Forget all the arguements, I enjoy both versions very much so. I love Andrews but I saw this version first and love this rendition... this actress, though I don't know her, seemed fit for the role.
Besides, comparing someone to Julie Andrews? There's no competition, why do you even bother? It's unfair to someone else.... I think, anyway.
i agree that julie andrews isn't believable as an adulteress. she's like a cream puff: light, fluffy, and feminine. i like thie guinevere-- she's mischievous . . . with a bloodthirst, it seems.
The italian version sung by the great Tina Centi is absolutely better.
Vanessa Redgrave is not singing. She's desperately trying to do it. :-)))
Tina Centi did it amazingly. Well, she dubbed Julie Andrews, Marni Nixon in "My Fair Lady", Debbie Reynolds, Princess Aurora in "Sleeping Beauty" etc. etc.
This film was a MAJOR flop..and for good reason. The singing was so mediorcre for a musical whose only asset was the songs. Critics HATED the original show and it only ran because of the stars, pagentry and music. If you have ever seen it on stage, it is long, dreadfully dull, humorless.
this is terrible, ok Julie Andrews is not in it but they could have at least put someone could sing and could Vanessa at least pretend to be interested in singing the song.
Garry Marshal who plays Sir Lionel, is a very talented performer. In the 70s I saw him in musical theater on the west coast and he was quite good. He also released at least one LP album during that era. I wonder what became of him.
She may not have the best voice, but no one can deny that she CAN sing-credibly and competently. And without a doubt, her acting more than makes up for her limited musicality.
not often ya get musicals with strong women, she played the lot of em, from king to kinghts, of course she paid the price at the end, a nun erry lol, wonders what has changed lol
No offense to Vanessa Redgrave or any of the actors but I really can't stand Camelot as a film...it does no justice at all to the Broadway show. I wish Julie had taken this role when she got offered it. This is probably my favourite song from Camelot though! Thanks for posting!!
@waliice Wow! It probably conflicted with one of movies. And--frankly--after being rejected for My Fair Lady, she probably didn't want anymore to do with a lesser Lerner and Lowe musical. Still though, if she did Camelot, and slutted it up as Gueinvere on the big screen, she might have been able to escape the virginal type casting after Mary Poppins and The Sound of Music. I do like Vanessa Redgrave, but Julie would've been delicious
It didn't conflict, she turned it down because she wanted more money for the role...which sounds selfish, but I don't think her motives were selfish. he may have, although I think some of her other films (e.g. Victor/Victoria) successfully shed that role, for those that have seen them...but I agree, wth you!
The argument seems to be ACTING versus SINGING (and in the talented Broadway style too). The same applies to various musical movies even as recent as Phantom of the Opera (Gerard Butler and Emmy Rossum). Actors are NOT singers but this is a MOVIE version of the musical and still a MOVIE. I happen to like Vanessa's Queen Guenevere only because it's too hard for me to see Andrews as an adulterous wife/Queen. Andrews ? She'd never cheat on her husband in real life! She's too ...perfect
I totally agree! this has long been one of my favorite musical movies for that reason. Vanessa's Guenevere is multi- dimensional. The perfect mix of naughty and nice!
@MastersoftheOpera I like Vanessa as well, but you're wrong here. This is Hollywood doing it's typical style over substance mash up job bringing musicals to the screen. Both Redgrave and Richard Harris are okay, but they pale to Julie Andrews and Richard Burton.
@AKB7128 . I have seen Broadway versions of Camelot but being born in 1980, I never saw Julie Andrews perform Guenevere on stage. I've heard the original cast album from the early 1960's. She has a beautiful voice but her sweet, lyric voice is too sugary and Mary Poppins/Maria Von Trapp like. I think the character of Guenevere was written to be earthy, seductive and ultimately tragic. I just can't see Julie as an adultress.
@MastersoftheOpera. I agree. In scenes/songs such as The Lusty Month Of May and the Farewell Duet "I Loved You Once In Silence" - Julie Andrews does not convince me as Guenevere. She's far too proper to be Guenevere. Guenevere was a seductive Queen who committed adultery with her husband's best knight. She is a tragic Queen whose sexual passion was her downfall. Julie Andrews and sex don't go together!
@MastersoftheOpera I agree--i love Julie Andrews but I cannot see her as Guenevere--I am sure she was phenomenal on Broadway, but the movie is not the show. I love Ms. Redgrave as Gwen!
@MastersoftheOpera I would give anything to see Andrews and Burton perform as well as hear them sing Camelot, but this version is great too. As was a version I saw a few years ago at a local theater.
