3 Electric Car Co. Workers Dead in Plane Crash

[CFITOMAHAWK2]

C 310's can climb on one engine with 3 pass. only if pilot is sharp.

[nikthepilot]

wtf is a cessna 310? lol

[MrJtizzlef]

I remeber there was a police shootout that day too. anyone hear about that. a whale ate a chick. dude went crazy on IRS. SOmeone musta lost Alot of Money. I was in the Psyche ward for Bapping a honda. Alls I remeber was saying shit about LOGIC MEXICANS MONEY AND ||||||||||||||| | | | | WALL||||| | WALLL|||| BITCHES

[Gilberto94303]

i was around the block

[angstotheclown]

Delorean foolishy put his plant in northern ireland when britain offered him incentives. They then seized his stamping molds for the cars when they and the US buried him in delays, penalties and taxes. The molds were dumped into the ocean, into the OCEAN. Nobody was allowed to buy the company. He stupidly tried to raise capital by buying coke from the FBI. No banks would help him. The only car to ever make a profit from day one and they killed it. Now they just kill you. We are doomed.

[angstotheclown]

Tesla was introducing a mass produced electric car that would eliminate infernal combustion engine cars and crash the oil monopoly and the jew banking system that supports it. These men weren't mere employees. They ran the company. This is a typical CIA hit. Never fly in a private plane unless you sleep in the damn thing 24/7. Anyone who has ever started a car company especially that threatens the power structure of oil and greed gets hit. They set up Delorean. The only car to profit at startup.

[WebDevFTW]

One of the men on the plane, Brian Finn, was my science teacher's brother. He had to take a week off to go to California. It was a real tragedy when it happened.

[Superman83271]

All you people talking about watching Loose Change should do a youtube search on "National Security Alert." Those are some hard facts that would stand up in any court. It's put together really well. Yeah, with this plane crash, the fact it crashed shortly after takeoff kind of points to the possibility of sabotage. I wouldn't be a bit surprised.

[crystalidx]

We shouldn't be burning coal and gasoline by now.

[TaroWalthr]

I had no idea that the people in the plane were employees of Tesla. I was driving through palo alto that day and the power was out EVERYWHERE, dam

[EMPIRE0FLIES]

Sounds like they were getting close to free energy maybe?

[MrSueVeneer]

Why can't we get Bon Jovi on a plane like that, rip SRV!

[lavakava]

what does bon jovi have to do with this? you want them to die?

[KhmerSerey1]

Business deal gone bad in the plane....

[1stTrillionaire]

Mmmmm I smell something burning...

[mp4321X]

Would the operating costs increase for the massive shipping vessels currently running off bunker fuel, a byproduct of the world's massive petroleum habit? Because I'm thinking if the US shifted to all electric cars and without people buying gasoline (in effect subsidizing their own job outsourcing) the cheap and very dirty fuel byproduct wouldn't be available for use to cheaply ship to here foreign goods.

[calvinkleinmba]

You know what else could've been a factor in the crash? The US Gov't just invested in GM and the new Tesla S all electric would kill GM.

[boxa888]

yea sabotage. this has happened so many times already, in like 2004 there was also a man making a new type of lithium battery and guess what he died in a plane crash, its sad, it destroys the advancement of humanity when these people are taken out. these enginners were working on the main parts of the tesla car, thats why its even more strange. people just research this, there was even groups of people assasinated in the 70s after going to a free energy convention. $40000 sounds good to me: BUY

[lavakava]

@boxa888

this was not sabotage...this is a classic example of get-there-itis. they shouldn't have taken off in dense fog...but they didn't want to be late for a corporate deal, that's what I heard.

[poosaypirate]

@boxa888 can you say more about this group assassination in the seventies please? what country and how ?

thank you

[MrLivePositive8]

@boxa888

Thanks for sharing this info. I am more enlightened about the evil in this world now.

[SharkDude1]

The great thing about AP news is, they just report the news, Unlike the Network Media, who ALWAYS try and make a simple plane crash story into a "Was it a Terriost attack?" Damn Network Medais sucks! Why do you people even watch that crap anymore?

Planes crash, Cars Crash, Busses Crash. Welcome to Reality.

[milliradian]

@SharkDude1 The 'other' crash was a terrorist attack, but the guy wasn't trying to terrorize you or me... he was letting the government know he'd had enough. ps if you really wanna know watch The Century Of Self, listen to everyone and read everything but believe nothing unless you prove it in your own research.

