When you fire a "Cap and Ball" Revolver, a technique after firing is to lift the gun up to where the barrel is pointed straight up (as if you were exaggerating the recoil) to let the remnants of the primer fall out of the way of the cylinder. Great Video! I own one of these aswell, and a unnamed italian replica of a 1851 Navy fighter in .44.
Nice Pistol, personally I still think Remington made a better gun at the time but never the less; Its always interesting all these export models Colt made, they seem better then the domestic.
I love the look of that gun. I had a 1851 colt navy that i traded for a Harpers ferry .58 cal. I'm going to have to get another one one of these days. Also I'm sure you know this but you can get a replacement tip for that powder flask that holds 15 grains which is enough for that .36. That way you don't have to measure it out by hand every time.
If you insist. Pistols in general sound quite a lot like other pistols while rifles sound quite a lot like other rifles. Outside of movies and video games, of course. Special effects to make the sounds more unique and memorable are required in those mediums to help the audience know different weapons are being used. Actual gunshot recordings are far less dramatic, as you see here.
The 1851 Navy only put out about 88 foot pounds of energy, thats half as much as a .22 lr yet some how it had stopping power. Was it the Round Ball design?
I live in France and this is the only gun you can get without needing a permit or hunters license , and i was told it was one of the primary handguns used to wipe out the native Americans!
I have a 1851 Navy, and I love it! last time out shooting, I broke my nipple wrench, while cleaning it, bummer deal. it sure is a lot of fun to shoot, mine happens to be quite accurate too, so much more fun than my other hand guns
cool but u should shoot one-handed like they did back in the old west instead of that two-handed post-WWII grip. FYI back when that weapon was in production if a gunslinger wanted to steady their aim, they would grip their wrist but they only kept one hand on the gun at all times...
@Foxtrot323 I shoot how I'm comfortable. I've tried holding my wrist when shooting my Model 29 - (the Dirty Harry stance) and it does little for recoil control but it is a bit easier on the wrist. A one-handed grip on a large pistol like an N-frame with target grips feels a bit awkward to me.
That is a beautiful gun my friend! Our very own iron-clad bushranger and folk hero Ned Kelly used one of these in his final showdown before being caught.
gorgeous pistol. I started with the black rifles and auto pistols as a younger man, now i'm going backwars in time, currently into milsurp and black powder :) I still love my AK's and Glocks don't get me wrong, but these are history you can hold
@CrazySoldier31 1851. Read the full comment when I said 1855 - a reference to the Rollin White patent on a new cylinder design completely unrelated to this revolver.
@Scarletsm0ke I shoot with wads - easier to work with and they serve the same purpose. The most shots I've put through this at one time was around 18 - so cleanup isn't a big concern. I was using Goex Pinnacle for this video but I've since switched to proper FFFg blackpowder which has been far easier to measure and meters properly from my Colt flask.
@mario3311991 I imagine loading through the rear of the cylinder as we're accustomed to today was rather weird when Rollin White patented his bored-through cylinder design in 1855.
@DrakeGmbH was to weird for colt at the time. someone at colt must have gotten fired over that rather embarassing blunder, once they realized what had happened.
@JuanMars10 yes, there are two companies that offer conversion cylinders,R&D and Kirst. Just Google "cap and ball conversion cylinder" and you should find what you want. I have the R&D for my 58' Remington to fire .45 colt. works great and gets a lot of attention at the range.
@hibrian9 At maximum load with a good powder, it can reach a nice 310 Joules with a round ball of 9.5mm and 5.5 gramms thrown at 335 m/s. It requires no more shots than a standard 9mm (FMJ).
@pianoguy98 This pistol is .36 caliber. Blackpowder has a smoother pressure curve than smokeless powder so felt recoil and muzzle velocity are less than a comparable smokeless load. These were loaded with about 17gr of FFFg Goex powder which gives a muzzle velocity in the 750-800fps range.
@victorwongvw There is a possibility of chain-fire if you do not use grease or wads. Wads are a bit easier to deal with so that's what I've been using. If the balls have a proper fit in the cylinder - evidenced by the shaved ring of lead when they are seated - the risk of chain fire is very low. Be sure to use tightly fitting caps as well to prevent a chain fire from the nipple end.
@saj12100 If that were the case it would be easier to swap cylinders. The barrel wedge is very hard to remove on my revolver so I only do so for cleaning.
