I demonstrated the Mac in London when it was first shown in the UK, June 7th 84 from memory. No printer, MacWrite and MacPaint and a spreadsheet called Multiplan (maybe that came a bit later). Either way ever I am amazed at how far things have gone for Apple. It was and still is the best!
Did anyone realise back in the 1980's that a square block of plastic wasn't ergonomic to the hand, or was it a financial decision to make the mouse so block shaped?
How did this discussion get on the Amiga? The Amiga was a likable computer, but the OS had an "old school" feel to it with it's monospaced system font and lack of interface consistency among applications. The Mac's monitor, while small and grayscale, was extremely high resolution for the time, and the Mac had superb font support, making it the best choice for Desktop Publishing. That's why it survived and prospered.
@VaderNES The machines are cheap because they were crap in the 1st place. The macintosh SE is a low end machine,yet it cost more than a HIGH END workstation grade machine Amiga 2000. Without the Amiga,computers wouldn't be what they are today. The Amiga doesn't need a lot of ram to do things your pos macintosh could never do no matter how ram you can put in it.
The Amiga uses a Motorola chip,but has its own custom chips that make it more powerful and more versatile than a macintosh. The prices do too matter,funny how a mac cost more back then,but aren't worth squat now.
@VaderNES The Amiga had TONS of options for upgrades Including; PC and Macintosh emulation, memory expansion( to handle more than the 8MB max,which is twice the ram capability as the macintosh SE),CPU accelerators,SCSI controllers,networking,video cards,audio cards,video capture,parallel ports, serial ports,non-linear video editing, and real-time video special-effects.
Even a $600 Amiga could display 4,096 colors and stereo sound with a custom speech chip,something your $2,900 mac couldn't do.
@MasterNaruto1214 The Macintosh II had those, and the Macintosh SE hardware could support them with a video card and separate monitor, which, incidentally, also allows duel monitors. The Macintosh II could also support duel monitors. And with the Macintosh II or the Macintosh SE/30, you could do even more.
Also, if Amiga is so great, then how come they do not make the systems any more?
@VaderNES CSB,Apple fanboy trolling ethug, the macintosh SE also cost alot more than a Amiga system, Amiga 2000 could support a video card,and it came with a DECENT USE-ABLE SIZED MONITOR. Could your POS macs play back several channels of digital audio and be powerful enough to run programs such as Lightwave 3D? The Amiga was used in television and movie production(Video toaster), it is also capable of being upgraded to PPC,ethernet wide SCSI,and even more powerful 3D graphics cards.
@MasterNaruto1214 Ugh, dummkopf. First of all, you started trolling here in the first place with your Amiga comments. Second of all, you can do that with Macintosh, anyway. The Macintosh SE, SE/30, and Macintosh II all support external video cards, which can support external monitors that are bigger. And the Macintosh II actually CAME with a bigger monitor, anyway. Also, to answer your question, yes, they can. In fact, you can see a 3D animation made on a Mac II in the '80s on Youtube.
LMAO,EXTERNAL video cards? The Commodore Amiga could display to a large television USING ITS OWN BUILT IN VIDEO CHIP,not some external upgrade crap just to do so. The Amiga was better for 3D animation and super expensive workstation quality graphics,while still being cheaper than a POS toy mac. Commodore went under due to poor CEO decisions,otherwise a great company.
Didn't you know apple nearly went under because their crap they were trying to push in the 90's?
@MasterNaruto1214 And in addition, they also support scsi ethernet (which I have equipped on my Macintosh SE), and there are even installable internal ethernet cards.
And not only can you do those things, but you can also upgrade the RAM (on an SE/30 or a Mac II, up to 128 mb), you can upgrade the floppy drives (to support 1.44 mb floppies), you can add a bootable scsi hard drive, and now you can even Twitter with a Macintosh. I'd like to see you Twitter with your pathetic little Amiga.
@VaderNES LOL KK macfag. Why would you want 128mb of ram on a useless crapple? The Commodore Amiga could do all of that and more,so troll more mac iFanboy.