[trloyalist]

Anyone who thinks anything fishy is going on here needs their head examined. This unfortunate accident is a result of something wrong with the plane, coupled with the challenges of staying in the power curve during takeoff. There is no conspiracy.

[x4167]

@trloyalist maybe you need your head examined,being that you were not there,you are in no position to say what really happened.

[trloyalist]

x4167, I was merely speaking from experience as a pilot. There are a limited number of things that can go wrong on takeoff, and knowing whether you're in IMC/VMC, the type and category of plane, and the experience of the pilot, you can eliminate a lot. No, I wasn't in the cockpit with Doug that day. But I promise you that the conspiracy kooks in this thread were not either, and I doubt any of them are pilots who know what they're talking about.

[nomosocialists]

Many larger and more longer duration companies have policies banning key employees on the same airplane. I hope this doesn't destroy the company!

[screenwriterOscar]

Did you know....Tesla employees took suicide mission to kill themselves. Only few millionaires will drive Tesla motors.

Tesla produce another luxury car for rich. Only few of them will drive Tesla. I bet Google founders would drive em.

LOL.... Waste of tax dollars.

[dlucas90]

Silly engineverbeenears, planes aren't electric, you have to keep gas in them!

[OBAMASTINIAN]

Must have been a coal plant tower.

[DuelOfficialChannel]

hahah the fire men have stupid hats there!

[spinav]

lmao good call

[khamvongsa09]

I have the strongest feeling that this wasn't an accident... 3 Tesla employees will slow down production a little bit but it will go on.. Well, they went heaven at lease knowing Tesla Motors are doing well..

[Herebebears]

How is killing 3 Tesla people by getting a plane to hit a tower in dense fog  going to stop production of the Tesla automobiles? If the car makers were really involved, they'd just buy out the company and either run with it or bury it. Get real.

[PaulRevere77381]

They should have took a car.

[momenabdulla]

May their Lord, Rat-Shit (Rothschild), bring them peace.

[usergently]

Amen!

[JamesMorlan]

Oh, great - just what we need. Another conspiracy theorist magnet. Let's wait until all the facts are in, shall we? All the arm chair warriors just can't WAIT to jump to conclusions, especially when there appears to be the potential for there to be some kind of motive behind the incident. They fire up the rumor mill and turn it into a veritable religion, thinking that because it COULD be, it MUST be. C'mon, people - only fools rush in...

[catharsis989]

@JamesMorlan: Couldn't have said it better myself.

[mbleek2001]

@JamesMorlan. looooooooool. i love your comment. You are right only fools rush in, but conspiracy theorists have seen enough cover ups and heard enough lies, so whenever anythings like this happens their suspicions shoots up.

[poosaypirate]

@mbleek2001 ITS NOT A THEORY WHEN THERE IS FACT INVOLVED DIPSHIT DONT YOU HAVE A TEA PARTY TO GO TO BTW???

[mbleek2001]

@poosaypirate. "dipshit"? any one who uses such run down internet slang such as "epic fail" or 'FTW" deserves no intelligent rebuttal. grow up and stop using profanity.

[poosaypirate]

@mbleek2001 NOBODY used either of those reading comprehension kiddo

and by the way your rebuttal was no more precious

* EPIC FAIL*

HONK! HONK!

[mbleek2001]

@poosaypirate. Ok seriously i am having a hard time understanding your point either way. make your argument clear, because I don't know what you are for or against.

[poosaypirate]

@mbleek2001 just watch Loose Change

and listen to what the little man says dont just look at the pictures either

focus act like an adult and be serious

[mbleek2001]

@poosaypirate hahahahaha.  c'mon man me and you are on the same side. i seen loose change a while ago and enjoyed it. thnx. sorry for the attacks...lets work together and spread the truth. peace my brother.

[suppersoopermario]

sadly this is the way of life we most live no matter how hard we try, we wont even be able to reach a utopia, just like a dream we someday might get close to it but never quite reach it

[metalicalol]

Loooool! 100% setup to kill them. 100% !!

[MrSueVeneer]

why cant we get Bon jovi on a plane like that?

[peterlows]

I have a strong feeling this was no accident...

[metalicalol]

You said it! Only fools believe it.

[strim75068]

i'm feeling that too.

