GOD meant it when he said "Thou shall NOT kill" and will visit a horrifying punishment upon the people of this age. THANK YOU FR> FRANK for defending those who are unjustly put to death and for exposing evil
@mylittlekittens This is one of the stupidest replies I have ever gotten. FIRSTLY how do you know whether I am reproducing or NOT? Secondly, if I am not married, I am not supposed to be doing that. And even if I were married one does not reproduce CONSTANTLY, ................whereas "THOU SHALL NOT KILL" is a definate, all the time commandment.
@mylittlekittens I have ALREADY ANSWERED you!!!!! How do you know that I'm NOT??? ALSO you are supposed to be married FIRST!!!!!!!!! FIND ME A HUSBAND FIRST HUNNY--You are supposed to confirne you physical relations within MARRIAGE so quit repeating yourself
A very special and beautiful funeral for three little innocent children brutally murdered by the Abortion Industry. Just remember....More than merely take the life of an innocent child, abortion abuses, beats, and robs women. And then leaves them lying on the side of the road to suffer alone. Now I wish to make this very loud and clear.... From the very moment of Conception, the child has a Soul and is a living breathing person, now matter how small, even only a few cells small.
Thank you, Fr. Pavone, for giving dignity to these unborn innocents' lives. Pro-lifers, learn the TRUTH about Abortion & Choice. Most abortions are unwanted or coerced. Many are forced. Learn what you can do about it. Go to theunchoice(dot)com & clinicquotes(dot)com.
Eww picking trash out of the dumpster and wasting money on burying it...money that could have fed REAL hungry kids!! Wwjd? I think he'd feed starving kids with that money.
@jesusisaklingon Show some respect for the dead. At least there are cating souls in this world who don't shut their eyes to the suffering of this world. At least Fr. Pavone gave them a burial, and trust me those babies deserve much better.
"How did he get his hands on them?" Probably some neglectful abortionist threw the bodies in a dumpster which is usually what happens after the aborton.
The woman is more important than the embryo..THAT is obvious, without her they both die. If she feels, thinks, guesses that NOW is not the right time to give birth then, she shouldn't. Nature made it that way, literally dropped in her lap. In a real biological way it takes many years to grow a woman, only a few weeks to grow another embryo.
@jesusisaklingon They tell them what not to do so they can get into heaven as well. If I saw a child about to burn himself playing with fire would you condemn me for telling him to stop?
@PALOMITA694 My cat has one eye missing. We (me and kids) were laughing last night . Remembering when the shelter put me through the adoption process, 5 years ago, then approved me, and then when we were leaving they would not take the fee. They would not charge me, because it seems no one wanted her. Don't get me started on cat stories, they are like cute kids. Kids are actually harder. Having pets helps the family get along, really nice addition to a home!!
@mylittlekittens I understand you cats are unique they are like angels sent to make our lives happy. And the best thing about them is that they give you unconditional love. I have loved all my cats. They are like family members to me.
@mylittlekittens I am glad to know that other people think the same way I do about cats. Thank you for taking care of cats. You will be rewarded >^;;^<.
This is so sad. Abortion should be banned. There is a living child inside a mother, it should be considered murder to kill a baby inside the womb, or even when only its hhead is in the womb. Yes, I said that. People have partial abortions, the baby is born breach, and then killed while the head is in the womb. The fact that if a 2 week old child is killed, the parents, if found guilty, go to jail, but a baby can be killed in the womb, is wrong.
THIS IS THE BIGGEST PUBLICITY STUNT EVER, AND IT'S DISGUSTING!!!! HE'S NOT SPENDING THE MONEY SPENT ON THIS PHONY STUNT TO HELP CONSOLE THE MOTHERS WHO HAD TO MAKE THE DECISION SO THAT IN THE FUTURE THEY MIGHT BE FINANCIALLY FIT ENOUGH TO KEEP THEIR BABIES. ALSO, HE'S NOT GIVING A FUNERAL LIKE THIS TO THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO DIE FROM POVERTY AND MALNUTRITION EVERY YEAR.
THIS IS JUST A COMMERCIAL FOR PRIEST FOR LIFE, AND HE IS BENEFITTING FROM SOMETHING HE CONSIDERS AS MURDER!!!!
If a Mother has decided she made a mistake by getting pregnant then she has options! She can give the baby up for adoption! She doesn't have to destroy that life! Who are we to decide who has the right to develop or not develop or live or die? The argument it's "her body" is crazy! It's her body absolutely...but there's another body growing inside her body! She has no more the right to kill that body as does she a two year old child! I think it's an abomination to humanity! Innocence destroyed!
In my opinion there's no difference in aborting an unborn baby and killing a 1 month old baby that is already born! Both are growing humans! A mother that can do either has very serious moral issues or has been brainwashed by society into the thinking this is ok! The very fabric of our moral society is being torn to shreds! I don't think it is anyone's right to take another life when nature has started the course of a "new life" at whatever stage! It is not our choice to make!
Individual freedom???? It's a "freedom" to kill an innocent unborn baby? Wow...such freedom is morally irresponsible! How is it ever a person's right to end the life of an innocent fetus??? Anything that causes another living being to stop living is murder! Taking something from it's life before it can finish growth is murdering that baby's chance for life! It's a living baby growing inside! "Fetal brain activity" has been measured at as early as 40 days of gestation! References available!!
An important thing about basic human rights like life- nobody has to be worthy. Nobody earns the right to live. It is inalienable, and every living human being is automatically entitled.
@rachelg108 Children have developed brain that can feel pain, think, and emote. First trimester fetuses do not. You are stopping the development of a mass of genetically human cells, no different than an organ, not the life of a conscious being...
Lord, please forgive these mothers for what they have done and bring healing and comfort to them as they are probably hurting very badly. I ask this all through Jesus Christ Our Lord. Amen.
It is mind boggling how ppl can justify the killing of millions of unborn living human beings. They use poverty, overpopulation(myth),abuse,homelessness(even though many 'chose' to be homeless), sentience, convenience and a plethora of other 'EXCUSES'. The fact remains that these unborn are human, they are alive and abortion kills an unborn living human being.
Donna Heim, age 20, went to Her Medical Clinic accompanied by her sister. Donna told staff that she had asthma, and she noted this on her forms when she filled them out. Despite this pre-existing condition, a nurse anesthetist administered general anesthesia for her safe and legal abortion.
"But a person has an abortion, the baby has no choice or chance at life, rather the mother makes that choice. "
Not a single person who has ever lived, or who will ever live, is given a choice as to whether or not they live. A lot of people think horribly of this world and wish they had never been born. But that choice to live was made for them.
EXACTLY everyone has the right to their opinion. EVERYONE has the right to their own choices. Thank you for making my point FOR me. I am thankful the supreme court still agrees with us both. Thank you for making my point for me.
as soon as an embryo speaks up I will be more than happy to rethink my opinion. Until that day walking talking people (not masses of dividing cells) will always take priority in my book.
...an infant can't speak up for themselves, some who are senile can't speak for themselves, some mentally challenged can' t speak for themselves...etc.
Talking about dividing cells, that doesn't stop when we leave the womb.
Muslims I am sure would feel more comfortable if I would don a burka but I am not changing my lifestyle for their religion or yours. I have tried in several states to have my tubes tied. No doctor will preform it because I have no children. I have since had 2 abortions in 14 years of marriage and I am grateful it was available to me since others denied me options. I refuse to use my body for an incubator because people like you think I have no other value in life but a brood mare.