Does the 1851 have the nipple buttons between cylinders to lock the hammer so all 6 chambers can be filled? My 1860 does, but I do not know if the 1851 does. Thanks.
@RabbitusMaximus Yes, the 1851 has safety pins between the nipples. The notch in the hammer face rests on these pins and keeps the cylinder from rotating until the hammer is cocked.
@Vlaxerman343 im pretty sure black powder guns arent considered firearms so minors may purchase them buy i trully am not sure so dont take my word for it
Well I guess it's true, what the song "The Devil's Right Hand" says...
"My very first pistol was a cap-and-ball Colt; shoot as fast as lightning but it loads a mite slow.... It loads a mite slow and I soon found out, in can get you into trouble but it can't get you out."
@joex321 Depends on your local laws. Blackpowder weapons aren't considered firearms and therefore don't need to be transferred through FFL's. If your local laws have no specific restrictions - you can have one shipped to your door. A conversion cylinder is not a firearm, it's a part, so it also would not require an FFL transfer. If your local laws require licenses for ownership - you would likely be in violation if you constructed a cartridge revolver in this manner without a proper license.
@Yuttmonster Around 17gr. Recently I bought a Colt-type powder flask with adjustable dispenser. I've got it set to throw about 20-21gr of powder. I also switched from the Goex Pinnacle substitute to Goex FFFg black powder and it's been working much better.
@Yuttmonster I can't say with any degree of certainty. The paperwork that came with my revolver recommended 15-25gr of FFFg for round balls. The charge was reduced somewhat for conical bullets due to the longer projectile.
@soixe1997 Not yet. I was on the fence about buying a Cimarron Walker about a month ago but ended up putting the money toward an 1892 Hartford in .45 Colt. A Walker is still on my 'to-do' list, along with a Schofield.
@soixe1997 Cimarron guns are made by Uberti in Italy and assembled and finished by Cimarron in Texas. Same basic parts but with a better fit and finish. My Cimarron Model P is the only gun I have with a Texas roll mark.
@DrakeGmbH You won't regret the '92. I have one in .357 and it is my favorite gun...I don't know what I would do without it! Schofield, Walkers...they can wait. They're fun, but they won't rank as high on your list as the '92 will...trust me.
Shit I have the uberti 1851 oval trigger guard navy brand new , havent even shot it yet and the loading lever retainer came loose from the barrel assembly, i have no idea how to re attach it
which could be the power of this revolver compared to modern ammnunition? 32 S&W long? 38 special (not +p)? I'm quite sure my 1858 New Army Remington hits harder than a modern 38 special, bur never mesured the velocity it develops
@newhuskytwenty 80-85gr ball at around 1000fps with a full charge of powder. Ballistically it's close to .32 H&R Magnum which moves a 85gr bullet at 1100fps. Perhaps a .380 ACP which is a 95gr at 960fps.
It's hard to compare apples to apples since lead balls are much lighter than modern bullets in similar diameters.
@DrakeGmbH Thaks for your reply. So that it's a pretty good enemy deterrent. Time ago I was about to buy in France a beautiful Italian replica of the slim Colt Police 36 caliber and never did because I had hundreds of .454 bullets.
@DrakeGmbH Actually ballistically speaking, the .36 cap and ball revolvers are more or less equivilant to .32 ACP, terminal performance-wise. Very fun guns, though.
@RaderizDorret Well I'd put it in the middle between .32 ACP and .32 H&R as a full charge will get that ball moving around 1000 fps. .32 ACP moves a lighter projectile (71gr) at only 900 fps. .380 ACP seemed like a good midpoint.
@DrakeGmbH I don't doubt your velocity figures. I was talking about the wounds created by the typical .36 cap and ball load. Still deadly when the shooter knows what they're doing. Just ask Dave Tutt.
@newhuskytwenty Colt navy 1851 is close to a 38 ACP. A Remington New Army is higher than a 38 special. It approximately reaches the lowest 45 ACP power.
I've read that the .36 Navy Colt was actually a .38. Assuming that's true, how does it compare to contemporary .38 Specials, +P and otherwise? Don't have an axe to grind here. Just curious:) --
Just taking a guess here, but the reason that there's little recoil of the revolver is because nothing in the revolver pushes back to chamber a new round; and the hammer strikes forward? Because I was watching your hands, and they didn't move almost at all.
