@daboss420edi Ha ha! I guess we just found the "village idiot", didn't we. I wont say much more than this, but you may want to double-check your info a bit..
@originaldriver lemme make this simple for you lol, i did make a mistake, its a 3.8l.... either way... its still almost half the displacement, and down 2 cylinders and it makes more power.... its twin turbos also are very responsive and offer little lagg or none at all
Honestly? I think the Boss 302 Laguna Seca would've been a much better choice over the GT500 for this kind of track. But of course they didnt do that because the Laguna Seca isnt in the 500 horsepower range.
@originaldriver The GT500 WAS squashed. You actually watched the video right? But anyways, the BOSS 302 LS is a much better car than the Shelby by a long shot, it has less horsepower but because of an amazing suspension set up it has a faster 1/4 mile time. So for a track like this, I think it would come closer to the Vette and Godzilla.
If he had used the Stability Control on the Corvette, he would've done a much faster lap. I mean, it is not considered cheating if the GT-R also uses these things.
What I like about these 3 cars is the aftermarket world has so many cool performance parts to increase power to your liking and numerous shops willing to do the work. Can't say that with a lot of the 300k and higher supercars. You're kinda stuck with what you get (albeit pretty quick)
I will take that into account but if it's a trackcar like every claims it 2 be then u would understand that for a rear wheel drive car 2 beat an all wheel drive with more bhp is a little silly don't u think on a track where that GTR should eat both of them up fact of the mater is it still is only 0.20 of a second slower then a more horsepower GTR that weighs more and a corvette weighs less because that's how a race car should be lots of power and weighs nothing a key factor if your racing on a
It doesnt matter how much i like Mustangs or corvettes, im a car enthusiast, and obsviously the GTR outstand between this cars.AWD allow you to accelerate more in corners, faster than RWD cars. ( Sorry for my bad english ).
So let me get this strait with all the controls off a rear wheel drive vette it was 1.20.45slower then a1.20.21 all wheel drive GTR I'll take my vette with better tires put on it thank u and will haul ass in strait and will run with the great GTR in the corners blow GTR
@noahmiller6 LOL!! Take into account that the GTR has an extra 700 pounds in weight,Think about it that is like have four 200+ pound people sitting in it ,where as the vette is only a two seater plastic piece of shit ;-D
corvette with out all the controls tho""" GTR high rev engine to feel the power high rev means non durability , with me that GTR woudnt stand the durability chance when it comes to my big foot and the changed to auto trainny probably coz the manual keeps breaking frm what i have known and it costs the down payment of a vette lol what a rip of concidering how shity is to last. GTR my ass
i respect all these cars but is it me or does the ford seem to have the best interior? they all look nice but they cheap, gray painted rings around the nissans gauges are hideous and the corvette, although its nice as well and posts amazing numbers (as does the gtr) i still would like to see which ones interior stands the test of time. id say the gt500 lasts the longest.
I don't believe there is an obvious choice. I'm extremely torn between all 3. The gt500 would be the best street car if you plan on driving a lot, and the easiest on your wallet, but let me remind you the gt500 was not aimed at the z06 or GTR. The z06 and GTR are similar in a performance aspect, and are made to compete for each other and prove that by almost identical numbers. It purely comes down to personal preference with these two.
@randumbuller To me a street car should be fun to drive, it's more important than the raw numbers in a race track. As Randy Pobst said the GTR is boring to race, in every day life it will be even more boring to drive due to the fact that it's so easy to drive, even Paris Hilton can drive that! The other two are designed to reward to real driver that likes to do things manual.
@LeontariF1 You see.. that's so debatable. Because I went to a GTR workshop at my local racetrack (MSR Houston) and the GTR isn't boring AT ALL. Various racers have said this, "If people think that this vehicle is actually boring to drive, they've never driven it." With Randy Pobst, being a professional and constant manual driver, then yes, I can see how the GTR can be boring to him. But to a majority of these YouTube commenters, no. Plus Randy's words are biased against non-domestic vehicles.
Why is a mustang in this? Im sorry but I thought this was a sports car video.. Gt500 is a muscle car!!! It could not hold its own against these on a track.
I would take the Vette. It's a true drivers car. You don't have a computer controlling every aspect of your drive. Shifting, traction, cornering etc.. A kid could drive the GTR with all of the assists. I do think it's a true marvel in engineering, but I prefer something with more of a "raw" feeling on the road.
AWD and Twin Turbo is arguably the best combination for street cars! If it wasn't obvious, he was a little bias towards American muscle... but he knows what AWD does!
I hope I don't get the fan boys angry with this post, buuut:
Am I the only one who think it's funny how the GTR was the only V6. heaviest, non-american car in this test, yet still came out on top,, in America? Lol
@lagoskid There isn't much to compare here. Of course the AWD GT-R will beat the muscle cars on a road course, but in America there's plenty of room to run, and as can be seen by the quarter-mile times, the corvette would've outrun the GT-R in the long haul. Also, the GT-R is running at such high rpm that the engine probably won't last nearly as long. For the price of the Nissan you might as well get the Stang and make a few modifications. I love the GT-R though.
@soonerfannathan Well, yes. The GTR being an AWD and the Vette being an RWD vehcile, the GTR loses power in the long haul; therefore, the Vette will lead. When you say that the engine probably won't last as long.. are you comparing the high rpm engine to that of the Chevy's? In that case, the Nissan engine is more superior. Also in this test, the guy didn't push the GTR as hard, he was shifting from 2-3 at ~5.5-6k rpm, I do more in my modded FX35.
@soonerfannathan Also, about the price. You see that's the thing.. this test wasn't about the price, the requirements were to be under 100k, though. But yes you COULD get a Stang and make a few modifications. But couldn't you get a Honda, as well, and make a few modifications?
@lagoskid Its kinda amazing to me that the same two cars in another comparison by "Car and Driver" ended up with the Z06 running faster lap times after a mere factory "tire change" to the Michelin pilot sport cup tires despite the fact that Nissan juiced up the HP and re-tuned the traction control.
