Chapdelaine should of known better than to change the fingerings for a masterclass of Segovia. Did he really think Segovia was going to say, "Micheal you have shown me the flaws of my decades and decades of classical guitar experience."
It is important to remember that there are reasons for the fingerings that Segovia used as given in the pieces played, many of which he even transcribed for the guitar himself. Even MC admits that he was wrong by attempting to change the voice of the piece, which is what he did. Therein was his mistake, not solely with the fingering but in his entire approach to the music. Segovia saw that MC needed a haircut and gave him one. The idea was not to become the master, it was to learn from him.
OK I think this guy is amazing. I would LOVE for him to be my teacher. I do the same thing all the time! I would play the way i feel sounds best. I always change other people's work to my liking. That is not a bad thing, otherwise we should just listen to computer generated music.
Segovia has a hole on the head, maybe his brain totally evaporated during this masterclass. Awful human being, just before the teacher and the musician.
It's ironic in a pathetic way. Segovia followed his ideas to become what he was, yet he won't allow others the same liberty. We never needed another Segovia clone--pity Segovia chose to be so destructive. Thank goodness Bream, Russell, and now Galbraith and the others had the good sense to carve their own way away from AS and the he world is richer. Sure Segovia played the chaconne first on the guitar, but he sure hell didn't play it the best... None of AS interpretations are definitive IMO
Segovia loses all credibility for me, first for never being able to play Bach well, and second for being a consummate ass to MC in this horrific video. Segovia is no god, that's for sure just a petty egomaniac. MC played beautifully and clearly invested so much to get to this very very high level. AS could have offered "constructive" critiques, yet, he chose to destroy well deserved confidence for no legitimate reason. Elevating the guitar does not give AS the right. He sullied his legacy..
@erikolten It's interesting that Chapdeleine himself would disagree with you. It was misplaced confidence, and he knew it after being rebuked by the master. This is what he says in so many words. He needed to be broken in order to be teachable. Simple.
@Jemoh66 Sorry, I do not agree at all, nor do I believe Segovia was "The Master" MC earned his confidence and served up impeccable playing. Sure MC got abused, but he had already proven himself teachable by reaching the high level that he did. Segovia could have encouraged MC's artistic freedom, but insead we got crass rigidity. When does one ever need "to be broken"?? This is19th century BS... I certainly do not consider Segovia "The Master." Many players have given better stuff
@erikolten Thanks for the reply. Well I like your comment about his teachableness at least that brought him to that level; that's fair. But MC himself says he had only played for 3 or 4 years and was playing a piece by a man who has played the guitar for near 70 yrs. He was with Ponce he says when he wrote the piece. If he is as great as you say what did he seek an audience with the master? As for the being broken comment, just because a value is modern doesnt make it right.
un verdadero maestro sabe transmitir con su espiritu y sensibilidad a la otra persona,para que ésta encuentre su propia manera de tocar ,su propia manera de transmitir lo que la música nace de él.y no esta cosa media dictatorial de que se debe hacer como yo digo o esta escrito,incluso puedes llegar a hacerle mucho daño a una persona con estas actitudes totalitarias....la música fluye,es respiración....y no creo que Segovia represente eso...mal todo mal....
Grande rispetto per il Maestro ma com'era poco umano e comprensivo...
Un allievo prediletto da Segovia, Oscar Ghiglia, insegnava con la stessa ferocia e cattiveria pur non avendo la stessa classe e inciampando sulla chitarra spesso e volentieri!
Credo che di Segovia sia meglio ascoltarlo solo suonare.
Michael obliviously didn't give Segovia what he wanted. On top of that Michael praised Segovia to the skies only to carve a career on the hippie guitar player circuit. Watch Michael's eyes and you will see the lies in his praise for Segovia, lies he can almost believe: that there is only one way to play Ponce. What Michael learned is that Segovia was an asshole and to go the other way: long hair, pop songs, etc. That was truly in his heart, to be an artist rather than a living shade to Segovia.
I am truly impressed and inspired by Michael especially in this clip. if viewing this from begining to end for the first time ever, as I did this evening, and you are truly passionate in your appreciation for, and connection with, each masterpiece you play, it is clearly seen here that Michael is the epidomy of forgetting how to play by the rules, and tranisitioning into playing by your heart. And therein, you find masterpieces played by a true master.
Michael, you were brave. And you handled the criticism well. Too many students today just want to have their egos stroked. Sometimes (as Martín Prechtel said) you have to sit there like a cat taking a crap and take the criticism). I will agree that Michael is a great guitarist today and this experience that he went through can only contribute to that). And re: the other comments I read: stop the abusive name calling! More than one opinion can exist!!
Wow, what an impressive individual in Chapdelaine! He was able to get past the barbed wire packaging and receive the content of what Segovia delivered. I think that only an artist of the highest caliber could have done what he did.
After quite a while of reading negative comments here and there about this famous chewing by Segovia I finally found this video n let me tell you:
If you don't play an instrument or do other art, craft or sport, and you've never been thru something like this it can be hard 2 understand how this could amount 2 anything good, but just take a second listen 2 Michael's words afterwards.
A good 'ego ass-kicking' can give you so many new perspectives!
Well, we dont see, but can obviously HEAR how important a fingering is. Second: you go to a master and instead of working on all the effort Segovia made on chord voicing (wich includes fingerring!!!), then to simply fuck it all with expressionless playing/fingerring, that would make even a calm person crazy. Many people wanted to be there. Also, my best teachers where the severe ones. End of history. Call it human ?
what most of comments do not understand that to reach the Segovia"s level, it is a huge summ of efforts, it is a sacerdoce. SO, if a student of Segovia is not prepared to be insutled, no need to ask for a masterclass from such a genius. Even, I know some equivalent as Segovia who would never accept to loose their time to give masterclass to such medium musicians.
Obvious to see why he was so upset. Master class you learn from the master lol. But their was a time Segovia himself transcribed and arranged works of Tarrega/Bach, furthermore he was looked down on by many of Tarrega's pupils according to wiki. What I find impressive is the interview after, Chapdelaine has such a mature intelligent response and nothing but respect for this man. However it is sad to see that although Segovia was a master in his works, he never matured as a human being.
Narciso Yepes had technique and tone that SMOKED Segovia. I agree with some of the comments, he was just bitter and old in this. Regardless of his cultural attitude or attitude towards the music, he could have been more constructive and helpful. He just comes off as arrogant and I've lost some respect for him. Yepes was the true master. Did you ever hear of Segovia designing a 10-string classical guitar to compensate for sympathetic vibration loss? No..he just played and bitched
@clovis2012 I could name probably about 50 people before we get to the unsalted Narciso Yepes,all far behind the guitar phenomenon which was Segovia.
Like him or not, Segovia was the person who took the guitar from the hands of gypsies and made it the favorite solo instrument music vehicle for all the intellectual people for ever.
Often big personalities are competitive and/or challenging ,but that is a small price you pay when approach geniuses .
@Rockuskidz My friend... POPULAR MUSIC may not be about fingerings and techniques... CLASSICAL MUSIC on the other hand is ALL about technique and fingering. He is a classical guitarrist that help the common ear, listen to classic music. That is the way a MASTER teaches a master class, he is not there to grade you he is there to teach the rudaments.
please for fingering dispute hear Segovia BWV saraband 996, see his intial fingerring, then watch all the other videos and HEAR how important is the fingering to toning/voicing. Also, spanish people and italians have that kind of rude tone heaheheh sorry but it´s my though
@emouch1 true, and final point. Only if you really, really play classical guitar, but ... you may not be THE master, but at least, at least!!!, one should already acknowledge that fingerings DOES MATTER. So... anyone, ANYONE, that says that fingerring is not important, should at least study how the same note sounds in different string ! So simple task to hear and understand.
