PEREPITEIA GENERATOR DEMO VIDEO - Part 7

[Khwartz]

Hi, to have speed and acceleration is quiet good, but what about the torque? what if we connect mechanically an other generator and try to get some extra electrical power?

[rytymu]

So is this thing legit or what? I'm still trying to figure out if this thing really generates power on its own...

[TheDotcomet]

you should sheild your coils from the moter too bad theres not a good thin one you had

[fgleich]

maybe your next video will show how you use the energy generated in the coils to supply the induction motor stator, and supply part or all of the energy for the induction motor.

[kdkinen]

Incredible Thane :)

*question, is this the same for DC motors?

(i appologize in advance for the primitive questions:)

[vossua]

I would have to be there and observe the entire event personally and test everything before I was convinced.

From there I would have to see exactly what it is supposed to be doing, free energy or just the ability to spin a wheel of magnets...?

[madisonelectronic]

OK Eyeensteen, this is two years old. If it worked you by now would be 1: Dead 2: The richest man on earth. Knowing energy companies I would guess #1.

[CocksRobert]

Simple test to see if it is usefull!

Since the device has no output (the coils are either shorted or open), any power it generates has to be fed back to the motor driving it. So simply remove the device and see if the motor speeds up! If the motor runs faster without the device than it does with the device and the switches closed, then it's safe to conclude that it is a net power drain. But if the motor runs slower, then you might begin to argue that it's doing something useful.

[MrJetjoe]

hers a qustion in 1900 tomas edison designed stuff that all ran on batterys there did he get his power. there was no grid he was in a dispute with tesla? realy I know. too bad he lost the battle and the disigns that went with it ?

[techdavey1000]

@MrJetjoe In the old days enormous dynamos were used to generate Direct Current (it used to be called Continuous Current) Some industrial consumers would have vast battery halls to prevent power failures. The batteries would give them enough time to get their own standby generators running. DC is still used for long distance power transfer as more power can be sent down the line. There was no grid in the old days so generators had to be used during the day to charge batteries.

[davidtaubmann]

so This means... in a magnetically coupled generator, while more coils less force needs to be input to the motor.. right?

[inventhead]

as the stomach turns lol well it turns true but its not free and linking the in /out shafts will speed it up more did this allready rpms are very inportant n shaft size dia smaller =faster wider =slower

[georgedishman]

This series of videos all show the system free-running. What he needs to do is couple the shaft to a generator via a plastic rod and connect the output of that generator to a power resistor. Measure the voltage and current into that load and compare that with the power input to his system then calculate the efficiency when running at constant speed. Obviously there is kinetic energy stored in the rotating parts so he could briefly get more power out than in while the system is slowing down.

[noonco]

An important thing to show would be the motor running at full current with all coils removed (not simply in an open or closed state).

In trying to lend a rational explanation to this, I would guess that large coils self capacitance can create an opposing magnetic field even when in an open state (like the votage differential top and bottom of a Tesla Coil). When you short the coils, you remove this effect and decrease the resistance produced. This would natually give you all the effects shown.

[samoht1977]

think about: (almost) all of us know how about a generator works: put a load on the wires and more power is needed to run it - and you pay energy for such reason. Now, if they knew about that new kind of generator, and develop it and put it to work WITHOUT telling you anything, you continue to pay energy the old way, while they need less energy to run it... big money, isn't it? ... just (not so) weird thinking...

[slinkee2k]

I agree. I think that's a good point. Fact is, we should avoid paying anyone for electricity.

If each of us simply employs such "overunity" generators by his/her own means, on personal property, enough power can be made to satisfy each one's private needs, and we can even supply enough to turn our electricity meters backward (legally) to make our power companies owe us money. In NY state, I believe you get a tax break if you return "clean" grid elec...

What is so "not ready" about this system?

[samoht1977]

Here in Italy (but everywhere the so called "civilization" has evolved) there are "legal reasons" that tells if you do something "not the conventional way", you get sued. I mean, you can't do yourself your home electric circuit (forr example), because it's not approved by a qualified techician wich has to sign the approval and so on: everything is related to "security", at least is what they call it... We're put on a railroad wich is quite difficult to escape...