@originaldriver Lol how's that funny? The Z06 is lighter, so if you were to expect the Z06 to win, then no it's not funny. I also don't know where you're getting your info from because on Car & Driver, it shows the 2008 and 2012 tests and the GTR topped the Z06 TWICE in final results. Also, the Z06 isn't even in the Top 20 for fastest lap times on Top Gear, whilst the GTR is in the top 10.
@originaldriver I don't know what article you're basing these stats from, but from what I googled and searched on MotorTrend, the GTR still beats the Z06.
@lagoskid "Denial" ain't just a river in Egypt, I see.
Bro... its not hard to find the videos. Just look up "Motor Trend 2011 hot-lap". There's a whole shit load of videos with all of the cars that "Motor Trend" tested to the hot lap at Laguna Seca for 2011. And in their among those little thumbnails, you will find the GTR and the 2012 Z06 there waiting for your viewing pleasure.
There! see? Now you know where to go.
While you are taking a serving of humble pie, I will continue LOLing. :)
@originaldriver So I DID see the videos via YouTube, NOT Motor Trend's website. I wasn't in denial at all. Google "2012 vette vs 2012 gtr" and see what you find. I find it HARD to believe that the Vette beat a Porsche GTR 3's time. Even in this video, the driver was biased. He clearly glorified both American cars and barely reached 5.5krpm on the GTR (in this video.)
Car & Driver/Top Gear/Road&Track still show the GTR above the Vette, 3 over 1 source. You can stand by MT.
@lagoskid Bias!? What are you talking about???? He's the SAME DRIVER from THIS VIDEO!!! Ha ha!
The only difference is he didn't use the traction control in this vid. (with which he would have been faster in this vid too, Ill add.) Ha ha! After all of the pumped up tuning for the 2012 GTR, the only change made to the 2012 Z06 centennial edition was magnetic suspension, carbon brakes and "tires". Ha ha ha ha ha!
GTR Fan-boy! Where is your god now? Ha ha ha ha ha ha! <-----(meniacal laughter)
@originaldriver Lol it's not funny. This test shows the GTR beating American cars (the driver loves) in America. Yes, he is the same driver; I never said he wasn't? Listen to how he compliments the other cars as opposed to the GTR. I'm not a fan boy and Motor Trend isn't as accredited as the other 3 sources I listed.
By the end of the year, the Nissan GTR will still reside over the z06 over various test throughout various sources. HA HA HA. :]
@lagoskid Dont get me wrong... The GTR is a fast car. In some ways, maybe even a better of a car than the Z06. But after all of the "high tech" tuning and the power for the 2012 model that Nissan poured the GTR to compete with the ZR1, All GM did was to add a set of "tires" to the ZO6 to make it faster.
Its almost like a athletic runner training hard to beat a rival only to be beaten by the rivals little brother because he was wearing a good pair running shoes to the track meet.
Actually the Z06 in this vid is not different to the 2012 model apart from the tires! LOOOOOL!!!
The T/C? Faster? HUH? no it wouldn't because the T/C is rubbish in the Z06! LOL!!!
Also the T/C in the GTR was put into race or R mode to turn the T/C the VDC button needs to be turned OFF! And as Fifth Gear proved the GTR with it's VDC on is faster. So if that was off the GTR would have been faster LOOOOL!
@sw1000xg Nope... wrong. The Launch control and TC were re-tuned for both the ZR1 and the Z06 2012 model. So no mistakes made, bro.
Not to say that the VDC being "on" wont make up an entire 2 secs (which it wont) , but the fact remains that it was whooped 2 1/2 buss lengths by a "push-rod" v8, RWD car that had little more than a tire change and the TC turned on. This aint about "what-ifs" son. Just hard fact.
I don't know about you, but where we come from, we called that an "Ass whoopin".
Watch from 3:30 until your bored! 1 second faster without VDC on LOL!
I lol at you! MT didn't turn the T/C off! Randy at 16:55 CORNERING WIDER in the GTR that's AWD and corners faster (hmmm wonder why he did that), takes hands of the wheel TWICE not once TWICE hmmmmm wonder why he did that too?
Randy EVEN states the Vette would win? Hmmmm wonder why he would say that? And look at his face when the Vette loses it's oh so sad!
@lagoskid Funny, but America is a Continent... ONE, SINGLE. You mean Canada? or United States?
Don't get angry, but i'm living in central America and all we know that America is ONE Dividided in 4 parts, North, Central, South and Caribean America.
Any way. The choice of the GTR is very nice. I think the same.
@XmodGT1 I'm not angry. I said "America," which probably left you confused with my "ambiguous" word. With this test being in the United States of America, you can fully assume that when I said "america" I mean the United States of America.
Even if I were to refer "America" as the continent "North America," the comment is STILL correct. No point in trying to give me a geography lesson.
@nyphon So WHAT? Lol that all goes to the interior. Compare that interior to any Chevy/Ford vehicle besides the Cadillac line. Even a Ford Expedition can cost more than GT500.
ford 49k, chevy 71k, nissan 91k. which do you think should be better? almost costing twice as much as a ford and almost 1.5x more than a chevy its pretty obvious what should be more better. so WHAT? thats a big difference. and you get what you pay for. id rather get the corvette, and a commuting car AND still have money left over then get the nissan. your making a very narrow statement.
@nyphon with 49k you buy an used mercedes s63 amg from 2002 or 2001 and you have a faster car, and you can use it every day, with 49k, you buy a used skyline r34 gtr and you have a faster car, with 49k you can get a lot of better cars, but if you want to compete with high performance cars for less money than 100k you have to buy the gtr.