@VaderNES LOL KK macfag. Why would you want 128mb of ram on a useless crapple? The Amiga could do all of that and more,so troll more mac iFanboy. The Amiga stored data more efficiently so it didn't need the 1.44MB drive. Did your crapple have support for a CD-ROM drive? Didn't think so.
An Amiga can even handle a PPC card,which can run more than 256MB of ram,and a modern OS that is actually useable. Your mac cant even display 4,096 colors at once with 4 channel stereo,even with upgrades
@MasterNaruto1214 Dummkopf, the Mac can do everything that an Amiga can do. All of those things can be done with a Mac. And, yes, the Macintosh does support a CD-Drive. And not only that, but it can also support a camera, an external hard drive, or any other scsi device you throw at it. Not to mention the fact that I have already stated that Macintosh can support a PPC upgrade. Your ignorance fails you.
Also, the Macintosh SE/30 and the Macintosh II, even without a PPC upgrade, can still run
@VaderNES Troll more mac fanboy? Yes everything has to be EXTERNAL on the pos mac, on a Amiga everything can go in a internal upgrade slot,which is faster.
Why would you want to run OS8( which is still useless,even OS9 is useless) on a slow mac that doesn't even have a 2 button mouse or a color screen?
@MasterNaruto1214 Slow? I own 7 computers ranging from the late '80s to 2010, and do you know which are the 2 fastest? My Macintosh SE and my Macintosh Classic. And my Macintosh SE has so much crap on it, too, such as programs and games.
Also, on the Macintosh II, you can actually place an internal drive in it, or if you cut it, you can do that with a compact Mac, too.
Also, you can install upgrades internally. The Macintosh SE, Macintosh SE/30, and the Macintosh II all offer slots for upgrade
@VaderNES cards. You can have internal ethernet, internal video, internal anything.
Also, must I say this again? The Macintosh II and Macintosh SE support colour. The Macintosh II comes with a colour monitor, and the Macintosh SE can support an external colour monitor.
Oh, and by the way, you are the actual troll, in that you started trolling in the first place. This is a MACINTOSH video, and you posted anti-Mac comments. That makes you the troll. Dummkopf.
@VaderNES The mac in the video sure looks like black & white to me, as most other macs until the late 80's.
So cool story again,mac fanboy troll. Yet most macs didn't have any internal ethernet,internal video,or internal anything because most users didn't have the knowledge of upgrading the overpriced toy. You seemed to miss my other points,the mac only has 1 button mouse,and if any color on screen,it's low color,with only mono audio.
@VaderNES The Amiga 2000 which only cost about $2,000,at the time,much cheaper than the limited macintosh SE stuck with its tiny internal MONOCHROME monitor unless you spend even more and get a external graphics card. The Amiga 2000 has a video slot, a processor slot, as well as five Amiga expansion slots. The more powerful Amiga with it's custom chips could do way more than a mac,yet was easy to use.
@MasterNaruto1214 Macintosh DEFINES user friendliness and ease of use.
Also, all of those upgrades are available on Macintosh, too. And SCSI controllers are actually BUILT-IN, and are STOCK on ALL Macs. You don't need to even buy an upgrade kit to have SCSI.
Also what did I tell you about the Macintosh II, dummkopf? It comes with a colour monitor. Seriously, you are so stupid.
Furthermore, the Macintosh SE CAN support up to 8mb of RAM STOCK, plus more with expansion.
@VaderNES Macintosh uses the same damn CPU as Amiga. It isn't more power, it is the same amount of power.
And prices do not matter now, anyway. Today, you can own a Macintosh SE, Macintosh SE/30, or a Macintosh II for only $50 US. And in working condition, too.
@VaderNES Lolque trolling mac fanboy? If you can't even handle the ease of use that Windows 7 has,you should be using a computer,a mac is still a overpriced toy.
An Amiga,even with a SCSI card added in,still cost less than a crapple macintosh. It's pointless anyway for you to make the point that the macintosh II has a color screen,it cost over $5,000 back then. According to all sources,the SE can only use 4MB of RAM You're trying to say a mac is better,and YOU'RE calling me the dumb one?