@GrigoriZhukov I dunno, I know you sent to me so...paper cartridges. I worked from the introdution of them (from the early days of the first revolvers) until cartidges were common. it works, I use on and the drill is easy and fast to pick up.
you should tilt the gun or back over your shoulder to the side when you cock the hammer so the cap fragments don't fall down into the firing mechanism
im my 36 New Army Police i use a cast 125 grain Minie or a cast 80 grain ball with CCI No. 10 and about 40 grains of Graf and Sons Blackpowder. Try it all out and see what happens.
@mark3smle yeah the Minies can be tricky to put in using the lever,. but i tended to pour the powder down and ram it with the lever before putting in ball. and of course, mine is a 36 Remington 1858 army. i did stuff a max of 35 in my old 44cal 1851 navy colt, but of course, they never actually made the 1851 navy in 44 cal
@DrakeGmbH I just got an 1858 New Army. I was wondering what technique you used for cleaning yours. I've heard of others just putting the whole gun minus grips and trigger guard in hot soapy water and just drying it really well and oiling it after scrubbing off the more difficult residue.
@tlmoore444 I don't do anything too special. I pull the barrel and cylinder off and rinse with hot water then swab the barrel and cylinder bores with blackpowder solvent until the patches come out clean. I dry everything and push a patch with some Bore Butter through the barrel and the cylinder bores, then just apply a light coat of oil to the rest of the exterior.
I end up not shooting this very often due to the involving cleaning required.
If you were going to use this for home defense, you'd want a big bowie knife or maybe a short sword to back it up... don't laugh, in places like England a revolver like this (plus a big blade) is literally the best a homeowner could legally do.
Just a noob with pistols but anyway am i the only one finding these oldschool revolvers much better looking then the modern ones?
Aurosgoldeneagle 3 days ago
When you fire a "Cap and Ball" Revolver, a technique after firing is to lift the gun up to where the barrel is pointed straight up (as if you were exaggerating the recoil) to let the remnants of the primer fall out of the way of the cylinder. Great Video! I own one of these aswell, and a unnamed italian replica of a 1851 Navy fighter in .44.
MrPink4tw 4 days ago
good editing
brtshstel 5 days ago
Looks like it takes forever to load.
DarthSaigon 5 days ago
How come you're not inserting a wad behind the bullet?
colemanrpatrick 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Nice Pistol, personally I still think Remington made a better gun at the time but never the less; Its always interesting all these export models Colt made, they seem better then the domestic.
Jaket2000 3 weeks ago
@whenvaporsvanish no i never heard of him
Lumak1 1 month ago
Такое оружие, а отдача маленькая! - Клас!!!
Dima34119 3 months ago
Holy shit, I thought that blackpowdercontainer at the top was a cartridge at first, my heart skipped a beat xD
andhabb97 3 months ago
That this has no kick for a revolver, what the heck?
Just saying, dont revolvers usually have a realativly large recoiol
MjMikoolJr 3 months ago
I really like this one.
CoreyIsTheName 3 months ago
@whenvaporsvanish who?
Lumak1 3 months ago
I love the look of that gun. I had a 1851 colt navy that i traded for a Harpers ferry .58 cal. I'm going to have to get another one one of these days. Also I'm sure you know this but you can get a replacement tip for that powder flask that holds 15 grains which is enough for that .36. That way you don't have to measure it out by hand every time.
sharpie443 4 months ago
That's what you call a percussion cap you put in the back of the cylinder right? How do you do that?
Pyrus335 4 months ago
I live in MN and i'm 15 is it legal for me to hunt with one of those?
oldtubbydogs 4 months ago
Definitely not a quick-reload. Did the officers of the Civil war carry spare cylinders?
FredDude27 5 months ago
What is the average cost for one of these?
101stHartman 5 months ago
@101stHartman Looks like Taylor's has these for $330 now.
DrakeGmbH 5 months ago
oh yeah i know :)
ThePeopleneedhelp 5 months ago
wow all your guns do actualy sound the same xD
ThePeopleneedhelp 5 months ago
If you insist. Pistols in general sound quite a lot like other pistols while rifles sound quite a lot like other rifles. Outside of movies and video games, of course. Special effects to make the sounds more unique and memorable are required in those mediums to help the audience know different weapons are being used. Actual gunshot recordings are far less dramatic, as you see here.
