@trigun00111 It's the Dark Tower series by Stephen King. It's a series of 7 books, and they are in this order : The Gunslinger, The Drawing of the Three, The Waste Lands, Wizard and Glass, Wolves of the Calla, Song of Susannah, The Dark Tower.
The way I see it, this song doesn't let you take it for granted. Just another emo goth blanket song. Yes I was in the lowest point of life even to this day.
But it let's you attach your own reasons and carries them away. The down syndrome is just an intimate theme for the writer to make a better song. . .
this song is my favorite of all time... My best friend is killing themself today and this was the first song I listened to and im only going to listen to this for the next... few hours or so.. Demons and Wizards, will always be here.
Or there is the third possibility, that the song could have multiple meanings, it may have originally been made about Down Syndrome, but it was probably put on the Dark Tower album because it could be related to Roland's paternal situation also...
This song has multiple meanings, and it's left up to interpretation as well. I have a belief it's about Roland's father, and not wanting to get attached to him knowing what he would have to grow up and become, and also Mordred in both DT and Arthurian legend, or just a father having a similar situation with his son. He writes his songs to have those multiple meanings intentionally.
@gunslingersirk It may have multiple meanings, but the primary meaning is about Roland's father as the whole album "Touched by the Crimson King" is based on the Dark Tower by Stephen King. However ppl will will read into it what they will, especially if they haven't read the Dark Tower series.
"“Down Where I Am” is about a baby born with Down’s Syndrome and the struggle of his father and the emotions going in and out of his mind. It’s all pretty heavy despite all the acoustic guitars and it doesn’t matter if the music came first or the lyrics came first or if it was written all together. The way I define heavy is that it creates a moving emotion inside you."
@hintursul Thanks for the comment mate,I had no idea what this song was about.Now it's ten times more depressing...Hansi is great at making songs which tell stories and can touch your feelings
@AnthonyRF1996 Yes, it is Schaffer and Hansi being interviewed. Here you have it, for if you'd like to read it (fix the two parts of the link together, since youtube doesn't let me post it altogether :S)
Then good luck in your search for Dorian in the series. Or you can try to take "beneath these waves" and try and say it had some bullshit to do with roland in "the drawing of three". They even cover Zepplin's "immagrant song" but im sure you will try and say that is about the series as well. 3 out of 10 songs isnt the entire album guy. better luck next time
@kuklampe Haha, you do know this band is a collaboration of the two working together right? Not a big deal if you didnt, it does seem like an easy mistake.
okay so i know this is'nt the right song to be asking this question for and I'm sorry for being off topic but does anyone know where I can get the tabs for Fiddler on the Green?
At its core, its about someone who has a newborn baby, then is revulsed by the fact they they have a medical/mental/physical defect and doesnt want anything to do with them and resents other "perfect" newborns while outcasting their own.
@emeraldrafael I believe it is a large reference to Stephen King's Dark Tower series. They have done many songs about it. To me this fits in with the birth of Mordred. I dunno, it's a very deep song. Can hold many things. :D
Jon Schaffer has a new project called Sons of Liberty. Everyone should check it out, it's awesome!! He had a site made where you can hear the music for free (sons DASH of DASH liberty DOT net). It deals with some pretty important shit; I recommend it to all.
Jon Schaffer has a new solo project called Sons of Liberty. He does the singing for it too, and he's actually quite good. If you're a fan of Iced Earth, you should definitely check it out (sons DASH of DASH liberty DOT net)
@sewagedweller Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came contains much different subject matter from the Arthurian legends. Plus it's generally just a little more epic.
Well, i doubt that this song is about a child with down syndrome, for this whould be rachism against those children. Hansi's not like this, and i will not accept that a man like him would abandon his newborn child just for not being like the others. Please, somebody tell me that i am correct, cause i can't stand knowing that this beautiful song tells such a bad and unfair story.
@Fingon07 Well, as much as some people may disagree with my belief this is what I think it meant. But as far as I remember this album, at least most of it was Devoted to Stephen King's Dark Tower series, in which Susanah gave birth to Rolands child which was concieved by rape from a demon during which Roland was attempting to bring Jake back into midworld. .
