At 2:25 when her loser husband is speaking,I love the look on her face.She raises her eyebrows to someone in the audience and then looks up at her future killer with those doe eyes.
@nema1218 Wow, your good nema to notice that. I've watched this video many times and never saw her eyebrow motion at 2:25. I watched it again just now and you are so right. It's a very sexy subtle little motion. I wonder who she was looking at? Tis a mystery, just like her death. It still weirds me out when she mentions Catalina.
Yeah it was like she forsaw her own death just four years later.Ever since a director threw her into the ocean in 1952 at age 14(why did he do that ?!),she has been deathly afraid of the ocean.
She does look sexy and I say Natalie had the cutest facial expressions of any woman.Check out the video of her on What is My Line? and how she crinkles her nose.So cute and sexy!
Here she looks like Catherine Zeta Jones,except much better.
@nema1218 Actually nema, she became afraid of water when she nearly drowned while making The Green Promise in 1949. There was a scene where a bridge she was hanging onto actually broke loose and all kinds of water came roaring down onto her. She very nearly drowned in that scene which you can see if you ever have seen this film. It's a good movie. Don't mean to correct you but the author who wrote Natasha points that out as the critical moment when water became her enemy. So weird.
Yeah it was like she forsaw her own death just four years later.Ever since a director threw her into the ocean in 1952 at age 14(why did he do that ?!),she has been deathly afraid of the ocean.
She does look sexy and I say Natalie had the cutest facial expressions of any woman.Check out the video of her on What is My Line? and how she crinkles her nose.So cute and sexy!
Here she looks like Catherine Zeta Jones,except much better.
so very strange Natalie talking about getting thrown in the water during filming of The Star in '53--and Bette coming out to tell the director off for doing that to Natlie. Natalie could have used Bette's help years later....
Its obvious to me that under no circumstances would Natalie have went into the ocean on that fateful night in81! This is solid EVIDENCE That Wagner had to have put Natalie Kicking and Screaming into the ocean that night!!! The irony to all of this is that Wagner will never pay for his evil actions and Natalie, God bless her soul, would never have left Wagner to drown that night under any circumstance! RIP Natalie you may be gone from us now but you will never be forgotten! xx
She tells a great story. Had she lived, I bet she would have written an interesting, humorous autobiography. That walking ego, Wagner, needs to pay for what he did.
Yes, I also just read all the newly recorded written evidence on this case, I remember reading about the drowning story at the time and not believing it. I am so glad the case has been re-opened, & hope everyone remotely involved that night, most certainly Robert Wagner is given a lie detector test. her family deserve to know the real truth of that night, & if proven she was murdered, no matter what age they are now, should be held accountable & punished accordingly. Natalie was such a loss .
@KennyWayneGunner wow just watched, when was this recorded? I just read the affidavits from the diver, the captain, her sister and owner of the boat nearest to Splendour who heard her cries. It's insane how badly this was handled. She was bruised all over and it was never investigated? Money talks in Hollywood. I;ll never look at HART TO hART AGAIN
Natalie was radiant, classy, beautiful, intelligent, and funny - her story is humorous and touching - I'm sure Bette was touched by it.
Wagner, on the other hand, is a phony hanger-on who just had to get some of the limelight here with his cheesy line. Natalie's vivid recollection outshines any of his self-serving and egotistical speeches any day.
Yeah, Bette Davis was incredible. She had something amazing, something incredibly unique and rare. She was truly one of a kind, someone who comes along only once in a very long while. Even watching her on video all these years later, she comes across as so sharp, so ahead of her time.
Agreed. Bette should have won for Of Human Bondage, Now, Voyager, Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, arguably All About Eve (vs. Gloria Swanson in Sunset Blvd.), and arguably The Letter and The Little Foxes. Amazing career. Hepburn's Oscars for Morning Glory, Guess Who's Coming to Dinner and On Golden Pond were all ridiculous. Lion in Winter is debatable, she should have won for Bringing Up Baby (not even nominated). But the Oscars are, and always were, a farce.
Irony is ironic sometimes...it's my understanding Natalie Wood had a phobia with water and slipped while entering a small boat adjacent to her yacht, into the waters off Catalina Island, CA.
I will always remember that day, because I was interviewing for a job that changed the course of my life forever. She was a beautiful and talented woman.
I forgot how beautiful Natalie Wood really was. So sad she passed away at such an early age. She had that Star "Look" It's nice to see her on youtube!
According to the author of the book "Natasha" that I finished not too long ago, the reason Natalie left RJ was not because she fell in love with Warren Beatty, but because she walked into a bedroom and caught RJ making love to another man. Yuck! She left RJ right after that for obvious reasons. And to think she hooked up with him again. Of course that was her undoing.
I always wondered if the gay angle was true,why would such a beautiful and talented woman such as Natalie go back with him many years later.Most women would never go back to their husbands /boyfriends if they were caught being gay.I think either way she made poor choices in men.
@nema1218 I'm only going by what I read in the book Natasha. I certainly don't doubt it, and I bet male actors had as much of a casting couch with male execs as actresses did. I've read she made poor choices in men. Her 2nd husband was no great shakes either, and was having an affair while still married to Natalie. I wonder too why she would go back to RJ; she might still be alive if she hadn't. If I walked in on my husband going at it with another guy, there is no way I would stay or go back.