Segovia was not an incredible artist. He was forever jealous of Tarrega. Segovia was not a composer; he was just another guitarrist like so many we have today. He made a lot of noise with his left hand. His left hand technique left much to be desired. He was just a guitarist at a time when there weren't that many good guitarists around. A cranky bitter old man.
Qué fuerte. Definitivamente un obsesivo de la perfección musical e interpretativa en la guitarra. Lo que me dejó perplejo es cuando dijo que el criticó a Tarrega y Pujol!!. Por Dios como va a crticiar a Francisco Tarrega, y sobre todo por los portamentos que tanto estilo le dieron a sus composiciones. Pero bueno sus razones tendrá
I would have been very unlikely to react with such maturity and wisdom, and I'm 62 Even so, I do think that fingerings are to some degree a personal choice, where taste and who you are as an artist at a particular moment come into play. Are you trying to be Segovia, or to express what you hear as a possibility in the music at a particular time in your life? What you hear will change as you develop, and there is surely no final word, or completely authoritative version.
I would have been very unlikely to react with such maturity and wisdom, and I'm 62 Even so, I do think that fingerings are to some degree a personal choice, where taste and who you are as an artist at a particular moment come into play. Are you trying to be Segovia, or to express what you hear as a possibility in the music at a particular time in your life. What you hear will change as you develop, and there is surely no final word, or completely authoritative version.
I think Michael learned much from this critique of a Master. Today, when you hear Micheal play..believe me his guitar sings beautiful, and it comes alive with joy and you feel the love of the music. Micheal is no shmuck today! Micheal got the lesson of his life, and lesson that changed his life for the better. Now, Micheal is the master...and I would love to be a student of his. He said to me "my playing was like a gymnast who had a bad Coach" I take his critique to heart...cause he is right!
Es fácil criticar al maestro Segovia por su comportamiento, pero en ningún momento hay una cámara detrás de Segovia que nos enfoque qué es lo que lee. Puede que haya tachones o notas cambiadas. Le pregunta a Michael por qué ha quitado portamentos y ha cambiado digitaciones y al no saber contestarle, tenía todo a su favor para echarle la bronca.
Chapdelaine attended the Segovia Master class and used altered fingerings thus its little surprise he got chewed out. Previous Segovia students (Parkening, Bream, Williams ) played their Segovia Master Classes using Segovia fingerings so either Chapedlaine thought he was good enough to choose his own approach or that the Segovia fingerings were inferior. Hardly a choice for a student to make. More experienced and accomplished Segovia students (those mentioned above) didn't try this.
Para entender correctamente a un maestro de este calibre, hay que estar sintonizado con el, hablar su idioma, muy mal que el profesor tenga que hablar ingles, el estudiante es el interesado, debía hablar español, puesto que el maestro piensa en español. sus pensamientos profundos que hacen que interprete así la guitarra están en español.
FUCK Segovia this old senile man !!! he speaks english and spanih , he is sooooo pretentious !!!! I have never seen such an asshole !!!!!!! Dans le four recdi !!!
With all due respect to Michael, at that time, he never really answered Segovia on why he changed the fingering. All masters of any art form can find out a lot about a students thinking/learning by asking question. Sometimes even the master gets to learn about something new from the student answer. Music like martial arts is infinite. I find both people in this vidieo fascinating.
It should be a risk to change Segovia's transcription and still use his transcription. Segovia was an amazing man for his time, there were not many like him who had a high level of technique, only a handful. The caliber of playing now is the highest that it has ever been, and it is no doubt due to the quality of pedagogy that you can find at Universities around the world.
In the military you get beat down even harder if you waiver in your opinion and coorect your pitiful explanation on the subject of your deviation from decorum. Good man for stand up for his individual expression. The only thing I can see that is of concern is, Chapdelaine's void of using dynamics. Peaks and valleys of expression are vital, as opposed to linear volume and tone.
Segovia, omg,, such irritating person he was,, I know of persons who stopped playing the guitar because of his temperament,,, " if you don`t play my transcription go to someone else" ,, come on,,
Segovia was an egomaniac. It was what made him a great performer, but at the same time made him an inept teacher. Look at what he does here; telling the student that what they are doing is wrong, yet not actually telling them WHY it is wrong. He just kicks him off the stage rather then deal with the humiliation of someone making a piece sound great with fingerings other than his. He didn't have an ounce of advice to give? Well then he's incompetent as a teacher than.
Segovia was indeed a great but his arrogance shines thru here. Segovia knows that chapdelaines playing of mallorca shits all over his and thats y hes pissed off. One minute he tells him to carry on he doesnt mind the next, once he hears the quality of chapdelaine tells him to fuck off lol He couldnt handle being second best
Guys this is not about the character of Segovia. Don't judge greatness of a person by his style or character. Segovia was simply great, and was great as a teacher too and if you listen to what Chapdelaine had to say about the experience he confirms it. The main point some of you are missing is that something essential got transferred to Chapdelaine.
Segovia was a douche... I prefer Chapdelaine over Segovia any day. Yeah, yeah.. I know he made the guitar famous and respected, but he also stopped people like Stravinskij to write for it by insulting them.
He was great and first, but to be honest... I've had several students that play better than he ever did. Just listen to Segovia play Bach. So disrespectful of the music... it sounds romantic, bulky conservative Segovia, not magical Bach.
Yes.... Then I teach them that no matter how good they play, how great sound they have, how intelligent their fingering is... they are nothing... And they have to leave offerings at a Segovia shrine. If they dare to play anything the way the composer intended I slap them and tell them "No you little idiot! Play it like He did..."
Yes I know. I have a 6 year university degree in classical guitar and composition. I've played all of Segovias Albeniz transcriptions as well as all Bach lute suites on 11-stringed alto guitar and 6-stinged. I know about fingering, trust me... That is why I am always extra careful when I stumble upon Sevogias fingerings. They are rarely very musical. He's mixing apoyandos and tirandos and cutting off notes as it pleases him, not as it serves the original composition.
@toffetoff This switching from apoyando and tirandos by Segovia, does this in your experiance distroy the music he is playing? Has it no positive contribution to the sound? If Segovia is doing whatever he feels like without thinking about what it will do with the sound...why do people consider him a wonderful musician and a genious? I hardly know the man but what I do not like about his playing is the ease of with he does things.
@toffetoff Perhaps you aren't up to the task of playing the fingerings, which is why you find them to be "unmusical". Students rarely appreciate the thought put into fingering selections thinking it to be arbitrary. One notes that PArkening, Bream, and Williams all employed Segovia fingerings and they didn't whine about them. Lastly please feel free to post your recitals and examples that demonstrate how these fingersings are "unmusical" and convince us that yours are superior....
@bowiemott Also this answer for Toffetoff... Segovia is not overated, he´s Segovia, not a composer, but a GREAT and respected guitar player, why ? Because of something that great masters understand and see as mastery, some cannot see it, sees only arbitrary interpretation as toffetoff. Isn´t that what makes him, ironically, so well reputed in the guitar world ? haha Also, see Segovia playing BWV sarabande 996, see his fingering and then watch all the other videos and HEAR the difference !
@potrodsas The way Chapdelaine reflects on his experiance with Segovia make me think of how some of the chefs appreciated it to be humiliated by Gordon Ramsay. GR has earned his status and knows what he is doing and evrything has a purpose although it isn't always directly obvious. In the end they are always grateful for the harsh lessons.