@Fingon07 Now I can be wrong, but Its my own personal belief that this song starts off explaining the beauty of child birth. But then it goes into how the child was not wanted, because of the rape, Also interestinly enough it had been Rolands son as well. Fantastic set of books, I would say everyone should read them. Like I said, it's my own personal opinion
In response to peoples personal beliefs, my first thoughts were a baby concieved through rape. I know its a guy singing but it could apply either way.
i personally believe that this song is about someone that hates himself so much that the thought of passing on his genes is more than he can take. Life isn't meant for everyone.
I personally beleive this song is about a father, who's wife died in child birth, and now he hates the child, because whenever he see's it, it reminds him of his dead wife andthen blames his child, so his child just grows up, hated and resented by his father.
I see it as the man who's giving up on his degenerate child is repulsed by himself for making such a decision, and he just wants it to die, or leave the man's life in any way possible, he just wants to forget about it and go on, but that feeling of great discomfort and pain is upon him.
@SexRobotOfDoom this song comes after fiddler on the green, and if you know that song thenyou know that two kids die and the father of a girl thats killed has another baby and resents it
I know Fiddler, and it's been one of my personal favorites for years, but I don't think this song is related to that in any way, especially when Jon stated that this song is about a child with Down's syndrome.
And I didn't ask about the whole meaning, just that one line.
i have a friend who was a good friend of hansi and he said that the child is of the father of the girl that died and that the child did have problems but fiddler was about a real thing while down where i am is fictional
Its on the wikipedia page for Touche by the Crimson King dude, srsleh that took like 2 minutes..... Down Where I Am is about a baby born with Downs Syndrome and the struggle of his father and the emotions going in and out of his mind. quoted straight off their page
When I first read about it on Wikipedia, it said the song was about Roland's son Mordred Deschain. That's actually the only thing that motivated me into checking it out, and no matter what anyone says, it's Mordred Deschain I will imagine whenever I hear this song for that simple fact.
@ometta7 Never liked Mordred from the DT series... he killed off the best antagonist ever - The Walking Dude: Flagg! I mean Flagg and Roland had a bitter history; seducing his mother etc and at the end of Wizard & Glass the write a check that is never cashed: That they'd meet again & have a show down... instead they kill him off to promote a noob... tsk tsk
Flagg was a great villain, there's no denying that, but I think his humiliating death at the hands of a "noob" because of his own arrogance was perfect justice. He should've been more careful and realized he was dealing with a half-God who could obviously read minds, instead he spewed crackers all over his shirt and worried about the baby shitting on him.
I liked Mordred because of how pitiful he was despite his evil nature. He was like the Antichrist, born into hatred.
That's fair enough can't argue on opinion, I just felt King pushed for the King Arthur story line late in the day and ruined what could have been an epic face off rather than Mordred just being shot into a fire... I dunno, I felt the last 3 books went down hill
Yes, it really is a matter of opinion. I can respect your's if you can respect mine. I thought the last book was great, because it showed the humanity of the villains, their weakness and vulnerability. A pretty good lesson for those wanting to choose an evil path.
Besides, I don't think an "epic showdown" would translate very well in book form. Maybe if it were a movie or comic, but it's really hard to describe a fight and keep it thrilling. But your opinion is just as valid to me. =)
yes, good points - I very much liked how the Crimson King was interpreted in the comics; the vision of an evil Santa Claus didn't resonate. In the comic he seems to have drawn from King's work IT; being more of an aracnid and saying his true form would cause Roland's brains to pour from his ears. I'd like the read more of the series if it's out there - I only have Born and The Long Journey Home (think that's the title)
There's also Treachery and Sorcerer. Sorcerer explains Flagg's history and childhood as well as his reason for hating Roland so much. I think Treachery is the sequel to Long Road Home.
I haven't read the comics, unfortunately they're expensive and hard to find where I live, but I've read about them.
seems to me, this is about his wife or girlfriend dieing giving birth, and the indifference he faces, hating the child for killing her, but i've been wrong before
could be about a father remembering his son's birth, and how innocent he seemed. the son probably grew up to be a sick fuck, or an evil person, or probably had a fucked-up death.
@ArmoredRyu No dude!! Hansi from blind guardian has a project on the side with Jon Schaffer from Iced Earth... they call their project Demons and Wizards.