@lagoskid not a fan boy just making a comment everyone says the gtr just has a v-6, but a twin turbo v-6 in my opinion; the right combination of (turbos+ properly built engine) out performs almost any v8. Look at what audi did with the b5 s4 (97-2000 model) properly tuned that car out performs modern day cars in its class. not taking anything away from the gtr tho its one hell of a car
@imaraider43 Lol I guess, I just appreciate the fact that Nissan built such a good car, especially for the money. I hope Toyota can actually make a reasonably good car through it's discontinued Supra line.
@W33Dblazer so what? can the shelby keep up with a lambo lp560? can the corvette keep up with a ferrari f458? i don't think so, ou can put 10k to tune the gtr and you have a supercar than can keep up with all those cars. the gtr has a luxury interior, 4 seats, a lot of tecnology and equipment and it's fast as hell. the corvette it's good but the gtr it's the king of all cars because it's "cheap" and it's rivals are 3 times more expensive.
@W33Dblazer the gtr has four seats , a better fuel economy and a luxury interior, you can use it every day, and you can race to, the corvette it's made to be fun, with a big v8 7.0 engine , a manual transmission and the rear wheel drive it's only for ocassional use.
the gtr, sounds nice too, but it's a diferent kind of car and in my opinion it's better than the corvette z06.
@focarfa gtr is a better car, but it doesnt get better fuel economy then z06 (gets over 30mpg on highways), and nope gtr is not a good daily driver its just a good track car
@W33Dblazer Haha..The Gtr most definitely gets better fuel economy than the z06 for everyday driving, and the Gtr is an excellent daily driver, I don't know how you can say it isn't? It's comfortable, rides well and it is as easy to drive as a nissan micra.
@highflyer4 the 2012 nissan gtr acelerates faster than the aventador in the 0-100. and it's 0.8 seconds faster than the z06 in a drag race, it can easily keep up with a z06 in the track and with more weight.
the z06 it's an awesome car, but the gtr it's a supercar.
@highflyer4 look, with 140 hp less than the ferrari can keep up, but because it's heavy and it have less power than the zr1 or the ferrari lose the race.
the manual gearbox it's awesome, but the automatic rules now.
@sp1tf1r321 " if the gtr was stick the vette would of won." So why would you want it to be stick? Yes, the ZR1 would have won, with it having even MORE horsepower and still lighter. But that corvette model would be over 100k. They're only testing supercars under the 100k range.
Nissan is the dark horse?! I could have told you before watching any of this the nissan was going to win without a doubt plus if he drove to nissan to the limit instead of doing a sunday drive he would have won by about a million miles.
the nissan is the best in performance but it just looks like a customized altima...if would be nice if they will make the next gtr really looks like a super car..like LFA or nsx
one of my favorite cars from child it was always the vette, it has so much in common wiv me, let me tell you why, the one on here is the Z06, my nickname at home its "Zed", my date of birth its on the 6th, do i really need to do the math here, enuff said, its a shame the other 2 contestants (GTR and Pony) are also my very favour.
@wildbloodydragon The GT-R is barely more expensive than in the USA... The chevy & shelby can cost 2 times of the price in USA. In my country the Z06 cost almost 200 k€.
@wildbloodydragon Yes, that's true. The tax in my country in penalizing for the GM cars because of the high CO2 emissions and the huge displacement (compared with the nissan).
@joinbd I'm guessing it's the engine displacement that is taxed. Which is ironic because a Z06 is actually more economical (by that I mean better gas mileage) than a GT-R, a Ferrari 458, Ford GT, and every Lamborghini ever made, despite having 7.0 liter engine.
@12valvepower4 with the disadvantage of traction and paddle shifters which it doesn't have (but it's more pure that way) and it has a higher trap speed as well, most likely passing the GTR as speeds climb, an all of the GTR's electronic advantages do it no good any more..
both on sticky street tires. to its credit.. it was hot out.. which does not help turbo cars. but still. corvette beat gtr. we won something. 520 hp vs 505 hp. corvette gave up power. but was lighter and better balanced. it won. inside line video. check it out
@12valvepower4 yeah z06 tested by americans in america hhrrrmm with track/road tyres while gtr ran with regular street tyres. how do you explain topgear who ban track/street tyres tested the gtr which was quicker than your big daddy zr1 by 3 seconds and z06 by 5seconds? then the gtr was quicker than the zr1 at tsukubsa, and mt fuji by a relatively large margin. so dont yap on about the z06 being quicker than a gtr when the big daddy zr1 is heaps slower than the gtr when using the same tyres haha
@grant4life13 Yes it would. Plus the driver shut off The electronic controls. The 2012 Z06 beats 2013gtr premium. Z06 1.22.7sec. Gtr Premium 1.23.8 With electric controls on. Watch?v=cVw3-vNtzrc
@EdStockman the gtr is way heavy for a car that beats a zr1 when racing fairly with the same tyres. the gtr is 1720kgs thats fukn heavy compared to a zr1 that is 1500 kgs
Though I've only driven Volkswagens since I could drive, I've been lusting after the GT-R recently. It seems too good to be true. I may, however, have to settle for an R32 with my budget... or an old Audi 5000 Avant...
lol nissan can't burn tyres. shit car
SilvrBckGorilla 14 hours ago
whats impressive? the Z06 is naturally aspirated the other 2 cars have forced induction. Z06 WIN!
DoomXexec311 19 hours ago
@DoomXexec311 lol zo6 is a 7.0l..... and the gtr is a 3.0 and has more hp
daboss420edi 19 hours ago
@daboss420edi 3.8**
pringlesbbq 16 hours ago
@daboss420edi Ha ha! I guess we just found the "village idiot", didn't we. I wont say much more than this, but you may want to double-check your info a bit..
originaldriver 7 hours ago
@originaldriver um... my info came straight out of the video.....
daboss420edi 2 hours ago
@originaldriver lemme make this simple for you lol, i did make a mistake, its a 3.8l.... either way... its still almost half the displacement, and down 2 cylinders and it makes more power.... its twin turbos also are very responsive and offer little lagg or none at all
daboss420edi 2 hours ago
@daboss420edi GTR is the best
CATALYN92 2 hours ago
I think I get what he's saying, It takes a better driver to drive a shittier car. Makes sense to me.