@MasterNaruto1214 But is it the year 1989, though? If not, then prices do not matter. Today, these machines are cheap.
Also, the Macintosh SE is the lower-end model of those. You cannot expect a low-end model to perform as well as a higher-end model. The Macintosh SE/30 and Macintosh II are the better models, and they can support much more RAM than your Amiga.
And by the way, the reason why Macs are now cheap is because people BOUGHT them. And people are STILL buying used ones.
I'm going to ask at the store if I can
"Test Drive A MacinTOSSHHHH"
Stacc001 4 months ago 2
I demonstrated the Mac in London when it was first shown in the UK, June 7th 84 from memory. No printer, MacWrite and MacPaint and a spreadsheet called Multiplan (maybe that came a bit later). Either way ever I am amazed at how far things have gone for Apple. It was and still is the best!
tonybriz1 5 months ago
LOL I like the way he says Macintosh.
sonicnumber11 7 months ago
3 years ago I went Mac, and I am not going back. Apple rules!
123MrBurg 7 months ago 2
Did anyone realise back in the 1980's that a square block of plastic wasn't ergonomic to the hand, or was it a financial decision to make the mouse so block shaped?
crocodile2006 7 months ago
How did this discussion get on the Amiga? The Amiga was a likable computer, but the OS had an "old school" feel to it with it's monospaced system font and lack of interface consistency among applications. The Mac's monitor, while small and grayscale, was extremely high resolution for the time, and the Mac had superb font support, making it the best choice for Desktop Publishing. That's why it survived and prospered.
TimothyArends 8 months ago
@TimothyArends Because at that time, the Amiga was vastly superior to any personal computer.
eriku16 5 months ago
@VaderNES The machines are cheap because they were crap in the 1st place. The macintosh SE is a low end machine,yet it cost more than a HIGH END workstation grade machine Amiga 2000. Without the Amiga,computers wouldn't be what they are today. The Amiga doesn't need a lot of ram to do things your pos macintosh could never do no matter how ram you can put in it.
MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
@VaderNES Oh,and according to every source, the macintosh SE can only handle 4MB of ram.
MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
The Amiga uses a Motorola chip,but has its own custom chips that make it more powerful and more versatile than a macintosh. The prices do too matter,funny how a mac cost more back then,but aren't worth squat now.
MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
@VaderNES The Amiga had TONS of options for upgrades Including; PC and Macintosh emulation, memory expansion( to handle more than the 8MB max,which is twice the ram capability as the macintosh SE),CPU accelerators,SCSI controllers,networking,video cards,audio cards,video capture,parallel ports, serial ports,non-linear video editing, and real-time video special-effects.
Even a $600 Amiga could display 4,096 colors and stereo sound with a custom speech chip,something your $2,900 mac couldn't do.
MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
Mac has not on 1980's but 1984
tweetyaja 1 year ago
how the heck could this ad have been in 1980?apple had released their macintosh computers in 1984.
staticrubber 1 year ago
This could so run Crysis.
mankyman6 1 year ago
Oh My God!! Too much power!!!!!
rikkardnovacat2000 1 year ago
AHA!
TrandomnesstwO 1 year ago
wow, apple really think they invented the mouse..
just wait until you get owned by amiga again..
THEY WILL COME BACK!!!
Aqwert76 2 years ago
@Aqwert76 Amiga is a joke, and was a joke in the '80s unless you were in special effects or art. Amiga didn't even tap the Macintosh, much less pwn.
Amiga is not coming back.
VaderNES 1 year ago
@VaderNES Cool story,Apple fanboy.
The Amiga was so superior to the Apple which didn't even have a color screen or stereo sound back then.
MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
@MasterNaruto1214 The Macintosh II had those, and the Macintosh SE hardware could support them with a video card and separate monitor, which, incidentally, also allows duel monitors. The Macintosh II could also support duel monitors. And with the Macintosh II or the Macintosh SE/30, you could do even more.