What?! This isn't about religion (nor did I speak of religion or of a God), not really discussing your 'lifestyle,' its not my business. I am speaking up for the aborted children who do not have a choice that you (or whomever) makes for them.
Should I ever be striken with dementia, alzhemiers, or any other debilitating disease.(IE. the me everyone knows no longer exsists) I would hope some angel of mercy would put a pillow over my face. Thats my opinion were all allowed to have one. The difference between me and you is that you want to restrict individual freedom on a moral basis.
The difference there is, you can that choice if you should happen to have a debilitating disease. You made that choice to your body, nothing wrong with that. But a person has an abortion, the baby has no choice or chance at life, rather the mother makes that choice.
I do want to restrict individual freedom on a moral basis, but remember, murder, robbery, etc. still illegal due to a moral basis.
Thank you for making my point I agree totally. My "lifestyle" is none of anyone's business. People like you choose to make it your business however.Vegans say we need to stop eating animals, they need to fuck off. Liberals want us to give up our guns, they need to fuck off. Everyone gets on their soap box about something poking their nose into something thats none of their buisness in the personal lives of others. I'm sure you have you "pet peeve" issue this is mine. Its none of your business.
Apparently you don't get it. Abortion is not a lifestyle, it is terminating an unborn child. Just like if one had a lifestyle that of a Nazi, KKK member, even a crazy Christian/Muslim, etc etc etc, this is America, stupidity is allowed, but once they start harming/killing those they hate, is where it crosses the line.
And abortion does just that, destroying a human life. That is the problem at point here.
There is no brain activity in utero until sometime near the end of the second trimester. If you have no brain activity you have no life. That goes for fetus and adults. There is no life present to destroy. To propose that there is life before brain activity begins is as crazy as saying there is life after brain activity stops. Thats why I am against partial birth abortion but at 6 to 8 weeks come on get real. You don't seem to buy into religious dogma so whats the deal?
Get real?! I am very real, I see our country/world legalize the killing of innocent babies who even you consider life after 6-8 weeks and I/we are the one(s) that want to suppress woman's rights and not to allow women to make their own choices....as if we are the 'male chauvinistic pigs' that you portray us to be...that is by far from the truth, the truth is the protection of unborn babies and their rights.
The fact is I have addressed all of your points while you have address none of my arguements. You continue talking in circles about killing children when just yesterday I argued this same subject. You seem to have nothing more to say on the subject. I don't have the time or patience to walk you through it again so this will be my last post. If you can't see the logic in my arguement I suggest you have a catscan to check for a tumor pressing against the cognative processing center of your brain.
No you didn't. Go through the posts, I have addressed your posts, you have constantly changed the subject, I replied to your posts and than you turned to another point without .. You even changed your answers, from "until an embryo speaks up..." to life starts with brain activity.
But, nonetheless, I suggest you re-read this and think about it for a while.
"I do want to restrict individual freedom on a moral basis, but remember, murder, robbery, etc. still illegal due to a moral basis."
The primary reason these things are illegal is for the government to protect the people from these things. However, if abortion were illegal, it would not be about protection for one's self and one's dependents. It would be a means to impose moral/religious beliefs onto others.
(1) No, as a collective -- a society -- people decided a very long time ago that they want protection from murder, robbery, etc. So, they created laws against such things and consequences for breaking such laws, to deter people from doing these things (protection for members of society), and also to enact vengeance (though this is debatable).
(2) It's about protection for oneself and one's dependents. If people were choosing to abort other people's babies, then that would likely be a problem. Because someone is deciding for someone else that they will not be having the baby. Any apparently un-justified inflicted suffering to a fetus would also be a problem. That's one reason why there is currently a limitation as to how late in the pregnancy one can have an abortion.
And how many fathers and mothers are forcing their children to abort their baby against the woman's will? Worse yet, how many men are forcing their wife/girlfriend to have an abortion against their will? Who gets to decide how late into the pregnancy is too late?
(1) Well, some people don't consider abortion "murder", just like some don't consider deaths resulting from warfare as "murder", and some don't consider capital punishment as "murder", and some don't consider death by accident as "murder", and some don't consider suicide as "murder", and some don't consider assisted suicide as helping with "murder", and no one considers death by disease as "murder". Depends on what you consider to be murder. I don't consider abortion to be murder.
There's a big difference that causes your analogy to fail. I consider killing fetuses about the equivalence of killing plants. I, however, don't consider killing Jews the equivalence of killing plants, because they are conscious, sentient human beings, rather than unconscious, _potential_ human beings.
Once again, you are begging the question, by trying to insinuate that abortion is murder without arguing _why_ it's "murder" -- how you _know_ it's murder.
(2) You are begging the question. Whether or not abortion is immoral is what we are debating. Murder, by definition, is immoral. By you stating that abortion is murder, you are assuming, as a given, that which you are trying to prove.
(3) It's also a pragmatic issue. Sometimes people are better off not living, if they are going to have a very diminished quality of life, and/or cause other people (such as their parents) to have a very diminished quality of life. The person who's life has ended before birth suffers the same amount as the people who were never even conceived because the sperm cell and ovum that would have resulted in these people never met.
@Pulseczar1 Not pragmatic. It's a moral judgment issue, as in what gives you the moral right to decide anyone else's life, even that of a fetus, is not worth living?
(4) So, the question to end the fetus's life is only slightly more difficult than the question of whether or not to use contraception, unless you have religious beliefs that add difficulty. And there should be no laws based on religious (non-verifiable) beliefs, because that is pushing one's religion onto others, infringing religious freedom (which includes freedom from religion).
Sure, I have my religious beliefs about artificial contraception. But I would never impose my religious beliefs in this country, the point being made is this, the protection of the unborn, abortion destroys an unborn baby, therefore, we must protect the unborn child. Contraception, that is and should always be a personal belief.
@Pulseczar1 There are atheists and agnostics who are also pro-life. The point of view that the life of a human organism begins at conception is based on biology, not religion. The point of view that all human organisms are equal and that it's wrong to take the life of any innocent human being is a philosophical and ethical point of view which is not specific to any religion.
(1) It's all about where people draw the line. It's okay (and highly expected of you) to prevent the life of others by not trying to spread every 'seed' in your body. It's okay to use contraception (to most people) whether 'natural' or 'unnatural' to prevent the life of a human being. Yet so many people draw the line where the sperm meets the egg. And a lot of people draw the line after that.
(2) To me, it's a question of how much the fetus suffers, and also a question of whether or not the fetus has progressed past being "just some biological material", like that of a sperm cell and ovum. Where do you draw the line? Would it be as soon as the sperm meets the egg? If so, why draw it there? What is special about that point in the development of the human being, that says to you "it's too late to prevent this potential human being from becoming a human being"?
@Pulseczar1 There is no such thing as a potential human being. Either something is a living organism of the species homo sapiens, or it isn't, and if it isn't, it will never become one on its own.
I'm not going to argue semantics with you. So, let me rephrase the question. What is special about that point (fertilization) in the development of the human being, that says to you "it is now too late to stop the developmental process of this human material (this zygote)"?
if she thinks she is grown up enought to have sex then yes i think she is grown up enough to do the right thing for the baby and not take the easy way out just because she did not use protection.
that is what i'm trying to say if she thinks she is old enough to have sex and she gets pregnant why should the baby have to pay with its life when she thinks she is grown up enough to have sex
But whether the girl _thinks_ she's grown or not has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not she is grown and mature according to what most grown people consider 'grown and mature'. My point is: Can you blame a person for not being mentally mature before being sexually mature? - considering most people would say that kids are not mentally mature when they reach sexual maturity.