[Gilberto94303]

@peterlows it was foggy

[111gate]

He would have maneuvered around the tower,I doubt he would fly with a 100 ft ceiling ,and a wing fell into a house which means it was ejected from the plane above the street. I don't know who was in the plane but a 310 isn't cheap so I'm sure it wasn't the receptionist. If you apply the same common logic to this senerio that you would at a trial,you would probably come to the consensus that some shenanigans were at hand!

[trloyalist]

Your comments make no sense whatsoever. The flight IFR, wings cannot be ejected, and the location of the crash was not in the standard IFR departure path, which is to turn to 060 after takeoff from runway 31 out of KPAO. Though the crash investigation isn't complete, the location of the wreckage and the altitude of the plane that the time it struck the tower are consistent with a left engine out, and the fallout from asymmetrical thrust.

[lavakava]

@trloyalist, i am not a real pilot just a flight sim pilot and i agree with you about assymetrical thrust...i have tried to simulate engine failures on twin engine, and it is indeed very difficult to get out of a single-engine power failure close to the ground. dead foot-dead pedal (i.e. apply opposite rudder, feathering the dead engine, etc requires time for the plane to react)...FAA clowns still haven't made the automatic control system( patented) for multi-engines mandatory. FAA is a failure

[pissedtaxpayer]

tesla motors is named after Nicola tesla everyone should watch the documentary on him, the fact that were all here on our computers can indirectly be attributed to things he invented such as AC electricity, the radio, wireless communications, wireless electricity, etc.

[mreloid]

so what

[pissedtaxpayer]

greedy corporations and corrupt governments have no problems killing people who threaten their business

[mbleek2001]

@pissedtaxpayer.

Its been proven through out history what you are saying. Mostly it happened to small indigenous communities half way around the world who are defenseless and voiceless. We didn't stop it because mostly ignorance and didn't effect us anyway. Now its hitting close to home and we citizens of the west will pay for what we have let our governments do to those poor people all around the world for long time.

[pissedtaxpayer]

@mbleek2001 I'm native Hawaiian so if anybody has a good perspective I do, I don't think it's fair that any people should have to pay for the sins of their government, that's unjust and I wouldn't say that we let our government do evil things to natives (including native Hawaiians) there's no way to stop them, we can expose their crimes but what else. It's all about the dollar and greed. I'm not trying to be a pessimist but what can we do to stop the government from committing evil acts?

[mbleek2001]

Well I was born in Africa, my dad experienced colonialism, so I also have a good perspective. My point was citizens of western countries

have done nothing on their part(most of them) to stop the evils their govt. was doing to so many around the world. Simply because it didn't

effect their comfortable life's directly. Since it happened in their watch and did nothing now their govt. is bold enough to slaughter its own

citizens. We can do a whole lot, but are we willing to risk everything.

[metalicalol]

So true lad.

[pissedtaxpayer]

@metalicalol unfortunately yes and this is how it has been since however long human governments have been in existence and I just don't see evil governments/corporations all of a sudden saying let's now be good and just, even before the Europeans came to Hawaii in 1778, the kings and rulers of Hawaii treated the common people very unjustly and then they Hawaiian kings were overthrown by another unjust government so it's not just the United States, this is happening in Africa, China everywhere.

[mbleek2001]

Well I don't see you bringing a solution but rather pointing fingers and saying its business as usual. Corrupt governments or kings love their subjects to have your kind of attitude, doing nothing and feeling hopeless. You forget that all powers lies in the hands of the people.

[pissedtaxpayer]

Do u have a solution? let's hear your plan to change BAU and get rid of corrupt governments or r u just pointing fingers at me? and i want to hear everything you've done so far to try and stop this corruption.

[mbleek2001]

I am sensing you are demanding me to you give answers with a hint of threat. You just proven my point about feeling hopeless by suggesting there is no solution, with your BAU attitude. One thing I am working on right now is if you haven't noticed is trying to change your attitude. As Gandhis famously said "be the change you want to see" so i suggest you change ur attitude 1st. From there change ur family then community, then we as a nation will develop new solutions to change the world.

[pissedtaxpayer]

@mbleek2001, u sir are NOT sensing correctly, u do not understand what i wrote, where in the world are u coming up with threat? did i ever threaten u? NO I DIDN'T so why is your mind perceving something not there. Again i don't think u should talk since u don't fully understand english, WHERE did i suggest there is no solution? NO WHERE, so don't start saying untrue things and accusing people falsely that's WRONG. Instead of trying to change my attitude look at yourself and what you're doing

[mbleek2001]

@pissedtaxpayer "WHERE did i suggest there is no solution? NO WHERE"

ok then i will have to quote your rants "there's no way to stop them". You are hopelessly suggesting no solution.