DrakeGmbH 5 months ago 20
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ZombieHunter19 4 weeks ago
@ThePeopleneedhelp Its his camera microphone.
ZombieHunter19 4 weeks ago
@ZombieHunter19 lol i no
ThePeopleneedhelp 4 weeks ago
The 1851 Navy only put out about 88 foot pounds of energy, thats half as much as a .22 lr yet some how it had stopping power. Was it the Round Ball design?
ScientologySucksAss 6 months ago
An 80-85gr ball at around 1000fps is closer to 180ft/lbs muzzle energy.
DrakeGmbH 5 months ago
it looks like mals gun
100redeye 6 months ago
I see at 0:30 cap falling from nipple and getting in cylinder action.Does falling caps sometimes jam your hammer action?
MNEsharpshooter 6 months ago
@MNEsharpshooter Yes, it happens from time to time.
DrakeGmbH 5 months ago
i love mine. very fun to shoot :)
MagicBradley 6 months ago
WoooEooooEoooooooo.....wah wah wahhhhhhh
Jamesmartens55 6 months ago
is it acurate?
Wolfsblut7 6 months ago
I live in France and this is the only gun you can get without needing a permit or hunters license , and i was told it was one of the primary handguns used to wipe out the native Americans!
oscie1 6 months ago
Wow Very long time for reloading
Elm4t4z0mbI 7 months ago
I have a 1851 Navy, and I love it! last time out shooting, I broke my nipple wrench, while cleaning it, bummer deal. it sure is a lot of fun to shoot, mine happens to be quite accurate too, so much more fun than my other hand guns
DerGeist93 7 months ago
cool but u should shoot one-handed like they did back in the old west instead of that two-handed post-WWII grip. FYI back when that weapon was in production if a gunslinger wanted to steady their aim, they would grip their wrist but they only kept one hand on the gun at all times...
Foxtrot323 7 months ago
@Foxtrot323 I shoot how I'm comfortable. I've tried holding my wrist when shooting my Model 29 - (the Dirty Harry stance) and it does little for recoil control but it is a bit easier on the wrist. A one-handed grip on a large pistol like an N-frame with target grips feels a bit awkward to me.
DrakeGmbH 7 months ago
@DrakeGmbH yeah I'm just saying for authenticity it would have been better if u had shot it that way.
Foxtrot323 7 months ago
@Rheinmetall20mm Well if he dodged six rounds, I think little would stop him.
rdjhardy 7 months ago
nice gun
Tevujin 8 months ago
That is a beautiful gun my friend! Our very own iron-clad bushranger and folk hero Ned Kelly used one of these in his final showdown before being caught.
Kaffyboy 8 months ago
how long does it take to reload it full when you´re in a hurry?
Lumak1 8 months ago
@Lumak1 not fast enough to safe your life!!
bunny153649 8 months ago
@bunny153649 that gun sucks
Lumak1 8 months ago
@Lumak1 About sixty years quicker than a Colt 1911.
rdjhardy 7 months ago
whats the accuracy with tis pistol
jswilli3 8 months ago
my friend bought one of these yesterday for $100 straight
Shamaster56 8 months ago
gorgeous pistol. I started with the black rifles and auto pistols as a younger man, now i'm going backwars in time, currently into milsurp and black powder :) I still love my AK's and Glocks don't get me wrong, but these are history you can hold
sonick808 9 months ago
That must be a bitch to reload... I even wonder if people in 1851 still used Bows and arrows or Swords...
supermankicass 9 months ago
@supermankicass Yes, and white folk still used swords, lances and muzzle loading rifles.
rdjhardy 7 months ago
@CrazySoldier31 1851. Read the full comment when I said 1855 - a reference to the Rollin White patent on a new cylinder design completely unrelated to this revolver.
DrakeGmbH 9 months ago
Why dont you wax the front of the chambers once you've filled them? Keeps the gun cleaner if you're putting a lot through it.
Scarletsm0ke 9 months ago
@Scarletsm0ke I shoot with wads - easier to work with and they serve the same purpose. The most shots I've put through this at one time was around 18 - so cleanup isn't a big concern. I was using Goex Pinnacle for this video but I've since switched to proper FFFg blackpowder which has been far easier to measure and meters properly from my Colt flask.