[slinkee2k]

Right, that is the same here. As long as you get an qualified technician approval, you can legally use the generator on your own property. You must be allowed by a licensed technician.

So "over-unity" is generally a misconception, but this kind of research can optimize generators by utilizing wasted energy. I think efficiency is the goal here, but "free energy" would be a great discovery.

By the way, I wish I knew some of the Italian language. :)

[hsigamj]

"LICENSED!!!" my ass, enuf Government, shoot the first electrician that shows up, they are morons, don't need any more F'n regulation from fugged up govt tyranny !!!

[techdavey1000]

@hsigamj Yup I'd agree with that. Most of the electrocutions in the UK are caused by people driving screws or nails into electric cables and most of the fires are caused by rats and mice gnawing the cables. Not the electricians fault so why bring in MORE crap regulations? Couldn't be a money making scheme could it? (lots of VAT on the rewiring jobs!) Having said all that GFCIs, RCDs, ELCBs (different names for the same thing) can make electricity virtually idiot proof.

[samoht1977]

[By the way, I wish I knew some of the Italian language.]

Just ask ;)

[techdavey1000]

@samoht1977 Ha, its got like that in the UK thanks to 2 Jags making domestic wiring a building trade. I've qualified as an engineer and serviced 11,000 volt high power equipment as part of my job but allegedly I'm not capable of doing Mickey Mouse wiring in my own home. The nulab government crashed the legislation through without even discussing it with the Institute of Electrical Engineers! (Engineers vote Conservative and builders vote Labour?) It sucks!

[Kohlmeise1973]

Everybody can buy a Multimeter and say he could save the peoples needs and promis: "I can provide free energy but its not ready yet !"

[metalminded]

does this video mean anything?

[javamark]

A motor generator typically generates electrical energy that is consumed in a load.

What is happening here is that the generated electrical power is being transferred back to the motor...thus the motor must accelerate!

Of course at no time does he disconnect the input voltage...this is always required for the stator.

Novel about this demonstration is that he has found a highly efficient means of feeding this energy back into the motor.Of course the energy isn't available then for loads.

[javamark]

It is also not new in the electrical world that an inductive load's back emf is sent back to the source. The power company frowns on this and for large inductive loads recommends a bank of capacitors to catch this energy for reuse (unity power factor).

There is no law that a back emf cannot be positive feedback to a separate coil...the coil in the rotor is separate from the generator coils...there is a law that it can't be positive feedback within the same coil!

[javamark]

And finally, a permanent magnets field is the same as an electromagnets. We would not be surprised if you used permanent magnets on your rotor and found greater speeds from stronger magnets! What is novel is the fact you can use this as unique way of changing rotor force. The patent would have passed I guess if you wrote it in this manner. One application would be breaking in an electrical car leading to increased generation of electricity.

[jamesroney]

Without electricity, it will not run on its own. You should have taken the camera off the tripod and given us a close up tour of your device.

How about building a totally fuelless, non-electric, magnetic motor.

Additionally, magnets eventually ware out and will need to be replaced or recharged at some point. Thus your device is far removed from being perpetual motion.

Shame on you. You yourself knows better than that to make such a claim of perpetual motion.

[Papachair]

Were in any of the videos is this claim made?

[Oetomoepi]

This in reply to Jamesroney.

This guy never made any claim that this is perpetual motion machine.

Somewhere in one of his videos he admitted not knowing the physics behind the phenomenon.

Permanent magnets do lose their magnetism after some time, but he is using induction motor which does not have permanent magnets in it, he is also just shorting out those external coils to speed up its rotation, no permanent magnets in this set up. This is just my observation, I may be wrong though.

[Fidelio76]

There are some strong rare earth magnets on the rotor wheel, that cause the induced emf in the coils that he's shorting out.