Yes I know,good point.She seemed to get with men who were far below her looks.The second husband Gregson was very unattractive,Wagner was far better.And if she did have an affair with Walken,I could understand how he may have been an emotional safe haven for her since maybe the marriage was rocky with Wagner.But still Walken was creepy looking.
She could have done much,much ,much better.Seriously!
@sweetdreamseveryone I don't believe the Beatty thing, RJ just wrote that to make himself sound cool or whatever. It's just a horrible, horrible thing what happened to her. I miss Natalie so much. She should still be alive, making movies and being with her daughters
@sweetdreamseveryone I don't think they would have gotten married if he didn't show up during such a vulnerable time in her life. She leaves Gregson ten months after their daughter is born. is quoted saying she will never marry again - then just 3 months after divorcing Gregson she marries Wagner.
wanting her and loving her are 2 different things.
He owed his ex-wife Marion Marshall alimony; He had to shut down production on a TV-movie because he ran out of cash for the budget; His show had been canceled and he had little income and could only get TV guest spots.
Natalie paid off all his debts and they married after just 5 months of dating. He treated her family like crap. When she married him the first time at 19, her mom said "Nothing good will come of this" and she was right.
(continued) Wagner was jealous of her. When they 1st married she was a very young yet full-fledged movie star, while he was already a has-been. In the 2nd marriage, he was a star because of his show , but the hypocrite didn't want Natalie to make films. He is partially to blame for why her days as a big star ended at such a young age. When she got the role in Brainstorm in late '81 (her first quality film role in 13 years), he was furious & felt threatened that she would be bigger than him again
Absolutely, she had terrible taste in men. Their only child Courtney was 7 when Natalie died. She does not remember alot about Nat. She was raised by Wagner so we can assume she believed all the lies he had told her. Natasha (Natalie's daughter by Richard Gregson) is very close to RJ and Jill, but estranged from Natalie's family. Lana Wood hasn't had contact with her nieces in years. When Natalie's mom died in 1998, neither Wagner or her kids showed up at the funeral.
@sweetdreamseveryone Really, the only credible person to make a statement against him is Lana Wood. See my video of her talking about wanting the case reopened, she STILL doesn't say anything about foul play, she just says the investigation was flawed. Yet in books she is quoted saying otherwise. Something is preventing Lana Wood from speaking out. Maybe she is afraid, or maybe it has something to do with money. Her house was foreclosed in '08 and she lives with her daughter and 3 grankids.
@sweetdreamseveryone The investigation was certainly flawed. It wasn't even an investigation! Walken and Wagner were crying hysterically and the police let them leave the island after less than 5 minutes of questioning. They didn't even consider the possibility that foul play was involved, there were no suspects.
(cont.) Wayne was certain it was Natalies voice she heard. She incessantly tried to inform the police who totally ignored her as a witness and the department stopped returning her calls. The 1 time she spoke with a detective, he accused her of lying. She gave up because she didn't want to cause pain for Natalie's kids. But since the publication of GNGS, she, her ex-fiance and her son are all willing to testify and take polygraph tests if this case ever goes to trial - which I doubt it ever will
@vanessalove182 Wow, that's sad about Natasha and her mother's side of the family. She must have believed RJ's B.S. too, which surprises me a little since she is the older daughter. R.J. seems like a total phony to me and from reading the book Natasha, was washed up early on while his wife became a movie legend and icon. The reason she divorced him the first time is because she walked in on him having sex with another man. Ewwww!! (It's in the book) Too bad she remarried the jerk.
@sweetdreamseveryone If you read Lana Wood's book (which is not very good), she says Wagner ignored her after Natalie died and wouldn't let her see Natalie's kids. She has made many attempts to get in contact over the years. When their mom died in 1998, Natalie's daughters (adults by that time) didn't come to the funeral. Lana held a SECOND service and sent a letter but they still didn't show up. Wagner has programmed lies and hate into Natalie's daughters.
(continued) I don't believe he planned or had any intention of killing her. But he was very drunk and Davern claims he heard sounds of violence from below the deck, went went to the stateroom and Wagner told him to go away, and that he saw them continue the argument out on the deck. I firmly believe that Wagner put in her in the water, the idea that she simply fell is rubbish. Most likely, he believed she would swim to shore, not drown because she jacket kept her afloat.
@sweetdreamseveryone The dingy was also missing, and the BS theories were that Natalie fell while trying to retie it, or that she wanted to take it out and go boat hopping (?!?!). There's not a doubt in my mind that Wagner untied it. He either did this after she went overboard, assuming she'd climb in, OR (most likely) he untied the dingy to make it look like she took it out, AFTER he realized she was gone for good
There were 3 people on another boat (Marilyn Wayne, her fiance John Payne, and her son Anthony) who claim they heard a woman's screaming for help for 20 minutes, and a man's voice saying "hang in there, we'll save you" in a mocking tone. It was cold, windy, rainy - they couldn't just swim out. They had already deflated their dingy which would have taken them at least 30 min. to pump up, so they called the harbor master and were told a helicopter would come search, but it never came. (continued)
@vanessalove182 Ok, thank you for explaining that. I had previously thought the couple who heard her cries for help were jerks in not taking action. They did their best. Why wasn't the helicoptor sent out? lights put on? Contact made to harbormaster for help? She could have been found in time!!! 3 men on board--Fish! Why they were at Catalina at such an cold time of year is so strange.....&, of course, in the year since you posted, this case is busting wide open again.