Then she can have the baby and give the baby up for adoption. Don't take her maturity level out on the baby by killing it its not the baby's fault. She can go on with her childhood when she gives the baby up.
it says in the bible thal shal not kill, I might have spelled it wrong i don't read the bible, but if people believe that then why do they think abortions are not murder
ROFL. Okay. Again, I'm not going to argue about what the words 'baby' and 'human being' refer to. It is not pertinent to the discussion. The meaning of words are completely arbitrary, like assigning variable X equal to 1.5.
Conception is the very beginning of a human organism's life. That alone makes it special enough, and preemptively, artificially stopping human development at any point afterward is the taking of an innocent human life.
Oh, and call it what it is. "Stopping development" is killing.
It's definitely killing, but the word "killing" tends to carry negative connotations that it's bad. Which is why I avoid using the word. We kill plants, animals, insects, cells in our bodies, etc. all the time. Killing is not necessarily bad, but people often forget that.
I'm not going to argue with you over when a human being becomes a human being. So, for argument-sake, assuming a human being's life begins at conception, why is it important to not end the life there?
I'll go ahead and grant you as well for argument sake that it's taking an innocent human life to abort right after conception. What is wrong with that? How is that zygote losing, suffering, or missing out any more than anyone whose life has ever been prevented due to abstinence/contraception?
@valerie374 I don't know what this is in response to, but it doesn't answer the question that people have been avoiding responding to, which I have asked so many times that it's being flagged as spam. Of course, people generally just abuse the anti-spam system and flag anything they don't agree with as spam.
How is the zygote losing, suffering, or missing out any more than anyone whose life has ever been prevented due to abstinence/contraception?
@valerie374 It may be genetically human, but so is my liver. A fetus in its first trimester does not have a brain so therefore does not possess consciousness and doesn't feel pain. It is not a person. Human cells, by themselves, do not constitute a human being/person.
@jlabrecque1 Your liver is not a human organism distinct from you. A fetus is a distinct human organism, not a part of the mother, and not the mother's property.
@valerie374 True, my liver example was made to illustrate that just because something is genetically human, doesn't make it a person. The abortion issues isn't "Is it the women's right to her own body?" but "Is the fetus a person worthy of the right to life?" And without a developed brain that can feel pain and bring on the beginning of consciousness, I don't see how a first trimester fetus can be considered a person...
@jlabrecque1 A child doesn't have a fully developed brain. And anesthesia acts upon the brain to keep it from feeling pain. So by your criteria for personhood, children and those under full anesthesia are not persons.
There is also historical precedent that every time we've excluded some group or another of living human beings as full persons, we've been wrong. It would be insane to insist that the same wrong thing is right this time.
@valerie374 I should have clarified my position. Its not a fully developed brain, but one that can feel pain and create at least a limited consciousness. This happens half way through the pregnancy, therefore first trimester fetuses do not feel pain or are conscious of being terminated.
@jlabrecque1 So by that logic, it's okay to kill anyone as long as they're unconscious.
First of all, you have no evidence that a fetus has absolutely no consciousness until 20 weeks. In fact, the medical evidence indicates that feti are capable of experiencing distress as early as 16 weeks, as fetal stress tests are performed that early.
Secondly, even if a fetus had no consciousness, that's no justification at all for killing.
From the moment the sperm hits the egg it is a human being and I hope that all you women out there who have had a abortion, I hope you feel good about killing your babies cause i think you are the lowest thing on earth for killing your won blood just because you were not grown up enough to prevent it from happening!!
@valerie374 I have to agree with you although I am christian. I think that having moral beliefs, and knowing what is right and what is wrong, and that taking another life of anyone (including those that are weaker and cannot defend themselves) should be on everyones mind. It's really unfortunate and sad in which the world we live in and just how many people consider it a different matter. Keep sticking up for what you believe in!
i was recently told i am the 4th oldest technacally... i though i was third... turns out my dads old wife secretly had an abortion... so my dad left her and now im her with my actual mom... i was gonna have 2 brothers 1 sister.... but no...
I mean, unless your situation is extreme.....well not extreme, but like, you got raped out of nowhere, you really shouldn't get an abortion. It's not our fault that certain people decided to be stupid and the girl ends up pregnant and then goes like "but I don't want kids, I want an abortion".
hey lets go have sex no dnt worry about useing a comdon no im not on the pill oh dnt worry if i get pregs il just take my sick ass down to the clinic and have an abortion.. come on people this is sick every day so many little babies died and how by the hands of the people that made them,dnt want a baby dnt have sex.. or if not plez we live in an age of birth control there is no need 4 this.RIP ALL THESE LITTLE SOULS.
I Pray for the almost 52 million children who have been aborted so far in the United States....Life is a miracle & a gift from God...Save the babies...Gerard Paul
the you pray for the day that the gorvernment starts legislating morals. Eating meat takes grain away from starving people to feed our cattle let outlaw meat to save lives ok? Educate yourself before you speaking moron
no "warden" start passing laws for "peoples own good" and its all down hill. Freedom is all inclusive even if you think its wrong your opinion only counts in your own life not in anyone elses. Maybe you should mind your own business.
I have just as much right to post an opinion as you do. You got into my business when you responded to my comment.
I stand behind my comment that I hope that the day will come when there are no more abortions in this land. True, you can't "legislate morality" - the blight of abortion will stop only when people see the light... as I hope you do one day. I don't intend to argue this point any further with you.
holy:They've kept the remains of aborted fetuses?! Hell no!! Its all a make believe guilt trip for any womne who aborted. Look how they perpetuate the guilt, and how much they LOVE doing it. They would die making sure a women feels guilt. Cant wait to see them all in hell.
People SHOULD feel guilty for murder. Duh. That's the whole point. People NEED to start feeling guilty for doing things that are wrong -- no one feels guilty for anything anymore.
No one forces anyone to have kids, smartie. Surely, you must know that kids come as a result of sex. Don't want kids? Don't have sex. No one's forcing children on anyone -- people just can't seem to control their friggin' sex drives. I bet there'd be fewer STD's, too. Go figure.
That is strange. I don't understand who would have an abortion that far along. If you feel that what's coming out of your deserves a funeral, then that's just ridiculous.
Please, that is totally uncalled for. Yes, I find his views on abortion repugnant, but this isn't helping us out as pro-lifers. Jesus called to fight evil with love. Let's pray for Obama's conversion of heart. Obama may not be as hard-hearted he wants us to think he is. I hope the LORD can work through President Obama.
There is no "Vicar of Christ" in the Bible. There is no need for a human earthly conduit between Christ and his followers on Earth. It says nothing of this in the Bible, Jesus said nothing of it. The Catholic Church was founded by Constantine to control that growing part of the population...in a similar way, Mohammed founded Islam to bring about a powerful nation to conquer Arabia. The Catholic Church claim the Disciple Peter as it's first Pope in much the same way Islam claim Jesus as a prophet
No it is in the Bible. It's where Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom of Heaven in Matt. 16 v13:16 after Jesus asked who do men say that He is. Then He asked His diciples who they say He is and Peter says "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God". It's clearly in Scripture. I also asked you to take this debate somewhere else. Message me if you have to. This video is for pro-life so I would rather discuss this in messages.