Sometimes a teacher, if he is a master of himself and knows what he is doing, he can be rough to the student. Maybe that is the only way for the student to evolve. But this shouldn't happen in a masterclass! I'm sure that Chapdelaine's ego wasn't destroyed that way, but reinforced... waiting to become an authoriry like Segovia and do that to younger people himself... i feel that Segovia acted through his ego, not through his soul.
segovia had some issues, he was jealous of julian bream (said he plays spanish guitar with a english accent or something)
But he is old school. you do it his way or the hi way. Apparently Segovia's style worked for him. Current American soft teaching isn't at work here.
School of hard knocks . . . sometimes this works w/ some people and it doesn't with others. But if you have a good teacher and he's / she's rough, the tough may learn something. . .
As a professional educator I would be fired if I used Segovia's humiliation tactics. He is obviously intimidated by Chapdelaine's potential and wants to establish who the "Maestro" is. Chapdelaine handles the abuse well. This video shows what a poor teacher Segovia was. You can critique and instruct without being mean spirited about it. I only hope someone put him in his place before he croaked. What a small, arrogant man.
A stupid person resorts to profanity when they have nothing intelligent to say. I never said anything about Segovia's contribution to the guitar, only his shortcomings as a teacher. John Williams has said as much, but I'm sure you're a much better player and know more than John Williams.
he is the maestro. he singlehandedly brought solo classical guitar music back into light in the 20th century. Surely he is being harsh, but reducing him to an small arrogant man is similarly harsh.....i smell some jealousy of the maestro
I had a master class with Mr. Chapdelaine and got my teenager monster ego blown out of the water in a similar fashion. This is funny at poor Mr. C's expense. I think the issue is musicality. You have to feel the music, eat drink and breathe the music. Musicality is such a fleeting thing on the guitar and can be easily shaken and lost. I think in the end, it taught him a lesson because the guy is a genius now.
For all those who question Segovia, listen to what Chapdelaine says about Segovia himself. He was a man who knew the composer and shared in this creation.Chapdelaine mistake was not in playing, but rather thinking he could impress Segovia.He gave his life to preserving whatever tradition was left, and we have very little left of what he gave us.
What happened here was that Chapdelaine was using Segovia's edition of the piece he played. However Segovia noticed that Chapdelaine was performing different fingerings, markings etc.
In turn Segovia got offended and rushed him off stage.
his sound was very beautiful and if he lacked depth of age or experience.
that's why we commit our life to this instrument.
to learn the lessons of life and voice it in our music.
I still love the conversation I had with Angel Romero who got in his face
in his earlier life( a young monster player) and pissed Segovia off, but in the end Segovia held Angels hands and said,what a gift god gave us in these hands.
It's a little lost in translation. In Spanish he would say "hace lo que quieras" which is meant do be sarcastic. Translated properly it would be along the lines of "Do whatever the fuck you want" which is indicative of him starting to get really pissed.
jajajaja en el min 1:45 Chapdelaine ya está hasta las narices de Segovia jajajaj le está tocando los webs a base de bien ajjajaja (touching eggs) xD y ahora es cuando llega su clásica critica al portamento, y de paso a Tárrega y a todos. Dicen que Beethoven tenía también muy mal carácter.
The fingering wasn't necessarily wrong, it was just different to Segovias. It probably achieved the same result. I have fairly small hands, so sometimes I have to change to play some parts. Anyway what did Segovia want? A clone of himself. Its precisely the thing that musicians should not be. All great musicians were individualistic. Thats what makes it fascinating --- maybe Segovias fingering was wrong!
Este tio como guitarrista era indiscutiblemente bueno pero como porofesor era horrible y en esta masterclass chochea y no deja tocar al alumno diciendole que siga su transcripción, que tio más estupido.
Se enoja porque no respetó sus digitaciones(que jamás podrían ser las definitivas!!..),luego hace un sonido como de "perro rabioso",le destruye su fraseo,critica a Tárrega y Pujol !!?por lo mismo,le dice que toque otra versión si va a "cambiar cosas"..y luego lo echa de la forma más brutal:Fuera!...
gracias, intuia algo por el estilo. Cuando comence a estudiar guitarra clasica y escuche de segovia, lo idolatrre sin siquiera conocerlos. Ahora, despues de haber investigado su vida, su obra me doy cuenta que era un pesimo ser humano. No fue un artistica completo. En lo personal considero a A. barrios superior a segovia. saludos
Miguel Llobet fue absolutamente superior a Segovia en todos los aspectos,y que decir del gran Barrios Mangoré...un genio infinitamente superior...qué queda de Segovia? ego,ego,ego....
A good teacher should help a student understand the music....should tell them why one particular way of playing is better.........not to bash them and tell them to leave!! segovia was an incredible player but not a good teacher....
Actually I heard that some of the people Segovia bashed became friends of his and studied under him. I think it was right Segovia to be so stern. He was trying to make the guitar looked upon better instead of some instrument that is not worth composing for. He couldn't just talk to the people softly or they won't take him seriously. He's kinda like a boot camp instructor.
What a stupid man Segovia was!! What a narrow view What an arrogant man.I don´t believe what I´ve seen!!! Stupid spanish guitarrist!! What a less educated man!!!beside what a lack of ear speaking english,what an insult to the UK!!
chapeau for chapdelaine, such sweet tones he produced, what remains after seeing the poor Segovia is deep respect for Chapdelaine who obviously loves music deep in his soul.
Was this supposed to teach something to the poor fella? What a waste of time lol...never mind, chapdelaine was out of his mind making excuses for this lame "masterclass"....thankfully albeniz' music doesn't depend on segovia's idiotic fingerings.
I got the same impression too. He was making excuses for him. Had it been me, I would have been pissed that I spent all that money on a masterclass only to be told to leave because I played a passage in a different position.
I'm working on a Prelude (no. 1) and as I was writing out the music and trying to figure out the best fingerings, I was getting frustrated and needed some direction. Listening to Chapdelaine here, I realize what I need is a good teacher. The music I want to play is already written and a technique and approach has been worked out. I just have to put my experience and emotion behind it all to breathe my own life into it. Good video.
This is a bad video of Segovia but, I give him the BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. You gotta realize that Segovia was a VERY old man here, and he was probably hurting inside physically (didn't he die a year later?). Unfortunately, this unlucky guy happened to be with him on his "bad day". This students should have gotten his teachings/criticisms during his younger years, and I bet the experience would be better, if not, wonderful!
Sometimes painful. But if the lesson is remembered. And one takes his art seriously and does not pretend,
Then Segovia's anger was a priceless gift.
But often the young think they know everything. they don't listen or respect their elders, They just want to use the masters name without an understanding of his values, and the tremendous responsibility to hold up the art of music,
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This is an amazing video. What a lesson. Profound.This is a "Masterclass" . Segovia is the teacher here. "arrogant douchebag" ???? you display some serious ignorance. This is not a concert This student
guitarist is there to learn from the "merciless" master.
Segovia knows the ropes here. He has climbed the mountain. You want to be "good. "Segovia knows what it takes. Its like climbing mount Everest. A HUGE effort. To get to that place. It was a test.
Segovia becomes furious that Chapdelaine didn't use the fingerings Segovia notated, the piece isn't complicated enough to warrant any kind of strict fingering. Segovia gets upset it's not his way. He's doesn't let Chapdelaine finish the piece because the fingerings where changed, give me a fucking break.
Just because Segovia was proficient at something doesn't mean he should be such a cunt about it. He wanted everyone to play pieces exactly like him, that's not what music is about.
And you're holier-than-thou, care to compare dicks even further? Heaven forbid someone has a different opinion than you, you go pretty hand-in-hand with Segovia. Being that I'm so "inexperienced," what are your prerequisites to analyze such masterclass, champ?
Thanks for the new-aged psychedelic bullshit; maybe you should respond with some weight behind your comments. Rather than hide behind these vague statements of superiority, just get to the facts. Or are you too "sophisticdated" for that?