@vanessalove182 (continued) Natalie drowned while floating, she did not sink. It was cold, windy, rainy, and the current carried her out further. She survived the entire night and died shortly before her body was found. Rulli's theory is that she eventually passed out from hypothermia, then drowned while unconscious. Her body was found floating face down, HANGING from the jacket she was wearing. Underneath it she had a nightgown and no underwear.
@vanessalove182 According to a book written by Dr. Thomas Naguchi, the L.A. coroner, Natalie lived for hours in the water, just like you said, and was not dead very long before they found her body. It made me sick reading it, how scared she must have been, how desperate she must have felt. Dr. Naguchi called Natalie a hero, her efforts to save her own life heroic, which makes me feel proud of her, but horrible ending. His book (I think) is called Coroner At Large, Version 1. Has other cases too.
@SoCalGal52 She is s hero--who lost the fight--but she is in our hearts. Nice for the coroner to call Natalie a hero--that was beyond what he needed to say and I thank him for it. I had not known this before. Thank you. And now, since your post, things are opening up again on this mysterious tragic case...perhaps we'll find out. Three grown men couldn't hear a woman screaming in the water??? What gives???
sweetdreamseveryon Thank you for sharing that little bit of information. I believe every word of what you just said!!! A little tidbit from that historic, pathetic moment of Natalie's last moments that has crossed the minds of everyone who loved and adored her.
"screams must have been heard all the way to Cataline"....EERIE , ironic statement.
She drowned off Catalina. Robert Wagner murdered Natalie. During their first marriage she had a fling with Warren Beatty. So, there's big motive for a drunk Wagner to kill her if he thought she was starting something with Walken. Read Dennis Davern's book. Wagner , and what he did to Natalie, was more than creepy. There needs to be another police investigation into her death. With his money , not yet --
Love how Natalie told her story without reading from a teleprompter or cue cards. Actors can't do that now when just handing out an award. Natalie looked quite lovely. A bit spooky hearing about her being frightened when being thrown into the water.
How weird, Natalie mentions Catalina. What a strange destiny for her, to drown off Catalina when she was terrified of dark, deep water. After all these years, her death still makes me sad. She was way too young to die, especially this way.
@vanessalove182 I know vanessalove, what the heck did she see in Robert Wagner? She could've had anybody, but she picked RJ, twice! I have no idea if he killed her, but he should've manned up at the time and cooperated more w/the cops. Instead he and Walken swiftly left the island like two dogs with there tails beween there legs like they had something to hide. Will we ever know the truth, or will it always remain a mystery like Marilyn's death.
Kind of spooky when she mentions the swim part and Catalina all the while one of two last people to see her alive and knows the truth besides of course God !
@grandallegro ~ Wagner is a complete shit who attached himself to her star. If it hadn't been for Natalie, no one would even know who he is today. I can no longer look at him, unless it's an occasion like this, when I'm watching Natalie. If he doesn't ever get his punishment here for what he did on Thanksgiving weekend of 1981, there will come a time when he has to meet his Maker.
@edwardjames50 ~ yes I know how you feel,it makes me angry when I see him living life to the fullest all the while knowing he was responsible for her death in such cruelty. I was 11 when I heard on the news she was dead and I could'nt believe it was an accident even then. Yes, he will have to account to God for what he did......
This is eerie to hear Natalie talk of her fear of dark water and Catalina! Such bitter irony....... and with RJ standing right beside her. Only RJ, Natalie, and Chris Walken know what really happened that night- one of them's dead, and the other two aren't saying anything!
Bette Davis? No...Madonna in oh, let's say...10 years.. and GOD BLESS NATALIE WOOD.. it's so sad to hear her talk about her fear of water and drowning...I have goosebumps......She had power.. she had intuition... God Bless her. I loved her...
Hahha, what a hillarious thing to say when you are one of the greatest movie stars in the history; "you probably don't remember me, but we worked together once." Great sense of humour.
Natalie Wood was an amazing child star (Tomorrow is Forever, Miracle on 34th St.), a superb teen star (Rebel Without Cause), and a wonderful mature actress (Splendor in the Grass, Love with the Proper Stranger, West Side Story). She was also a great sport, the first person to show up to accept her Harvard Hasty Pudding Club worst actress of the year prize (many greats have won it). She was beautiful in and out. Bette Davis was the greatest screen actress, challenged only by Meryl Streep.
@jayiijay ya and i've always wondered why katharine hepburn got the AFI 1st place greatest actess over bette's 2nd? I guess its because of those stupid 2more oscars but i think bette shouldve won more-especially for now, voyager except that greer garson won it for mrs miniver and i think thats only becuz it was a patriotic war time movie.
You're obviously a big fan, so we'll have to agree to disagree. She did make the transition but that wasn't always due to her acting talents (as documented in several books, esp "Live Fast, Die Young'. Her mother was ruthless, whored her out to anyone who could get her work, no matter if they were 30 years older than she, which is so sad. I do agree w/your last sentence: "That's a LONG TIME for someone who is wasn't a very good actress."