TaylorB440 1 day ago
What the hell is the mustang doing here with those cars?
14231424 1 day ago
the race track? corvette
2012CamaroZL1IsEpic 1 day ago
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the corvette beats the gtr on any track
erich1313sch 2 days ago
Honestly? I think the Boss 302 Laguna Seca would've been a much better choice over the GT500 for this kind of track. But of course they didnt do that because the Laguna Seca isnt in the 500 horsepower range.
jjhoops023 2 days ago
@jjhoops023 There's no mustang in the world that belonged anywhere near this comparison. GT500 would been squashed too.
originaldriver 1 day ago
@originaldriver The GT500 WAS squashed. You actually watched the video right? But anyways, the BOSS 302 LS is a much better car than the Shelby by a long shot, it has less horsepower but because of an amazing suspension set up it has a faster 1/4 mile time. So for a track like this, I think it would come closer to the Vette and Godzilla.
jjhoops023 12 hours ago
Help! ;)
What's the name of the song in the beginning of the video?
itix1 2 days ago in playlist 2012 new GTR
If he had used the Stability Control on the Corvette, he would've done a much faster lap. I mean, it is not considered cheating if the GT-R also uses these things.
nortenero 3 days ago
What I like about these 3 cars is the aftermarket world has so many cool performance parts to increase power to your liking and numerous shops willing to do the work. Can't say that with a lot of the 300k and higher supercars. You're kinda stuck with what you get (albeit pretty quick)
bocajuniors55 3 days ago
SANTAVLAUSESUCKS read down \/
noahmiller6 4 days ago
I will take that into account but if it's a trackcar like every claims it 2 be then u would understand that for a rear wheel drive car 2 beat an all wheel drive with more bhp is a little silly don't u think on a track where that GTR should eat both of them up fact of the mater is it still is only 0.20 of a second slower then a more horsepower GTR that weighs more and a corvette weighs less because that's how a race car should be lots of power and weighs nothing a key factor if your racing on a
noahmiller6 4 days ago
2012 GTR has 550 HP, not 530.
A4CP 4 days ago
I'd get a GT-R to put a P800 kit on it, and just own other cars.
Then I'd get a GT500 to cruise through the country like a boss.
And an E60 BMW M5 just because it's sexy.
Calaghi 4 days ago
They should have had the new supersnake, but then again a mustang with over 700 hp to the wheels might not be fair.
marriedncute 4 days ago
damn the Z06 just sounds so sick.
sixty9fbody 5 days ago
Sports Cars, not supercars.
It doesnt matter how much i like Mustangs or corvettes, im a car enthusiast, and obsviously the GTR outstand between this cars.AWD allow you to accelerate more in corners, faster than RWD cars. ( Sorry for my bad english ).
Superchips149 5 days ago
So let me get this strait with all the controls off a rear wheel drive vette it was 1.20.45slower then a1.20.21 all wheel drive GTR I'll take my vette with better tires put on it thank u and will haul ass in strait and will run with the great GTR in the corners blow GTR
noahmiller6 5 days ago
@noahmiller6 LOL!! Take into account that the GTR has an extra 700 pounds in weight,Think about it that is like have four 200+ pound people sitting in it ,where as the vette is only a two seater plastic piece of shit ;-D
SANTACLAUSESUCKS 5 days ago
corvette with out all the controls tho""" GTR high rev engine to feel the power high rev means non durability , with me that GTR woudnt stand the durability chance when it comes to my big foot and the changed to auto trainny probably coz the manual keeps breaking frm what i have known and it costs the down payment of a vette lol what a rip of concidering how shity is to last. GTR my ass
IssaBendeck1 5 days ago
i respect all these cars but is it me or does the ford seem to have the best interior? they all look nice but they cheap, gray painted rings around the nissans gauges are hideous and the corvette, although its nice as well and posts amazing numbers (as does the gtr) i still would like to see which ones interior stands the test of time. id say the gt500 lasts the longest.
Karpinski29 5 days ago 2
well, considering realistically the gtr goes for OVER 100k it shouldnt be in here
snowleps2891 5 days ago
@snowleps2891 dunnoe what ur saying but the guy literally just said 91 grand
dascoolman13 5 days ago
@dascoolman13 right, i know, maybe from the factory, as soon as it hits the sales floor its over 100k, i work at a nissan dealership, we have 1, 104k
snowleps2891 4 days ago
while the corevette and the mustang are busy spinning their tires, the gtr has already gone a 1/4 mile.
neils68 5 days ago
@codymac181 this is a test for 5 figure (under $100,000) "budget" supercars. since the zr1 starts at $111,600 it isn't included in the test.
tittiebanana 5 days ago
Where is the ZR1?
codymac181 6 days ago
I don't believe there is an obvious choice. I'm extremely torn between all 3. The gt500 would be the best street car if you plan on driving a lot, and the easiest on your wallet, but let me remind you the gt500 was not aimed at the z06 or GTR. The z06 and GTR are similar in a performance aspect, and are made to compete for each other and prove that by almost identical numbers. It purely comes down to personal preference with these two.
randumbuller 6 days ago
@randumbuller To me a street car should be fun to drive, it's more important than the raw numbers in a race track. As Randy Pobst said the GTR is boring to race, in every day life it will be even more boring to drive due to the fact that it's so easy to drive, even Paris Hilton can drive that! The other two are designed to reward to real driver that likes to do things manual.