There were already 26 Popes before Constantine I was even born. Are you saying that the Popes before the Constantine era were not Catholic? lol The significance of Constantine the Great is that he made Christianity the religion of the state so the persecution of practicing Christians would end. Google "List of Popes". Constantine was never a Pope.
There is no "Vicar of Christ" in the Bible. There is no need for a human earthly conduit between Christ and his followers on Earth. It says nothing of this in the Bible, Jesus said nothing of it. The Catholic Church was founded by Constantine to control that growing part of the population...in a similar way, Mohammed founded Islam to bring about a powerful nation to conquer Arabia. The Catholic Church claim the Disciple Peter as it's first Pope in much the same way Islam claim Jesus as a prophet
So, you are going to pretend that I didn't just as you if the 26 Popes before Constantine I was born were not Catholic? Because I clearly asked you a question and what you did was cut and paste exactly what you had posted before and I was commenting on. lol Are you a robot or can you respond to unplanned questions. To show us that you are human and not a spambot, please respond directly to my question about the first 26 Popes. If you are unfamiliar, Google "List of Popes" before responding. Thx!
By posting here about the fact that there is no "need" for a conduit between Christ and His followers on Earth, you are actually taking the role of a conduit between Christ and human beings. You see, God doesn't "need" to do anything. He CHOOSES to use people in His plan of Salvation. In that way, He CHOSE to create a visible head for His Church on Earth and that first visible head was Peter. There has been an unbroken line of succession from Peter to Benedict XVI.
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Well looky here homos.....abortion helps get rid of the could be scum (humans) and anyone who thinks that god will do anything for your worthless souls....and to think your really saying that your "GOD" will take the souls of the children.....oh boy your wrong....They are NOT HUMAN beings and therefore have no soul...Thank you and have a wonderfull time wasting your precious Lifetime at church.
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firework1316 4 weeks ago
GOD meant it when he said "Thou shall NOT kill" and will visit a horrifying punishment upon the people of this age. THANK YOU FR> FRANK for defending those who are unjustly put to death and for exposing evil
MsCynthia56 6 months ago
@MsCynthia56 God said to "go forth and multiply." Are you doing that right now?
mylittlekittens 6 months ago
@mylittlekittens This is one of the stupidest replies I have ever gotten. FIRSTLY how do you know whether I am reproducing or NOT? Secondly, if I am not married, I am not supposed to be doing that. And even if I were married one does not reproduce CONSTANTLY, ................whereas "THOU SHALL NOT KILL" is a definate, all the time commandment.
MsCynthia56 6 months ago
@MsCynthia56 God said "go forth and multiply" and you should try it! He meant EVERYONE.
mylittlekittens 6 months ago
@mylittlekittens I have ALREADY ANSWERED you!!!!! How do you know that I'm NOT??? ALSO you are supposed to be married FIRST!!!!!!!!! FIND ME A HUSBAND FIRST HUNNY--You are supposed to confirne you physical relations within MARRIAGE so quit repeating yourself
MsCynthia56 6 months ago
@MsCynthia56 Can't find a guy? Have you tried a dating service?
mylittlekittens 6 months ago
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@MsCynthia56 says - GOD meant it when he said "Thou shall NOT kill" and will visit a horrifying punishment upon the people of this age.
l I love it that you do what your god "says' because of fear of punishment!! You religiotards crack me up!
geezusispan 4 months ago
Will Father Frank now be giving out free funerals to families that can not afford to bury their family members with "dignity."
mylittlekittens 6 months ago
A very special and beautiful funeral for three little innocent children brutally murdered by the Abortion Industry. Just remember....More than merely take the life of an innocent child, abortion abuses, beats, and robs women. And then leaves them lying on the side of the road to suffer alone. Now I wish to make this very loud and clear.... From the very moment of Conception, the child has a Soul and is a living breathing person, now matter how small, even only a few cells small.
Lugmag001 7 months ago
@Lugmag001 Is that true, an embryo is a "breathing" person at the moment of conception?
mylittlekittens 7 months ago
Thank you, Fr. Pavone, for giving dignity to these unborn innocents' lives. Pro-lifers, learn the TRUTH about Abortion & Choice. Most abortions are unwanted or coerced. Many are forced. Learn what you can do about it. Go to theunchoice(dot)com & clinicquotes(dot)com.
n4kma 7 months ago
Eww picking trash out of the dumpster and wasting money on burying it...money that could have fed REAL hungry kids!! Wwjd? I think he'd feed starving kids with that money.
pmsluv2fmyts 9 months ago
If they were killed by abortion, how did Franky get his hands on them?
Who named them ? It sure as hell would NOT be the women who aborted them!!
Smells a lot like bullshit!l
I especially enjoy that they were buried together, in a Styrofoam cooler....
jesusisaklingon 10 months ago
@jesusisaklingon Show some respect for the dead. At least there are cating souls in this world who don't shut their eyes to the suffering of this world. At least Fr. Pavone gave them a burial, and trust me those babies deserve much better.
"How did he get his hands on them?" Probably some neglectful abortionist threw the bodies in a dumpster which is usually what happens after the aborton.
TheRemainingFaithful 9 months ago
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Dumpster diving with FrFreakazoid! hahahahahahahah
This whole drama queen show is hilarious!
jesusisaklingon 9 months ago
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The woman is more important than the embryo..THAT is obvious, without her they both die. If she feels, thinks, guesses that NOW is not the right time to give birth then, she shouldn't. Nature made it that way, literally dropped in her lap. In a real biological way it takes many years to grow a woman, only a few weeks to grow another embryo.
jesusisaklingon 10 months ago
Christians are people who are trying to get into heaven by telling other people what NOT to do!
jesusisaklingon 10 months ago
@jesusisaklingon They tell them what not to do so they can get into heaven as well. If I saw a child about to burn himself playing with fire would you condemn me for telling him to stop?
TheRemainingFaithful 9 months ago
Are there real babies here? How did he know if they were Catholic? Just wondering?
mylittlekittens 1 year ago
@mylittlekittens Catholics just like to impress by acting stupid. They probably raped the girls and made them abort the babies.
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
@PALOMITA694 O_O
mylittlekittens 1 year ago
@mylittlekittens Cute! >^..^< cat on your picture I like it!
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
@PALOMITA694 Yeah, this publicity stunt was a bunch of crap!!
mylittlekittens 1 year ago
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PALOMITA694 1 year ago
@PALOMITA694 My cat has one eye missing. We (me and kids) were laughing last night . Remembering when the shelter put me through the adoption process, 5 years ago, then approved me, and then when we were leaving they would not take the fee. They would not charge me, because it seems no one wanted her. Don't get me started on cat stories, they are like cute kids. Kids are actually harder. Having pets helps the family get along, really nice addition to a home!!
mylittlekittens 1 year ago
@mylittlekittens I understand you cats are unique they are like angels sent to make our lives happy. And the best thing about them is that they give you unconditional love. I have loved all my cats. They are like family members to me.
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
@PALOMITA694 Cannot live without them! They give GOOD VIBES!
mylittlekittens 1 year ago
@mylittlekittens I am glad to know that other people think the same way I do about cats. Thank you for taking care of cats. You will be rewarded >^;;^<.