Her mother did not "whore" Natalie out. She did push her to get parts. but she was scared to death Natalie would get pregnant, cause a scandal and not be able to work. That's why she did not take natalie to the doctor when she broke her wrist. It set crookedly and natalie wore a bracelet on her left wrist the rest of her life to hide it. Hedr mother even told her she was too tiny to have babies, or it would kill her. There is a difference between ruthlessly pushing someone and whoring them.
i don't think she was any more or less sexually inquisitive than any 15-16 year old girl of her time. It's just that "good girls" didn't get caught and didn't talk about. And Hollywood covered it up; pregnancies out of wedlock and the rest. and yes, her mother looked the other way. Natalie was the breadwinner.
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The Oscars have always been very political, especially when it comes to up-and-coming promotion of 'stars'. Think "Marisa Tomei", who actually won an Oscar. Anyway, I'm sure Ms. Wood was a very sweet, kind person, just not a very good actress. While she was adequate in "Rebel", she was miscast in West Side Story, and "Inside Daisy Clover" for example, is just painful to watch, among many others.
Regardless, she had 3 nominations under her belt. And I don't know if you've read the book "Inside Daisy Clover", but that's basically what her character was like. If she was not that great of an actress, she would have never made it as a successful actress. She would have been tossed aside like countless other child actors. She made the transition from child to adult star. Not an easy thing! She was in the business for 40+ years. That's a LONG TIME for someone who is wasn't a very good actress.
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They're not meant to be "hateful". I don't hate Ms. Wood, just don't think she was a very good at her job. As I said below, I'm sure she was a very sweet, kind person, in fact I feel sorry and sad for her. She was forced into her career by a domineering, ruthless stage mother, who made her do
anything to get that next job. And I mean "anything", even when she was a very young girl.
You are so full of crap it isn't funny! Oh, right, Natalie Wood had to sleep her way from birth until death for movie roles!!
Natalie Wood was smart, rich and beyond beautiful. She wasn't a hooker, you moron.
She was in movies as a toddler and her career never stopped. She was loved by a very handsome man and admired around the world. You act like Natalie Wood was
pathetic. Please! We should all be so lucky as to have had the life Natalie Wood lived.
Ladylike1980: This is getting ridiculous. Where do I say she had to sleep her way from birth until death for movie roles? And where did I say she was a hooker? You're blowing my comments totally out of proportion. Her MOTHER Maria was the problem. Quoting from the Los Angeles Times: "Maria had no such objections when her 16-year-old daughter spent unchaperoned nights with Hollywood VIPs." A google search will turn up more info. I'm outta here. :)
how you came up with your information. Natalie Wood has a huge fan base. You don't need to feel sorry for her like you said you did. She lived a life you could only dream about. You are bitter and pathetic.
Such "ladylike" comments. Naturally you avoided my first two questions (you'd do great on a witness stand). Plus you assumed I learned about Wood's mother by googling the info. In fact, I've read this for years in articles and books, but suggested YOU and others use google to get the behind the scenes information. But what-ever.
oh come on, there are way worse actresses than natalie wood. She wasn't number one, i'll admit, but her work was way better than half of the crap thats out there today.
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I totally agree -- there are definitely worse actresses out there. I just said she was "one of the worst", and by that, I meant from that generation. There were a lot worse back then and today.
@stapril90 Natalie should have won an Oscar for her tour de force splendid, perfect, delightful role as Maria in West Side Story. In it she creatively enacted a diapaison from comedy (in the salon scenes), deep soulful romance, electric suspense (fooling the detective as Tony escaped) & heart wrenching tragedy (in the finale, first explosively chastizing the gang members, then veiled in a mantilla [prefiguring Jackie Kennedy two years later at JFK funeral] exiting playground in a funeral march.
Can someone please tell me why these fantastic bits of our history lie locked away in vaults. Do you have to be a film student or a proffesional in order to get access to them?.The stars belong to everyone. They can not possiably shine locked away in the dark.its the fans who add the sparkle to the lights they generate.
betty did not react when wagner said his part...she just stared. wonder what she was thinking.
krystalmonday 3 weeks ago
:-O...I can't believe they threw kids in the ocean like that. That is horrific!
stayAU 1 month ago
Wagner is guilty and should have been in jail for the past 30 years
materialgirl8707 1 month ago
At 2:25 when her loser husband is speaking,I love the look on her face.She raises her eyebrows to someone in the audience and then looks up at her future killer with those doe eyes.
What an adorable,yet sexy woman!
nema1218 2 months ago
@nema1218 Wow, your good nema to notice that. I've watched this video many times and never saw her eyebrow motion at 2:25. I watched it again just now and you are so right. It's a very sexy subtle little motion. I wonder who she was looking at? Tis a mystery, just like her death. It still weirds me out when she mentions Catalina.
SoCalGal52 2 months ago
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Yeah it was like she forsaw her own death just four years later.Ever since a director threw her into the ocean in 1952 at age 14(why did he do that ?!),she has been deathly afraid of the ocean.
She does look sexy and I say Natalie had the cutest facial expressions of any woman.Check out the video of her on What is My Line? and how she crinkles her nose.So cute and sexy!