LeontariF1 5 days ago
@LeontariF1 You see.. that's so debatable. Because I went to a GTR workshop at my local racetrack (MSR Houston) and the GTR isn't boring AT ALL. Various racers have said this, "If people think that this vehicle is actually boring to drive, they've never driven it." With Randy Pobst, being a professional and constant manual driver, then yes, I can see how the GTR can be boring to him. But to a majority of these YouTube commenters, no. Plus Randy's words are biased against non-domestic vehicles.
lagoskid 5 days ago
GT500 baby ;)
USSWISCONSIN64 6 days ago
6:00 what the fuck is up with the awkward ass seats?!
randumbuller 6 days ago
Why is a mustang in this? Im sorry but I thought this was a sports car video.. Gt500 is a muscle car!!! It could not hold its own against these on a track.
pantsparty193 6 days ago
did anyone else see the 2.9 0-60 time!
m249a1 6 days ago
lol stupid america...... all u know just only going straight? lmao that isnt call a sport car at all
herojack41 6 days ago
@herojack41 you obviously know nothing about American race car history and sound like another angry foreigner who wishes his gas prices were lower.
m249a1 6 days ago
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CMEZ010897 6 days ago
The Mustang should not even be there.
Croozer 6 days ago
Where is the EVO?
Xx540rTyxX 6 days ago
I would take the Vette. It's a true drivers car. You don't have a computer controlling every aspect of your drive. Shifting, traction, cornering etc.. A kid could drive the GTR with all of the assists. I do think it's a true marvel in engineering, but I prefer something with more of a "raw" feeling on the road.
JoeyandLindsay 6 days ago
The GT-R's bread and butter is AWD.
im1greatman 6 days ago
How do you become a PRO SPORT car racer? I bet I would own this category.
ezrahumane 1 week ago
if the GT-R would be a RWD it woundt be the same outcome. muscle cars only use RWD
Bigmiquimby 1 week ago
The Mustang is the most bang for your buck. And its not in the same class as the GT-R, it might be with the basic corvette.
Bigmiquimby 1 week ago
Japanese make the best cars of course gtr!!
diuleil 1 week ago
AWD and Twin Turbo is arguably the best combination for street cars! If it wasn't obvious, he was a little bias towards American muscle... but he knows what AWD does!
Smitty4thgen11 1 week ago
how can them camper between super car like GT-R and american muscle cars Is not permissible ...
theaviator19900 1 week ago
im not sure why people insist on comparing AWD vehicles to RWD vehicles.
laptoph4x 1 week ago
I hope I don't get the fan boys angry with this post, buuut:
Am I the only one who think it's funny how the GTR was the only V6. heaviest, non-american car in this test, yet still came out on top,, in America? Lol
lagoskid 1 week ago 36
@lagoskid There isn't much to compare here. Of course the AWD GT-R will beat the muscle cars on a road course, but in America there's plenty of room to run, and as can be seen by the quarter-mile times, the corvette would've outrun the GT-R in the long haul. Also, the GT-R is running at such high rpm that the engine probably won't last nearly as long. For the price of the Nissan you might as well get the Stang and make a few modifications. I love the GT-R though.
soonerfannathan 1 week ago
@soonerfannathan Well, yes. The GTR being an AWD and the Vette being an RWD vehcile, the GTR loses power in the long haul; therefore, the Vette will lead. When you say that the engine probably won't last as long.. are you comparing the high rpm engine to that of the Chevy's? In that case, the Nissan engine is more superior. Also in this test, the guy didn't push the GTR as hard, he was shifting from 2-3 at ~5.5-6k rpm, I do more in my modded FX35.
lagoskid 1 week ago
@soonerfannathan Also, about the price. You see that's the thing.. this test wasn't about the price, the requirements were to be under 100k, though. But yes you COULD get a Stang and make a few modifications. But couldn't you get a Honda, as well, and make a few modifications?
lagoskid 1 week ago
@lagoskid Its kinda amazing to me that the same two cars in another comparison by "Car and Driver" ended up with the Z06 running faster lap times after a mere factory "tire change" to the Michelin pilot sport cup tires despite the fact that Nissan juiced up the HP and re-tuned the traction control.
Now THATs something to LOL at.
originaldriver 1 week ago
@originaldriver Lol how's that funny? The Z06 is lighter, so if you were to expect the Z06 to win, then no it's not funny. I also don't know where you're getting your info from because on Car & Driver, it shows the 2008 and 2012 tests and the GTR topped the Z06 TWICE in final results. Also, the Z06 isn't even in the Top 20 for fastest lap times on Top Gear, whilst the GTR is in the top 10.
lagoskid 1 week ago
@lagoskid Go look up "Motor-Trends" (not "Car and Driver", my bad) 2011 hot-lap camparison on Laguna Seca.
2012 Nissan GTR with increased HP, bumped up torque, and re-tuned TC 1:36:35
2012 ZO6 centennial edition with "tires" 1:34:43
LOL indeed. :)
originaldriver 6 days ago
@originaldriver I don't know what article you're basing these stats from, but from what I googled and searched on MotorTrend, the GTR still beats the Z06.
/roadtests/coupes/1104_2011_chevrolet_corvette_2011_ford_shelby_gt500_2012_nissan_gtr_comparison/viewall.html
lagoskid 6 days ago
@lagoskid "Denial" ain't just a river in Egypt, I see.
Bro... its not hard to find the videos. Just look up "Motor Trend 2011 hot-lap". There's a whole shit load of videos with all of the cars that "Motor Trend" tested to the hot lap at Laguna Seca for 2011. And in their among those little thumbnails, you will find the GTR and the 2012 Z06 there waiting for your viewing pleasure.
There! see? Now you know where to go.
While you are taking a serving of humble pie, I will continue LOLing. :)
originaldriver 6 days ago
@originaldriver So I DID see the videos via YouTube, NOT Motor Trend's website. I wasn't in denial at all. Google "2012 vette vs 2012 gtr" and see what you find. I find it HARD to believe that the Vette beat a Porsche GTR 3's time. Even in this video, the driver was biased. He clearly glorified both American cars and barely reached 5.5krpm on the GTR (in this video.)
Car & Driver/Top Gear/Road&Track still show the GTR above the Vette, 3 over 1 source. You can stand by MT.
lagoskid 6 days ago
@lagoskid Bias!? What are you talking about???? He's the SAME DRIVER from THIS VIDEO!!! Ha ha!