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
This is so sad. Abortion should be banned. There is a living child inside a mother, it should be considered murder to kill a baby inside the womb, or even when only its hhead is in the womb. Yes, I said that. People have partial abortions, the baby is born breach, and then killed while the head is in the womb. The fact that if a 2 week old child is killed, the parents, if found guilty, go to jail, but a baby can be killed in the womb, is wrong.
The pastor is great to do this funeral!!!!
Blossombabe1104 1 year ago
THIS IS THE BIGGEST PUBLICITY STUNT EVER, AND IT'S DISGUSTING!!!! HE'S NOT SPENDING THE MONEY SPENT ON THIS PHONY STUNT TO HELP CONSOLE THE MOTHERS WHO HAD TO MAKE THE DECISION SO THAT IN THE FUTURE THEY MIGHT BE FINANCIALLY FIT ENOUGH TO KEEP THEIR BABIES. ALSO, HE'S NOT GIVING A FUNERAL LIKE THIS TO THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO DIE FROM POVERTY AND MALNUTRITION EVERY YEAR.
THIS IS JUST A COMMERCIAL FOR PRIEST FOR LIFE, AND HE IS BENEFITTING FROM SOMETHING HE CONSIDERS AS MURDER!!!!
1989DaVinci 1 year ago
So sad, but thank you for giving those children a proper funeral.
rtheundying 1 year ago 3
If a Mother has decided she made a mistake by getting pregnant then she has options! She can give the baby up for adoption! She doesn't have to destroy that life! Who are we to decide who has the right to develop or not develop or live or die? The argument it's "her body" is crazy! It's her body absolutely...but there's another body growing inside her body! She has no more the right to kill that body as does she a two year old child! I think it's an abomination to humanity! Innocence destroyed!
baldwin1e 1 year ago
In my opinion there's no difference in aborting an unborn baby and killing a 1 month old baby that is already born! Both are growing humans! A mother that can do either has very serious moral issues or has been brainwashed by society into the thinking this is ok! The very fabric of our moral society is being torn to shreds! I don't think it is anyone's right to take another life when nature has started the course of a "new life" at whatever stage! It is not our choice to make!
baldwin1e 1 year ago
Individual freedom???? It's a "freedom" to kill an innocent unborn baby? Wow...such freedom is morally irresponsible! How is it ever a person's right to end the life of an innocent fetus??? Anything that causes another living being to stop living is murder! Taking something from it's life before it can finish growth is murdering that baby's chance for life! It's a living baby growing inside! "Fetal brain activity" has been measured at as early as 40 days of gestation! References available!!
baldwin1e 1 year ago
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PALOMITA694 1 year ago
all 3 babies were in the same box?
cutieface2007 1 year ago
How did they know about these babies???
This seems to be more of a publicity stunt than a real serious service.
mariannatexas 1 year ago
GOD hear me and make me an angel of death and i will send these stupid bitches to hell where they belong AMEN
niueanlaho 1 year ago
How morbid and unsacred to video a funeral for publicity sake. disgusting and perverse.
tatertotsmcc 1 year ago
An important thing about basic human rights like life- nobody has to be worthy. Nobody earns the right to live. It is inalienable, and every living human being is automatically entitled.
valerie374 1 year ago 4
why on gods earth would you open that coffin
MsBigweasel 1 year ago
children are not fully devoloped so shouldn't killing them be considered just stopping their development as well? abortion is just sick!!!!
rachelg108 1 year ago
@rachelg108 Children have developed brain that can feel pain, think, and emote. First trimester fetuses do not. You are stopping the development of a mass of genetically human cells, no different than an organ, not the life of a conscious being...
jlabrecque1 1 year ago
Lord, please forgive these mothers for what they have done and bring healing and comfort to them as they are probably hurting very badly. I ask this all through Jesus Christ Our Lord. Amen.
JMMoosey 1 year ago
Rest in Peace.
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It is mind boggling how ppl can justify the killing of millions of unborn living human beings. They use poverty, overpopulation(myth),abuse,homelessness(even though many 'chose' to be homeless), sentience, convenience and a plethora of other 'EXCUSES'. The fact remains that these unborn are human, they are alive and abortion kills an unborn living human being.
angelshoulders 1 year ago
bigkahkistan- fyi catholics aren't fundamentalists
southernglam09 2 years ago
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I wonder if he holds funerals for miscarried babies as well. Probably not, since he, like most fundamentalist Christians, is a hypocritical ass.
Bigkahkistan 2 years ago
Legal Abortion Death: Donna Heim, 20
Donna Heim, age 20, went to Her Medical Clinic accompanied by her sister. Donna told staff that she had asthma, and she noted this on her forms when she filled them out. Despite this pre-existing condition, a nurse anesthetist administered general anesthesia for her safe and legal abortion.
jesusisbIing 2 years ago
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For those giving me thumbs down where I've asked the following question, how about answering the question?
How is the zygote losing, suffering, or missing out any more than anyone whose life has ever been prevented due to abstinence/contraception?
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
what is abortion
MegaArtGirl 2 years ago
Although I love his cause, I don't like how he uses his own Pro-life prayers for Mass and not the pescribed texts.
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago
"But a person has an abortion, the baby has no choice or chance at life, rather the mother makes that choice. "
Not a single person who has ever lived, or who will ever live, is given a choice as to whether or not they live. A lot of people think horribly of this world and wish they had never been born. But that choice to live was made for them.
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
I'm in agreement with these preast. Amen.
wordofadvice1 2 years ago
This isn't about god i don't beleive in god and i'm agaisnt aborations you are killing an icconcent thing that could have had the chance to live
dxmoe 2 years ago
EXACTLY everyone has the right to their opinion. EVERYONE has the right to their own choices. Thank you for making my point FOR me. I am thankful the supreme court still agrees with us both. Thank you for making my point for me.
mymasterskitten 2 years ago
Well...except for the unborn child of course.
dryanmorr 2 years ago
as soon as an embryo speaks up I will be more than happy to rethink my opinion. Until that day walking talking people (not masses of dividing cells) will always take priority in my book.
mymasterskitten 2 years ago
...an infant can't speak up for themselves, some who are senile can't speak for themselves, some mentally challenged can' t speak for themselves...etc.
Talking about dividing cells, that doesn't stop when we leave the womb.
dryanmorr 2 years ago
Muslims I am sure would feel more comfortable if I would don a burka but I am not changing my lifestyle for their religion or yours. I have tried in several states to have my tubes tied. No doctor will preform it because I have no children. I have since had 2 abortions in 14 years of marriage and I am grateful it was available to me since others denied me options. I refuse to use my body for an incubator because people like you think I have no other value in life but a brood mare.
mymasterskitten 2 years ago
What?! This isn't about religion (nor did I speak of religion or of a God), not really discussing your 'lifestyle,' its not my business. I am speaking up for the aborted children who do not have a choice that you (or whomever) makes for them.
dryanmorr 2 years ago
Should I ever be striken with dementia, alzhemiers, or any other debilitating disease.(IE. the me everyone knows no longer exsists) I would hope some angel of mercy would put a pillow over my face. Thats my opinion were all allowed to have one. The difference between me and you is that you want to restrict individual freedom on a moral basis.
mymasterskitten 2 years ago
The difference there is, you can that choice if you should happen to have a debilitating disease. You made that choice to your body, nothing wrong with that. But a person has an abortion, the baby has no choice or chance at life, rather the mother makes that choice.