It was Albeniz himself who said he preferred the guitar transcriptions of his music to the piano originals. Why? Because Spanish music is full of soul, and the melody has to be 'sung', not hammered as in a piano (especially in a piece played at this tempo). Portamento is so important!
Segovia knew the voice of Spain is in the guitar, not the piano. Michael was honest enough to admit he had to be "broken down" in order to be able to see the light.
dude why are you all bashing segovia. He was an immensly good player and if it wasnt for his teaching, the greats we know today wouldn't be nearly as good because he was such a prolific teacher and inspiration to beginners. Plus, he does play this rather dry. ha listen to breams version and you will see what i mean.
teaching is about your interpretation of the tools given to you. Even the teacher that you've been with for years doesn't tell you how you must play, but rather how it sounds better
Michael Chapdelaine's patronizing suck-up remarks about Andres Segovia were hard to watch. His choice of words, body language, and lack of sincerity were dripping with contempt.
Which sonh did he played?
Schufti17 3 weeks ago
Chapdelaine should of known better than to change the fingerings for a masterclass of Segovia. Did he really think Segovia was going to say, "Micheal you have shown me the flaws of my decades and decades of classical guitar experience."
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DealMartClassical 2 months ago
It is important to remember that there are reasons for the fingerings that Segovia used as given in the pieces played, many of which he even transcribed for the guitar himself. Even MC admits that he was wrong by attempting to change the voice of the piece, which is what he did. Therein was his mistake, not solely with the fingering but in his entire approach to the music. Segovia saw that MC needed a haircut and gave him one. The idea was not to become the master, it was to learn from him.
achislene 4 months ago
OK I think this guy is amazing. I would LOVE for him to be my teacher. I do the same thing all the time! I would play the way i feel sounds best. I always change other people's work to my liking. That is not a bad thing, otherwise we should just listen to computer generated music.
StealthGenius 5 months ago
segovia got shot in the head.
ipoodaily 6 months ago
1:21 Si Segovia dice "continue.." ¿porqué vuelve a comenzar desde el principio?
GuitarMaster2410 7 months ago
Boy, leesohn!
woodyee 7 months ago
Segovia has a hole on the head, maybe his brain totally evaporated during this masterclass. Awful human being, just before the teacher and the musician.
liszt80 7 months ago
It's ironic in a pathetic way. Segovia followed his ideas to become what he was, yet he won't allow others the same liberty. We never needed another Segovia clone--pity Segovia chose to be so destructive. Thank goodness Bream, Russell, and now Galbraith and the others had the good sense to carve their own way away from AS and the he world is richer. Sure Segovia played the chaconne first on the guitar, but he sure hell didn't play it the best... None of AS interpretations are definitive IMO
erikolten 9 months ago
Segovia loses all credibility for me, first for never being able to play Bach well, and second for being a consummate ass to MC in this horrific video. Segovia is no god, that's for sure just a petty egomaniac. MC played beautifully and clearly invested so much to get to this very very high level. AS could have offered "constructive" critiques, yet, he chose to destroy well deserved confidence for no legitimate reason. Elevating the guitar does not give AS the right. He sullied his legacy..
erikolten 9 months ago
@erikolten It's interesting that Chapdeleine himself would disagree with you. It was misplaced confidence, and he knew it after being rebuked by the master. This is what he says in so many words. He needed to be broken in order to be teachable. Simple.
Jemoh66 7 months ago
@Jemoh66 Sorry, I do not agree at all, nor do I believe Segovia was "The Master" MC earned his confidence and served up impeccable playing. Sure MC got abused, but he had already proven himself teachable by reaching the high level that he did. Segovia could have encouraged MC's artistic freedom, but insead we got crass rigidity. When does one ever need "to be broken"?? This is19th century BS... I certainly do not consider Segovia "The Master." Many players have given better stuff
erikolten 7 months ago
@erikolten Thanks for the reply. Well I like your comment about his teachableness at least that brought him to that level; that's fair. But MC himself says he had only played for 3 or 4 years and was playing a piece by a man who has played the guitar for near 70 yrs. He was with Ponce he says when he wrote the piece. If he is as great as you say what did he seek an audience with the master? As for the being broken comment, just because a value is modern doesnt make it right.
Jemoh66 7 months ago
un verdadero maestro sabe transmitir con su espiritu y sensibilidad a la otra persona,para que ésta encuentre su propia manera de tocar ,su propia manera de transmitir lo que la música nace de él.y no esta cosa media dictatorial de que se debe hacer como yo digo o esta escrito,incluso puedes llegar a hacerle mucho daño a una persona con estas actitudes totalitarias....la música fluye,es respiración....y no creo que Segovia represente eso...mal todo mal....
TheMikelbaigo 9 months ago 2
che viejo loco.. lose es segovia y se ke es u nchingon pero che loko
laguasa1 9 months ago
Grande rispetto per il Maestro ma com'era poco umano e comprensivo...
Un allievo prediletto da Segovia, Oscar Ghiglia, insegnava con la stessa ferocia e cattiveria pur non avendo la stessa classe e inciampando sulla chitarra spesso e volentieri!
Credo che di Segovia sia meglio ascoltarlo solo suonare.
unghiata 10 months ago
Michael obliviously didn't give Segovia what he wanted. On top of that Michael praised Segovia to the skies only to carve a career on the hippie guitar player circuit. Watch Michael's eyes and you will see the lies in his praise for Segovia, lies he can almost believe: that there is only one way to play Ponce. What Michael learned is that Segovia was an asshole and to go the other way: long hair, pop songs, etc. That was truly in his heart, to be an artist rather than a living shade to Segovia.
BlindEyeJones 10 months ago
@BlindEyeJones I so totally agree with you.
erikolten 9 months ago
I am truly impressed and inspired by Michael especially in this clip. if viewing this from begining to end for the first time ever, as I did this evening, and you are truly passionate in your appreciation for, and connection with, each masterpiece you play, it is clearly seen here that Michael is the epidomy of forgetting how to play by the rules, and tranisitioning into playing by your heart. And therein, you find masterpieces played by a true master.
etatetjan 11 months ago
Michael, you were brave. And you handled the criticism well. Too many students today just want to have their egos stroked. Sometimes (as Martín Prechtel said) you have to sit there like a cat taking a crap and take the criticism). I will agree that Michael is a great guitarist today and this experience that he went through can only contribute to that). And re: the other comments I read: stop the abusive name calling! More than one opinion can exist!!
kenkarsh 11 months ago
Wow, what an impressive individual in Chapdelaine! He was able to get past the barbed wire packaging and receive the content of what Segovia delivered. I think that only an artist of the highest caliber could have done what he did.
dr0berts 11 months ago
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dann3th3manni3 11 months ago
que buen sonido!!!
Y Segovia lo podría a ver dejado interpretar la obra completa. QUIZÁS ÉSTA TRANSCRIPCIÓN ERA MEJOR QUE LA DE ÉL. Jaaja!
TheMarcos772 1 year ago 2
After quite a while of reading negative comments here and there about this famous chewing by Segovia I finally found this video n let me tell you:
If you don't play an instrument or do other art, craft or sport, and you've never been thru something like this it can be hard 2 understand how this could amount 2 anything good, but just take a second listen 2 Michael's words afterwards.
A good 'ego ass-kicking' can give you so many new perspectives!
And that, in the end, is what it's all about!
thehside 1 year ago
Well, we dont see, but can obviously HEAR how important a fingering is. Second: you go to a master and instead of working on all the effort Segovia made on chord voicing (wich includes fingerring!!!), then to simply fuck it all with expressionless playing/fingerring, that would make even a calm person crazy. Many people wanted to be there. Also, my best teachers where the severe ones. End of history. Call it human ?