DrakeGmbH 9 months ago 2
..........i feel sorry for anyone that had to reload that during combat
purplerocks1 9 months ago
@purplerocks1 I'd have felt sorrier for the guy using a single shot muzzle loader.
rdjhardy 7 months ago
Weird way to reload a gun. Takes pretty long to load but it's a classic.
mario3311991 10 months ago
@mario3311991 I imagine loading through the rear of the cylinder as we're accustomed to today was rather weird when Rollin White patented his bored-through cylinder design in 1855.
DrakeGmbH 10 months ago
@DrakeGmbH was to weird for colt at the time. someone at colt must have gotten fired over that rather embarassing blunder, once they realized what had happened.
norwegianwiking 8 months ago
this gun dont use bullets? if they dont use bullets it isnt actually a gun. so we can use them in denmark
agentkapser 10 months ago
Are there any modifications available to this gun that allow it to use other than cap and ball ammunition?
JuanMars10 10 months ago
@JuanMars10 yes, there are two companies that offer conversion cylinders,R&D and Kirst. Just Google "cap and ball conversion cylinder" and you should find what you want. I have the R&D for my 58' Remington to fire .45 colt. works great and gets a lot of attention at the range.
62hydrodyne 9 months ago
could this kill u right away or need a few shot cuz the bullets looks like bbs...
hibrian9 10 months ago
@hibrian9 These are certainly lethal - just as they were when first designed in 1851.
DrakeGmbH 10 months ago 11
@hibrian9 At maximum load with a good powder, it can reach a nice 310 Joules with a round ball of 9.5mm and 5.5 gramms thrown at 335 m/s. It requires no more shots than a standard 9mm (FMJ).
TerminatorFRA 10 months ago
@TerminatorFRA kk thx for ur help
hibrian9 10 months ago
@hibrian9 They are 5 times larger than bb's are a pure lead, they will drop you dead.
009jorge1 10 months ago
LOL, Is that a old gun?
vitorgaray 10 months ago
does this gun have as much recoil as a regular 44 or is it alot less because thats what it looks like
pianoguy98 10 months ago
@pianoguy98 This pistol is .36 caliber. Blackpowder has a smoother pressure curve than smokeless powder so felt recoil and muzzle velocity are less than a comparable smokeless load. These were loaded with about 17gr of FFFg Goex powder which gives a muzzle velocity in the 750-800fps range.
DrakeGmbH 10 months ago
thats a lot of powder
Nicholas1350 1 year ago
I can't stop looking at this video. That 1851 looks so nice. Have you stained the grips to a darker stain?
Jrhoney 1 year ago
@Jrhoney No, these grips are as they came to me from Uberti.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
Single action, huh?
TheSeventhGuitar 1 year ago
Will it be unsafe to fire without grease on the cylinders?
victorwongvw 1 year ago
@victorwongvw There is a possibility of chain-fire if you do not use grease or wads. Wads are a bit easier to deal with so that's what I've been using. If the balls have a proper fit in the cylinder - evidenced by the shaved ring of lead when they are seated - the risk of chain fire is very low. Be sure to use tightly fitting caps as well to prevent a chain fire from the nipple end.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
@DrakeGmbH how the hell does somebody load this in combat?? LOL
nunvikingsofthesea 1 year ago
@nunvikingsofthesea Slowly. However, these guns were considered high-tech in their day. A lot more firepower than a single shot percussion pistol.
whitethronebooks 10 months ago
this reminds me of batman
jonasldg 1 year ago
ive heard that the barrel can come off too easy.
saj12100 1 year ago
@saj12100 If that were the case it would be easier to swap cylinders. The barrel wedge is very hard to remove on my revolver so I only do so for cleaning.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
such an odd way of loading
hachey93 1 year ago
@hachey93 This is the system that predated fixed metallic cartridges.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
"I've come to kill ya in one minute, or see ya hang at Fort Smith at Judge Parker's convience"
"Im callin' that bold talk from a one eyed fat man!"
"Fill you hand you son of a bitch!"
