Sarkozy backs ban on Muslim burqas - 23 Jun 09

[MrJohnnyrace]

Screw iscum.

[fromwilliams]

The burqa has nothing to do with Islam. Please educate yourselves. The reaction from the Islamophobes on these forums is exactly the reaction Sarkozy wants so you may pat him on the back and give him your vote. wakey wakey people wakey wakey.Banning an expression of cultural conviction in the name of protecting a liberal culture is stupid dont you think. What about the individual's rights?

[IloveVarna]

Pretty tourist Charlotte Lewis, 25, and marketing executive Ayman Najafi, 24, say all he did was peck her on the cheek.

But a local woman claimed she and her children saw them kissing on the lips and stroking each other's backs - and was so outraged she called cops.

The stunned pair were arrested at packed Bob's Restaurant and accused of breaching the Muslim state's strict honour and modesty laws.

They were each sentenced to a month in prison followed by deportation.

[darepow]

@IloveVarna

typical muslims. And they talk about "rights" and "tolerance".

Ban all muslims, they are awful people. Backwards.

[IloveVarna]

Wearing burqa must be banned in all Europe, Canada and USA.

[fromwilliams]

French quandary? A middle-age man Roman Polansky who reportedly forced a girl to satisfy his lust in natural and unnatural ways repeatedly is welcome in France to live, work, sign autographs, and dine at high levels, but 2,000 woman in France who dresses like the mother of Jesus (God bless mother and son) is told that there's no room at the inn. This is nothing but contemporary liberal discretion, if not neo-colonialist self-righteousness.

[gipcambero]

LOL What about Michael Jacson ???? Please stop Hypocrysy !!

[darepow]

@fromwilliams Roman Polanski is a westerner.

Muslims are not. Do the math.

[fromwilliams]

Islam is not bad. The Burqa is cultural not religious.

[fromwilliams]

Theres 25,000 rapes every year in France and 50,000 in UK , anglo christian countries do have rape, surprise surprise

[andyhwang2009]

Now Muslims  Nazi Rebels from middle east, Africa and asian occupied France , UK Sweden. Belgium, Netherland and all Europe and US . so France , UK , All Europe and US Government arrest all muslims and expel these muslim rebels from France, UK and all Europe and US .

[fromwilliams]

Rape is not allowed in Islam. Getting back to the burqa it is cultural not religious.

[PD413PD]

What an idiot- no shit RAPE IS NOT ALLOWED ANYWHERE THE WORLD IS CIVILIZED stupid. Islam is a mental disorder at best.

[andyhwang2009]

France ,UK , Belgium, Germany, Netherland and Europe Muslims think that women can't be raped if they dress head scarves and burqa. If they think like this , it insult all christian men.

[truecall2]

you mean it insults all perverted men.

[fromwilliams]

I hope Sarkozy gets a shoe

[truecall2]

you mean he gets pair of shoes.

[fromwilliams]

Stupid Sarkozy you know what some female migrant workers wear BEFORE they immigrate to France.

[MuslimGirl1989]

People, who keep saying Bravo to Sarkozy are ignorant people, who have nothing better to do but attack Muslims and our Religion. Its so Stupid, how you think that women are being oppressed, open your eyes and read up, Islam was the First Religion to introduce Women's Right, you narrow minded people, who just believe, what they read & see in the Media, if you actually meet real Muslim women, we'll all say that we are more free than you.

All you Islamophobes need to open your eyes.

[Sarahtolila]

"Islam was the First Religion to introduce Women's Right" LOL

[truecall2]

MuslimGirl1989 is correct. she knows the history of pre-islam woman were used as sex objects and were looked down upon. also they practiced burying females alive they felt ashamed only because given birth to female.

your a fool.

[Sarahtolila]

Jesus banned stoning and Mohamed called for it. And what about "QURAN 4:34 Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. "

And you are ignorant/liar. Pick one.

[truecall2]

Sarahtolila

I can play the same game pulling verses out of the bible you twat and the bible says worse things about the women. Example it says if woman doesnt cover her head then shave her hair off also women are not allowed to speak in the church. Etc.

[truecall2]

Sarahtolila

You lying ignorant nut bag. Jesus didnt ban stoning you liar Jesus said He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

Then the accusers ran off one by one also this verse was added later on. most scholars agree that John 7:53-8:11 was not part of the original text of John's Gospel..

Muslims believe in Jesus too.

[Sarahtolila]

Yes and everybody has a sin so he showed that stoning was inhuman... And muslim do not believe in Jesus. They think that it was a double on the cross lol . And stoning is in the Coran

[truecall2]

Sarahtolila Yes everybody has a sin but which sin is Jesus referring to. I know adultery. the hypocrites of that time were accusing a woman of adultery and were testing Jesus that will he reject the old God given Law which was given to Moses at the mount.

