BBC Melodyne

[TheKingMartin25]

A funny thing is, that u can download "FL Studio Demo" free and it can do the same :D

[Esbanez]

The guy at the end looks like my old college teacher Ramon Goose O_O

[jontynash]

tayfun is a real dream boat

[standubz]

record company called what? - fat fucks? lmao!!

[Andybaby]

In the old days, they used to have what we used to call 'singers'.

[itshouldbelikethis]

@Andybaby  well thats a bit overdramatic dont you think:P? create good music. and love it.

[guilvinec]

this stupid idiot reporter doesn't understand anything. Cher has used autotune for creativity on her voice, the first one is for the telephone alike sound effect and the second one for detortion cause she can sing amazingly.

[tablo213]

Pitch-correct software just corrects pitch and vibrato.

[hmzen]

I see i get it now. People are using melodyne to cheat there way through with no talent into the industry it makes sense!

bloody hell why have we gone this low...

[pepemogt]

Until computers compose music for us.

[PatrickDunnevant]

No...people have been USING computers to compose music.

As a composer, I use various composition programs and digital audio workstations, but there is no program that does the work for me. I still have to be creative and think it up, and then I can use those things once I have an idea.

[FunkMan53]

Computers have aided people in composing music since the 1960's.

[gonzo44]

well no you need talent in the first place as demonstrated by the guys terrible singing and it not working well

[FunkMan53]

Too many people want to be pop stars...

[dalviel]

To me it's the difference between using a piano or a synthesizer: one doesn't need tuning, and uses technology to create new sounds to music.

Remember the scare in the days of glam rock when they thought synthesizers would take over the market? The same thing's happening: all we're doing is widening our horizons as to how we make music.

[cdwondotcom]

its not tough, its all about who you know and who you are blowing

[stevecr223]

When I watch this video and pause at 1:52 and 3:08 I see that this guy has loads more tools than I have on my version of melodyne. I have Studio 3.22 which is supposed to be the best... can anyone tell me which version he is using?

[dariunas]

Melodyne is apparently a bit sexual as a Dr Rex style beat-mangling tune also :D

[Strate2]

melodyne can really make my vocals be right in tune, but when i don't sing with nuff energie, it still sounds fucked up, so melodyne is not a bad productional-programme, but just a useful tool.

[SGwizard1]

as another producer, i used melodyne cre8 to clear up notes, not make someone a superstar with it. also its excellent for doing harmonies, which is a real timesaver.

[Collaboratory313]

Me personally coming from a Producer, I think it's a good idea technically, but it's just better to get a singer that actually has "Talent" if ya catch my drift. if everybody could sing then there wouldn't be no Beyonce, Mariah, or any other singer cuz then nobody would be able to differntiate real talent and just pure studio made singing...a singer has to get on stage sooner or later...a studio singer would be great but would only sound good on your personal home entertainment system. no live.

[lifeMac]

Beyonce and Mariah both use auto tuning software... nobody can sing perfectly and they are consistently perfectly on pitch in all of their music and they don't sound as good live. Once you throw your vocals over pitch perfect electronic instruments it amplifies how off key you are. When the music is put with real instruments live the chance of them being off key is just as likely as your voice. You'll never hear an off pitch note anymore- even great artists have bad notes.

[drumbum1010]

samantha your not one of those singers you talked about... just thought that was funny.

[nameless12345]

melodyne is blasphemy dude

[robertvoice]

I Agree! Creation of a plug-in to improve the mixing is A THING, but make a untalented person sound fine???? Come on, You have it or dont have it....u.u

[smackythefrog23]

no, it is a great tool for fixing minor issues with pitch. However, when one begins to use it as a crutch, it then becomes what you said.

[sacredcow1979mk2]

If you're a solo writer and producer, and the one thing you CAN'T do is sing, does that mean your suppose to give it up? Of course not. If you want to listen to music with authenticity, plenty was made between 1955-95. Music now is all about branding and product. To the guy who said that using melodyne didn't make it punk anymore, wasn't the whole idea of punk that it was DIY music that anyone can make? What's the difference between that and using melodyne or other pitch correction software?

[NathanLee0921]

Thank you man. I'm a song writer myself. And I can't sing good enough, but I love music as much as anyone. People claps for singers not songwriters. Which is unfair because what's more important a good melody, harmony (instrumentals), and lyrics or a singer? I prefer a good song. I want to be on stage and have people listen to my songs sung by me, not someone else. People who can sing, but have no song...rather writer your own or cover my songs. LOL. Do it legally though.

[AmericanDiaz]

I want to sound like a spice girl!

[2spartan1]

Anybody know how to copy and paste like he did so that way in can harmonize? Been trying this with melodyne and it doesnt work for me....even read the manual

[studioblogic]

Dupe the track and make the new track the harmony part by pitch shifting in a new instance of Melodyne.