TubeSpoker 1 year ago
Anyway a great moment of life for the student, for some youtubers .. the one who learn nothing .. we must say thanks to him is Segovia.
April1915 1 year ago 2
what most of comments do not understand that to reach the Segovia"s level, it is a huge summ of efforts, it is a sacerdoce. SO, if a student of Segovia is not prepared to be insutled, no need to ask for a masterclass from such a genius. Even, I know some equivalent as Segovia who would never accept to loose their time to give masterclass to such medium musicians.
April1915 1 year ago 2
Obvious to see why he was so upset. Master class you learn from the master lol. But their was a time Segovia himself transcribed and arranged works of Tarrega/Bach, furthermore he was looked down on by many of Tarrega's pupils according to wiki. What I find impressive is the interview after, Chapdelaine has such a mature intelligent response and nothing but respect for this man. However it is sad to see that although Segovia was a master in his works, he never matured as a human being.
Deadeye242 1 year ago
Those people who criticize Segovia for being harsh and selfish, did you actually hear what Chapdelaine said afterward?
emouch1 1 year ago
Narciso Yepes had technique and tone that SMOKED Segovia. I agree with some of the comments, he was just bitter and old in this. Regardless of his cultural attitude or attitude towards the music, he could have been more constructive and helpful. He just comes off as arrogant and I've lost some respect for him. Yepes was the true master. Did you ever hear of Segovia designing a 10-string classical guitar to compensate for sympathetic vibration loss? No..he just played and bitched
clovis2012 1 year ago
@clovis2012 I could name probably about 50 people before we get to the unsalted Narciso Yepes,all far behind the guitar phenomenon which was Segovia.
Like him or not, Segovia was the person who took the guitar from the hands of gypsies and made it the favorite solo instrument music vehicle for all the intellectual people for ever.
Often big personalities are competitive and/or challenging ,but that is a small price you pay when approach geniuses .
The lesson is, shut up and pay attention.
potrodsas 1 year ago 2
You need to understands that Segovia was taught by classical musicians. Technique is ALL for them...
junotfranco 1 year ago
Segovia just wants students to play exactly what he wants them to. This imho is really bad teaching.
bbunters 1 year ago
Music isn't about fingerings or technique. It's about music.
Rockuskidz 1 year ago
@Rockuskidz My friend... POPULAR MUSIC may not be about fingerings and techniques... CLASSICAL MUSIC on the other hand is ALL about technique and fingering. He is a classical guitarrist that help the common ear, listen to classic music. That is the way a MASTER teaches a master class, he is not there to grade you he is there to teach the rudaments.
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RodolfoGuit 1 year ago 2
please for fingering dispute hear Segovia BWV saraband 996, see his intial fingerring, then watch all the other videos and HEAR how important is the fingering to toning/voicing. Also, spanish people and italians have that kind of rude tone heaheheh sorry but it´s my though
TubeSpoker 1 year ago 6
@TubeSpoker exactly! In classical guitar fingerring is not just a matter how you place your fingers. Every little change changes the tone.
emouch1 1 year ago
@emouch1 true, and final point. Only if you really, really play classical guitar, but ... you may not be THE master, but at least, at least!!!, one should already acknowledge that fingerings DOES MATTER. So... anyone, ANYONE, that says that fingerring is not important, should at least study how the same note sounds in different string ! So simple task to hear and understand.
TubeSpoker 1 year ago
michael played very good.. Segovia is very strict lol he hates changing the fingerings
albenizski 1 year ago
Jajajaja, que mala leche gastaba el colega....
pepon7676 1 year ago
Segovia was not an incredible artist. He was forever jealous of Tarrega. Segovia was not a composer; he was just another guitarrist like so many we have today. He made a lot of noise with his left hand. His left hand technique left much to be desired. He was just a guitarist at a time when there weren't that many good guitarists around. A cranky bitter old man.
inglesdeconversacion 1 year ago
@inglesdeconversacion hahahahaah the best... of course not a composer, but a indisputed great interpreter, even nowadays !
TubeSpoker 1 year ago
Qué fuerte. Definitivamente un obsesivo de la perfección musical e interpretativa en la guitarra. Lo que me dejó perplejo es cuando dijo que el criticó a Tarrega y Pujol!!. Por Dios como va a crticiar a Francisco Tarrega, y sobre todo por los portamentos que tanto estilo le dieron a sus composiciones. Pero bueno sus razones tendrá
Jajnov 1 year ago
wow! looks like they're having a lot of fun!
joeylodes 1 year ago
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What a great guy!
I would have been very unlikely to react with such maturity and wisdom, and I'm 62 Even so, I do think that fingerings are to some degree a personal choice, where taste and who you are as an artist at a particular moment come into play. Are you trying to be Segovia, or to express what you hear as a possibility in the music at a particular time in your life? What you hear will change as you develop, and there is surely no final word, or completely authoritative version.
gergthims 1 year ago
What a great guy!
I would have been very unlikely to react with such maturity and wisdom, and I'm 62 Even so, I do think that fingerings are to some degree a personal choice, where taste and who you are as an artist at a particular moment come into play. Are you trying to be Segovia, or to express what you hear as a possibility in the music at a particular time in your life. What you hear will change as you develop, and there is surely no final word, or completely authoritative version.
gergthims 1 year ago
Stupid Segovia
miashred 1 year ago
can anyone tell me what say segovia at 1.08 min and at 2,37?
guadale 1 year ago
can anyone tell me what say segovia at 1.08 min?
guadale 1 year ago
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can anyone tell me what segovia say at the minute 1,08,please?
guadale 1 year ago
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can anyone tell me what segovia say at the minute 1,08,please?
guadale 1 year ago
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guadale 1 year ago
I think Michael learned much from this critique of a Master. Today, when you hear Micheal play..believe me his guitar sings beautiful, and it comes alive with joy and you feel the love of the music. Micheal is no shmuck today! Micheal got the lesson of his life, and lesson that changed his life for the better. Now, Micheal is the master...and I would love to be a student of his. He said to me "my playing was like a gymnast who had a bad Coach" I take his critique to heart...cause he is right!
pmcmusik 1 year ago 4
@pmcmusik he did not learn anything he was just infected by Segovias prejudice
thesmartestofalltime 1 week ago
Es fácil criticar al maestro Segovia por su comportamiento, pero en ningún momento hay una cámara detrás de Segovia que nos enfoque qué es lo que lee. Puede que haya tachones o notas cambiadas. Le pregunta a Michael por qué ha quitado portamentos y ha cambiado digitaciones y al no saber contestarle, tenía todo a su favor para echarle la bronca.