The only difference is he didn't use the traction control in this vid. (with which he would have been faster in this vid too, Ill add.) Ha ha! After all of the pumped up tuning for the 2012 GTR, the only change made to the 2012 Z06 centennial edition was magnetic suspension, carbon brakes and "tires". Ha ha ha ha ha!
GTR Fan-boy! Where is your god now? Ha ha ha ha ha ha! <-----(meniacal laughter)
originaldriver 6 days ago
@originaldriver Lol it's not funny. This test shows the GTR beating American cars (the driver loves) in America. Yes, he is the same driver; I never said he wasn't? Listen to how he compliments the other cars as opposed to the GTR. I'm not a fan boy and Motor Trend isn't as accredited as the other 3 sources I listed.
By the end of the year, the Nissan GTR will still reside over the z06 over various test throughout various sources. HA HA HA. :]
lagoskid 5 days ago
@lagoskid Dont get me wrong... The GTR is a fast car. In some ways, maybe even a better of a car than the Z06. But after all of the "high tech" tuning and the power for the 2012 model that Nissan poured the GTR to compete with the ZR1, All GM did was to add a set of "tires" to the ZO6 to make it faster.
Its almost like a athletic runner training hard to beat a rival only to be beaten by the rivals little brother because he was wearing a good pair running shoes to the track meet.
LOLOL
originaldriver 5 days ago
@originaldriver watch?v=XpqrH_uXzRw
Actually the Z06 in this vid is not different to the 2012 model apart from the tires! LOOOOOL!!!
The T/C? Faster? HUH? no it wouldn't because the T/C is rubbish in the Z06! LOL!!!
Also the T/C in the GTR was put into race or R mode to turn the T/C the VDC button needs to be turned OFF! And as Fifth Gear proved the GTR with it's VDC on is faster. So if that was off the GTR would have been faster LOOOOL!
sw1000xg 1 day ago
@sw1000xg Nope... wrong. The Launch control and TC were re-tuned for both the ZR1 and the Z06 2012 model. So no mistakes made, bro.
Not to say that the VDC being "on" wont make up an entire 2 secs (which it wont) , but the fact remains that it was whooped 2 1/2 buss lengths by a "push-rod" v8, RWD car that had little more than a tire change and the TC turned on. This aint about "what-ifs" son. Just hard fact.
I don't know about you, but where we come from, we called that an "Ass whoopin".
originaldriver 1 day ago
@originaldriver Yeah so "re-tuned" That Corvette had to stick track tires LOL! Just to compete LOL!
Fifth gear turned traction control off and gained 1 second over the VDC being on LOL!
And you can look that up here on Fifth Gear!
Tire change LOL! Le Mans racing compounds used in the MPSC ZP tires LOL! And you behave like the tires don't give an advantage LOL!
Anyone who goes to track days semi slicks will always give the advanatge LOL!
sw1000xg 6 hours ago
@originaldriver watch?v=ti59Eeh-cu0
Watch from 3:30 until your bored! 1 second faster without VDC on LOL!
I lol at you! MT didn't turn the T/C off! Randy at 16:55 CORNERING WIDER in the GTR that's AWD and corners faster (hmmm wonder why he did that), takes hands of the wheel TWICE not once TWICE hmmmmm wonder why he did that too?
Randy EVEN states the Vette would win? Hmmmm wonder why he would say that? And look at his face when the Vette loses it's oh so sad!
Gm sponsored MT LOL!
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Croozer 6 days ago
@lagoskid Its a all wheel drive, twin turbo V6 numbnutz.
Croozer 6 days ago
@Croozer you're mad.
lagoskid 6 days ago
@lagoskid LOL, so which car do you own, the GTR or the Z06?
Croozer 6 days ago
@Croozer I don't own either? I own a modded Infiniti FX35 and stock 370Z.
lagoskid 5 days ago
@lagoskid its an all wheel drive car
BenjaminintheAF 5 days ago
@lagoskid Funny, but America is a Continent... ONE, SINGLE. You mean Canada? or United States?
Don't get angry, but i'm living in central America and all we know that America is ONE Dividided in 4 parts, North, Central, South and Caribean America.
Any way. The choice of the GTR is very nice. I think the same.
XmodGT1 5 days ago
@XmodGT1 I'm not angry. I said "America," which probably left you confused with my "ambiguous" word. With this test being in the United States of America, you can fully assume that when I said "america" I mean the United States of America.
Even if I were to refer "America" as the continent "North America," the comment is STILL correct. No point in trying to give me a geography lesson.
lagoskid 5 days ago
@lagoskid Yes i know that people say America to refer to United States. But the correct way is call, like the real name.
Take care dude!
XmodGT1 5 days ago
@lagoskid
notice how its the most expensive? yeaaaa...
nyphon 4 days ago
@nyphon So WHAT? Lol that all goes to the interior. Compare that interior to any Chevy/Ford vehicle besides the Cadillac line. Even a Ford Expedition can cost more than GT500.
lagoskid 3 days ago
@lagoskid
ford 49k, chevy 71k, nissan 91k. which do you think should be better? almost costing twice as much as a ford and almost 1.5x more than a chevy its pretty obvious what should be more better. so WHAT? thats a big difference. and you get what you pay for. id rather get the corvette, and a commuting car AND still have money left over then get the nissan. your making a very narrow statement.
nyphon 3 days ago
@nyphon with 49k you buy an used mercedes s63 amg from 2002 or 2001 and you have a faster car, and you can use it every day, with 49k, you buy a used skyline r34 gtr and you have a faster car, with 49k you can get a lot of better cars, but if you want to compete with high performance cars for less money than 100k you have to buy the gtr.
focarfa 2 days ago
@lagoskid not a fan boy just making a comment everyone says the gtr just has a v-6, but a twin turbo v-6 in my opinion; the right combination of (turbos+ properly built engine) out performs almost any v8. Look at what audi did with the b5 s4 (97-2000 model) properly tuned that car out performs modern day cars in its class. not taking anything away from the gtr tho its one hell of a car
imaraider43 4 days ago
@imaraider43 Lol I guess, I just appreciate the fact that Nissan built such a good car, especially for the money. I hope Toyota can actually make a reasonably good car through it's discontinued Supra line.
lagoskid 3 days ago
@lagoskid but you dont point the turbos the gtr has....