I do want to restrict individual freedom on a moral basis, but remember, murder, robbery, etc. still illegal due to a moral basis.
dryanmorr 2 years ago
Thank you for making my point I agree totally. My "lifestyle" is none of anyone's business. People like you choose to make it your business however.Vegans say we need to stop eating animals, they need to fuck off. Liberals want us to give up our guns, they need to fuck off. Everyone gets on their soap box about something poking their nose into something thats none of their buisness in the personal lives of others. I'm sure you have you "pet peeve" issue this is mine. Its none of your business.
mymasterskitten 2 years ago
Apparently you don't get it. Abortion is not a lifestyle, it is terminating an unborn child. Just like if one had a lifestyle that of a Nazi, KKK member, even a crazy Christian/Muslim, etc etc etc, this is America, stupidity is allowed, but once they start harming/killing those they hate, is where it crosses the line.
And abortion does just that, destroying a human life. That is the problem at point here.
dryanmorr 2 years ago
There is no brain activity in utero until sometime near the end of the second trimester. If you have no brain activity you have no life. That goes for fetus and adults. There is no life present to destroy. To propose that there is life before brain activity begins is as crazy as saying there is life after brain activity stops. Thats why I am against partial birth abortion but at 6 to 8 weeks come on get real. You don't seem to buy into religious dogma so whats the deal?
mymasterskitten 2 years ago
Under your thinking then, than the number of babies killed after the 2nd trimester is about 156,000 (2005), oh, and that is after 13 weeks.
dryanmorr 2 years ago
Get real?! I am very real, I see our country/world legalize the killing of innocent babies who even you consider life after 6-8 weeks and I/we are the one(s) that want to suppress woman's rights and not to allow women to make their own choices....as if we are the 'male chauvinistic pigs' that you portray us to be...that is by far from the truth, the truth is the protection of unborn babies and their rights.
dryanmorr 2 years ago
The fact is I have addressed all of your points while you have address none of my arguements. You continue talking in circles about killing children when just yesterday I argued this same subject. You seem to have nothing more to say on the subject. I don't have the time or patience to walk you through it again so this will be my last post. If you can't see the logic in my arguement I suggest you have a catscan to check for a tumor pressing against the cognative processing center of your brain.
mymasterskitten 2 years ago
No you didn't. Go through the posts, I have addressed your posts, you have constantly changed the subject, I replied to your posts and than you turned to another point without .. You even changed your answers, from "until an embryo speaks up..." to life starts with brain activity.
But, nonetheless, I suggest you re-read this and think about it for a while.
dryanmorr 2 years ago
If the baby has a heart it is alive okay.
Wolfbloodvamps171 2 years ago
"I do want to restrict individual freedom on a moral basis, but remember, murder, robbery, etc. still illegal due to a moral basis."
The primary reason these things are illegal is for the government to protect the people from these things. However, if abortion were illegal, it would not be about protection for one's self and one's dependents. It would be a means to impose moral/religious beliefs onto others.
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
Isn't the government 'imposing' its moral/religious beliefs on me saying that I can't kill someone or rob a persons house?
Should we choose not to protect an unborn child? Does the unborn child have any rights? With today's laws, no.
dryanmorr 2 years ago
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Pulseczar1 2 years ago
dryanmorr:
(1) No, as a collective -- a society -- people decided a very long time ago that they want protection from murder, robbery, etc. So, they created laws against such things and consequences for breaking such laws, to deter people from doing these things (protection for members of society), and also to enact vengeance (though this is debatable).
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
Abortion was part of those laws to.
dryanmorr 2 years ago
(2) It's about protection for oneself and one's dependents. If people were choosing to abort other people's babies, then that would likely be a problem. Because someone is deciding for someone else that they will not be having the baby. Any apparently un-justified inflicted suffering to a fetus would also be a problem. That's one reason why there is currently a limitation as to how late in the pregnancy one can have an abortion.
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
And how many fathers and mothers are forcing their children to abort their baby against the woman's will? Worse yet, how many men are forcing their wife/girlfriend to have an abortion against their will? Who gets to decide how late into the pregnancy is too late?
dryanmorr 2 years ago
"(2) It's about protection for oneself and one's dependents"
It's obvious that abortion is not protection for one's dependants. Quite the opposite, it's an agression for one's dependants.
excelmaster7 2 years ago
excelmaster7:
I wasn't saying that abortion is about protection for oneself and one's dependents. I was talking about why murder and robbery are illegal.
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
Not all murders are illegal.
Intrauterine murder is legal.
Just because the victim is inside an uterus...
excelmaster7 2 years ago
(1) Well, some people don't consider abortion "murder", just like some don't consider deaths resulting from warfare as "murder", and some don't consider capital punishment as "murder", and some don't consider death by accident as "murder", and some don't consider suicide as "murder", and some don't consider assisted suicide as helping with "murder", and no one considers death by disease as "murder". Depends on what you consider to be murder. I don't consider abortion to be murder.
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
Then what is it?
excelmaster7 2 years ago
Abortion is the killing of a fetus, and the removal of it from the uterus.
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
And racial purguing is the killing of jews, and the removal of them from Aryan Germany, so what?
At least you accept is a killing.
excelmaster7 2 years ago
excelmaster7:
There's a big difference that causes your analogy to fail. I consider killing fetuses about the equivalence of killing plants. I, however, don't consider killing Jews the equivalence of killing plants, because they are conscious, sentient human beings, rather than unconscious, _potential_ human beings.
Once again, you are begging the question, by trying to insinuate that abortion is murder without arguing _why_ it's "murder" -- how you _know_ it's murder.
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
Pulseczar1:
Yes, and Hitler considered killing jews about the equivalence of killing plants, too.
A fetus is unconscious? A fetus is not sentient? hehe...
excelmaster7 2 years ago
@Pulseczar1 Killing a human fetus is killing a living human, not comparable in the least to killing a plant.
valerie374 2 years ago
(2) You are begging the question. Whether or not abortion is immoral is what we are debating. Murder, by definition, is immoral. By you stating that abortion is murder, you are assuming, as a given, that which you are trying to prove.
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
No, you are trying to prove abortion is not murder.
excelmaster7 2 years ago
It's the same debate......
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
(3) It's also a pragmatic issue. Sometimes people are better off not living, if they are going to have a very diminished quality of life, and/or cause other people (such as their parents) to have a very diminished quality of life. The person who's life has ended before birth suffers the same amount as the people who were never even conceived because the sperm cell and ovum that would have resulted in these people never met.
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
Seriously... Sometimes they are better off not living???
You said it.
dryanmorr 2 years ago
@Pulseczar1 Not pragmatic. It's a moral judgment issue, as in what gives you the moral right to decide anyone else's life, even that of a fetus, is not worth living?
valerie374 2 years ago
(4) So, the question to end the fetus's life is only slightly more difficult than the question of whether or not to use contraception, unless you have religious beliefs that add difficulty. And there should be no laws based on religious (non-verifiable) beliefs, because that is pushing one's religion onto others, infringing religious freedom (which includes freedom from religion).
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
Far more difficult than contraception actually.
