, the crew of Voyager and Species 8472 came to a sort of understanding, however, it seems...
GeraldRobotnik 2 years ago
Well kinda. I did say that in was a retaliation from the borg, species 8472 were attacked and thought the humans were allies with the borg.
You sorta right they kinda came to an understanding, however they could not promise anything and that the fued would most likely continue. As well as the fake federation that they created, also pretending to be humans, but your kinda right.
BIGFELLA123 2 years ago
Pretty much. Bare in mind this attack was in retailiation to the borg, who thought they could assimilate them.
So much so the borg accept the help from janeway
BIGFELLA123 2 years ago
they are the biggest enemies of human and borg race
assholemasshole 2 years ago
that warp jump is soo cool
DarklyBishop 2 years ago
If the whole S8472 technology is based on living cells, why did the Borg never try to freeze a ship with liquid nitrogen, capturing some creatures long enough to find a way of assimilation?
Nilss7 2 years ago
they probably don't have freezing technology, they only want to assimilate.
Machthall 2 years ago
They are one of the most intelligent beings in the Star trek universe....so they should have some freezing technology.
Liquid nitrogen would stop the metabolism, making the toxic dna harmless and all the biotechnology pretty useless. Then they could use a tractor beam to capture a ship and find the weak spot of S 8472.
Nilss7 2 years ago
Well, then again... bio ships seem to be pretty capable of "surviving" in the coldness of space, which IS freezingly cold already.
GeraldRobotnik 2 years ago 3
what alien is it in 0:20 ?
helical 2 years ago
en wikipedia org/wiki/Species_8472
wtfbollos 2 years ago
AWESOME!
the best bits of voyager are these:
3-26, 4-1, 4-2 and 4-14, 4-15 and 4-16.
trust me, i watched the WHOLE 7 series a few years back..
wtfbollos 2 years ago
I love how they go to warp in this episode, its frikkin sweet.
80smusicfanNO1 2 years ago 4
man, harry kim is a pussy
BrettJRipley 2 years ago
A beautiful, smexy, sensitive pussy.
harlequin2262 2 years ago
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this show is a joke
upinrags 2 years ago
piss off
frostymoviesjp 2 years ago
This was the last episode before the unstoppable borg motif went south. It was cool because when they mentioned the borg in this episode (and the ones before it) you could see the fear in everyone's face. Now its just a half-assed "oh great, the borg are here" type of reaction. Nobody takes them seriously anymore (even in star trek: nemesis, Shinzon was just making light of the Borg like they were nothing: "What is it your borg friends say? "resistance is futile?")
misterwilderness 3 years ago 3
Maybe they should have assimilated ONE with his 29th century technology. Voyager would've ended a few seasons early, but eh...
adagiominore 2 years ago
i completely agree up to hear mention of the borg was like hell no where fucked they were seen as an all powerfull species facing the borg was almosat certain death and after it just became well we defeated the borg already more then once we can do it again o no borg ..
aviles1323 2 years ago
oh he got beamed it looks like he got poofeed
StaminaAQW 3 years ago
that poor yellowjacket that got neutralized
StaminaAQW 3 years ago
his name is harry kim ;)
Darkjunior224 3 years ago
1:06 Best warp jump ever!
animeownage86 3 years ago
lol they stole those organic ship from the shadows in babylon 5
theshadowbehindme 3 years ago
can you show me with some images?
loveryoda 3 years ago