Jesus was really saying if your free from the same sin then cast the stone if you have committed the same sin then you cant cast the stone because they will be committing another sin called hypocrisy.

[hephaistos34]

No dickhead, he was using an image to prove that nobody had the right to punish sby else for a sin ;simply because nobody is sinless!!! He was just trying to point the iniquity of such a treatment to any kind of sinner. I know this sounds too subtle for your oyster brain!!!

[truecall2]

If Im a dickhead then you are a biggest Dickhead.

First of all we shouldnt be arguing over this because high Christian scholars agree this verse is an interpolation wasnt in the earlier texts.

You said Simply because nobody is sinless thats what Im saying example modern day court when juries are selected the juries will be checked for criminal records if they have a criminal record they will not be allowed to join the juries.

[hephaistos34]

This is what U read on your favourite islamic websites I guess!!

A sin is not obviuosly a crime, which is difrent. Everybody lies, and yet while being a liar you can be a jury. By the way U muslim are professional liars and still U got the right to be members of a jury or to be judges!!! I don't consider adultery a crime!!!

[truecall2]

No yur the professional liar who deludes other people. cat got yur thung yu cant take the truth & yu are accusing me.

You dont consider adultery a crime because you love committing it & you like seeing partners cheating on each other which is abuse.

[hephaistos34]

Adultery is not a crime except for backward twats like U!!!

[truecall2]

hephaistos34 Islamic websites you nut bag I was describing a modern day court room. You say sin is not a crime well you see lesser sins are not but major sins are according to all religions around world not only Islam you hypocrite. You can be a jury even yur a liar yes if the court system doesnt know if thats yur intention.

[hephaistos34]

U muslims are allowed by the quran to lie to non musulims, shall we forbid U to be jury members or judges?

[truecall2]

Sarahtolila Stoning was inhuman well according to you not to Jesus because remember Jesus cant break the old God given Law.

Ill tell you whats inhuman throwing bombs from b52 bombers killing innocent woman & children then calling it collateral damage. Torturing innocent people like animals & parading them naked in front of cameras and saying thumbs up bravo. Also France is a dictatorship & a racist country.

[Sarahtolila]

Wow, you mix everythinh even if it has nothing to do.

[truecall2]

Sarahtolila if you look at french history its pretty nasty?.

[Sarahtolila]

Yeah thats very nasty almost as nasty as the muslim conquests : D

BTW, we are in 2009 and what hase history to do with that ?

[hephaistos34]

Truecall: France is a dictatorship. Yeah, right;, then tell me why thousands of muslims keep on coming to France? Do u think a dictatorship would give food, shelter and health cares for free to ungrateful people like the musulims?

[Sarahtolila]

And women in the old Greece or in Rome, or in China had more rights than today's women in some muslim countries

[fromwilliams]

You express loathing and hatred for Muslims. You are taking actions based on a stereotype of "stupid extremists". It appears you are an Islamophobic. I suspect you have been "innoculated" from bigotry and prejudice. Islamophobia exists all over the world.You need to form an "open ended paradigm". Unless you draw forth the courage to fight your pre-conceptions, laziness, fear and hate both inside and out, things will not improve for you.

[TheChantalla]

yayayayayayayayayay!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!! SARKOZI i love you! You are a PRESIDENT we need here in BRITAIN!!!! Finally someone stands up to these stupid extremists!!!!!

Women have rights in the western world get fu**ing use to it !!!

HAHAHAHAHA ... i hope some sick extremist muslim man reads this and realises there is nothing you can do to control the women in the western world !!!! Feels good doesnt it :)))))

[quickfixyz]

muslims all over the world ban any product made in france.

[Razzel2006]

muslims are just silly fucking hypocrites, religious or culturas doesnt really matter, when the goverment implements a rule in a certain country it has to be followed when you step on that land ,no matter what your believes are. i was saudi arabia with my wife she were head scarf because we respected the law of the land. but when it happens the other way round muslims start saying,"oh its an attack on us". simple hypocrysy, if they dont like the law then go to a country which does allow it.

[cyklonb1989]

I agree with every word except I would like to add the hypocrisy also runs deep in the so called 'liberals'. When non-muslim women goes to a muslim country they had to cover their face as if it's a sin. These liberals will support that by claiming 'respect for other people's culture'.

[mebdoc]

Pardon my ignorance- is he considering a ban on the full facial covering and is the head covering ok? I don't think he can advocate a ban on head covering.

[Sarahtolila]

It is about the full facial covering. It is a risk of publi security.