GuitarMaster2410 1 year ago
Chapdelaine attended the Segovia Master class and used altered fingerings thus its little surprise he got chewed out. Previous Segovia students (Parkening, Bream, Williams ) played their Segovia Master Classes using Segovia fingerings so either Chapedlaine thought he was good enough to choose his own approach or that the Segovia fingerings were inferior. Hardly a choice for a student to make. More experienced and accomplished Segovia students (those mentioned above) didn't try this.
bowiemott 1 year ago
Para entender correctamente a un maestro de este calibre, hay que estar sintonizado con el, hablar su idioma, muy mal que el profesor tenga que hablar ingles, el estudiante es el interesado, debía hablar español, puesto que el maestro piensa en español. sus pensamientos profundos que hacen que interprete así la guitarra están en español.
ripside01 1 year ago
What a radical person he was!!! anyway he is no longer the biggest on Spanish guitar, Paco De Lucia changed everything, Paco is the wind of change.
mrbuleria74 1 year ago
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mrbuleria74 1 year ago
he did say "just decisions i make"..like a smart ass and that ticked him off maybe
entredosaguas16 1 year ago
FUCK Segovia this old senile man !!! he speaks english and spanih , he is sooooo pretentious !!!! I have never seen such an asshole !!!!!!! Dans le four recdi !!!
schnouff29 1 year ago
With all due respect to Michael, at that time, he never really answered Segovia on why he changed the fingering. All masters of any art form can find out a lot about a students thinking/learning by asking question. Sometimes even the master gets to learn about something new from the student answer. Music like martial arts is infinite. I find both people in this vidieo fascinating.
tspcllc 1 year ago
It should be a risk to change Segovia's transcription and still use his transcription. Segovia was an amazing man for his time, there were not many like him who had a high level of technique, only a handful. The caliber of playing now is the highest that it has ever been, and it is no doubt due to the quality of pedagogy that you can find at Universities around the world.
kshri2 1 year ago
In the military you get beat down even harder if you waiver in your opinion and coorect your pitiful explanation on the subject of your deviation from decorum. Good man for stand up for his individual expression. The only thing I can see that is of concern is, Chapdelaine's void of using dynamics. Peaks and valleys of expression are vital, as opposed to linear volume and tone.
Snotra 1 year ago
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Segovia, omg,, such irritating person he was,, I know of persons who stopped playing the guitar because of his temperament,,, " if you don`t play my transcription go to someone else" ,, come on,,
DBJ06 1 year ago
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DBJ06 1 year ago
2:35 taaa bo dee ba doooOoOoOo ha ha
what an ass. You have to admire what Segovia did. But everything with rubato. His way or the highway. blah.
digittydog 1 year ago
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what´s the name of this piece?
chucho07140634 1 year ago
What´s the name of this piece??
chucho07140634 1 year ago
i agree with maste Segivia chapdline is not a guitar player!!
abby161919 1 year ago
Segovia was the man. No one should alter Maestro's fingerings!
keto6789 1 year ago
Segovia was an egomaniac. It was what made him a great performer, but at the same time made him an inept teacher. Look at what he does here; telling the student that what they are doing is wrong, yet not actually telling them WHY it is wrong. He just kicks him off the stage rather then deal with the humiliation of someone making a piece sound great with fingerings other than his. He didn't have an ounce of advice to give? Well then he's incompetent as a teacher than.
guitarmbar 1 year ago
Segovia was indeed a great but his arrogance shines thru here. Segovia knows that chapdelaines playing of mallorca shits all over his and thats y hes pissed off. One minute he tells him to carry on he doesnt mind the next, once he hears the quality of chapdelaine tells him to fuck off lol He couldnt handle being second best
ScouseFolky 1 year ago
I had a similar experience studying with Pierre Bensusan! I can't thank him enough for what he gave me.
michaelwattsguitar 1 year ago
@toffetoff
You wrote " I prefer Chapdelaine over Segovia any day" further down the comments.
I'm sure ,you're unaware how comical this sounds to those people who know.
But believe me you don't need to curry on being more ridiculous .
I think everybody got the message here.
Point taken..just let me know which University you're in,to avoid sending any of my children.
potrodsas 2 years ago
you mean 'carry on' curry is something you eat.
ruttle67 1 year ago
Guys this is not about the character of Segovia. Don't judge greatness of a person by his style or character. Segovia was simply great, and was great as a teacher too and if you listen to what Chapdelaine had to say about the experience he confirms it. The main point some of you are missing is that something essential got transferred to Chapdelaine.
eshragh7 2 years ago
Segovia was a douche... I prefer Chapdelaine over Segovia any day. Yeah, yeah.. I know he made the guitar famous and respected, but he also stopped people like Stravinskij to write for it by insulting them.
He was great and first, but to be honest... I've had several students that play better than he ever did. Just listen to Segovia play Bach. So disrespectful of the music... it sounds romantic, bulky conservative Segovia, not magical Bach.
toffetoff 2 years ago 3
@toffetoff
You got students?
What do you teach them?
Wanking?
potrodsas 2 years ago
Yes.... Then I teach them that no matter how good they play, how great sound they have, how intelligent their fingering is... they are nothing... And they have to leave offerings at a Segovia shrine. If they dare to play anything the way the composer intended I slap them and tell them "No you little idiot! Play it like He did..."
toffetoff 2 years ago 3
@toffetoff
When it comes to classical music for guitar ,wrong fingering is a very important issue you know?
VERY IMPORTANT!
I'm afraid it has to do with the nature of the instrument a lot.
It's not like the wanking or similar activities like jazz, pop rock n' shit..
This is artistic discipline here,and additionally knowledge always comes with it, but at a big price and over time.
The boy speaks the true here.
potrodsas 2 years ago
Yes I know. I have a 6 year university degree in classical guitar and composition. I've played all of Segovias Albeniz transcriptions as well as all Bach lute suites on 11-stringed alto guitar and 6-stinged. I know about fingering, trust me... That is why I am always extra careful when I stumble upon Sevogias fingerings. They are rarely very musical. He's mixing apoyandos and tirandos and cutting off notes as it pleases him, not as it serves the original composition.
toffetoff 2 years ago
@toffetoff This switching from apoyando and tirandos by Segovia, does this in your experiance distroy the music he is playing? Has it no positive contribution to the sound? If Segovia is doing whatever he feels like without thinking about what it will do with the sound...why do people consider him a wonderful musician and a genious? I hardly know the man but what I do not like about his playing is the ease of with he does things.
Za7a7aZ 1 year ago
@toffetoff Perhaps you aren't up to the task of playing the fingerings, which is why you find them to be "unmusical". Students rarely appreciate the thought put into fingering selections thinking it to be arbitrary. One notes that PArkening, Bream, and Williams all employed Segovia fingerings and they didn't whine about them. Lastly please feel free to post your recitals and examples that demonstrate how these fingersings are "unmusical" and convince us that yours are superior....
bowiemott 1 year ago
@bowiemott Also this answer for Toffetoff... Segovia is not overated, he´s Segovia, not a composer, but a GREAT and respected guitar player, why ? Because of something that great masters understand and see as mastery, some cannot see it, sees only arbitrary interpretation as toffetoff. Isn´t that what makes him, ironically, so well reputed in the guitar world ? haha Also, see Segovia playing BWV sarabande 996, see his fingering and then watch all the other videos and HEAR the difference !
TubeSpoker 1 year ago
His greatness as a musician is greatly overrated, especially by himself.
More so... since he is constantly showing his bad attitude and the way he disrespected other artist and composer, it just makes his music more empty.
toffetoff 2 years ago 3
@potrodsas The way Chapdelaine reflects on his experiance with Segovia make me think of how some of the chefs appreciated it to be humiliated by Gordon Ramsay. GR has earned his status and knows what he is doing and evrything has a purpose although it isn't always directly obvious. In the end they are always grateful for the harsh lessons.
Za7a7aZ 1 year ago
what is chapdelaine playing in the beginning?
does somebody know?
WindlBreaker 2 years ago
Mallorca by Isaac Albeniz.
mars7272 2 years ago
Sometimes a teacher, if he is a master of himself and knows what he is doing, he can be rough to the student. Maybe that is the only way for the student to evolve. But this shouldn't happen in a masterclass! I'm sure that Chapdelaine's ego wasn't destroyed that way, but reinforced... waiting to become an authoriry like Segovia and do that to younger people himself... i feel that Segovia acted through his ego, not through his soul.
9419872008 2 years ago
que viejito tan fastidioso y arrogante....estaba cagado de envidia contra Barrios y Villalobos...
nosequenickponer1 2 years ago 3
segovia had some issues, he was jealous of julian bream (said he plays spanish guitar with a english accent or something)
But he is old school. you do it his way or the hi way. Apparently Segovia's style worked for him. Current American soft teaching isn't at work here.