Gosh, guys, I also love Vanessa Redgrave. She's a terrific actress and I have always admired her, but do you all really think that she does justice to the Lerner and Loewe score? Imagine My Fair Lady with Audrey Hepburn's original voice. Yes. What a waste! Redgrave is much better (the English diction and training had to count for something, after all), but as a singer she's far from impressive...
Thank you for posting this. I feel Vanessa Redgrave was the perfect choice for Guenevere. While Julie Andrews certainly has a majestic voice, I feel VR was able to emote more effectively in her singing; JA sings beautifully, but I don't hear the nuances of character on the OBC recording like I do in the film version. Also, could someone please post VR singing "I Loved You Once in Silence." Her interpretation of that song is brilliant and very touching.
Oh, yes, how could I forget to say that I think Vanessa's singing is well done?! I think she has a beautiful, light, refreshing voice, that reflects the mystery and magic that surrounds the legend of Camelot. And, in the course of the film she hits some very lovely high notes.
wow, shes looks absolutely GORGEOUS! we all know her as the ''oscar-winning- political-greatest of all time-one of the redgraves' actress, but i dont think i have seen this sexy/glamorous/fun side to her before. And her voice is very rockchick, and more than satisfactory - she isnt julie andrews no, but then again julie is not Vanessa Redgrave in terms of acting either. I know want to watch this brillaint musicial.
Redgrave sings this with cunning and seductiveness, and it fits well with the scene when she "talks" the men into going to the Fair, when Andrews sings it, she's wonderful of course but too playful, sing-song, sweet "Disney"ish and it doesnt work the way it should...I like Redgrave as Guenevere! And she can chang her voice for different scenes, "happy' in Month of May and sad in "Loved U In Silence"
She's not a game playing be-atch here; Lancelot was cocky and insufferable at the beginning (watch C'est Moi) and she just wanted to do a little 'reality check.'
Interesting casting for cast. director on this film, finding actors tall enough to appear on same plane with the beautiful and statuesque Vanessa Redgrave who stands over 5'11" in bare feet! Her sister Lynn is also statuesque at 5' 10".
Camelot was a GREAT music, if not the last great musical(it was Jack Warner's last film)..Vanessa is dead-on as Guenevere with scheming sexiness but also sad seduction...this song/scene is always fun
I think that the actor who played Sir Sagramore may have died in the early 90s.The other 2 gents seemed to have vanashed ,as I could find little on them after 1970,looking on IMDb.Its funny-this production has a true groovy 60s look.When the queen is in that hammock,one pillow under head looks as if it came from Pier One.
I've uploaded a different version of it... don't know if you were looking for this movie version or not... go peek at my channel and click on "playlists" to find the Camelot playlist. :)
I've never seen this movie version. It's nice, and much more mellow than the one I uploaded- I like it.
We were going this play in school. i played jennie. it kinda sucked because i like bobby and Skyler (Auther and Lance.) but it was also good because got to kiss both of them.
Random point of note: on the DVD version I have, when Sir Sagramore chucks the spear there is an almighty crash and the tinkling of broken glass... was just wondering why there's a limp "thump" in this version :P still love it though... this is by far my favorite musical, full of epic ballads and fantastic acting :)
Julie Andrews (Mary Poppins) was sweeter and sugar-coated...Vanessa Redgrave had a far more seductive, sensual and darker, sadder interpretation that is NOT like Mary Poppins...Vanessa made the role more human
Forget all the arguements, I enjoy both versions very much so. I love Andrews but I saw this version first and love this rendition... this actress, though I don't know her, seemed fit for the role.
Besides, comparing someone to Julie Andrews? There's no competition, why do you even bother? It's unfair to someone else.... I think, anyway.
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i agree that julie andrews isn't believable as an adulteress. she's like a cream puff: light, fluffy, and feminine. i like thie guinevere-- she's mischievous . . . with a bloodthirst, it seems.
13pangea 5 months ago
The italian version sung by the great Tina Centi is absolutely better.
Vanessa Redgrave is not singing. She's desperately trying to do it. :-)))
Tina Centi did it amazingly. Well, she dubbed Julie Andrews, Marni Nixon in "My Fair Lady", Debbie Reynolds, Princess Aurora in "Sleeping Beauty" etc. etc.
She knew how to handle a song... ;-))))))))))
MrLeino77 6 months ago
I suggest you to watch the italian version of the song, sung by the talented Italian dubber TINA CENTI... it's on my channel...!