NAVY TIME
O15Omnicron 1 year ago
Do you do the crisco smear on the cylinders to keep from having an accidental cookoff from burning powder?
foughtwolf 1 year ago
@foughtwolf No, I use Wonder Wads instead. The term for what you've described is a 'chain-fire'.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
Does the 1851 have the nipple buttons between cylinders to lock the hammer so all 6 chambers can be filled? My 1860 does, but I do not know if the 1851 does. Thanks.
RabbitusMaximus 1 year ago
@RabbitusMaximus Yes, the 1851 has safety pins between the nipples. The notch in the hammer face rests on these pins and keeps the cylinder from rotating until the hammer is cocked.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
Needs moar powder brah.
Kullg4r 1 year ago
I want one of these so fucking bad.
iwasborninyourbutt 1 year ago
I bet you Spock doesn't have one of these!
TheShadoKnite 1 year ago
do you know if its leagal for a 15 year old to purchase a black powder gun?
GoEflight 1 year ago
@GoEflight Blackpowder weapons are not federally regulated as firearms but local and state laws vary widely. Refer to your local laws to be sure.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
@GoEflight really? like black powder revolvers and such
Vlaxerman343 1 year ago
@Vlaxerman343 im pretty sure black powder guns arent considered firearms so minors may purchase them buy i trully am not sure so dont take my word for it
GoEflight 1 year ago
@GoEflight
Vlaxerman343 1 year ago
@GoEflight The usual age to purchase any real firearm is 18. The only difference of a Black Powder is that nothing is regulated but the age.
MrFuckyouintheneck 1 year ago
Well I guess it's true, what the song "The Devil's Right Hand" says...
"My very first pistol was a cap-and-ball Colt; shoot as fast as lightning but it loads a mite slow.... It loads a mite slow and I soon found out, in can get you into trouble but it can't get you out."
Zeratul723 1 year ago
@DrakeGmbH If i buy this gun and a conversion cylinder in a .38, will i need a pistol liscence? please reply
joex321 1 year ago
@joex321 Depends on your local laws. Blackpowder weapons aren't considered firearms and therefore don't need to be transferred through FFL's. If your local laws have no specific restrictions - you can have one shipped to your door. A conversion cylinder is not a firearm, it's a part, so it also would not require an FFL transfer. If your local laws require licenses for ownership - you would likely be in violation if you constructed a cartridge revolver in this manner without a proper license.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
I am curious how long would it take to load one of those things normally.
gundog39 1 year ago
How heavy a powder charge were you putting in? recoil didn't look to bad. im considering investing in one of these.
Yuttmonster 1 year ago
@Yuttmonster Around 17gr. Recently I bought a Colt-type powder flask with adjustable dispenser. I've got it set to throw about 20-21gr of powder. I also switched from the Goex Pinnacle substitute to Goex FFFg black powder and it's been working much better.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
@DrakeGmbH How much did they usually use back then?
Yuttmonster 1 year ago
@Yuttmonster I can't say with any degree of certainty. The paperwork that came with my revolver recommended 15-25gr of FFFg for round balls. The charge was reduced somewhat for conical bullets due to the longer projectile.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
@DrakeGmbH thanks for the info man
Yuttmonster 1 year ago
damn, this takes so long to re-load. like the hell is it even shooting to take for ever to re-load? missiles or something?
JrsRage 1 year ago
hey, you have a walker? those thing are insane! they are over a foot long and weigh more than 5 pounds loaded
soixe1997 1 year ago
@soixe1997 Not yet. I was on the fence about buying a Cimarron Walker about a month ago but ended up putting the money toward an 1892 Hartford in .45 Colt. A Walker is still on my 'to-do' list, along with a Schofield.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago 5
@DrakeGmbH if you get one get it from uberti, their guns are really high quality
soixe1997 1 year ago
@soixe1997 Cimarron guns are made by Uberti in Italy and assembled and finished by Cimarron in Texas. Same basic parts but with a better fit and finish. My Cimarron Model P is the only gun I have with a Texas roll mark.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
@DrakeGmbH What's a Cinnamon Walker?
BootyFister 5 months ago
@DrakeGmbH You won't regret the '92. I have one in .357 and it is my favorite gun...I don't know what I would do without it! Schofield, Walkers...they can wait. They're fun, but they won't rank as high on your list as the '92 will...trust me.
kregerfilms 5 months ago
cool vid
how long did these things take to reload usually
OleScrubby 1 year ago
When was the gun made?
husnain404 1 year ago
@husnain404 its in the god damn name you retard.
eivindandreashiew 1 year ago
@eivindandreashiew 1851 is the model number, dipshit. This is a reproduction by Uberti. Try reading the description before spouting off at the mouth.