School of hard knocks . . . sometimes this works w/ some people and it doesn't with others. But if you have a good teacher and he's / she's rough, the tough may learn something. . .
baelsharon 2 years ago
Get a life!
J.Bream was a retard and his playing just average.
Not to mention the laughable p.No4 of V.Lobos
Segovia ,and everybody else for that mater ,have seen 100s of guitarists better than Bream.
BTW.There is a video on the YT with Bream master class, and he is obvious sarcastic with a student.
In England sarcasm is something good maybe,barbaric as you are,but not in the rest of the world.
At least Segovia speaks his mind your idiot.
potrodsas 2 years ago
@baelsharon segovia was breams teacher and likeed him very much he was not jealous of him, sow dont write a lote of trash please!,
abby161919 1 year ago
As a professional educator I would be fired if I used Segovia's humiliation tactics. He is obviously intimidated by Chapdelaine's potential and wants to establish who the "Maestro" is. Chapdelaine handles the abuse well. This video shows what a poor teacher Segovia was. You can critique and instruct without being mean spirited about it. I only hope someone put him in his place before he croaked. What a small, arrogant man.
brockwilliam 2 years ago
People like Segovia made the guitar what it is today.
And you are stupid.
Fucking afuera!
potrodsas 2 years ago
A stupid person resorts to profanity when they have nothing intelligent to say. I never said anything about Segovia's contribution to the guitar, only his shortcomings as a teacher. John Williams has said as much, but I'm sure you're a much better player and know more than John Williams.
brockwilliam 2 years ago 3
you are right but for one thing... Segovia was not small it was a fat pig.
LutenistDeMari 2 years ago
he is the maestro. he singlehandedly brought solo classical guitar music back into light in the 20th century. Surely he is being harsh, but reducing him to an small arrogant man is similarly harsh.....i smell some jealousy of the maestro
TheArsenalfc101 2 years ago
I had a master class with Mr. Chapdelaine and got my teenager monster ego blown out of the water in a similar fashion. This is funny at poor Mr. C's expense. I think the issue is musicality. You have to feel the music, eat drink and breathe the music. Musicality is such a fleeting thing on the guitar and can be easily shaken and lost. I think in the end, it taught him a lesson because the guy is a genius now.
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clumsystrummer 2 years ago
Ha ragione!
artistikidea 2 years ago
For all those who question Segovia, listen to what Chapdelaine says about Segovia himself. He was a man who knew the composer and shared in this creation.Chapdelaine mistake was not in playing, but rather thinking he could impress Segovia.He gave his life to preserving whatever tradition was left, and we have very little left of what he gave us.
flmesofarmdgdn 2 years ago
Segovia didn't know Albeniz.. He didn't try to preserve a tradition, he invented one.
CardiffClassicGuitar 2 years ago
@CardiffClassicGuitar he know him very good, albenisz dedicated granada to him
abby161919 1 year ago
Williams Ken. also made the similiar mistake.
He also wanted to press the master by his creativeness.
Segovia only wants to mode others, not to inspire or encourage them to be themselves.
But Segovia's tonality and musicality are very good
VictorDanDan 2 years ago
segovia doesn't seem very helpful in the "masterclass" videos i've seen so far lol. though chapdelaine seems to have gotten a lot out of it...
sircloud7 2 years ago
What happened here was that Chapdelaine was using Segovia's edition of the piece he played. However Segovia noticed that Chapdelaine was performing different fingerings, markings etc.
In turn Segovia got offended and rushed him off stage.
mars7272 2 years ago
This young man played very well.
his sound was very beautiful and if he lacked depth of age or experience.
that's why we commit our life to this instrument.
to learn the lessons of life and voice it in our music.
I still love the conversation I had with Angel Romero who got in his face
in his earlier life( a young monster player) and pissed Segovia off, but in the end Segovia held Angels hands and said,what a gift god gave us in these hands.
James Hunley
guitar4mysoul44 2 years ago
wow, love how he said he didn't mind and then he gets pissed
thejugglenaut91 2 years ago
It's a little lost in translation. In Spanish he would say "hace lo que quieras" which is meant do be sarcastic. Translated properly it would be along the lines of "Do whatever the fuck you want" which is indicative of him starting to get really pissed.
TheNexus 2 years ago
I guess one of your one of the dopest guitarists ever to step foot on the face of the earth you can do what segovia did in this vid.
tman916x 2 years ago
He was doing that to all Americans,and for a good reason.
Now he's dead ,they are left free to play guitars in anyway and any fingering they want the bastards.
potrodsas 2 years ago
jajajaja en el min 1:45 Chapdelaine ya está hasta las narices de Segovia jajajaj le está tocando los webs a base de bien ajjajaja (touching eggs) xD y ahora es cuando llega su clásica critica al portamento, y de paso a Tárrega y a todos. Dicen que Beethoven tenía también muy mal carácter.
ratpackillo 2 years ago
The fingering wasn't necessarily wrong, it was just different to Segovias. It probably achieved the same result. I have fairly small hands, so sometimes I have to change to play some parts. Anyway what did Segovia want? A clone of himself. Its precisely the thing that musicians should not be. All great musicians were individualistic. Thats what makes it fascinating --- maybe Segovias fingering was wrong!
batter1231 2 years ago 3
A 90 yeo Maestro Segovia pissed off with some student it's not news.
The news is that the boy took it well and, to his credit ,he got the message and he's brave enough to publicly admit it.
Classical music on guitar is very hard to be achieved .
Some classical music connoisseurs,even to this day, don't think guitar it's qualified for classical music at all..
Additionally if you using wrong fingerings 99% of the classical guitar pieces are destroyed further.
Segovia knew that well.
potrodsas 2 years ago
no, that's ridiculous.
thejugglenaut91 2 years ago
What an arrogant pig of an arsehole! Segovia is gone down in my estimation . I'll stick to Guy Van Duser Forever!
batter1231 2 years ago
Este tio como guitarrista era indiscutiblemente bueno pero como porofesor era horrible y en esta masterclass chochea y no deja tocar al alumno diciendole que siga su transcripción, que tio más estupido.
Ayers76 2 years ago 3
disculpen mi ignorancia, no entiendo el ingles. Agradeceria a alguien que me explicara los dialogos que se desarrollan en el video. Muchas gracias
hemc88 2 years ago
Se enoja porque no respetó sus digitaciones(que jamás podrían ser las definitivas!!..),luego hace un sonido como de "perro rabioso",le destruye su fraseo,critica a Tárrega y Pujol !!?por lo mismo,le dice que toque otra versión si va a "cambiar cosas"..y luego lo echa de la forma más brutal:Fuera!...
PIOTILO 2 years ago 2
gracias, intuia algo por el estilo. Cuando comence a estudiar guitarra clasica y escuche de segovia, lo idolatrre sin siquiera conocerlos. Ahora, despues de haber investigado su vida, su obra me doy cuenta que era un pesimo ser humano. No fue un artistica completo. En lo personal considero a A. barrios superior a segovia. saludos
hemc88 2 years ago 2
Miguel Llobet fue absolutamente superior a Segovia en todos los aspectos,y que decir del gran Barrios Mangoré...un genio infinitamente superior...qué queda de Segovia? ego,ego,ego....
Cayimoran 2 years ago 2
A good teacher should help a student understand the music....should tell them why one particular way of playing is better.........not to bash them and tell them to leave!! segovia was an incredible player but not a good teacher....
blackhole142 2 years ago 23
@blackhole142
Actually I heard that some of the people Segovia bashed became friends of his and studied under him. I think it was right Segovia to be so stern. He was trying to make the guitar looked upon better instead of some instrument that is not worth composing for. He couldn't just talk to the people softly or they won't take him seriously. He's kinda like a boot camp instructor.
shadowknight132 1 year ago
LOL! Segovia thru him out! no patience for mediocrity.