When the bombs fell of Hiroshima, he cried out in pain. "My God, My God what have I done." We'll never know the meaning to some of his equations, they are still left unfinished.
The man dreamed of bringing light and warmth to Siberia, of seeing an end to war of tyranny, and what he saw were hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed with a weapon that his physics helped create.
Put to song, I feel this story would be moving and heart breaking, and it seems Demons and Wizards style.
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It can be about a demon who didn't obey to satan and they cuted his wings and he is on earth now and looks for redeeme, to turn in an angel.this is my theory and pardon my english
song with best story ever. there are 3 diferen stories in this song, and at the end all of them became one, real life story. the best project ever, iced earth + blind guardian +bobby jarzomback. THE END
What i belive this song is about satan having a child and not bearing the sight of what his own father created a miracle...How sick of a person he is after having a child he relizes he doesnt need to be the way he is.. he feels the way he does because of so much jeaoulsy satan had nd after having a child he finds out that his father god ws doing the best for him but he chose his own path..now the child will change him..
When I hear this song I picture a child(possibly the antichrist) wandering the world alone, afraid, and unwanted. Slowly turning bitter and resentful of everyone.
Personally, this song makes me picture a female rape victim who hates that she has given birth to the child of a man who forced himself on her. Though because it is still her child, she can't help but love it.
can someone tell me what the books are called im intrested ty so much
trigun00111 2 weeks ago
@trigun00111 It's the Dark Tower series by Stephen King. It's a series of 7 books, and they are in this order : The Gunslinger, The Drawing of the Three, The Waste Lands, Wizard and Glass, Wolves of the Calla, Song of Susannah, The Dark Tower.
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This song gives me a weird sense of nostalgia, of talking to certain people in the past... Great song :D
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The way I see it, this song doesn't let you take it for granted. Just another emo goth blanket song. Yes I was in the lowest point of life even to this day.
But it let's you attach your own reasons and carries them away. The down syndrome is just an intimate theme for the writer to make a better song. . .
frebetta 3 months ago
so good song and i can't listen it to the end ....
isuckNewbton 4 months ago
this song is my favorite of all time... My best friend is killing themself today and this was the first song I listened to and im only going to listen to this for the next... few hours or so.. Demons and Wizards, will always be here.
arabidcrackhead 4 months ago
@arabidcrackhead Sorry about your friend.
TamTamCool 4 months ago
Or there is the third possibility, that the song could have multiple meanings, it may have originally been made about Down Syndrome, but it was probably put on the Dark Tower album because it could be related to Roland's paternal situation also...
tobkir1 4 months ago
The only music that ever made me cry. I love you Stella, you're one of the best people of the world... I love you, my dear sister...
Raphacom123 4 months ago
good stuff, that intro guitar reminds me of the music for the first Diablo game
TheBigfoot228 5 months ago
beautiful music!
4CinPoperinge 5 months ago
I was looking for another song but I like this one.....!
M34sketosnakepit 6 months ago
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?Down Where I Am? is about a baby born with Down?s Syndrome and the struggle of his father and the emotions going in and out of his mind.
And there are a few others he says aren't about Dark Tower.
IIIlllIIllIlI 6 months ago
@loudNiNjA28
No, it's about Down's Syndrome, says the people who wrote the song.
IIIlllIIllIlI 6 months ago
I just love this song,remember the first time when I heard this song,the feeling is still the same..
Annabel1Lee 6 months ago
this is about misscarriage, what is wrong with you...?!
mrtujub 6 months ago
such a fun song to play
dwaynbob 7 months ago
I think its fine to say that ALL of Demon's and Wizards songs are beast. Why doesn't EVERYONE know Demons and Wizards?
Lowestpitch 8 months ago 2
@Lowestpitch If everyone knew Demon's and Wizards, we wouldn't be part of the selected group that do know them jeje
RAAMerisima 8 months ago
it makes me cry..... even if im so fucking happy..... my liddlest sister has Down Syndrom....... cry for her too......
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MannIchFindKeinName 9 months ago 6
@MannIchFindKeinName i'm sorry. I bet you're making her life a lot better, though. that's a good thing.
zeroflowne 3 months ago
@zeroflowne i hope so =D
i think she is happy, shes the happiest of them... i hope that it stays like this...
thank you.