RaderizDorret 1 year ago
The ant is running away at 0:14
ZiutZiut 1 year ago
Man, that gun must be such a pain to load and use
Xgendude14 1 year ago
yea I'll have me gat in tha hood :P
STERNrogering 1 year ago
Shit I have the uberti 1851 oval trigger guard navy brand new , havent even shot it yet and the loading lever retainer came loose from the barrel assembly, i have no idea how to re attach it
Grasshopper257 1 year ago
Must be goddamn annyoing to reload.
Crenomaster 1 year ago
Where da hell is the recoil?
texascivic 1 year ago
Wowwwww... if it takes this long to load... I'm going to just stick to a bow and Arrows... or even a knife for that matter.
supermankicass 1 year ago
which could be the power of this revolver compared to modern ammnunition? 32 S&W long? 38 special (not +p)? I'm quite sure my 1858 New Army Remington hits harder than a modern 38 special, bur never mesured the velocity it develops
newhuskytwenty 1 year ago
@newhuskytwenty 80-85gr ball at around 1000fps with a full charge of powder. Ballistically it's close to .32 H&R Magnum which moves a 85gr bullet at 1100fps. Perhaps a .380 ACP which is a 95gr at 960fps.
It's hard to compare apples to apples since lead balls are much lighter than modern bullets in similar diameters.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
@DrakeGmbH Thaks for your reply. So that it's a pretty good enemy deterrent. Time ago I was about to buy in France a beautiful Italian replica of the slim Colt Police 36 caliber and never did because I had hundreds of .454 bullets.
newhuskytwenty 1 year ago
@DrakeGmbH Really I heard that with a full charge of hot burning 777 & a 200gr bullet you would get a velocity around the high 900s
Xxoo0o0o0ooxX 1 year ago
@DrakeGmbH Actually ballistically speaking, the .36 cap and ball revolvers are more or less equivilant to .32 ACP, terminal performance-wise. Very fun guns, though.
RaderizDorret 1 year ago
@RaderizDorret Well I'd put it in the middle between .32 ACP and .32 H&R as a full charge will get that ball moving around 1000 fps. .32 ACP moves a lighter projectile (71gr) at only 900 fps. .380 ACP seemed like a good midpoint.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
@DrakeGmbH I don't doubt your velocity figures. I was talking about the wounds created by the typical .36 cap and ball load. Still deadly when the shooter knows what they're doing. Just ask Dave Tutt.
RaderizDorret 1 year ago
@newhuskytwenty Colt navy 1851 is close to a 38 ACP. A Remington New Army is higher than a 38 special. It approximately reaches the lowest 45 ACP power.
TerminatorFRA 1 year ago
Very, very long reload
Crunker2 1 year ago
old school bud good weapon
juultje2000 1 year ago
that is one sexy revolver ;) jk
cammike10 1 year ago
I've read that the .36 Navy Colt was actually a .38. Assuming that's true, how does it compare to contemporary .38 Specials, +P and otherwise? Don't have an axe to grind here. Just curious:) --
stevevandien 1 year ago
@stevevandien Yes, it was called a .36 caliber ball but the diameter truly measures 0.375-0.380". On the other hand - .38 Special measures 0.357".
With a full charge of blackpowder (about 25-26gr) this revolver will move a 80gr lead ball around 1000fps.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
tanks you for the reponse
marccco56 1 year ago
hello I would like to know how many grams of black powder you pour into the barrel meets stp
marccco56 1 year ago
@marccco56 I used about 17 grains in this video. The maximum load is around 25 grains. 17gr = 1.10g. 25gr = 1.62g
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
do you have any trapdoor rifles?
Jaconator23 1 year ago
@Jaconator23 Not yet. I'd like a nice M1873, though.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
i really like the shape of that one
malevolenceXXXensues 1 year ago
Black powder guns are so much fun to shoot! The first gun I ever fired was an old musket!
korndog59 1 year ago
Thank God times have changed! Looks like it took for ever to load that monster!
07yensid 1 year ago
Whats the difference in the 1851 navy and the 1851 navy london?