Manolian 2 years ago
What a stupid man Segovia was!! What a narrow view What an arrogant man.I don´t believe what I´ve seen!!! Stupid spanish guitarrist!! What a less educated man!!!beside what a lack of ear speaking english,what an insult to the UK!!
PIOTILO 2 years ago
kinda makes me laugh in the first place when Segovia almost accused him of changing the fingerings
he would have never imagined that nowadays its all about fingerings on guitar
yangmagic0703 2 years ago 8
I think Segovia forgot more about fingerings than many guitarists today will ever know. His fingerings were perfect for his artistic ideas
JuergenSchenk 2 years ago
chapeau for chapdelaine, such sweet tones he produced, what remains after seeing the poor Segovia is deep respect for Chapdelaine who obviously loves music deep in his soul.
itsmeherrie 2 years ago 3
yep mate, great, big sound and sweet vibratos...
ArthurGanate 2 years ago
Was this supposed to teach something to the poor fella? What a waste of time lol...never mind, chapdelaine was out of his mind making excuses for this lame "masterclass"....thankfully albeniz' music doesn't depend on segovia's idiotic fingerings.
guitarzoo666 2 years ago
I got the same impression too. He was making excuses for him. Had it been me, I would have been pissed that I spent all that money on a masterclass only to be told to leave because I played a passage in a different position.
Neelo5000 2 years ago
Well, Segovia was teaching His way.
Everyone is entitled to their interpretation. If you want to play like Segovia, then play his fingerings...if not, then it's your own interpretation.
Segovia chose his way, which was great I'm sure, but not necessarily the "Correct" way. There was no correct way.
MC is a great player who is way capable of choosing his own fingerings to sound how he wants it to sound
silkysausage 2 years ago 4
I'm working on a Prelude (no. 1) and as I was writing out the music and trying to figure out the best fingerings, I was getting frustrated and needed some direction. Listening to Chapdelaine here, I realize what I need is a good teacher. The music I want to play is already written and a technique and approach has been worked out. I just have to put my experience and emotion behind it all to breathe my own life into it. Good video.
levisque67 2 years ago
This is a bad video of Segovia but, I give him the BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. You gotta realize that Segovia was a VERY old man here, and he was probably hurting inside physically (didn't he die a year later?). Unfortunately, this unlucky guy happened to be with him on his "bad day". This students should have gotten his teachings/criticisms during his younger years, and I bet the experience would be better, if not, wonderful!
johngregorio 2 years ago
segovia was a shark who fed off the blood of tarrega and was an antisemite
ssguitaro69 2 years ago
It is a tremendous lesson.
And a gift to be told the truth.
Sometimes painful. But if the lesson is remembered. And one takes his art seriously and does not pretend,
Then Segovia's anger was a priceless gift.
But often the young think they know everything. they don't listen or respect their elders, They just want to use the masters name without an understanding of his values, and the tremendous responsibility to hold up the art of music,
Boldstrummer 2 years ago
Segovia me a desepcionado . . . no es un maestro es solo un viejo arrogante y pendejo.
lzaymond01 2 years ago 3
Boy, sure does shine a new light on Segovia for me. Segovia played beautifully, but he's one hell of an arrogant douchebag.
LikuX 2 years ago 8
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This is an amazing video. What a lesson. Profound.This is a "Masterclass" . Segovia is the teacher here. "arrogant douchebag" ???? you display some serious ignorance. This is not a concert This student
guitarist is there to learn from the "merciless" master.
Segovia knows the ropes here. He has climbed the mountain. You want to be "good. "Segovia knows what it takes. Its like climbing mount Everest. A HUGE effort. To get to that place. It was a test.
merstink 2 years ago
Segovia becomes furious that Chapdelaine didn't use the fingerings Segovia notated, the piece isn't complicated enough to warrant any kind of strict fingering. Segovia gets upset it's not his way. He's doesn't let Chapdelaine finish the piece because the fingerings where changed, give me a fucking break.
Just because Segovia was proficient at something doesn't mean he should be such a cunt about it. He wanted everyone to play pieces exactly like him, that's not what music is about.
LikuX 2 years ago 6
Yikes!You really don't have any clue as to what actually went on in this Masterclass.
And you keep reducing Segovia's didactic methodology to your very inexperienced. immature,very shortsighted, self-centric foul mouthed POV.
merstink 2 years ago
And you're holier-than-thou, care to compare dicks even further? Heaven forbid someone has a different opinion than you, you go pretty hand-in-hand with Segovia. Being that I'm so "inexperienced," what are your prerequisites to analyze such masterclass, champ?
LikuX 2 years ago 5
your "opinion" is just sooooooo uneducated, soooooo
inexerpienced, sooooo immature, sooooo unsophisticdated, Talk is cheap - Reality is expensive. No more advice for you.
You mr. likux are on your own. Time for you to take some steps to grow into reality......if your at all interested in reality that is...
merstink 2 years ago
Thanks for the new-aged psychedelic bullshit; maybe you should respond with some weight behind your comments. Rather than hide behind these vague statements of superiority, just get to the facts. Or are you too "sophisticdated" for that?
Care to even answer my initial question?
LikuX 2 years ago 6
I'm not a fan of this kind of teaching.... stopping a player becasue of he hasn't used his 'fingering' is just silly...
tomophirwedge 2 years ago 5
Wow. Intense
saddamdontsurf 2 years ago
"Boy Leeeshun...." awesome. even if it is mean.
ravner1976 2 years ago
What is portamento
doublealufwaffe 2 years ago
something Segovia didn't care for.
ravner1976 2 years ago
Segovia's main merit was that he was one of the first. That is no small feat, I admit.
But too fast, too slow... Classical shackles.
Music is about what YOU think is about.
tubulous 2 years ago 3
Chapdelaine just had to find himself and he did big time.
Now he plays acoustic guitar, and makes his own improvisations and is absolutely great! One of the best accoustic guitar players today.
Ishayau 3 years ago
He still plays classical too. His Mexico album was fantastic. Lots of Ponce.
philomelodia 2 years ago 2
segovia is being such a dick here
bonfirejovi 3 years ago
No, he is just the best.PERIOD. He knows exactly what he is talking about. if he didnt chapdelaine wouldn't be listening to him
PhiyukYu 3 years ago
If that's so: kneel for him and worship him.
RoelGeys 2 years ago
I understand chapdelaine, a great imrpoviser evolves! Go chapdelaine!
MirageBistro 3 years ago
It was Albeniz himself who said he preferred the guitar transcriptions of his music to the piano originals. Why? Because Spanish music is full of soul, and the melody has to be 'sung', not hammered as in a piano (especially in a piece played at this tempo). Portamento is so important!
Segovia knew the voice of Spain is in the guitar, not the piano. Michael was honest enough to admit he had to be "broken down" in order to be able to see the light.
60moo 3 years ago 5
dude why are you all bashing segovia. He was an immensly good player and if it wasnt for his teaching, the greats we know today wouldn't be nearly as good because he was such a prolific teacher and inspiration to beginners. Plus, he does play this rather dry. ha listen to breams version and you will see what i mean.
teaching is about your interpretation of the tools given to you. Even the teacher that you've been with for years doesn't tell you how you must play, but rather how it sounds better
thejugglenaut91 3 years ago
Michael Chapdelaine's patronizing suck-up remarks about Andres Segovia were hard to watch. His choice of words, body language, and lack of sincerity were dripping with contempt.
Entropy56 3 years ago 2
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What segovia did is not justifiable in any way, hes a crotchety old piece of shit.<