Also, if Amiga is so great, then how come they do not make the systems any more?
GTFO of my internet, you pathetic troll.
VaderNES 11 months ago
@VaderNES CSB,Apple fanboy trolling ethug, the macintosh SE also cost alot more than a Amiga system, Amiga 2000 could support a video card,and it came with a DECENT USE-ABLE SIZED MONITOR. Could your POS macs play back several channels of digital audio and be powerful enough to run programs such as Lightwave 3D? The Amiga was used in television and movie production(Video toaster), it is also capable of being upgraded to PPC,ethernet wide SCSI,and even more powerful 3D graphics cards.
MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
@MasterNaruto1214 Ugh, dummkopf. First of all, you started trolling here in the first place with your Amiga comments. Second of all, you can do that with Macintosh, anyway. The Macintosh SE, SE/30, and Macintosh II all support external video cards, which can support external monitors that are bigger. And the Macintosh II actually CAME with a bigger monitor, anyway. Also, to answer your question, yes, they can. In fact, you can see a 3D animation made on a Mac II in the '80s on Youtube.
VaderNES 11 months ago
@VaderNES CSB mac troll.
LMAO,EXTERNAL video cards? The Commodore Amiga could display to a large television USING ITS OWN BUILT IN VIDEO CHIP,not some external upgrade crap just to do so. The Amiga was better for 3D animation and super expensive workstation quality graphics,while still being cheaper than a POS toy mac. Commodore went under due to poor CEO decisions,otherwise a great company.
Didn't you know apple nearly went under because their crap they were trying to push in the 90's?
MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
@MasterNaruto1214 And in addition, they also support scsi ethernet (which I have equipped on my Macintosh SE), and there are even installable internal ethernet cards.
And not only can you do those things, but you can also upgrade the RAM (on an SE/30 or a Mac II, up to 128 mb), you can upgrade the floppy drives (to support 1.44 mb floppies), you can add a bootable scsi hard drive, and now you can even Twitter with a Macintosh. I'd like to see you Twitter with your pathetic little Amiga.
VaderNES 11 months ago
@VaderNES LOL KK macfag. Why would you want 128mb of ram on a useless crapple? The Commodore Amiga could do all of that and more,so troll more mac iFanboy.
MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
@VaderNES LOL KK macfag. Why would you want 128mb of ram on a useless crapple? The Amiga could do all of that and more,so troll more mac iFanboy. The Amiga stored data more efficiently so it didn't need the 1.44MB drive. Did your crapple have support for a CD-ROM drive? Didn't think so.
An Amiga can even handle a PPC card,which can run more than 256MB of ram,and a modern OS that is actually useable. Your mac cant even display 4,096 colors at once with 4 channel stereo,even with upgrades
MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
@MasterNaruto1214 Dummkopf, the Mac can do everything that an Amiga can do. All of those things can be done with a Mac. And, yes, the Macintosh does support a CD-Drive. And not only that, but it can also support a camera, an external hard drive, or any other scsi device you throw at it. Not to mention the fact that I have already stated that Macintosh can support a PPC upgrade. Your ignorance fails you.
Also, the Macintosh SE/30 and the Macintosh II, even without a PPC upgrade, can still run
VaderNES 11 months ago
@VaderNES up to OS8.
VaderNES 11 months ago
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MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
@VaderNES Troll more mac fanboy? Yes everything has to be EXTERNAL on the pos mac, on a Amiga everything can go in a internal upgrade slot,which is faster.
Why would you want to run OS8( which is still useless,even OS9 is useless) on a slow mac that doesn't even have a 2 button mouse or a color screen?
MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
@MasterNaruto1214 Slow? I own 7 computers ranging from the late '80s to 2010, and do you know which are the 2 fastest? My Macintosh SE and my Macintosh Classic. And my Macintosh SE has so much crap on it, too, such as programs and games.
Also, on the Macintosh II, you can actually place an internal drive in it, or if you cut it, you can do that with a compact Mac, too.