Sure, I have my religious beliefs about artificial contraception. But I would never impose my religious beliefs in this country, the point being made is this, the protection of the unborn, abortion destroys an unborn baby, therefore, we must protect the unborn child. Contraception, that is and should always be a personal belief.
dryanmorr 2 years ago
@Pulseczar1 There are atheists and agnostics who are also pro-life. The point of view that the life of a human organism begins at conception is based on biology, not religion. The point of view that all human organisms are equal and that it's wrong to take the life of any innocent human being is a philosophical and ethical point of view which is not specific to any religion.
valerie374 2 years ago 12
valerie374:
(1) It's all about where people draw the line. It's okay (and highly expected of you) to prevent the life of others by not trying to spread every 'seed' in your body. It's okay to use contraception (to most people) whether 'natural' or 'unnatural' to prevent the life of a human being. Yet so many people draw the line where the sperm meets the egg. And a lot of people draw the line after that.
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
valerie374:
(2) To me, it's a question of how much the fetus suffers, and also a question of whether or not the fetus has progressed past being "just some biological material", like that of a sperm cell and ovum. Where do you draw the line? Would it be as soon as the sperm meets the egg? If so, why draw it there? What is special about that point in the development of the human being, that says to you "it's too late to prevent this potential human being from becoming a human being"?
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
@Pulseczar1 There is no such thing as a potential human being. Either something is a living organism of the species homo sapiens, or it isn't, and if it isn't, it will never become one on its own.
valerie374 2 years ago
@valerie374
I'm not going to argue semantics with you. So, let me rephrase the question. What is special about that point (fertilization) in the development of the human being, that says to you "it is now too late to stop the developmental process of this human material (this zygote)"?
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
if she thinks she is grown up enought to have sex then yes i think she is grown up enough to do the right thing for the baby and not take the easy way out just because she did not use protection.
ladybug19791 2 years ago
Interesting. So you consider the 14 year old grown up enough if she considers herself grown up enough...
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
that is what i'm trying to say if she thinks she is old enough to have sex and she gets pregnant why should the baby have to pay with its life when she thinks she is grown up enough to have sex
ladybug19791 2 years ago
But whether the girl _thinks_ she's grown or not has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not she is grown and mature according to what most grown people consider 'grown and mature'. My point is: Can you blame a person for not being mentally mature before being sexually mature? - considering most people would say that kids are not mentally mature when they reach sexual maturity.
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
Then she can have the baby and give the baby up for adoption. Don't take her maturity level out on the baby by killing it its not the baby's fault. She can go on with her childhood when she gives the baby up.
ladybug19791 2 years ago
"Don't take her maturity level out on the baby by killing it"
How is the fetus losing, suffering, or missing out any more than anyone whose life has ever been prevented due to abstinence/contraception?
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
it says in the bible thal shal not kill, I might have spelled it wrong i don't read the bible, but if people believe that then why do they think abortions are not murder
ladybug19791 2 years ago
it is a baby as soon as it huts the egg duumbass. I realy hope you don't have kids cause if u do u would prob try to kill them
ladybug19791 2 years ago
ROFL. Okay. Again, I'm not going to argue about what the words 'baby' and 'human being' refer to. It is not pertinent to the discussion. The meaning of words are completely arbitrary, like assigning variable X equal to 1.5.
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
@Pulseczar1
Conception is the very beginning of a human organism's life. That alone makes it special enough, and preemptively, artificially stopping human development at any point afterward is the taking of an innocent human life.
Oh, and call it what it is. "Stopping development" is killing.
valerie374 2 years ago 14
It's definitely killing, but the word "killing" tends to carry negative connotations that it's bad. Which is why I avoid using the word. We kill plants, animals, insects, cells in our bodies, etc. all the time. Killing is not necessarily bad, but people often forget that.
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
I'm not going to argue with you over when a human being becomes a human being. So, for argument-sake, assuming a human being's life begins at conception, why is it important to not end the life there?
I'll go ahead and grant you as well for argument sake that it's taking an innocent human life to abort right after conception. What is wrong with that? How is that zygote losing, suffering, or missing out any more than anyone whose life has ever been prevented due to abstinence/contraception?
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
because no matter the size of the baby it's still a baby,it is still human.
ladybug19791 2 years ago
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@ladybug19791
So how about answering this question:
How is the zygote losing, suffering, or missing out any more than anyone whose life has ever been prevented due to abstinence/contraception?
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
@Pulseczar1 The same thing that's wrong with taking any other innocent person's life.
valerie374 1 year ago
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@valerie374 I don't know what this is in response to, but it doesn't answer the question that people have been avoiding responding to, which I have asked so many times that it's being flagged as spam. Of course, people generally just abuse the anti-spam system and flag anything they don't agree with as spam.
How is the zygote losing, suffering, or missing out any more than anyone whose life has ever been prevented due to abstinence/contraception?
Pulseczar1 1 year ago
i agree with you 100% valerie374
ladybug19791 2 years ago
@valerie374 It may be genetically human, but so is my liver. A fetus in its first trimester does not have a brain so therefore does not possess consciousness and doesn't feel pain. It is not a person. Human cells, by themselves, do not constitute a human being/person.
jlabrecque1 1 year ago
@jlabrecque1 Your liver is not a human organism distinct from you. A fetus is a distinct human organism, not a part of the mother, and not the mother's property.
valerie374 1 year ago
@valerie374 True, my liver example was made to illustrate that just because something is genetically human, doesn't make it a person. The abortion issues isn't "Is it the women's right to her own body?" but "Is the fetus a person worthy of the right to life?" And without a developed brain that can feel pain and bring on the beginning of consciousness, I don't see how a first trimester fetus can be considered a person...
jlabrecque1 1 year ago
@jlabrecque1 A child doesn't have a fully developed brain. And anesthesia acts upon the brain to keep it from feeling pain. So by your criteria for personhood, children and those under full anesthesia are not persons.
There is also historical precedent that every time we've excluded some group or another of living human beings as full persons, we've been wrong. It would be insane to insist that the same wrong thing is right this time.
valerie374 1 year ago
@valerie374 I should have clarified my position. Its not a fully developed brain, but one that can feel pain and create at least a limited consciousness. This happens half way through the pregnancy, therefore first trimester fetuses do not feel pain or are conscious of being terminated.
jlabrecque1 1 year ago
@jlabrecque1 So by that logic, it's okay to kill anyone as long as they're unconscious.
First of all, you have no evidence that a fetus has absolutely no consciousness until 20 weeks. In fact, the medical evidence indicates that feti are capable of experiencing distress as early as 16 weeks, as fetal stress tests are performed that early.
Secondly, even if a fetus had no consciousness, that's no justification at all for killing.
valerie374 1 year ago
From the moment the sperm hits the egg it is a human being and I hope that all you women out there who have had a abortion, I hope you feel good about killing your babies cause i think you are the lowest thing on earth for killing your won blood just because you were not grown up enough to prevent it from happening!!
ladybug19791 2 years ago
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"From the moment the sperm hits the egg it is a human being"
Way to backup your highly debatable claim.
"just because you were not grown up enough to prevent it from happening!!"
Recall that the average girl becomes capable of reproduction at age 14. Do you consider 14 year olds grown?
Pulseczar1 2 years ago
@valerie374 I have to agree with you although I am christian. I think that having moral beliefs, and knowing what is right and what is wrong, and that taking another life of anyone (including those that are weaker and cannot defend themselves) should be on everyones mind. It's really unfortunate and sad in which the world we live in and just how many people consider it a different matter. Keep sticking up for what you believe in!
millerfamily03 1 year ago
This is some silly shit. Seems like Father Fucktard needs to get a real job.