Here she looks like Catherine Zeta Jones,except much better.
nema1218 2 months ago
@nema1218 Actually nema, she became afraid of water when she nearly drowned while making The Green Promise in 1949. There was a scene where a bridge she was hanging onto actually broke loose and all kinds of water came roaring down onto her. She very nearly drowned in that scene which you can see if you ever have seen this film. It's a good movie. Don't mean to correct you but the author who wrote Natasha points that out as the critical moment when water became her enemy. So weird.
SoCalGal52 1 month ago
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Oh I did not know that,but pretty weird.Thanks.
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Oh I did not know that,but pretty weird.Thanks.
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@SoCalGal52
Yeah it was like she forsaw her own death just four years later.Ever since a director threw her into the ocean in 1952 at age 14(why did he do that ?!),she has been deathly afraid of the ocean.
She does look sexy and I say Natalie had the cutest facial expressions of any woman.Check out the video of her on What is My Line? and how she crinkles her nose.So cute and sexy!
Here she looks like Catherine Zeta Jones,except much better.
nema1218 2 months ago
People do not let strangers drown,how can a sicko and deviant allow a beautiful wife drown.
Just look at her,she was stunning!
nema1218 2 months ago
so very strange Natalie talking about getting thrown in the water during filming of The Star in '53--and Bette coming out to tell the director off for doing that to Natlie. Natalie could have used Bette's help years later....
windstorm1000 3 months ago
Its obvious to me that under no circumstances would Natalie have went into the ocean on that fateful night in81! This is solid EVIDENCE That Wagner had to have put Natalie Kicking and Screaming into the ocean that night!!! The irony to all of this is that Wagner will never pay for his evil actions and Natalie, God bless her soul, would never have left Wagner to drown that night under any circumstance! RIP Natalie you may be gone from us now but you will never be forgotten! xx
MrWhamster1 3 months ago 9
She tells a great story. Had she lived, I bet she would have written an interesting, humorous autobiography. That walking ego, Wagner, needs to pay for what he did.
The1fuzzylogic 3 months ago 3
Whoa
eliz49 3 months ago
Betty Davis Died in 1986 and Natalie in 1981, I wonder what Betty thought of her death
bealestbluesss 3 months ago
@bealestbluesss Bette died in '89.
windstorm1000 3 months ago
@windstorm1000 oh yes, correct you are
bealestbluesss 3 months ago
what a haunting story Natalie Drown at Catalina Island
bealestbluesss 3 months ago
Yes, I also just read all the newly recorded written evidence on this case, I remember reading about the drowning story at the time and not believing it. I am so glad the case has been re-opened, & hope everyone remotely involved that night, most certainly Robert Wagner is given a lie detector test. her family deserve to know the real truth of that night, & if proven she was murdered, no matter what age they are now, should be held accountable & punished accordingly. Natalie was such a loss .
Swithenban 3 months ago 2
This is where Robert Wagner got his idea to knock Natalie Wood off.
outinsider 3 months ago
eerie
ipouponu 3 months ago
this is sooooo wierd... listen 2 the story she tells... fear of having to be slung into the ocean. how strange!
KennyWayneGunner 3 months ago
@KennyWayneGunner wow just watched, when was this recorded? I just read the affidavits from the diver, the captain, her sister and owner of the boat nearest to Splendour who heard her cries. It's insane how badly this was handled. She was bruised all over and it was never investigated? Money talks in Hollywood. I;ll never look at HART TO hART AGAIN
jumpforjoy6 3 months ago 4
from wich year is this? 1970?
MyLalinea 4 months ago
@MyLalinea March 1, 1977
chalklounge 4 months ago
Natalie was radiant, classy, beautiful, intelligent, and funny - her story is humorous and touching - I'm sure Bette was touched by it.
Wagner, on the other hand, is a phony hanger-on who just had to get some of the limelight here with his cheesy line. Natalie's vivid recollection outshines any of his self-serving and egotistical speeches any day.
Muirmaiden 5 months ago 17
Beautiful Natalie...R.I.P.
dizzy365 6 months ago
where does natalie mentioned catalina? cuz its hard for me to hear her said that.
Xavier2081 6 months ago
Yeah, Bette Davis was incredible. She had something amazing, something incredibly unique and rare. She was truly one of a kind, someone who comes along only once in a very long while. Even watching her on video all these years later, she comes across as so sharp, so ahead of her time.
bg11215 7 months ago
@tamerswan WOW!!...you are right!!....Garbo, Davis..Leigh!!....each one a MASTER CLASS of acting, beauty, elegance and respect. Carlos
gwtwcarlos 9 months ago
creepy
Jaysond78 9 months ago
I can't forgive Walken ... or Wagner for that matter...
DaDa2Phlux 9 months ago 12
Was that Johnny Weissmullar at 1:30?
888tho 10 months ago
robert wagner is so lucky...i wonder how many other stars have gotten away with murder.....
spinout3 10 months ago 4
ironic she tells this story then died mysteriously in the water,,,,mabe wagner got ideas from this speech makes u think
stefkova1234 11 months ago 2
Agreed. Bette should have won for Of Human Bondage, Now, Voyager, Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, arguably All About Eve (vs. Gloria Swanson in Sunset Blvd.), and arguably The Letter and The Little Foxes. Amazing career. Hepburn's Oscars for Morning Glory, Guess Who's Coming to Dinner and On Golden Pond were all ridiculous. Lion in Winter is debatable, she should have won for Bringing Up Baby (not even nominated). But the Oscars are, and always were, a farce.
jayiijay 1 year ago 3
Irony is ironic sometimes...it's my understanding Natalie Wood had a phobia with water and slipped while entering a small boat adjacent to her yacht, into the waters off Catalina Island, CA.