Also, you can install upgrades internally. The Macintosh SE, Macintosh SE/30, and the Macintosh II all offer slots for upgrade
VaderNES 11 months ago
@VaderNES cards. You can have internal ethernet, internal video, internal anything.
Also, must I say this again? The Macintosh II and Macintosh SE support colour. The Macintosh II comes with a colour monitor, and the Macintosh SE can support an external colour monitor.
Oh, and by the way, you are the actual troll, in that you started trolling in the first place. This is a MACINTOSH video, and you posted anti-Mac comments. That makes you the troll. Dummkopf.
VaderNES 11 months ago
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MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
@VaderNES The mac in the video sure looks like black & white to me, as most other macs until the late 80's.
So cool story again,mac fanboy troll. Yet most macs didn't have any internal ethernet,internal video,or internal anything because most users didn't have the knowledge of upgrading the overpriced toy. You seemed to miss my other points,the mac only has 1 button mouse,and if any color on screen,it's low color,with only mono audio.
MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
@VaderNES The Amiga 2000 which only cost about $2,000,at the time,much cheaper than the limited macintosh SE stuck with its tiny internal MONOCHROME monitor unless you spend even more and get a external graphics card. The Amiga 2000 has a video slot, a processor slot, as well as five Amiga expansion slots. The more powerful Amiga with it's custom chips could do way more than a mac,yet was easy to use.
MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
@MasterNaruto1214 Macintosh DEFINES user friendliness and ease of use.
Also, all of those upgrades are available on Macintosh, too. And SCSI controllers are actually BUILT-IN, and are STOCK on ALL Macs. You don't need to even buy an upgrade kit to have SCSI.
Also what did I tell you about the Macintosh II, dummkopf? It comes with a colour monitor. Seriously, you are so stupid.
Furthermore, the Macintosh SE CAN support up to 8mb of RAM STOCK, plus more with expansion.
And as for power, the
VaderNES 11 months ago 2
@VaderNES Macintosh uses the same damn CPU as Amiga. It isn't more power, it is the same amount of power.
And prices do not matter now, anyway. Today, you can own a Macintosh SE, Macintosh SE/30, or a Macintosh II for only $50 US. And in working condition, too.
VaderNES 11 months ago
@VaderNES Lolque trolling mac fanboy? If you can't even handle the ease of use that Windows 7 has,you should be using a computer,a mac is still a overpriced toy.
An Amiga,even with a SCSI card added in,still cost less than a crapple macintosh. It's pointless anyway for you to make the point that the macintosh II has a color screen,it cost over $5,000 back then. According to all sources,the SE can only use 4MB of RAM You're trying to say a mac is better,and YOU'RE calling me the dumb one?
MasterNaruto1214 11 months ago
@MasterNaruto1214 But is it the year 1989, though? If not, then prices do not matter. Today, these machines are cheap.
Also, the Macintosh SE is the lower-end model of those. You cannot expect a low-end model to perform as well as a higher-end model. The Macintosh SE/30 and Macintosh II are the better models, and they can support much more RAM than your Amiga.
And by the way, the reason why Macs are now cheap is because people BOUGHT them. And people are STILL buying used ones.
VaderNES 11 months ago
Wow, he says macintosh real deeply.
iCamiloTV 2 years ago 7
This has been flagged as spam show
Wow...
The guy looking like hes getting ready to haul ass, only to click a mouse to reveal an incredibly wimpy hello, in wimpy cursive no less.
FrumpyShakes 2 years ago
It's MacPaint on the screen
drruggeri 2 years ago 7
Woooooow maybe the best ad from 80s
nicolunacba 2 years ago 14
WOW they were doing the white background/plexi even then? Apple WAS ahead of its time.
MikeMiller 3 years ago 4
Qualified customers only...lol ok....
lxnthnyv 3 years ago 28
that on the screen was photoshop 1 probably... cool
elmo007millie 3 years ago
Like de MS paint. Not PS.
KALEI2DIGITAL 3 years ago
And?
Games5522 3 years ago
This ad is from 1984.
daanbrg 3 years ago