[xsyar]

depending on the coils inductance it takes diffrent amout of time to "load" it with flux, once the dc current are disconnected the flux will continue to flow (in same direction) and induce/create an electric back emf that can spike up x times the voltage if not drained. The electricity volt*amps are never greater than the input, this is basic electric. look at en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/­Electrical_impedance

[wuttevah]

This guy is already well documented elswhere on the web. Thats how I got here. There are experts out there who are aware of this and far more intelligent than anyone here. And they have yet to understand the phenomenon. So give the guy a break. You can't fault someone for stumbling on something no one ever tried before.

Now back to my Photvoltaics and Thermocouplers.

Kudos Mr. Heins!

[wuttevah]

This guy is already well documented elswhere on the web. Thats how I got here. There are experts out there who are aware of this and far more intelligent than anyone here. And they have yet to understand the phenomenon. So give the guy a break. You can't fault someone for stumbling on something no one ever tried before.

Now back to my Photvoltaics and Thermocouplers.

Kudos Mr. Heins!

[clifftrewin]

So don't close down the nuclear power and coal plants yet. Whatever work you extract from this system will be less than the amount of power you put in.

[clifftrewin]

There is nothing hidden here. He doesn't have a hidden power source. He never says anything about the motor's power source. He is obviously turning on a switch to a wall socket. He doesn't even care or thinks he is concealing anything.

But in the Toronto Star newspaper article, this is touted as perpetual motion. Once I see an outside source of energy this is not perpetual motion. Theoretically the flywheel can approach the speed of light without being perpetual motion.

[clifftrewin]

I see no perpetual motion here.  Current enters motor and speeds up fly wheel

[overunitydotcom]

Come to:

overunity dot com

There it is all documented.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[samej82]

it's gravity fed bro deal with it... yaa solar convection currents heat ocean water and turn it into clouds.. but water flows downhiill because of gravity..

[reptilianshifter]

Samej82 is right. The solar energy explanation, although right, is irrelevant.

[samej82]

Indirectly, like hydro-electric power plants.

[samej82]

if gravity can be a source of energy why not magnetism... Especially when we see that magnetism is a stronger force than gravity.

[upyoursspammer]

The induction motors used are never being run at their rated voltages. Their rotors do not have adequate magnetizing current and they are slipping severely. If the motors were allowed to run as the manufacturers intended I suspect that there would be little if any change in motor current with the application of additional magnetic fields. The speed could not change significantly under those conditions as that is determined by the power line frequency.

[upyoursspammer]

power = volts x amps

The generator is either shown operating open circuit where amps=0 or short circuit where volts=0. In both cases power output is zero. Can't it even power a light bulb?

Move along folks, there's nothing to see here.

[AnAnEmaul]

Thank you for that. My mistake, I did not fully read your statement with regard to a "premanet" magnet's potential energy and its useful magnetic force.

[pwiliam]

I suggest you look at Tom Bearden's Website, and his 34 flaws in classical EM theory. The whole subect has been supressed. It is a shame that my practical understanding of the subject is not up to speed. I would like to know what the figures are for power consumption,for the whole system,before and after back em is applied. Does the rpm increase,with less power consumtion in the whole system?, or is it just borrowed from somewhere else in the system?

[tes0087]

It's still hard to see what's going on, i'd like to see a schematic, oh well, i'm sure just to be on the safe side the oil companies have already sent out a team of hit men.

[AnAnEmaul]

That is not true. Magnets only last forever if nothing affects the magnetic field. You can wear a magnet out by using its field to push electrons. At least this is my interpretation from what others have proven. I have not proven this personally. No offense.

[rbairos1]

Somewhere, in a parallel universe, an alien family's lights are dimming and they are getting very annoyed ;)

But seriously, kudos for trying, hope something new comes of it.

[mikejd42]

Anyone who takes the time and effort to document what they do and post it for free for other people to gleam ideas from hold very high esteem in my book. Anyone who goes out of their way to put it down should point me to what they have done to attempt to advance science.

Thank you Mr. Perpeoteia! Well Done!!!

[generalfungus]

This is really cool. I can imagine generator systems that will be their own prime mover driving smaller generators, gear reduction systems, DC charging systems, etc. As long as the load allows the RPM to maintain the necessary EMF to compliment the input EMF for motor operation, and as long as the armature can handle the current without burning up I see this as a potential alternative to "status quo" energy sources. Keep up the good work, man!