PS: I'm Italian, so I apologize for my English!
93ninu93 9 months ago
agree andrews belongs romping around hills with nuns and kids :D
soulevolving 10 months ago
This film was a MAJOR flop..and for good reason. The singing was so mediorcre for a musical whose only asset was the songs. Critics HATED the original show and it only ran because of the stars, pagentry and music. If you have ever seen it on stage, it is long, dreadfully dull, humorless.
pudgeuncle 10 months ago
this is terrible, ok Julie Andrews is not in it but they could have at least put someone could sing and could Vanessa at least pretend to be interested in singing the song.
jspankin 11 months ago
they seem to be good singers to me
ryanartist88 11 months ago 3
Sorry, but you Andrews purists just plain bore me.
uKooKu 11 months ago 5
Such star struck gibber.... It's a movie. Plz don't ruin it by stabbing every aspect to death. Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheJoecd11 1 year ago
Love the bit with the queen and the lads having a drink,and then-he-walks in.
newrochellephoenix 1 year ago 2
Garry Marshal who plays Sir Lionel, is a very talented performer. In the 70s I saw him in musical theater on the west coast and he was quite good. He also released at least one LP album during that era. I wonder what became of him.
7624222 1 year ago
No one likes Lancelot, LOL.
Fujikorific 1 year ago
love the 60s inflected 'medieval' styles
BrianRIngram 1 year ago
@BrianRIngram Groovy indeed !
newrochellephoenix 1 year ago
@BrianRIngram
Yes, exactly. And the camera work thoughout also has a very '60s feel to it.
xemxi142 11 months ago
At least she sings the songs. No Marni Nixon dubbing her voice.
dahsuerk 1 year ago 2
@dahsuerk
YEs! you are so right.
She may not have the best voice, but no one can deny that she CAN sing-credibly and competently. And without a doubt, her acting more than makes up for her limited musicality.
NeoPalladio 1 year ago 2
I really like Vanessa's voice!
emmers57 1 year ago
Love lancelot's wtf face at the end. I lol every time.
procrastinator99 1 year ago
not often ya get musicals with strong women, she played the lot of em, from king to kinghts, of course she paid the price at the end, a nun erry lol, wonders what has changed lol
soulevolving 2 years ago
FAVORITE SONG IN THE ENTIRE FILM
oilspills4 2 years ago 5
No offense to Vanessa Redgrave or any of the actors but I really can't stand Camelot as a film...it does no justice at all to the Broadway show. I wish Julie had taken this role when she got offered it. This is probably my favourite song from Camelot though! Thanks for posting!!
waliice 2 years ago
@waliice I agree----Was Julie offered the role?
AKB7128 1 year ago
@AKB7128 Julie was offered the role, but turned it down...So I guess we can't complain!
waliice 1 year ago
@waliice Wow! It probably conflicted with one of movies. And--frankly--after being rejected for My Fair Lady, she probably didn't want anymore to do with a lesser Lerner and Lowe musical. Still though, if she did Camelot, and slutted it up as Gueinvere on the big screen, she might have been able to escape the virginal type casting after Mary Poppins and The Sound of Music. I do like Vanessa Redgrave, but Julie would've been delicious
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It didn't conflict, she turned it down because she wanted more money for the role...which sounds selfish, but I don't think her motives were selfish. he may have, although I think some of her other films (e.g. Victor/Victoria) successfully shed that role, for those that have seen them...but I agree, wth you!
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waliice 1 year ago
Well doesn't she think she's something =P hahaha
I would have laughed if one of the knight's had said, "Okay, sure, gives me some free time. Catch yeah later."
=)
Please, don't flame me, it's a joke. I adore this musical and the myths.
Goddessdaughter 2 years ago 3
Somehow, I can't imagine Knights of that era saying "vivisect" or "sub-divide!" I agree that It's still a very entertaining musical.
britcrit09 2 years ago
The argument seems to be ACTING versus SINGING (and in the talented Broadway style too). The same applies to various musical movies even as recent as Phantom of the Opera (Gerard Butler and Emmy Rossum). Actors are NOT singers but this is a MOVIE version of the musical and still a MOVIE. I happen to like Vanessa's Queen Guenevere only because it's too hard for me to see Andrews as an adulterous wife/Queen. Andrews ? She'd never cheat on her husband in real life! She's too ...perfect
MastersoftheOpera 2 years ago 22
I totally agree! this has long been one of my favorite musical movies for that reason. Vanessa's Guenevere is multi- dimensional. The perfect mix of naughty and nice!
yankeesmom1 2 years ago
@MastersoftheOpera I like Vanessa as well, but you're wrong here. This is Hollywood doing it's typical style over substance mash up job bringing musicals to the screen. Both Redgrave and Richard Harris are okay, but they pale to Julie Andrews and Richard Burton.