[poosaypirate]

@mbleek2001 praise be to GOD!!! Ive been saying this on the INTERNET for YEARS to the " you are all sheeple" people on here and elsewhere, and ironically i say the same Gandi Quote i usually add " Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country"

YOU ARE THE CHANGE THE POWER IS IN YOUR HANDS

THIS IS YOUR JOB

[boxa888]

@poosaypirate it was an old free energy site, this was when i was a little kid, i found an article about it, i think it was out west, possibly california, it was a convention. strangely they were all killed, most were hit and run car accidents. this was years ago, its just part of my memory now, this is the same with roswell. a radio host telling the people the truth was taken out by a hit and run car, while he was walking on the street! never found the drivers. i reallly cant remember now.

[poosaypirate]

@boxa888  ok so aground what year then please?

seventies?

[lavakava]

@pissedtaxpayer

this is clearly pilot error and the deadly corporate problem of 'get-there-itis;.

these employees clearly left in foggy weather and crashed into a utility pole.

[poosaypirate]

@lavakava denial is not a river in Egypt my friend

did you know my grandmother is Salvador Dali and i keep her in a cage in the basement and i feed her rats and snakes on the seventh hour of the seventh day on the seventh year ? its true, she is then powered to harness earth energy and controls the world with her Uterus ,

" it was just a crash" hahahaha

[MrLivePositive8]

@pissedtaxpayer

This is exactly what I thought when I first heard of this. Seriously right away I thought it was 'foul play'.

[LibsMakeGr8Sandbags]

This is amazing. What are the odds?

Just like the 9/11 lady that died in the Buffalo crash last year.

[dlab95]

penis!!!!!!

[2xtream]

The mega corporations that would be directly effected by a car that they are unable to offer or unwilling to offer is who to look too as responsible. I personally would look to them for a hand in this. This kind of thing just don't happen by accident although that is what it is meant to look like! C'mon people you got to think outside the corp media spin. This was no accident IMO!!! Tesla was just Releasing there new Car of the Future. One that does NOT RUN ON FOSSIL FUEL!! Google Tesla Motors!

[sfav8r2]

2xtream..You say "This kind of thing just don't happen by accident"...Ummm, maybe you should google "airplane accident" you may be fascinated to learn it does in fact happen by accident...quite often. Opinion is fine. Thinking "what if" is fine, but part of the thinking should also be "what are the facts?" Not just what COULD have happened, but what DID happen.

[2xtream]

@sfav8r2: Yeah they got you brainwashed. It's no problem those of us awake see the crime. You can stay asleep.

[Jellybeawesome]

who died cuz i know someone who works there

[jasongiddensviper478]

Load your guns NOW!

Ps. R.I.P.

[sfav8r2]

Why is it whenever there is a news story like this, people immediately broadcast their view which only demonstrates their complete ignorance of the situation? "They were taken out", "I bet the American Car Companies and gas companies had a hand in it." Really? What evidence is there? None. The aircraft departed into a 2,000 foot layer of fog, drifted left of course and struck a tower. How exactly would a company arrange that? FYI Tesla was far from hurting their profits. C'mon people. Think.

[phnx4life]

Who are you to say what really happened and what the mainstream media states? You better start thinking. The electric cars that Tesla is developing are amazing and could easily replace the modern day combustion-engine vehicles. That is a DIRECT threat to the oil and gas-driven vehicles run by the most greedy and ruthless companies on earth.accident?-how convenient.

[REDEMPTIONthreadz]

@phnx4life .... you took the words right out of my mouth... AGREED

[cecilbdml]

Didn't take 'em out of MY mouth. A $100K+ car is not going to get ANYONE out of a $35K SUV, nor is the $5K hi-volt home charging system.

Better try again folks. This plane hit POWER LINES used in an already overstrained electric grid. The fact is, in order to support this kind of thing, there will have to be AT LEAST twice as many of those lines all over the place. How environmentally friendly is THAT?