I will always remember that day, because I was interviewing for a job that changed the course of my life forever. She was a beautiful and talented woman.
johnsmileyjr 1 year ago
I forgot how beautiful Natalie Wood really was. So sad she passed away at such an early age. She had that Star "Look" It's nice to see her on youtube!
NFitalianGuy 1 year ago
What year was this?
winstonlin143 1 year ago
@winstonlin143 1977
mensahcarrelle 1 year ago
According to the author of the book "Natasha" that I finished not too long ago, the reason Natalie left RJ was not because she fell in love with Warren Beatty, but because she walked into a bedroom and caught RJ making love to another man. Yuck! She left RJ right after that for obvious reasons. And to think she hooked up with him again. Of course that was her undoing.
SoCalGal52 1 year ago
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I always wondered if the gay angle was true,why would such a beautiful and talented woman such as Natalie go back with him many years later.Most women would never go back to their husbands /boyfriends if they were caught being gay.I think either way she made poor choices in men.
nema1218 2 months ago
@nema1218 I'm only going by what I read in the book Natasha. I certainly don't doubt it, and I bet male actors had as much of a casting couch with male execs as actresses did. I've read she made poor choices in men. Her 2nd husband was no great shakes either, and was having an affair while still married to Natalie. I wonder too why she would go back to RJ; she might still be alive if she hadn't. If I walked in on my husband going at it with another guy, there is no way I would stay or go back.
SoCalGal52 2 months ago
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Yes I know,good point.She seemed to get with men who were far below her looks.The second husband Gregson was very unattractive,Wagner was far better.And if she did have an affair with Walken,I could understand how he may have been an emotional safe haven for her since maybe the marriage was rocky with Wagner.But still Walken was creepy looking.
She could have done much,much ,much better.Seriously!
nema1218 2 months ago
He use to say that all the time in his early TV series It Takes a Theif...
Not his own line, but took it and said it to a lot of women...
What a line....
sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
he said "Lady you are Beautiful. Just Beautiful" nice. so perfectly talented and beautiful. what a pure friend he must of been to Bette.
justinjameswest 1 year ago
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
@sweetdreamseveryone I don't believe the Beatty thing, RJ just wrote that to make himself sound cool or whatever. It's just a horrible, horrible thing what happened to her. I miss Natalie so much. She should still be alive, making movies and being with her daughters
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
@sweetdreamseveryone So do you think he killed her or not?
I think him saying he waited outside Beatty's house with a gun is rubbish he made up to sell his book, which has countless provable lies in it
vanessalove182 1 year ago
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
@sweetdreamseveryone I don't think they would have gotten married if he didn't show up during such a vulnerable time in her life. She leaves Gregson ten months after their daughter is born. is quoted saying she will never marry again - then just 3 months after divorcing Gregson she marries Wagner.
vanessalove182 1 year ago
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
wanting her and loving her are 2 different things.
He owed his ex-wife Marion Marshall alimony; He had to shut down production on a TV-movie because he ran out of cash for the budget; His show had been canceled and he had little income and could only get TV guest spots.
Natalie paid off all his debts and they married after just 5 months of dating. He treated her family like crap. When she married him the first time at 19, her mom said "Nothing good will come of this" and she was right.
vanessalove182 1 year ago
(continued) Wagner was jealous of her. When they 1st married she was a very young yet full-fledged movie star, while he was already a has-been. In the 2nd marriage, he was a star because of his show , but the hypocrite didn't want Natalie to make films. He is partially to blame for why her days as a big star ended at such a young age. When she got the role in Brainstorm in late '81 (her first quality film role in 13 years), he was furious & felt threatened that she would be bigger than him again
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
Absolutely, she had terrible taste in men. Their only child Courtney was 7 when Natalie died. She does not remember alot about Nat. She was raised by Wagner so we can assume she believed all the lies he had told her. Natasha (Natalie's daughter by Richard Gregson) is very close to RJ and Jill, but estranged from Natalie's family. Lana Wood hasn't had contact with her nieces in years. When Natalie's mom died in 1998, neither Wagner or her kids showed up at the funeral.
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
@sweetdreamseveryone Really, the only credible person to make a statement against him is Lana Wood. See my video of her talking about wanting the case reopened, she STILL doesn't say anything about foul play, she just says the investigation was flawed. Yet in books she is quoted saying otherwise. Something is preventing Lana Wood from speaking out. Maybe she is afraid, or maybe it has something to do with money. Her house was foreclosed in '08 and she lives with her daughter and 3 grankids.
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
@sweetdreamseveryone The investigation was certainly flawed. It wasn't even an investigation! Walken and Wagner were crying hysterically and the police let them leave the island after less than 5 minutes of questioning. They didn't even consider the possibility that foul play was involved, there were no suspects.