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UnplannedPregnancy 2 years ago
i was recently told i am the 4th oldest technacally... i though i was third... turns out my dads old wife secretly had an abortion... so my dad left her and now im her with my actual mom... i was gonna have 2 brothers 1 sister.... but no...
12rossja 2 years ago
Wow......poor children T^T
I mean, unless your situation is extreme.....well not extreme, but like, you got raped out of nowhere, you really shouldn't get an abortion. It's not our fault that certain people decided to be stupid and the girl ends up pregnant and then goes like "but I don't want kids, I want an abortion".
IxYamikoxA 2 years ago
hey lets go have sex no dnt worry about useing a comdon no im not on the pill oh dnt worry if i get pregs il just take my sick ass down to the clinic and have an abortion.. come on people this is sick every day so many little babies died and how by the hands of the people that made them,dnt want a baby dnt have sex.. or if not plez we live in an age of birth control there is no need 4 this.RIP ALL THESE LITTLE SOULS.
pickingmynose1 2 years ago
I Pray for the almost 52 million children who have been aborted so far in the United States....Life is a miracle & a gift from God...Save the babies...Gerard Paul
theprolifeguy 2 years ago
God bless you father
cornejo7777 2 years ago 3
I pray for the day when there is no more abortion in this land.
wardenphil 2 years ago 6
the you pray for the day that the gorvernment starts legislating morals. Eating meat takes grain away from starving people to feed our cattle let outlaw meat to save lives ok? Educate yourself before you speaking moron
mymasterskitten 2 years ago
Actually, YOUR comment sounds like something a moron would say.....
wardenphil 2 years ago
no "warden" start passing laws for "peoples own good" and its all down hill. Freedom is all inclusive even if you think its wrong your opinion only counts in your own life not in anyone elses. Maybe you should mind your own business.
mymasterskitten 2 years ago
I have just as much right to post an opinion as you do. You got into my business when you responded to my comment.
I stand behind my comment that I hope that the day will come when there are no more abortions in this land. True, you can't "legislate morality" - the blight of abortion will stop only when people see the light... as I hope you do one day. I don't intend to argue this point any further with you.
wardenphil 2 years ago
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What a bunch of sick freaks! They've kept the remains of aborted fetuses?!
HolyHellPreacher 3 years ago
holy:They've kept the remains of aborted fetuses?! Hell no!! Its all a make believe guilt trip for any womne who aborted. Look how they perpetuate the guilt, and how much they LOVE doing it. They would die making sure a women feels guilt. Cant wait to see them all in hell.
sueezee 2 years ago
People SHOULD feel guilty for murder. Duh. That's the whole point. People NEED to start feeling guilty for doing things that are wrong -- no one feels guilty for anything anymore.
These are babies, not globs of "potential-life."
kandbabies 2 years ago 3
people shouldnt be forced to have kids too many people in this world
andrea200830 2 years ago
No one forces anyone to have kids, smartie. Surely, you must know that kids come as a result of sex. Don't want kids? Don't have sex. No one's forcing children on anyone -- people just can't seem to control their friggin' sex drives. I bet there'd be fewer STD's, too. Go figure.
kandbabies 2 years ago
good point
andrea200830 2 years ago
Actually, some women do have the fetuses saved so that they can be provided with a funeral.
Progo35 2 years ago
That is strange. I don't understand who would have an abortion that far along. If you feel that what's coming out of your deserves a funeral, then that's just ridiculous.
missjpace 2 years ago
If you don't like to see this video then go to another site!
NestaCal 2 years ago
Nestcafe: I love this video.
HolyHellPreacher 2 years ago
Please, that is totally uncalled for. Yes, I find his views on abortion repugnant, but this isn't helping us out as pro-lifers. Jesus called to fight evil with love. Let's pray for Obama's conversion of heart. Obama may not be as hard-hearted he wants us to think he is. I hope the LORD can work through President Obama.
JMMoosey 3 years ago
Well said JMMoosey. That's what it means to be Christian, instead of calling Obama the anti-christ.
Guardianoftheunborn 3 years ago
The Pope is the Anti-Christ
arvydas0069 2 years ago
arvy, how is the Pope the Anti-Christ? It was the Catholic Church that Jesus founded. St. Peter was the 1st Pope so what you say is inaccurate.
Message me. This is the place for the discussion.
Guardianoftheunborn 2 years ago
There is no "Vicar of Christ" in the Bible. There is no need for a human earthly conduit between Christ and his followers on Earth. It says nothing of this in the Bible, Jesus said nothing of it. The Catholic Church was founded by Constantine to control that growing part of the population...in a similar way, Mohammed founded Islam to bring about a powerful nation to conquer Arabia. The Catholic Church claim the Disciple Peter as it's first Pope in much the same way Islam claim Jesus as a prophet
arvydas0069 2 years ago
No it is in the Bible. It's where Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom of Heaven in Matt. 16 v13:16 after Jesus asked who do men say that He is. Then He asked His diciples who they say He is and Peter says "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God". It's clearly in Scripture. I also asked you to take this debate somewhere else. Message me if you have to. This video is for pro-life so I would rather discuss this in messages.
Guardianoftheunborn 2 years ago
There were already 26 Popes before Constantine I was even born. Are you saying that the Popes before the Constantine era were not Catholic? lol The significance of Constantine the Great is that he made Christianity the religion of the state so the persecution of practicing Christians would end. Google "List of Popes". Constantine was never a Pope.
1Catholic2theCore 2 years ago
There is no "Vicar of Christ" in the Bible. There is no need for a human earthly conduit between Christ and his followers on Earth. It says nothing of this in the Bible, Jesus said nothing of it. The Catholic Church was founded by Constantine to control that growing part of the population...in a similar way, Mohammed founded Islam to bring about a powerful nation to conquer Arabia. The Catholic Church claim the Disciple Peter as it's first Pope in much the same way Islam claim Jesus as a prophet
arvydas0069 2 years ago
So, you are going to pretend that I didn't just as you if the 26 Popes before Constantine I was born were not Catholic? Because I clearly asked you a question and what you did was cut and paste exactly what you had posted before and I was commenting on. lol Are you a robot or can you respond to unplanned questions. To show us that you are human and not a spambot, please respond directly to my question about the first 26 Popes. If you are unfamiliar, Google "List of Popes" before responding. Thx!
1Catholic2theCore 2 years ago
By posting here about the fact that there is no "need" for a conduit between Christ and His followers on Earth, you are actually taking the role of a conduit between Christ and human beings. You see, God doesn't "need" to do anything. He CHOOSES to use people in His plan of Salvation. In that way, He CHOSE to create a visible head for His Church on Earth and that first visible head was Peter. There has been an unbroken line of succession from Peter to Benedict XVI.
1Catholic2theCore 2 years ago 3
rest in peace baby angels!!!
cherrynskittlez08 3 years ago 2
R.I.P. baby angels
baog36 3 years ago
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Well looky here homos.....abortion helps get rid of the could be scum (humans) and anyone who thinks that god will do anything for your worthless souls....and to think your really saying that your "GOD" will take the souls of the children.....oh boy your wrong....They are NOT HUMAN beings and therefore have no soul...Thank you and have a wonderfull time wasting your precious Lifetime at church.
Deth Sentinel 666
dethsentinel666 3 years ago
you are a blind slave
210klewis38 3 years ago
actually if anything im free from your gods tyrranny
dethsentinel666 3 years ago
poor children.they didnt even have a chance at life.but the lord givith and the lord takith
billybong3 3 years ago