W33Dblazer 3 days ago
@W33Dblazer so what? can the shelby keep up with a lambo lp560? can the corvette keep up with a ferrari f458? i don't think so, ou can put 10k to tune the gtr and you have a supercar than can keep up with all those cars. the gtr has a luxury interior, 4 seats, a lot of tecnology and equipment and it's fast as hell. the corvette it's good but the gtr it's the king of all cars because it's "cheap" and it's rivals are 3 times more expensive.
the american cars are uneficcient.
sorry for my english.
focarfa 3 days ago
@focarfa lol yea the corvette can keep up if you put 20k into it, just as cheap as a gtr but with a big v8 that roars past it
W33Dblazer 3 days ago
@W33Dblazer the gtr has four seats , a better fuel economy and a luxury interior, you can use it every day, and you can race to, the corvette it's made to be fun, with a big v8 7.0 engine , a manual transmission and the rear wheel drive it's only for ocassional use.
the gtr, sounds nice too, but it's a diferent kind of car and in my opinion it's better than the corvette z06.
focarfa 3 days ago
@focarfa gtr is a better car, but it doesnt get better fuel economy then z06 (gets over 30mpg on highways), and nope gtr is not a good daily driver its just a good track car
W33Dblazer 3 days ago
@W33Dblazer Haha..The Gtr most definitely gets better fuel economy than the z06 for everyday driving, and the Gtr is an excellent daily driver, I don't know how you can say it isn't? It's comfortable, rides well and it is as easy to drive as a nissan micra.
Super69Hotstuff 2 days ago
@Super69Hotstuff YEAH!
focarfa 2 days ago
@focarfa actually the zo6 with the zo7 package is faster then the 458 around laguna seca by over 2 secs. Motor trend already tested it.
highflyer4 2 days ago
@highflyer4 the 2012 nissan gtr acelerates faster than the aventador in the 0-100. and it's 0.8 seconds faster than the z06 in a drag race, it can easily keep up with a z06 in the track and with more weight.
the z06 it's an awesome car, but the gtr it's a supercar.
focarfa 2 days ago
@focarfa yes it can keep up with this zo6 they tested here not the one with the zo7 package they tested in there best drivers car comparison.
highflyer4 2 days ago
@highflyer4 it can keep up with any corvette in the track (except for the zr1)
focarfa 2 days ago
@focarfa and the zo7 package zo6
highflyer4 2 days ago
@focarfa /watch?v=mTCmNjHGzl0&list=PL8F0981B98726601A&index=4&feature=plcp thats the vid go check it out.
highflyer4 2 days ago
@highflyer4 look, with 140 hp less than the ferrari can keep up, but because it's heavy and it have less power than the zr1 or the ferrari lose the race.
the manual gearbox it's awesome, but the automatic rules now.
focarfa 2 days ago
The Ford GT cn do it
nousega13 1 week ago 2
@nousega13 No... it cant.
originaldriver 1 week ago
@originaldriver lmao
lagoskid 1 week ago
@originaldriver ok got it
nousega13 1 week ago
paddles are for pussys
sp1tf1r321 1 week ago
@sp1tf1r321 It must suck to get beat by one, right?
lagoskid 1 week ago
@lagoskid obviously somebody cant drive stick
sp1tf1r321 1 week ago
@sp1tf1r321 obviously you aren't talking about me.
lagoskid 1 week ago
@lagoskid if the gtr was stick the vette would of won. and if they had a zr1 the Nissan would of had no chance what so ever!
sp1tf1r321 1 week ago
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@sp1tf1r321 " if the gtr was stick the vette would of won." So why would you want it to be stick? Yes, the ZR1 would have won, with it having even MORE horsepower and still lighter. But that corvette model would be over 100k. They're only testing supercars under the 100k range.
lagoskid 1 week ago
GT-R would win even if you cut it in half...
themastermeat 1 week ago
Nissan is the dark horse?! I could have told you before watching any of this the nissan was going to win without a doubt plus if he drove to nissan to the limit instead of doing a sunday drive he would have won by about a million miles.
idiotzrule 1 week ago
I'd take a vette any day of the week
XfarglesX 1 week ago
@XfarglesX I'd take the GT-R any day of the week and twice on sunday. (I just don't want ending up crashing.) =)
g4g4g2 1 week ago
GT-R is the obvious Choice
Phoenix054 1 week ago 36
the mustangs a muscle car not supercar
hugebassfishing 1 week ago
@hugebassfishing No its technically a pony car, but performs well enough to be a sports car like these other two.
GMdrivingMOPARguy 6 days ago
1:00 bow to tha King!
rodrigoquiroz 1 week ago
The GT-R does 0-60 in the same time than a 700 PS Aventador!
EduWestCoastRap 1 week ago
the nissan is the best in performance but it just looks like a customized altima...if would be nice if they will make the next gtr really looks like a super car..like LFA or nsx
EvendimataE 1 week ago
makes me wanna trade in the 500 for the gt-r
Backstabbinbasterd 1 week ago
The GT-R isn't a real driver's car, all that technology takes the fun and excitement out of driving.
MisterPeetBull 1 week ago
@MisterPeetBull Want a drivers car? Get a Lotus!
rodrigoquiroz 1 week ago 2
Ford needs to make a sports car that isn't a Mustang or a GT that is reasonably priced
MisterPeetBull 1 week ago
I lol at the Camaro ZL1
NextGenTerminator 1 week ago
the new Shelby has 650. i think this test needs an up date
EpiclyLost 1 week ago
one of my favorite cars from child it was always the vette, it has so much in common wiv me, let me tell you why, the one on here is the Z06, my nickname at home its "Zed", my date of birth its on the 6th, do i really need to do the math here, enuff said, its a shame the other 2 contestants (GTR and Pony) are also my very favour.
zekalves1 1 week ago
Corvette best looking car there
GLSForever77 1 week ago
No ZR-1 here quit talking about it The GT-R is king of the road.