Grasshopper257 1 year ago
@Grasshopper257 The Navy London has a blued steel trigger guard and grip straps. The Navy uses brass parts in these places.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
@DrakeGmbH Ah ok.
Have you ever thought about getting the kirst Konverter with loading gate to be able to use .38lc?
Grasshopper257 1 year ago
Just taking a guess here, but the reason that there's little recoil of the revolver is because nothing in the revolver pushes back to chamber a new round; and the hammer strikes forward? Because I was watching your hands, and they didn't move almost at all.
ShadeStalker1915 1 year ago
must be so dang hard to load when in combat
XplosiveProductZ 1 year ago
@XplosiveProductZ Not hard at all, use paper cartridges and capper.
GrigoriZhukov 1 year ago
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XplosiveProductZ 1 year ago
@GrigoriZhukov I dunno, I know you sent to me so...paper cartridges. I worked from the introdution of them (from the early days of the first revolvers) until cartidges were common. it works, I use on and the drill is easy and fast to pick up.
GrigoriZhukov 1 year ago
you should tilt the gun or back over your shoulder to the side when you cock the hammer so the cap fragments don't fall down into the firing mechanism
lonegunman69 1 year ago
wats the cheapest gun you could possibly get.
1312scarface 1 year ago
@1312scarface 8^) a stolen one.
GrigoriZhukov 1 year ago
cool
zmon49 1 year ago
Isn't this revolver's sheer BEAUTY striking? What lovely lines --
stevevandien 1 year ago
@stevevandien ditto
GrigoriZhukov 1 year ago
im my 36 New Army Police i use a cast 125 grain Minie or a cast 80 grain ball with CCI No. 10 and about 40 grains of Graf and Sons Blackpowder. Try it all out and see what happens.
mark3smle 1 year ago
@mark3smle 40 grains? The capacity of the 1851 cylinder with a .36 ball is only 25gr. It's only 15gr with the longer conical ball.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
@mark3smle yeah the Minies can be tricky to put in using the lever,. but i tended to pour the powder down and ram it with the lever before putting in ball. and of course, mine is a 36 Remington 1858 army. i did stuff a max of 35 in my old 44cal 1851 navy colt, but of course, they never actually made the 1851 navy in 44 cal
mark3smle 1 year ago
@mark3smle I prefer the speer swagged balls or the buffalo conical's and 20gr in paper cartridges.
GrigoriZhukov 1 year ago
As I understand it, you don't need to fill out a 4473 form and they can ship it to your home?
tlmoore444 1 year ago
@tlmoore444 That's right. It's not considered a 'firearm' because it's a replica of an antique and does not chamber metallic cartridges.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
@DrakeGmbH Hooray for loopholes!
whowantsabighug 1 year ago
@DrakeGmbH I just got an 1858 New Army. I was wondering what technique you used for cleaning yours. I've heard of others just putting the whole gun minus grips and trigger guard in hot soapy water and just drying it really well and oiling it after scrubbing off the more difficult residue.
tlmoore444 1 year ago
@tlmoore444 I don't do anything too special. I pull the barrel and cylinder off and rinse with hot water then swab the barrel and cylinder bores with blackpowder solvent until the patches come out clean. I dry everything and push a patch with some Bore Butter through the barrel and the cylinder bores, then just apply a light coat of oil to the rest of the exterior.
I end up not shooting this very often due to the involving cleaning required.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
@DrakeGmbH Awesome! Thanks for the advice. I shot mine yesterday and cleaned it the way you said and it worked great.
tlmoore444 1 year ago
cool!
gomann64 1 year ago
If you were going to use this for home defense, you'd want a big bowie knife or maybe a short sword to back it up... don't laugh, in places like England a revolver like this (plus a big blade) is literally the best a homeowner could legally do.
bjggjb 1 year ago
where dose a guy get a 200 year old gun like that?
Peanutbutter585 1 year ago
@Peanutbutter585 The original version of this gun was first produced in 1851 - making the design 159 years old.
However, as I've stated, this is a reproduction made by Uberti. It was built in 2008.
DrakeGmbH 1 year ago
@Peanutbutter585
It's beautifull, but it's a fully functional replica.
There's a lot of fully functional black powders on the market these days...
PS, I'd say it's aprox 150 yrs old :) ;)
KraljLazar 1 year ago