MannIchFindKeinName 3 months ago
incredible song. one of my favorites.
blaed 10 months ago 3
This song has multiple meanings, and it's left up to interpretation as well. I have a belief it's about Roland's father, and not wanting to get attached to him knowing what he would have to grow up and become, and also Mordred in both DT and Arthurian legend, or just a father having a similar situation with his son. He writes his songs to have those multiple meanings intentionally.
gunslingersirk 10 months ago
@gunslingersirk It may have multiple meanings, but the primary meaning is about Roland's father as the whole album "Touched by the Crimson King" is based on the Dark Tower by Stephen King. However ppl will will read into it what they will, especially if they haven't read the Dark Tower series.
loudNiNjA28 6 months ago
it makes me cry...
It hurts so much...
But I feel happiness in my chest! And I want to run away from this world.
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clintdejong 11 months ago
What is this song about just curious.
UndeadBeaner 11 months ago
@UndeadBeaner a parent with a child with the down syndrome
kyoshintama 11 months ago
@UndeadBeaner this song is played in the movie predator when blain dies
mattouw23 8 months ago
@mattouw23 the band hasn't been around that long i dont think
UndeadBeaner 8 months ago
@UndeadBeaner From the early to late 90's I think.
roijas 7 months ago
:')
MasterpieceSolis 1 year ago
I was under the impression the song was about Mordred, since this album's songs are mostly about the Dark Tower
HawthornWitch 1 year ago
Isn´t it great to see how life begins?
maurorock445 1 year ago
hum Guys I really feel lonesome right now anyone wanna chitchat
hotsexygril2025 1 year ago
Ya~ This a great song for breaking up with someone, but not for someone with a great relationship going >.>
secretk33per 1 year ago
IN the top comments the first comment makes the second look good xD
BADlorn 1 year ago
Down where I am
That's where darkness grows
And silence is your only friend...
jaddy13 1 year ago 4
Oh my God! What a Great Song!!! I Love it!!!
MrPopeleater 1 year ago
According to this interview:
"“Down Where I Am” is about a baby born with Down’s Syndrome and the struggle of his father and the emotions going in and out of his mind. It’s all pretty heavy despite all the acoustic guitars and it doesn’t matter if the music came first or the lyrics came first or if it was written all together. The way I define heavy is that it creates a moving emotion inside you."
hintursul 1 year ago 25
I guess it would've been insensitive to name the song Down's Where I am.
But it would've made so much more sense.
Jinxerz010792 1 year ago
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hahaha
supermegakuma 8 months ago
@hintursul Thanks for the comment mate,I had no idea what this song was about.Now it's ten times more depressing...Hansi is great at making songs which tell stories and can touch your feelings
VANORESTIOS666 1 year ago
@hintursul it that schaffer being interviewed?
AnthonyRF1996 2 months ago
@AnthonyRF1996 Yes, it is Schaffer and Hansi being interviewed. Here you have it, for if you'd like to read it (fix the two parts of the link together, since youtube doesn't let me post it altogether :S)
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hintursul 2 months ago
@hintursul Moar like it's about Mordred Deshain, since you know the album is pretty much a concept album based on the Dark Tower series.
takeo12361 1 month ago
@takeo12361
you obviously have not read all the dark tower books or listened to the album then you fucking moron
deadstarchild 1 month ago
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0/10.
The album's name is based on the main antagonist. Nice try. I liked the part where you showed me where I was wrong. That evidence was the best.
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Then good luck in your search for Dorian in the series. Or you can try to take "beneath these waves" and try and say it had some bullshit to do with roland in "the drawing of three". They even cover Zepplin's "immagrant song" but im sure you will try and say that is about the series as well. 3 out of 10 songs isnt the entire album guy. better luck next time
deadstarchild 1 month ago
@hintursul Since it is from Touched by the crimson king and about The dark tower. Might it be about the kids that the wolves take in calla??
TheHuntingRat 1 week ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Demons & Wizards
@kuklampe Haha, you do know this band is a collaboration of the two working together right? Not a big deal if you didnt, it does seem like an easy mistake.