MrHeadshot1982 1 week ago
You know those cars (chevy & shelby) are much more expensive outside of the US right?
zlyable 1 week ago
@zlyable So is the GT-R, from what I've heard.
wildbloodydragon 1 week ago
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joinbd 1 week ago
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joinbd 1 week ago
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@wildbloodydragon The GT-R is barely more expensive than in the USA... The chevy & shelby can cost 2 times of the price in USA. In my country the Z06 cost almost 200 k€.
joinbd 1 week ago
@joinbd From what I know, a GT-R costs about a 70,000 Euros and a Camaro about 40,000.
But that depends on your laws, obviously. It's not GM's fault that these cars more expensive in your country, it's most likely the taxes.
wildbloodydragon 1 week ago
@wildbloodydragon Yes, that's true. The tax in my country in penalizing for the GM cars because of the high CO2 emissions and the huge displacement (compared with the nissan).
joinbd 1 week ago
@joinbd I'm guessing it's the engine displacement that is taxed. Which is ironic because a Z06 is actually more economical (by that I mean better gas mileage) than a GT-R, a Ferrari 458, Ford GT, and every Lamborghini ever made, despite having 7.0 liter engine.
wildbloodydragon 1 week ago
9:49 scared the shit outta me!
XXGUNNERSXX 1 week ago
I like the GTR
rollipolli4 1 week ago
GTR Cheaper? He said it was worth 91k?
350GOAT 1 week ago
remember. that there is the zr1.
12valvepower4 1 week ago
@12valvepower4 the ZR1 is more than 100K. these are all "under $100K".
yewuntthu 1 week ago
corvette is slower in quarter. but not by much. 11.8 vs 11.2 that is damn good for 2wd.
12valvepower4 1 week ago
@12valvepower4 with the disadvantage of traction and paddle shifters which it doesn't have (but it's more pure that way) and it has a higher trap speed as well, most likely passing the GTR as speeds climb, an all of the GTR's electronic advantages do it no good any more..
supra1722 1 week ago
@12valvepower4 that's with a bad driver, you can get 10.66 in a zr1 and a 11.02 in a zo6 both 2009 versions.
Bravo12RX 1 week ago
both on sticky street tires. to its credit.. it was hot out.. which does not help turbo cars. but still. corvette beat gtr. we won something. 520 hp vs 505 hp. corvette gave up power. but was lighter and better balanced. it won. inside line video. check it out
12valvepower4 1 week ago
corvette z06. beat the gtr in a road course event. .. by one second. 427 chevy beats awd godzilla in its own element. take that japan. AMERICA!
12valvepower4 1 week ago
@12valvepower4 yeah z06 tested by americans in america hhrrrmm with track/road tyres while gtr ran with regular street tyres. how do you explain topgear who ban track/street tyres tested the gtr which was quicker than your big daddy zr1 by 3 seconds and z06 by 5seconds? then the gtr was quicker than the zr1 at tsukubsa, and mt fuji by a relatively large margin. so dont yap on about the z06 being quicker than a gtr when the big daddy zr1 is heaps slower than the gtr when using the same tyres haha
ceebowone 1 week ago
@12valvepower4 so take that america
ceebowone 1 week ago
2012 against 2 2011's.......Weak!
1970gtosd 1 week ago
@1970gtosd it wouldnt matter..
grant4life13 1 week ago
@grant4life13 Yes it would. Plus the driver shut off The electronic controls. The 2012 Z06 beats 2013gtr premium. Z06 1.22.7sec. Gtr Premium 1.23.8 With electric controls on. Watch?v=cVw3-vNtzrc
1970gtosd 1 week ago
haha, nice try Chevy and Ford..... Weak!
dfwprelude 1 week ago
How are these cars so heavy? My LINCOLN TOWN CAR weighs 4054 pounds, and the Mustang weighs 3800? How?!
EdStockman 1 week ago
@EdStockman Mostly because of the modern safety stuff, heavy shit.
BEEMERFAN79 1 week ago
@EdStockman the gtr is way heavy for a car that beats a zr1 when racing fairly with the same tyres. the gtr is 1720kgs thats fukn heavy compared to a zr1 that is 1500 kgs
ceebowone 1 week ago
Budget supercars? Are you guys high? A $49,000 car is not a budget-based car, let alone a $90,000 one.
crewcutkid 1 week ago
@crewcutkid Not to mention the insurance and maintenance of most $49,000+ cars will give you a run for your money.
cupofrice 1 week ago
@crewcutkid for a supercar it is a budget. dont compare it to regular cars
zipper978 1 week ago
GTR = KING
LARC448 1 week ago
I like this guy. He pays attention to Details and lets us know.
joseabreu00 1 week ago
The electronic assistance now offered in the Z06 actually makes the driver slightly faster. He should have kept them on.
Blackgam3r 1 week ago
This was great...looks like I'm going to purchase a NISSAN GTR
radiodiary1 2 weeks ago 7
@radiodiary1
Yeah, in 20 years time cause youre obviously just a youtube fantasizer but a poor fag in real life
umadbrow 1 week ago
the GT500 isnt even in the same realm of cars as the Z06 or GT-R the shelby is better compared to the camero ZL1
rider4life51 2 weeks ago
Though I've only driven Volkswagens since I could drive, I've been lusting after the GT-R recently. It seems too good to be true. I may, however, have to settle for an R32 with my budget... or an old Audi 5000 Avant...
ItchyKneeSon 2 weeks ago
GT500, Z06 supercar ? lol
mire101 2 weeks ago
American cars<<<<<
redskins112995 2 weeks ago