[nuclearteaparty]

Well 100K+ car certainly has little appeal to mass market consumers. But the R&D done to produce an electric car (funded by the 100K+ purchase by the way) will eventually yield a cheaper car as the scale of production (currently VERY small) increases. In addition, newer technologies will displace the technologies that are currently used in the exotic electric auto market, also causing the price of production of these older technologies to drop. Simple principles of R&D and economics.

[nuclearteaparty]

cecilbdml, if i may ask, how environmentally friendly are the gas stations that leak toxic chemicals into our ground and stormwater, and also contribute to air pollution?

All else equal, an electric motor can yield 99%+ of energy into kinetic, versus 15% for an internal combustion engine. Somehow, I'm convinced that building more power lines might be better for the environment than say, air and water pollution.

[sfav8r2]

Pnx4life... I am someone who has the ability to exercise in critical thinking. I am a pilot and I have flown out of that airport many times. I also live near this location & know the terrain well. The question you should ask yourself is what objective data is there to indicate these people were murdered? Give me one FACT that shows this is anything but an accident. NOTICE PLEASE I didn't say it wasn't murder, pay close attention here. I'm saying there are no FACTS at this point to say it was.

[2xtream]

There is an airport in Palo Alto of which this plane either took off from or landing in... But either way. This story will in a short time unveil some strange anomalies is my guess... Tesla Motors were on the cutting edge of auto technology and ready to make public there car of the future! Strange? My opinion, there were taken out!

[ahhyo2006]

I agree with you 100%. I'm glad to see/hear that their are some educated people on YouTube.

[cecilbdml]

Where? The ones spouting off about oil companies killing a cult company's employees, or the one about how everyone's suddenly wanting to buy a brand new car (with money they don't have) because it's electric?

I think your definition of educated is a bit out of touch with the REAL definition. I think the word you're looking for is LEFTIST.

[trloyalist]

2xtream, the fact that you don't know whether the airplane was taking off or landing from/at KPAO demonstrates that you know absolutely nothing about aviation. From the location of the wreckage it is absolutely clear what direction the plane was heading when something went wrong: the initial heading was 310, and a few seconds later something happened that prevented the pilot from turning to the standard IFR (060) departure heading. You should stop spouting nonsense while you're able.

[2xtream]

@trloylist: Who said anything about flying lamebrain I said this will probably in short time prove not to an accident... I don't care weather or not the pilot was landing, taking off or playing videos games... Did you enter this conversation in the attempt to try and prove you know that area and will attempt to say you know something about flying? You need to go back to bed kid things like this are over your head.

[trloyalist]

2xtream, actually yes I know something about flying because I'm a pilot, based out of KSQL. I fly into KPAO all the time, I'm intimately familiar with the approach and departure procedures for KPAO airfield, and I knew the pilot who was flying the 310. The loss of his life is tragic. He was a very experienced pilot and had ratings for SEL, SES, and rotorcraft, and over 2000 hours. He knew what he was doing, was a good man, and he will be missed. I stand by my earlier comments.

[ahhyo2006]

I bet the American car companies and or American Gasoline Co. had a hand on this. Tesla: Electric Car Co. Kind of like what they did to John DeLorean back in the days. The best way to kill off your competition is to watch every move they make.

[jurvetson]

@ahhyo2006 please... I hope you don't believe that

[screenwriterOscar]

It's true... They start putting spywares on computers. Bush signed legal evadropping which allows companies steal people's ideas and market their inventions big.

this is extremely sad. America is heading great depression and bankruptcy.

[feymuz]

@ahhyo2006 lol

[HEWESREDFISHER16]

Skymaster 310 has 2 motors, one in front & one in Rear of aircraft. never herd of one crashing due to engine trouble.

[batflies]

Sounds fishy!

[sooperz95]

This was not a skymaster crash (skymasters are 336 or 337). Nor is there any report of engine failure. regardless, until the NTSB report is out, any discussion of what went wrong is speculation, but dense fog was noted at the time of the accident. the cessna 310 is a low wing craft, with engine placement at each wing similar to pipers (like the seneca).

[trloyalist]

Hewesredfisher16, you're wrong. The Cessna 310 is a twin engine plane with a standard configuration: one prop on the left, one on the right. Is anyone really surprised that *you* have never heard of one crashing due to engine trouble? You also apparently have never been in a twin-engine plane. when one goes out, the asymmetrical thrust makes staying ahead of the power curve extremely difficult upon takeoff or during landing. This is just flying 101. Don't take my word for it: look it up.