EddieCubillo 1 year ago
okay so i know this is'nt the right song to be asking this question for and I'm sorry for being off topic but does anyone know where I can get the tabs for Fiddler on the Green?
alakardglanoth 1 year ago
@alakardglanoth 911tabs.com has a good one
ein3737 1 year ago
@alakardglanoth word thanks dude lol been wantin to play that song on the violin for a while ha
alakardglanoth 1 year ago
I give up. I think I fell in love with Demons and Wizards because of this song!
penkaur 1 year ago 3
best song in my opinion..
Cadavru 1 year ago
@kuklampe Bullshit, that their styles fused doesn't mean it didn't change you simple-minded oaf.
kathyyyyyyyyy 1 year ago
Love the lead singers voice....
Technobanana 1 year ago 2
@Technobanana Great isn't it? :) The singer is Hansi Kursch from Blind Guardian
nemechan 1 year ago
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grimser 1 year ago
3 niggers disliked this
Sniperinhisname 1 year ago
what's the name of the drummer???in every song I hear some part on drums that I really like
guardianofstupid 1 year ago
@guardianofstupid
I think it's bobby jarzombek on this album
komakkun 1 year ago
@guardianofstupid Probably Bobby Jarzombek.
LichtgestaltWolff 1 year ago
@guardianofstupid His name is Bobby Jarzombek pretty sure.
darkstar2721 1 year ago
This is a weird song to make you feel better.
At its core, its about someone who has a newborn baby, then is revulsed by the fact they they have a medical/mental/physical defect and doesnt want anything to do with them and resents other "perfect" newborns while outcasting their own.
emeraldrafael 1 year ago 2
@emeraldrafael I believe it is a large reference to Stephen King's Dark Tower series. They have done many songs about it. To me this fits in with the birth of Mordred. I dunno, it's a very deep song. Can hold many things. :D
iradave 1 year ago
@iradave
Maybe, but this song in particular is about a man repulsed by his son. At least, thats the "official" meaning.
emeraldrafael 1 year ago
Whenever i have a shitty day i listen to this song and it makes me feel better :D
wigglesthemongoose 1 year ago 7
@wigglesthemongoose this song gets me down :D
freezingmoon999 1 year ago
I just love this song...
Psicotenico 1 year ago 4
i wish there was a love button
r2dan 1 year ago 7
*'Cuz Even Your Smile Hurts....
Oh It Hurts Like Hell..!!!!*
ThisEndlessMaze 1 year ago 9
best music *.*
splinterxlx 1 year ago 4
._. A few people missed the "Like" button for some reason. That's odd.
emotasticalsasuke 1 year ago
i think this song really draws attention to the sadness that roland felt deep down for mordred. excellent song from an amazing band!
reeper250 1 year ago
Jon Schaffer has a new project called Sons of Liberty. Everyone should check it out, it's awesome!! He had a site made where you can hear the music for free (sons DASH of DASH liberty DOT net). It deals with some pretty important shit; I recommend it to all.
IcedEarth426 1 year ago 2
perfect song
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Jon Schaffer has a new solo project called Sons of Liberty. He does the singing for it too, and he's actually quite good. If you're a fan of Iced Earth, you should definitely check it out (sons DASH of DASH liberty DOT net)
IcedEarth426 1 year ago 2
could this be about King Arthur's Unwanted birth of Mordred?
PhantomLord 1 year ago
@PhantomLord kinda , song is based on dark tower series and which is in turn is loosely based on king Arthur legend
sewagedweller 1 year ago
@sewagedweller hmmm didn't know Dark Tower had to do with Arthurian legend. interesting stuff.
PhantomLord 1 year ago
@sewagedweller Actually, kinda. It's more based on Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came.
Cohedros 1 year ago
@Cohedros what's the difference ?
sewagedweller 1 year ago
@sewagedweller Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came contains much different subject matter from the Arthurian legends. Plus it's generally just a little more epic.
Cohedros 1 year ago
agreed, top 1 of all bands in the world, i like them, they are the best what happens to me in y short life.
You are the best, wish you could read that.
MannIchFindKeinName 1 year ago
Well, i doubt that this song is about a child with down syndrome, for this whould be rachism against those children. Hansi's not like this, and i will not accept that a man like him would abandon his newborn child just for not being like the others. Please, somebody tell me that i am correct, cause i can't stand knowing that this beautiful song tells such a bad and unfair story.