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
(cont.) Wayne was certain it was Natalies voice she heard. She incessantly tried to inform the police who totally ignored her as a witness and the department stopped returning her calls. The 1 time she spoke with a detective, he accused her of lying. She gave up because she didn't want to cause pain for Natalie's kids. But since the publication of GNGS, she, her ex-fiance and her son are all willing to testify and take polygraph tests if this case ever goes to trial - which I doubt it ever will
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
@vanessalove182 its gonna happen since you posted a year ago--case wide open---yay! get to the bottom of it.
windstorm1000 3 months ago
@vanessalove182 Wow, that's sad about Natasha and her mother's side of the family. She must have believed RJ's B.S. too, which surprises me a little since she is the older daughter. R.J. seems like a total phony to me and from reading the book Natasha, was washed up early on while his wife became a movie legend and icon. The reason she divorced him the first time is because she walked in on him having sex with another man. Ewwww!! (It's in the book) Too bad she remarried the jerk.
SoCalGal52 1 year ago
@SoCalGal52 I'd always read that Natalie left her first marriage to R.J. when she fell in love with Warren Beatty making Splendour in the Grass.
JudgeJulieLit 1 year ago
@sweetdreamseveryone If you read Lana Wood's book (which is not very good), she says Wagner ignored her after Natalie died and wouldn't let her see Natalie's kids. She has made many attempts to get in contact over the years. When their mom died in 1998, Natalie's daughters (adults by that time) didn't come to the funeral. Lana held a SECOND service and sent a letter but they still didn't show up. Wagner has programmed lies and hate into Natalie's daughters.
vanessalove182 1 year ago
(continued) I don't believe he planned or had any intention of killing her. But he was very drunk and Davern claims he heard sounds of violence from below the deck, went went to the stateroom and Wagner told him to go away, and that he saw them continue the argument out on the deck. I firmly believe that Wagner put in her in the water, the idea that she simply fell is rubbish. Most likely, he believed she would swim to shore, not drown because she jacket kept her afloat.
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
@sweetdreamseveryone The dingy was also missing, and the BS theories were that Natalie fell while trying to retie it, or that she wanted to take it out and go boat hopping (?!?!). There's not a doubt in my mind that Wagner untied it. He either did this after she went overboard, assuming she'd climb in, OR (most likely) he untied the dingy to make it look like she took it out, AFTER he realized she was gone for good
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
There were 3 people on another boat (Marilyn Wayne, her fiance John Payne, and her son Anthony) who claim they heard a woman's screaming for help for 20 minutes, and a man's voice saying "hang in there, we'll save you" in a mocking tone. It was cold, windy, rainy - they couldn't just swim out. They had already deflated their dingy which would have taken them at least 30 min. to pump up, so they called the harbor master and were told a helicopter would come search, but it never came. (continued)
vanessalove182 1 year ago
@vanessalove182 Ok, thank you for explaining that. I had previously thought the couple who heard her cries for help were jerks in not taking action. They did their best. Why wasn't the helicoptor sent out? lights put on? Contact made to harbormaster for help? She could have been found in time!!! 3 men on board--Fish! Why they were at Catalina at such an cold time of year is so strange.....&, of course, in the year since you posted, this case is busting wide open again.
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
@vanessalove182 (continued) Natalie drowned while floating, she did not sink. It was cold, windy, rainy, and the current carried her out further. She survived the entire night and died shortly before her body was found. Rulli's theory is that she eventually passed out from hypothermia, then drowned while unconscious. Her body was found floating face down, HANGING from the jacket she was wearing. Underneath it she had a nightgown and no underwear.
vanessalove182 1 year ago
@vanessalove182 According to a book written by Dr. Thomas Naguchi, the L.A. coroner, Natalie lived for hours in the water, just like you said, and was not dead very long before they found her body. It made me sick reading it, how scared she must have been, how desperate she must have felt. Dr. Naguchi called Natalie a hero, her efforts to save her own life heroic, which makes me feel proud of her, but horrible ending. His book (I think) is called Coroner At Large, Version 1. Has other cases too.
SoCalGal52 1 year ago
@SoCalGal52 She is s hero--who lost the fight--but she is in our hearts. Nice for the coroner to call Natalie a hero--that was beyond what he needed to say and I thank him for it. I had not known this before. Thank you. And now, since your post, things are opening up again on this mysterious tragic case...perhaps we'll find out. Three grown men couldn't hear a woman screaming in the water??? What gives???
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
sweetdreamseveryon Thank you for sharing that little bit of information. I believe every word of what you just said!!! A little tidbit from that historic, pathetic moment of Natalie's last moments that has crossed the minds of everyone who loved and adored her.
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sweetdreamseveryone 1 year ago
Um...why the hell is R.J up there with her?! Get your ass off the stage douchebag!
UhHuhHer85 1 year ago 3
"screams must have been heard all the way to Cataline"....EERIE , ironic statement.
She drowned off Catalina. Robert Wagner murdered Natalie. During their first marriage she had a fling with Warren Beatty. So, there's big motive for a drunk Wagner to kill her if he thought she was starting something with Walken. Read Dennis Davern's book. Wagner , and what he did to Natalie, was more than creepy. There needs to be another police investigation into her death. With his money , not yet --
cubomania3 1 year ago
As usual, Wagner was riding on Natalie's star. Without her he was nobody.
edwardjames50 1 year ago
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critchley3819 1 year ago
The most beautiful woman who ever lived! I think she was at her best here, she got even better with maturity.
musicfan2511 1 year ago 2
Love how Natalie told her story without reading from a teleprompter or cue cards. Actors can't do that now when just handing out an award. Natalie looked quite lovely. A bit spooky hearing about her being frightened when being thrown into the water.