AKB7128 1 year ago 3
@AKB7128 . I have seen Broadway versions of Camelot but being born in 1980, I never saw Julie Andrews perform Guenevere on stage. I've heard the original cast album from the early 1960's. She has a beautiful voice but her sweet, lyric voice is too sugary and Mary Poppins/Maria Von Trapp like. I think the character of Guenevere was written to be earthy, seductive and ultimately tragic. I just can't see Julie as an adultress.
MastersoftheOpera 1 year ago
@MastersoftheOpera. I agree. In scenes/songs such as The Lusty Month Of May and the Farewell Duet "I Loved You Once In Silence" - Julie Andrews does not convince me as Guenevere. She's far too proper to be Guenevere. Guenevere was a seductive Queen who committed adultery with her husband's best knight. She is a tragic Queen whose sexual passion was her downfall. Julie Andrews and sex don't go together!
AmericanEvita 1 year ago
@MastersoftheOpera I agree--i love Julie Andrews but I cannot see her as Guenevere--I am sure she was phenomenal on Broadway, but the movie is not the show. I love Ms. Redgrave as Gwen!
delidude1999 1 year ago
@AKB7128 I totaly agree!!!!!!!
kimspins 1 year ago
@MastersoftheOpera I would give anything to see Andrews and Burton perform as well as hear them sing Camelot, but this version is great too. As was a version I saw a few years ago at a local theater.
alekshindin 6 months ago
@MastersoftheOpera
it was andrews before everyone knew her as Mary poppins
Lumotaku 5 months ago
Gosh, guys, I also love Vanessa Redgrave. She's a terrific actress and I have always admired her, but do you all really think that she does justice to the Lerner and Loewe score? Imagine My Fair Lady with Audrey Hepburn's original voice. Yes. What a waste! Redgrave is much better (the English diction and training had to count for something, after all), but as a singer she's far from impressive...
AlbyFC 2 years ago
I agree, Vanessa made my favourite Julie Andrews remake!
hugh0221 2 years ago
agree poor Audrey singing for real would have been bad alrite, Vanessa singing, for me, makes its more real, cos she did do it
soulevolving 2 years ago
The greatest part is Vanessa & Franco Nero fell in love during filming and remain a couple today!! Sir Richard would have been my choice!!
ArcCosine9 2 years ago
Thank you for posting this. I feel Vanessa Redgrave was the perfect choice for Guenevere. While Julie Andrews certainly has a majestic voice, I feel VR was able to emote more effectively in her singing; JA sings beautifully, but I don't hear the nuances of character on the OBC recording like I do in the film version. Also, could someone please post VR singing "I Loved You Once in Silence." Her interpretation of that song is brilliant and very touching.
mlec91283 2 years ago 4
Oh, yes, how could I forget to say that I think Vanessa's singing is well done?! I think she has a beautiful, light, refreshing voice, that reflects the mystery and magic that surrounds the legend of Camelot. And, in the course of the film she hits some very lovely high notes.
mlec91283 2 years ago 2
wow, shes looks absolutely GORGEOUS! we all know her as the ''oscar-winning- political-greatest of all time-one of the redgraves' actress, but i dont think i have seen this sexy/glamorous/fun side to her before. And her voice is very rockchick, and more than satisfactory - she isnt julie andrews no, but then again julie is not Vanessa Redgrave in terms of acting either. I know want to watch this brillaint musicial.
Teezer44 2 years ago 4
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Teezer44 2 years ago
vanessa redgrave exellent queen, nothing more
warrior430 2 years ago
Wonderful. So amusing.
MarieAntoinette2 2 years ago
Redgrave sings this with cunning and seductiveness, and it fits well with the scene when she "talks" the men into going to the Fair, when Andrews sings it, she's wonderful of course but too playful, sing-song, sweet "Disney"ish and it doesnt work the way it should...I like Redgrave as Guenevere! And she can chang her voice for different scenes, "happy' in Month of May and sad in "Loved U In Silence"
AmericanEvita 2 years ago 4
She's not a game playing be-atch here; Lancelot was cocky and insufferable at the beginning (watch C'est Moi) and she just wanted to do a little 'reality check.'