[Nobby2001]

Perpetual Motion? Where that be at then induction motor boy?

[ruin41]

Well hats off to anyone who actually gets their hands dirty...but last time i looked the potential of a coil and its output voltage under load were the same eg 100v pot open equals 100v output when closed so why do the meters read almost 0 when closed and "loaded" ??? Not sure how you are achieving the speed increase but clearly this is something that is new and well worth investigating however it is also clear that u are implying output that doesnt exist or u would be showing us a self runner

[asloppyfck]

When "closed" he's shorting out the coils. This creates the maximum current flow. With power (Voltage*Current) constant voltage must drop.

[asloppyfck]

When closed the coils are shorted out. This induces the maximum current flow and thereby the maximum back EMF. Power remains constant, and since power=voltage*current. if one goes up the other must go down.

[PixelPi]

He's not measuring the frequency of the AC waveform coming off the generator... Why is measuring the AC frequency important? Because the frequency determines how fast the shaft in the motor can spin!

This is nothing more then using the motor to generate a higher frequency supply which then gets piped back into the motor... making it run faster.

His device is essentially a mechanical AC to AC frequency converter.

[hempev]

You mean he's mechanically doing what a transformer does? Is it any more efficient, or a waste of time? Transformers usually waste energy as heat, needing vents or fans to keep them cool.

[fuzzpault]

Why the fan? The back EMF (or something) probably enables the motor to use more energy, go faster, and hence why it needs the fan to keep it cool. The current and volt meters (which calculates power) assumes certain characteristics of the AC waveform, change that and they would not be correct. An oscilloscope would show what is really going on. OR run it on a car battery and inverter and see how long it goes with and without shorting the coils.

[bgroicahn]

It's a fraud, for the most part. Using an electric motor to run a generator back to the motor running it, there is no load if the motor is running trying to run ITSELF.

Put a REAL LOAD on it and it will do very little more than what it (the 1/8 HP motor) was originally designed to do. Every engineer knows that a higher voltage motor is more efficient, it is why hybrids don't run on 12 volt motors. Making use of back EMF should be investigated but this IS NOT IT! This is not real back EMF!

[asloppyfck]

What is the real back EMF? This motor obviously becomes more efficient. Whatever it is doing, it is running at high RPM with less power. Supposedly anyway, I think he's for real and plan to try to reproduce his results.

[ruin41]

i suggest that the magnet placed near the shaft only worked one way to make it go faster, other way would make it go slower so if the rotor magnets were the other way it would go faster to start with and back emf would slow it as it would normally do. If this was as good as it appears to be and mine i would have at least taken the time to reply to some of the posts here or correct them.

Also when more than one coil is used it should accelorate faster but doesnt which confirms its not the bemf

[forphuksake]

wow i dint watch all the videos, do you power your house with it?

[Zryuken]

I read a coment on his use of "dishwasher motors". People, this man is unemployed and recently divorced. If you don't like his choice of motor, BUY him a better one.

[lowtol]

I just wanted to thank everyone that has posted comments in this series of videos. That means you, stupid guy making random bewildered comments. And to you, people who don't know what they're talking about but talk anyway just to be shut down by someone who does. But that doesn't mean I forgot you either cynical physics degree guy with a raging case of the 'I-am-right-and-you-are-wrongs­'. I laughed consistently and a lot, and for that I thank you all.

[BOMBOVA]

the acoustical noise is ineffiency,, with all the glitzy elect tech gadgets, you would think this system would sport some fine machined test generators motors and alternators and dc system windings... but no fart around with dishwasher motors, come on my fellow canadian... get your self outa the garage , or build a class demo system to show.. the noisey system is junk.. plus 2 to 5 percent increase... , just build a class motor , generator set.. watch out for flying gimbals....

[Paxmax]

My personal vioce over:

'N' here we got some easter eggs, all painted in nice colors... I'm gonna try to insert some scientific words... and jiggle a little with the speed and try to say something worthwhile...