Fingon07 1 year ago
@Fingon07 Well, as much as some people may disagree with my belief this is what I think it meant. But as far as I remember this album, at least most of it was Devoted to Stephen King's Dark Tower series, in which Susanah gave birth to Rolands child which was concieved by rape from a demon during which Roland was attempting to bring Jake back into midworld. .
MetalShallReign 1 year ago
@Fingon07 Now I can be wrong, but Its my own personal belief that this song starts off explaining the beauty of child birth. But then it goes into how the child was not wanted, because of the rape, Also interestinly enough it had been Rolands son as well. Fantastic set of books, I would say everyone should read them. Like I said, it's my own personal opinion
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theforlornknight 1 year ago
@pattycoelho1 Totally agree with you. This song is one o' my favorites
redmanlouk3 1 year ago
Gee, and here I was thinking it was more along the lines of "go then there are other worlds than these"..........................
Tsukikoamoonchild 1 year ago
In response to peoples personal beliefs, my first thoughts were a baby concieved through rape. I know its a guy singing but it could apply either way.
HierKommtJen 1 year ago
fantastic song
recordace 1 year ago
Cause even your smile hurts...
nodeterin 1 year ago
i personally believe that this song is about someone that hates himself so much that the thought of passing on his genes is more than he can take. Life isn't meant for everyone.
IcedEarth58703 1 year ago 5
I personally beleive this song is about a father, who's wife died in child birth, and now he hates the child, because whenever he see's it, it reminds him of his dead wife andthen blames his child, so his child just grows up, hated and resented by his father.
thejake1453 1 year ago 4
"I fear my heart and fear my soul"
Can someone share their views on this?
I see it as the man who's giving up on his degenerate child is repulsed by himself for making such a decision, and he just wants it to die, or leave the man's life in any way possible, he just wants to forget about it and go on, but that feeling of great discomfort and pain is upon him.
SexRobotOfDoom 1 year ago 3
@SexRobotOfDoom this song comes after fiddler on the green, and if you know that song thenyou know that two kids die and the father of a girl thats killed has another baby and resents it
guitardudde1 1 year ago
Can you even back that up with some evidence?
I know Fiddler, and it's been one of my personal favorites for years, but I don't think this song is related to that in any way, especially when Jon stated that this song is about a child with Down's syndrome.
And I didn't ask about the whole meaning, just that one line.
SexRobotOfDoom 1 year ago
i have a friend who was a good friend of hansi and he said that the child is of the father of the girl that died and that the child did have problems but fiddler was about a real thing while down where i am is fictional
guitardudde1 1 year ago
Okay then, even more of a bummer.
SexRobotOfDoom 1 year ago
@SexRobotOfDoom That's pretty much how I see it.
SpawnRevenge92 1 year ago
If my boy is either retarded or missing a chromosome this song is his!
BiancoVJ 1 year ago 5
Strong lul provoked. Well done.
mikeynov 1 year ago
One of the best songs in the music history!
GrimmjowJ1 2 years ago 76
bring mich immer wieder zum weinen der song einfach hammer gänsehaut pur ...*schnief*
nuernberggerin1990 2 years ago
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patheice 2 years ago
One of the most beautiful songs by Demons and Wizards
pattycoelho1 2 years ago 136
@pattycoelho1 Don't forget Fiddler on the Green.
ToastyMancakes 6 months ago
it's interesting how many interpretations can be related to this awesome song. For me one of the best of this disc. I loved Love's Tragedy too
vinnie19862510 2 years ago
according to an interview with jon schaffer, it's about the struggle of a father who's baby was born with down's syndrome.
It was wrongfully put on wiki that it was about modred, which i believe the song 'winter of souls' (from the self titled album) is about.
jimfordrey 2 years ago 4
Beutyful song.
I think it´s abaut what King Arthur thaught, when his son Mordred was born.
The song wonderful descripes this Pain and Bitterness.
Great text.
one of the best by Hansi!
And his voice is perfect!
Wonderful!
nazguhl9 2 years ago 3
its actually about Roland of Deschain and his tribulations of the book Wizard and Glass by Stephen King.
his woman was murdered, after she was impregnated by his 14 year old self, she was burned for baring "the demon seed."
ThingxHulk 2 years ago 2
...beautiful pics!