[fromwilliams]

The burqa is cultural not religious. You may hate it but the French government likes inviting migrant workers from it's ex-colonies, FULLY WELL KNOWING how they dress.

[hephaistos34]

NOpe, the French government does not invite them, they come alone, uninvited. We have to expel thousands of them every year!!!

[darrenpatrick2000]

ban the burka. I hate it, its ugly. Fucking muslims and their political correctness.... Go back to your countries and wear that bullshit. Western women have to wear a head scarf if they travel to Iran. Its unthinkable to protest this rule there. So why is there such an uproar when a western country set a dress code for women. GO BACK TO YOUR HOT ASS FUCKING COUNTRY AND WEAR THAT BULLSHIT!!!!!

[fromwilliams]

This is a racist attack designed to divert attention from the recession. Sarkozy will soon massively cut social spending, jobs and living standards. As a smokescreen, he is attacking Muslim women in the name of liberating them. But of course it is not about secularism, or releasing women from the prison of the burqa. It is the exact opposite. It is about imprisoning women in Sarkozys stereotype of liberation, a liberation into wage slavery and oppression under capitalism for women.

[hephaistos34]

Right, most of the muslims who are in France don't work anyway, so paycuts won't bother them!!!

[fromwilliams]

It is about scapegoating, creating the conditions for renewed attacks on blacks, muslims and jews in France. Sarkozys hope is that working people will move away from industrial action against his policies (especially as his attacks become more brutal) to blaming minorities for their problems, problems like underfunded schools and hospitals, rising unemployment and falling living standards.

[fromwilliams]

The mood among some sections of the French working class is combative as three general strikes recently show. Sarkozy fears the working class spark that could destroy him and his regime. The other distracts attention from the class struggle. Sarkozy is the Bush of the burqa!

[Azurju]

What would happen if a western woman wore a bikini down the street of an Islamic country?

We are expected to respect this, so when Islamic woman go to France they can respect the value system of France.

[tung2sai]

It's questionable to many modern or "liberal" eyes, but the angle is a bit different in places where they have a type of clear identity of heritage back by old customs and a long history. I may not personally agree with banning certain things, but it is their "internal affairs".

[fromwilliams]

Banning the burka to combat integration problems is as senseless and unproductive as banning cosmetic surgery to combat gender oppression. Also, no subservience in pornography Sarkozy??

[truecall2]

Sarkozy has proved that they don't really have freedom and they go around claiming to other countries that they have.

Mr Sarkozy is suffering from misconception syndrome.

[zio5q]

Good work!

[007avner]

Bravo Sarko..........non islamic nations too implement this as a part of safety.

[007avner]

Bravo Sarkozy....you are right. The non-islamic nations too should follow this as part of safety.

[cyklonb1989]

finally a leader who is willing to make a stand against Islamification of Europe.

[davidn87]

Bravo France!

[truecall2]

yes bravo france the racist country

[davidn87]

I will never understand why this is classed as racism, it's not against a race of people, it's against a dangerous cult which is the greatest threat mankind has ever faced.

[truecall2]

racist france

[MuslimGirl1989]

That is Ridiculous, Burkas are not Cultural they are Islamic (Religious).

As a Girl who wears the Burka, Even though I don't wear the face veil, but wear the rest of the Islamic Clothing, I feel MORE FREE wearing a burka, then I did with other clothes, since I started University, I feel MORE FREE and LESS JUDGED. I was born and bred in England & wearing the burka for 2 years now I feel comfortable then I ever was. Its appalling what the French President said and what he's about to do.

[fromwilliams]

The burka is not religious, it is cultural. Sarkozy you haven't done your homework. Sarkozy you worried burka women don't use French cosmetics? Don't worry they do, for their husbands only.

[amaqula]

Silly France is trying to maintain secular supremacy. But this is an impossiblity as secularism with its distaste for the traditional roles of women as mothers and wives actually undermines itself. Eventually secularists will be outnumbered by Muslims - as birthrates and immigration forecasts predict.

Only a Catholic state and the Catholic faith will survive and resist Islam for you. Otherwise forget it!!

[Imthemaster22]

And at what point will Sarkozy be advocating for the banning of other forms of religious orthodoxy, like those in the Talmud?

[ktchong]

You know, France is free to ban whatever culture they want. As Chinese like to say, "it's their internal affair and nobody else."

Of course, France and the entire Western Europe are on a suicidal path to let Muslims mass immigrate into their countries, and let Islam wipe out and replace their own cultures that has always been drastically different *and* incompatible with Islam.  But it's their internal affair to commit cultural suicide.

[davidn87]

Indeed, it's the "bloodless genocide" as some have been calling it.