MissyHolland 2 years ago 31
@MissyHolland
yeah but she is a game playing biotch shes using the other knights using her sex. She has her own motives thats called playing games.
Lumotaku 5 months ago
Interesting casting for cast. director on this film, finding actors tall enough to appear on same plane with the beautiful and statuesque Vanessa Redgrave who stands over 5'11" in bare feet! Her sister Lynn is also statuesque at 5' 10".
tracer740 2 years ago
Great.... another be-atch that plays head games!
123JDB789 2 years ago
Did she do her own singing or was she dubbed?
exackerly 2 years ago
She did her own! I think the only actor dubbed was Franco Nero. But I know for sure that Vanessa and Richard Harris did their own singing.
blackpython 2 years ago 4
I was wondering, where can I get this movie?
JulietLenne 2 years ago
I got mine at Blockbuster, but then there is always Ebay.
iddgyiam 2 years ago
amazon sell it too!
tiredoldbag 2 years ago
I like Sir Dinaden (I'm probably wrong about the name, but the 3rd guy is my favorite) :)
AkiraChan24 2 years ago
meeee too!
ruffianoo 2 years ago
It's funny how she's so happy when they say they'll hurt Lancelot XD
RukiaKuchiki926 2 years ago
The last of the great movie musicals.
bmarvi76 3 years ago
"Gaul will be divided once more" - brilliant!
tiredoldbag 3 years ago
Camelot was a GREAT music, if not the last great musical(it was Jack Warner's last film)..Vanessa is dead-on as Guenevere with scheming sexiness but also sad seduction...this song/scene is always fun
AmericanEvita 3 years ago
She is so pretty. I like how she tricks the guys. What wouldn't they do????? :O
RLTCaptainLeader 3 years ago 3
I think that the actor who played Sir Sagramore may have died in the early 90s.The other 2 gents seemed to have vanashed ,as I could find little on them after 1970,looking on IMDb.Its funny-this production has a true groovy 60s look.When the queen is in that hammock,one pillow under head looks as if it came from Pier One.
newrochellephoenix 3 years ago 2
absolutely brilliant - please tell me somewhere you are hiding if ever i would leave you!!!!!!!!!!!
tiredoldbag 3 years ago
I've uploaded a different version of it... don't know if you were looking for this movie version or not... go peek at my channel and click on "playlists" to find the Camelot playlist. :)
I've never seen this movie version. It's nice, and much more mellow than the one I uploaded- I like it.
Luindriel 3 years ago
We were going this play in school. i played jennie. it kinda sucked because i like bobby and Skyler (Auther and Lance.) but it was also good because got to kiss both of them.
eava123 4 years ago
Random point of note: on the DVD version I have, when Sir Sagramore chucks the spear there is an almighty crash and the tinkling of broken glass... was just wondering why there's a limp "thump" in this version :P still love it though... this is by far my favorite musical, full of epic ballads and fantastic acting :)
GrimSan197 4 years ago
That makes a lot of sense, given the actors reaction after Sagramore throws the spear. Not sure why it isn't in this version.
gastonleroux1911 3 years ago
I used to watch this all the time as a kid, and this was one of my favorite parts! Thanks for putting this up!
evangeline777 4 years ago 6
This was one of the best parts of the movie. Such fine voices and handsome faces. Even Vanessa sang well!
petulapup 4 years ago
This is one of my favorite parts!
emphan89 4 years ago 3
Vanessa sounds very Mary Poppins, but I love her! She's so lovely and intense!
goodsoninc 3 years ago
Julie Andrews (Mary Poppins) was sweeter and sugar-coated...Vanessa Redgrave had a far more seductive, sensual and darker, sadder interpretation that is NOT like Mary Poppins...Vanessa made the role more human
AmericanEvita 3 years ago
Indeed
goodsoninc 3 years ago
Peter Bromilow, Sir Sagramore
Anthony Rogers, Sir Dinadan
Gary Marshal, Sir Lionel
Tellgryn 4 years ago 2
Thanks for the info.
verkaforever 4 years ago
Can anyone tell me the names of the actors who play the three nights?
I love Sir Sagramore's sinister laugh, before he says "I'll barbeque him!"
verkaforever 4 years ago 3
Great song! I can't stand Lancelot, and I love the lyrics the three knights sing.
"You'll disconnect him?"
"I'll vivesect him!"
Classic!
verkaforever 4 years ago 2
who is the one singing she has a nice vioce???
854477 4 years ago
She´s Vanessa Redgrave.
danilodemildias 4 years ago