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1kolesar 2 years ago
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i love this song
sabaton1997666 2 years ago
@DarcProjekt that is how i understand that song. there s a problem with that ?
GraveMaster4 2 years ago 4
Its on the wikipedia page for Touche by the Crimson King dude, srsleh that took like 2 minutes..... Down Where I Am is about a baby born with Downs Syndrome and the struggle of his father and the emotions going in and out of his mind. quoted straight off their page
Elochai12 2 years ago
When I first read about it on Wikipedia, it said the song was about Roland's son Mordred Deschain. That's actually the only thing that motivated me into checking it out, and no matter what anyone says, it's Mordred Deschain I will imagine whenever I hear this song for that simple fact.
ometta7 2 years ago
@ometta7 Never liked Mordred from the DT series... he killed off the best antagonist ever - The Walking Dude: Flagg! I mean Flagg and Roland had a bitter history; seducing his mother etc and at the end of Wizard & Glass the write a check that is never cashed: That they'd meet again & have a show down... instead they kill him off to promote a noob... tsk tsk
IcedBLAZE 1 year ago
Flagg was a great villain, there's no denying that, but I think his humiliating death at the hands of a "noob" because of his own arrogance was perfect justice. He should've been more careful and realized he was dealing with a half-God who could obviously read minds, instead he spewed crackers all over his shirt and worried about the baby shitting on him.
I liked Mordred because of how pitiful he was despite his evil nature. He was like the Antichrist, born into hatred.
ometta7 1 year ago
@ometta7
That's fair enough can't argue on opinion, I just felt King pushed for the King Arthur story line late in the day and ruined what could have been an epic face off rather than Mordred just being shot into a fire... I dunno, I felt the last 3 books went down hill
IcedBLAZE 1 year ago
Yes, it really is a matter of opinion. I can respect your's if you can respect mine. I thought the last book was great, because it showed the humanity of the villains, their weakness and vulnerability. A pretty good lesson for those wanting to choose an evil path.
Besides, I don't think an "epic showdown" would translate very well in book form. Maybe if it were a movie or comic, but it's really hard to describe a fight and keep it thrilling. But your opinion is just as valid to me. =)
ometta7 1 year ago
yes, good points - I very much liked how the Crimson King was interpreted in the comics; the vision of an evil Santa Claus didn't resonate. In the comic he seems to have drawn from King's work IT; being more of an aracnid and saying his true form would cause Roland's brains to pour from his ears. I'd like the read more of the series if it's out there - I only have Born and The Long Journey Home (think that's the title)
IcedBLAZE 1 year ago
There's also Treachery and Sorcerer. Sorcerer explains Flagg's history and childhood as well as his reason for hating Roland so much. I think Treachery is the sequel to Long Road Home.
I haven't read the comics, unfortunately they're expensive and hard to find where I live, but I've read about them.
ometta7 1 year ago
seems to me, this is about his wife or girlfriend dieing giving birth, and the indifference he faces, hating the child for killing her, but i've been wrong before
ghowe8 2 years ago 2
@ghowe8 wow! I have to say that this song cuts even deeper with your definition of the lyrics... thanks!
DarcProjekt 2 years ago
one of best ballads of all time.
one of best vocals of - Hansi and for me the BEST guitarist - Jon Shaffer .... LONG LIVE MAN !!!
isuckNewbton 2 years ago 6
EXCELENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
gusku2007 2 years ago
ahh ok
ArmoredRyu 2 years ago
i liked this song...
nbtet00 2 years ago
im going to cry...but this is a gut song very good song
retrarum1991 2 years ago
songs about a child being born with downs syndrome
davrosink 2 years ago 2
could be about a father remembering his son's birth, and how innocent he seemed. the son probably grew up to be a sick fuck, or an evil person, or probably had a fucked-up death.
agammoto 2 years ago 2
w8 a min the vocalist left blind guardian or what?.....
ArmoredRyu 2 years ago
This is just a side project, he's still in BG.
Jophelerx 2 years ago 2
@ArmoredRyu No dude!! Hansi from blind guardian has a project on the side with Jon Schaffer from Iced Earth... they call their project Demons and Wizards.
DarcProjekt 2 years ago
Hansi is too much of a god to be tied down to one band lol.