Also note some measurements... which desn't say jack squat. Then we turn off the powersource and the thing slows down... amazing!!!

[guestalten]

I think this works like an alternator, which is a generator with a power source to amplify its internal EMF. This is obviously increasing the motor's efficiency. Why poo-poo it? Why not instead ask what this does to the torque of the motor? But maybe it is trading torque for horsepower at higher speeds, which is often what one needs at higher speeds? Isn't this then a motor that performs well at high speeds and low speeds?

[dingusmungus]

I really want to see power consumption and speed with no load what so ever. Just run a FULLY unloaded motor to test if it is going faster. Also don't short the coils, load them with a low resistance bulb or heating coil. It should have the same effect as a short, but it'll also prove that load is on the coil.

[rev413]

the guy has obviously paid a price for his findings, and he has done the right thing by having it tested. we will see

[lerieu]

It is a good test to hire physicists if they are able to pinpoint the errors !!

A basic electomagnet brake, like used in trucks, trains like TGV.

When you change the coils connections, you increases or decreases the brake. He does not show the speed with no iron of the coils in front of the rotating magnets. A proof is that this free speed is higher than any others.

It would more convincing showing his lawnmover cutting grass with no power cord or battery !!

or a TGV without nuclear power

[kestaha]

C'est de la connerie française en action. Ton TGV n'est pas le summum de la technologie! Réveille-toi!

Cette démonstration intrigue mais n'est pas à être méprisée. Si tu étais aussi fort, mesure-toi avec ceux que tu crois être tes égaux, les Chinois et les Indiens par exemple!

Ou boucle-la définitivement!

[orkalass]

CLEARLY that fan on the side is strong enough to keep the magnets in rotation. He then controls the speed of the fan via that remote. SMOKE AND MIRRORS!!!!!

[ThermoNuclearGerbil]

How much power does the motor use in the steady state when all of your coils are open, and what are the RPM readings? When the coils are shorted? How about when the coils are completely removed from the system?

[AnAnEmaul]

The cameraman is clueless.

Wish he had shown the readings on the meter during the entire test.

[whatever9899]

can someone tell me how a magnet continues to generate a force...enough said...this thing is real and if Heins hasn't perfected it, someone else will...just got to harness the force from the magnet...

[hewsondion]

yeah bro...it is all in the magnets...

[fuzzpault]

A magnet is like an invisible spring but only with ferrite metals. You compress a spring and it exerts a force back to resist your force. Same idea in magnets.

[CoreyDillonNFL]

ok, im stupid, explain this please. is this the solotion to alternative energy? or am i insane for saying that.

[xlneoMAXlx]

shit just bend the wheel spokes a bit and make a mega-fan. lulz

[BankersAreAssassins]

truly awesome

[AnAnEmaul]

If you were to prove this, in earnest, violates the law of conservation of energy, why regulate the speed? Granted, the engine did not appear to be able to fully withstand the centrifugal force. But if he were to attempt to prove this point, go the distance. The motor would continually accelerate. Now that would be proof enough for me.

[noeatingallowed]

It's a perpetual motion machine! Woo-Hoo! The messiah has brought unto us his perpetualness! I'm eating Pizza Hut tonight!

[AnAnEmaul]

LOL

[desertphool]

fucking catholics... my imaginary god is better than your imaginary god!! i'm eating your mom tonight

[AnAnEmaul]

Am I wrong on this. Hypothetical perpetual motion devices do not require any energy in to start. They intiate themselves when fully assembled. Why are people saying it is a perpetual motion device? I do not have a background in physics, but that is just common sense. No offense meant by this statement.

[AnAnEmaul]

I guess it will all depend on how he handles the whole situation. If you were to make the same setup based on his idea for personal use, all is okay (not absolutely sure on this). But if you were to sell the system or make money from the same, then there could be a problem with patent infringement.

[rev413]

this device is plugged into the wall! if he unplugs it, and it continues to run, then it is perpetual motion. if it overcomes it's own friction and losses. until the device supplies all its own motive force it is not perpetual motion. it does use a lot less input current though.