[2spartan1]

I dont understand that.....can you explain more in detail? Would love to learn how to accomplish that! That would make everything alot easier!....I can give you my email if it helps?

[jameskings]

2spartan1, the way you do it is:

1. edit the pitch of the voice you want to harmonize

2. Select on the bottom left an option called NOTE SNAP)

3. After that, you can select all (CTRL + A), then press SHIFT + ALT, drag the waves up or down and then voilà =)

You don't need to select all... I prefer doing it note by note.. Hope this helps!

[ap0lll0]

Great way to do it, thanks!

[thibaulthalpern]

I've seen a more recent video of Tayfun King who is thinner. Any info on him? He's HOT!

[azjemenou]

Direct Note Acces will change music history!

and will create new interesting stuff for lawers

it's release date will be a historic one

like that of the of the creation of the multitrackrecorder...digital reverb...midi....FM-synthese..­.timestretching (blew my mind in 1985)...and autotune in 1999

[Mahavishnu80]

todays pop music is probably 20% about the music and 80% about the celebrity and all the other crap. You wouldnt hear a live rock band use it. It doesnt change the tone of someones voice so its really just saving studio time and money for professional musicians. For all you getting so pissy about it stop listening to shit pop music.

[ssssroryssss2]

That doesn't matter. Studios use melodyne on any singer, no matter what the style of music.

[VirgilMaro]

It CAN change the tone of the voice. Well, Other programs can.

[djGeniX]

it can, but its not a precice science... and it is only in terms of formants... not the pronounciation of each word and the power behind it...

[genevaslab]

I use melodyne to work out harmonies and stuff; however I always go and sing each harmony and then pitch correct it. I don't think this changes music history that much, look at audio quantizing and beat detective on pro tools, shouldn't a real drummer know how to play in time? Sure, but it's just to get it that extra bit tighter. And with this, to make the singer a little more in tune. I produce punk rock music and use, no-one who listens to it can tell, neither can I!

[AmericanDiaz]

yeah no one can tell, that makes it not punk anymore. Thanks for reminding me that drivel recorded on pro tools sounds better than actually performed. Geez, is there anything sacred anymore? The Beatles didn't need pitch correction so why the fuck should anyone else who wants to make a million billion dollars?

[genevaslab]

I do agree with you that it's not very sacred and it should be about capturing the performance. Look at the records from the 50's and 60's. Beach Boy's vocals used to be done on all one track and all the singers had to get it dead right. I'm seriously thinking about doing some things a lot more old school as far as production techniques are concerned and try to capture the talent and feel rather than the laziness. Britney Spears is a prime example because she's a terrible singer.

[zevasthian]

yep, but music industry sells through our eyes, so therefore today people consume the song and the video and the image, and they care more about the image of an 'artist' and to fix the big gap of talent they developed this peace of fenomenal equipment that could be used as an optional resource, why not, but producers should focus on capturing the performance of a real artisti.

[NathanLee0921]

I have to disagree. The industry is not fooling anyone. People want to listen to a good song that they can move to (physically and emotionally) that's all. People know T-Pain, Akon, and Kayne West can't sing for real, but still buy their CD. I believe the songs is more important. Listen to Kayne's Hey Mama and tell me you didn't want to cry. If you want 100% vocals, just buy CD from the 60s. If you want good songs listen to producers who don't need others to sing their songs for them.

[enoise777]

fantastic tool for sound design though

[KevinAlexanderLive]

I dont like Samantha very much...

[michaelwalsh1234]

It's really cool. Shouldn't be overused though

[iggypopster]

What is perfect if that is perfecting. Please tell me what you think perfect means and why we need that anyway. please, there is no logical argument to make except bored enginners and producers. Learn how to sing and play. Do you really want to buy a lie from a recording artist? Who are you really listening to....a computer! Please please. Do the right thing. People will laugh at who we used this advanced tool to make "perfection" hahahahahahah come on.

[iggypopster]

quick and perfect is NOT better!

[TruPhan]

Ah, I see.  So what you're saying is that by perfecting music, sound engineers are geeks. Whereas if they don't do their job, and in fact don't engineer anything, they are somehow better engineers. ...that don't engineer anything.

Thanks iggypopster. I like the way that you take a simple idea and then have it not make sense.

[iggypopster]

So you are saying making unrealistic audio is a good thing. That bad singers with autotune is a good thing? That lying to the consumers about how well one really sings is a good thing. Now think about it....it is not a real performance, it is a fake representation of the original. Is that what people really want. fake perfection? really? is that what engineering has become. Sad. Get good performers who don't want or need that crap. it is much more rewarding sonically and emotionally. use it!!