Valmarith 2 years ago 5
it talk about a father having a new born with down syndrome. its a good song, sad but good
metallalo666 2 years ago 8
It's about Roland and his son Mordred from Stephen King's Black Tower series...
AllenQuackenstein 2 years ago 4
@metallalo666 are you sure? Did you read is somewhere or is it a speculation?
DarcProjekt 2 years ago
Imagine... Your wife dies giving birth, and the child is not your own... Let yourself sink into the music, happy days.
Atheistx82 2 years ago 2
best metal band
Ennarico 2 years ago 3
This band has defeated every other I have heard. I loved Nightwish and still do but this band is just astounding! Incomparable.
SolarEclipse1897 2 years ago 6
I don't care about what it meant for them. To me these are words unspoken in my heart right now.
I quote: I don't wanna see you, 'cause even your smile hurts
So true right now (no I'm not talking about a lover).
Gwalchgwn2 2 years ago 3
Awesome song
Hansi beats them all :-)
InnerMessiah 2 years ago 4
Composition 10/10
Lyrics 10/10
execution 10/10
komakkun 2 years ago 109
@komakkun its more then 10 its a fucking 11 xDDD
freezingmoon999 1 year ago
"Down where I am there's no bitter end at all... "
What a line.
VonCreakyskin 2 years ago 8
Great song- Excellent video!!!
sevensins710 2 years ago 2
O.O I Love it!
KhelTrai 2 years ago 3
beautiful
pandora6565 2 years ago 3
very good
annashowek 2 years ago 2
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When the bombs fell of Hiroshima, he cried out in pain. "My God, My God what have I done." We'll never know the meaning to some of his equations, they are still left unfinished.
The man dreamed of bringing light and warmth to Siberia, of seeing an end to war of tyranny, and what he saw were hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed with a weapon that his physics helped create.
Put to song, I feel this story would be moving and heart breaking, and it seems Demons and Wizards style.
Atheistx82 2 years ago
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He being Einstein...
Atheistx82 2 years ago
it's perfect...
this song is soo.... great
Demosh89 2 years ago 4
gänsehaut pur...einfach nur der hammer.
*schnief*
nuernberggerin1990 2 years ago 2
woww! Really nice song!
csikir 2 years ago 6
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i thought this would be a heavy metal o well
FoxtrotBrother95 2 years ago
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And he is like an addicted guy without drugs and here the drugs are the evil.He is trying to change his habits. :)
AlexThePrivate 2 years ago
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It can be about a demon who didn't obey to satan and they cuted his wings and he is on earth now and looks for redeeme, to turn in an angel.this is my theory and pardon my english
AlexThePrivate 2 years ago
Pardon my perfect English, but you're dumb.
M1xBlender 2 years ago 11
This song is about a child with down syndrome and his struggle with his father..
coleman409 2 years ago 22
song with best story ever. there are 3 diferen stories in this song, and at the end all of them became one, real life story. the best project ever, iced earth + blind guardian +bobby jarzomback. THE END
GraveMaster4 2 years ago
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And bassist Rubin Drake, who did his part aswell even if he was unknown at the time.
Solidsidious 2 years ago
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@GraveMaster4 what are the stories? Where did you hear that from?
DarcProjekt 2 years ago
nice song
alexandruwady 2 years ago
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Does anyone else think Hansi sounds a bit like Paul McCartney here?
Great song.
DragoniumLight 2 years ago
What i belive this song is about satan having a child and not bearing the sight of what his own father created a miracle...How sick of a person he is after having a child he relizes he doesnt need to be the way he is.. he feels the way he does because of so much jeaoulsy satan had nd after having a child he finds out that his father god ws doing the best for him but he chose his own path..now the child will change him..
Beautiful
belenthian 2 years ago
When I hear this song I picture a child(possibly the antichrist) wandering the world alone, afraid, and unwanted. Slowly turning bitter and resentful of everyone.
ometta7 2 years ago
Personally, this song makes me picture a female rape victim who hates that she has given birth to the child of a man who forced himself on her. Though because it is still her child, she can't help but love it.
eternallytimeless 2 years ago 16
That's a very good concept as well. The beauty of songs is the fact that anyone can have their own meaning for them, is it not? =)
ometta7 2 years ago 7