[xdocfoxx]

You are absolutely correct. Which is exactly why the inventor is not claiming that this is perpetual motion.

[jcims]

That's got to be 3500+ rpm

[rev413]

this device is not perpetual motion, it is a more efficient motor, remember there is a load on this unit, the motor is driving magnets around a coil assembly. but the effect is additive. he is using the energy in the magnetic field to impart power to the motor. he is harvesting energy from the environment. thst is what magnets do!

[vtyhw]

If the acceleration draw is 1:1 or more with the load applied, then it is a perpertual motion machine.

[ripfire4]

Either way, there should still be some loss due to friction. From the looks of that motor, I'm sure that's far from frictionless.

[ripfire4]

That can only mean that the system may be losing torque to increase RPM.

[ice007man]

Patent Office will not even look at devices related to perpetual motion. Not saying his device is, but the examiner would require him to demo anything that goes against the laws of physics (etc) in a closed environment. Seriously doubt he will get an examiner willing to test it.

[AnAnEmaul]

Also, he has (not personally, but byway of somebody else) filed patents on this idea reported in an article posted on TheStar (dot) com. He sound to me as if he is a fine upstanding human being with an idea. Regretably his idea has cost him much. If it works as well as he predicts, many will be against it, as it will revolutionize alot.

[AnAnEmaul]

Am I wrong in my interpretation of this. It isn't perpetual motion, just a more efficient engine. In other words, the potential energy produced by gasoline and oxygen in an engine produce a certain amount of energy/force out, but only a percentage of the potential in. This engine is just more efficient. Sure it accelerates, but nothing is being taken out. The energy in is him initially starting the rotation of the motor/generator. Am I wrong in this assumption?

[FarikJarrah]

No.

[123aware]

what you need to do is remove all of generator coils and record the voltage/current and rpm at the same setting on your fan control...I think you will find that the induction motor itself can drive the magnetic flywheel more efficiently than the combined motor and generator

[versarchi]

about this time is when catastrophic mechanical failure results in flying debri

[BackmanBanzai]

Great job, I hope you get the attention this deserves... and quickly.

[pixelpump]

I want to believe!

[toomanytells]

i think i'll believe it when he generates power for his own house with this contraption. Why spend time posting on youtube? spend that time with a patent lawyer instead.

[gabydewilde]

Anyone with a basic background in physics instantaneously understands why this machine makes free energy.

Keep up the good work sir.

:-)

[IdiotSlapper]

Anyone with a background in physics wouldn't make a stupid statement like that until you have measured the ability to do work and how much power is required to do that work. That has not been done.

All that has been demonstrated is that this converts torque into speed.

[gabydewilde]

Ah yes, the conversation of energy conspiracy theory.

I can assure you that thinking outside the closed system is perfectly safe. There is nothing to be afraid of.

It's just magnets. :-)

[IdiotSlapper]

You make fun of people that ask legitimate questions like what is the total amount of work done per input of power.

Maybe you are the one that is afraid of reality?

It's just science. :-)

[gabydewilde]

I agree, the real world can be quite scary. As for the illegitimacy of the question, I think you put quite a lot of energy in the comment. What is the amount of work done per input of power here?

Please, do use the search engine and read up on this most interesting tech.

search: "Back EMF"

If you bother to search you will find amazing things that are indeed equal to magic but so was the fax machine.

[jimmajamma]

I agree.

In your car, engage the brake and keep it pressed, put the car in gear and then press the gas halfway down. Your car and brake are the load, wheels go slow.

Then jack your drive wheels up off the ground, press the gas halfway down. The wheels spin much faster than the 1st scenario. You can let off the gas and the wheel will still spin much faster, load is less, so higher speed.

What he hasn't done is fixed the input power and then test the output of the raw motor vs. his contraption.

[jimmajamma]

FYI, I was agreeing and replying to IdiotSlapper.

[IdiotSlapper]

It would be difficult to know you were replying to my comment since the user gabydewild's stupid post was deleted. God I hate censorship!

So dishonest and lacking integrity, that has been my every experience of GabydeWild and the free energy ilk that would rather have a magical thought than science.