[iggypopster]

So engineering in only correcting huh? nothing else. That is what YOU are saying. Engineering was different in the days of real recording...pre computer. When artist were real and engineers like myself could make real records with musicians who play. Not beats and corrections to no end. Enjoy your miss readings of my posts. now go back to the studio and find other ways to be an engineer. I'll teach ya.

[awesomesauce2000]

Once you were a real engineer, now you spend your days leaving about a dozen comments on every video featuring Melodyne in which you rant about how only sucky artists use it.

[iggypopster]

DONT MISQUOTE ME. you've got mail. Also, I was never a "real engineer" so get over it. Are you following me?

[iggypopster]

This is a BAD BAD BAD thing. Pitch & beat correction etc.... are bad ideas. Weak engineers who claim some clock rules their choices. Shameful!!! Any engineer who uses this on a real performance is not a engineer...., the are geeks.

[TruPhan]

"Any engineer who uses this on a real performance is not a engineer...., the are geeks."

Can someone translate what iggypopster said into English for me?

[iggypopster]

Let me clear up the obvious. Anyone who uses this tool to "fix" a performance, rather than getting a good performance in the first place, is a bad engineer and yes, a geek. They become someone playing with toys rather than getting a true and good performance. The "clock" is time in the studio ticking away at someones expense. Please feel free to continue the debate because the audio world needs it!!!

[livefromsaturn]

just like an analog delay pedal and spring reverb and transistor distortion emulated the bombast of seeing a band in a club, melodyne will become a creative tool that opens doors to the creative. Even great singers that I have worked with ask for a little melodyne, don't lean on it too hard & it is inspiring. Thta real performance you talk about is enhanced by compressors, eq, tubes etc- u like the sound of an elec guitar straight into the board? Purists are impure, just as perfection is a myth.

[mcparham]

well said.

[DeathByPixel]

THANK YOU.

[787Bisurdaddy]

livefromsaturn:

Incredibly well said, and I think it's worth noting that vocal tracks have always been recorded and selected for their best performance qualities, and processed by other equipment/techniques. Melodyne SAVES TIME, which is a bonus for both the studio and the musician.

Besides, it's more interesting when the live performance isn't EXACTLY like the studio stuff; I doubt anyone is going to flip out if a live performance isn't absolutely perfect. Well, I would hope not, anyway.

[NathanLee0921]

Powerful paragraph. I appreciated it.  And you're totally right. Hell, the Beatles would have begged to have this kind of technology in their time. Guess they can wait for reincarnation. LOL.

[DJnewsagent]

My god, that girl thinks she is a "professional" singer. LMFAO !!!

[Jo123Jo]

I think the blokey said at the start that she'd sing an unpolished version, I guess so we can hear how melodyne would work? :S

[drzcrazy]

can it work in sonar please tell me

[maltcus]

yes

[Zlaja16]

the engineers that made the cher song used a vocoder not auto tune....bbc is wrong on that

[lowdbrent]

Exactly! If you're gonna do a report, get it right.

[EddCunningham]

No.... It was autotune.

Vocoders are a completely different thing.

[MatthewPatch]

It was autotune, idiots.

They abused the settings (eg. Sang an F and retuned it to a C)

[TrapYap]

no 'tardo..... they used an autotuner.

[Zlaja16]

no you jag off i read an interview with the producer and he said that he used a vocoder...so if he lied then im wrong

[Superboy14061]

actually not true..look on Wikipedia and everything.

[DannyGMusic]

They used a vocoder and something else I cannot remember right now. After that, some other producers realised they could achieve the same effect using autotune.

[DannyGMusic]

Of course I was referring to Cher

[chulukinat]

lol...you guys startin a war?

i think they both used a vocoder and autotune. its definately not only a vocoder.... but i definately do hear a vocoder on it.

[colorfinger]

It's Melodyne.

Melodyne is software for tuning and retuning vocals. It has nothing to do with vocoding (shaping an instrument to a voice), though you can output from Melodyne to a MIDI instrument. Why is everyone confused about this? It's right in the name of the video.

[OurLucylocket]

Its Not NEW !! Its been around for years...and years..

[paularacy]

whos the guy from another video of u? you?

[MarvelousProductions]

I love the software and its features but it should only be used with professional very good singers. And it should only be used to make it flawlessly perfect because when it comes time for the artist to do a show, if it is a bad singer, people will notice that immediately

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[nativeops]

yeah, this is another reason why most artists today can barely perform their music.

[XxWaLkThIzWaYxX]

i love melodyne!

[connell2k1]

Melodyne is a fantastic piece of software, I use it in my own studio but begs the question; can anyone famous without tallent nowadays?

Adam

[aleciocosta]

it is a shame that nowadays anyone seems to be a professional singer, based on such tools like Autotune, Melodyne, etc.

[robovangkol]

Yeah, no.