Alexaklr 1 year ago 2
Natalie looks beautiful!
RubyTuesday717 1 year ago
How weird, Natalie mentions Catalina. What a strange destiny for her, to drown off Catalina when she was terrified of dark, deep water. After all these years, her death still makes me sad. She was way too young to die, especially this way.
SoCalGal52 1 year ago 4
@SoCalGal52 ~ I freaked when she mentioned Catalina. How ironic.
edwardjames50 1 year ago
worst pairing ever. awful looking couple. she could have done so much better. he killed her.
vanessalove182 1 year ago
@vanessalove182 I know vanessalove, what the heck did she see in Robert Wagner? She could've had anybody, but she picked RJ, twice! I have no idea if he killed her, but he should've manned up at the time and cooperated more w/the cops. Instead he and Walken swiftly left the island like two dogs with there tails beween there legs like they had something to hide. Will we ever know the truth, or will it always remain a mystery like Marilyn's death.
SoCalGal52 1 year ago
@SoCalGal52 that was one of her few flaws. she made bad choices when it came to choosing the men in her life.
vanessalove182 1 year ago
Kind of spooky when she mentions the swim part and Catalina all the while one of two last people to see her alive and knows the truth besides of course God !
grandallegro 1 year ago 2
@grandallegro ~ Wagner is a complete shit who attached himself to her star. If it hadn't been for Natalie, no one would even know who he is today. I can no longer look at him, unless it's an occasion like this, when I'm watching Natalie. If he doesn't ever get his punishment here for what he did on Thanksgiving weekend of 1981, there will come a time when he has to meet his Maker.
edwardjames50 1 year ago
@edwardjames50 ~ yes I know how you feel,it makes me angry when I see him living life to the fullest all the while knowing he was responsible for her death in such cruelty. I was 11 when I heard on the news she was dead and I could'nt believe it was an accident even then. Yes, he will have to account to God for what he did......
grandallegro 1 year ago
She made her film debut at age 4 and received three oscar nominations by age 25. She semi-retired at age 28 and died at age 43.
vanessalove182 1 year ago
She mentioned Catalina and I freaked...
Missed forever
kmilacl101 1 year ago
anybody no wat year thiz was?!
pepsiimaxx02 1 year ago
nice post! wonderful on many levels
jamietfranklin 1 year ago
Natalie Wood was enchanting. And this clip on a tribute to a great star Miss Davis
is welcome, however it is eerie to hear Miss Wood talk of the water, Catalina,
etc...knowing in a few years she would die of drowning. A sad end for a lovely star.
ToughXArmy69 1 year ago
This is eerie to hear Natalie talk of her fear of dark water and Catalina! Such bitter irony....... and with RJ standing right beside her. Only RJ, Natalie, and Chris Walken know what really happened that night- one of them's dead, and the other two aren't saying anything!
PJCoan 2 years ago
Natalie is so cute here! What year was this?
2sday55 2 years ago
@2sday55 1977
sunxxl01 1 year ago
Bette Davis? No...Madonna in oh, let's say...10 years.. and GOD BLESS NATALIE WOOD.. it's so sad to hear her talk about her fear of water and drowning...I have goosebumps......She had power.. she had intuition... God Bless her. I loved her...
getoutofmyway01 2 years ago 2
I remember this speech because of her talking about her terror of water. Talk about foretelling!
ReneeDeborah 2 years ago 3
Read Goodbye Natalie Goodbye Splendour. I just did and can't believe how this beautiful woman really died.
jwc1020 2 years ago 2
Hahha, what a hillarious thing to say when you are one of the greatest movie stars in the history; "you probably don't remember me, but we worked together once." Great sense of humour.
KarinPluss 2 years ago 7
the irony is the speech is so eery. everything from the reference to the water to Catalina (where she died)
JFLD8 2 years ago 4
Natalie Wood was an amazing child star (Tomorrow is Forever, Miracle on 34th St.), a superb teen star (Rebel Without Cause), and a wonderful mature actress (Splendor in the Grass, Love with the Proper Stranger, West Side Story). She was also a great sport, the first person to show up to accept her Harvard Hasty Pudding Club worst actress of the year prize (many greats have won it). She was beautiful in and out. Bette Davis was the greatest screen actress, challenged only by Meryl Streep.
jayiijay 2 years ago 13
I think you have to consider Katharine Hepburn, Jane Fonda and a few others like Jessica Lange and Glenn Close
kangaroosbraun 2 years ago 2
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Those 3 women don't hold a candle to Natalie. Jane is the most overrated of them all.
Natalie was great but was never given the opportunity to use her full potential. Most of the movies she made were as a child.
vanessalove182 2 years ago
@jayiijay ya and i've always wondered why katharine hepburn got the AFI 1st place greatest actess over bette's 2nd? I guess its because of those stupid 2more oscars but i think bette shouldve won more-especially for now, voyager except that greer garson won it for mrs miniver and i think thats only becuz it was a patriotic war time movie.
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angelbabycreampuff77 2 years ago
I wonder what really happened that night??? All I know that when alcohol, drugs and jealousy are involved bad things can happen...
angelbabycreampuff77 2 years ago
natalie wood was so beautiful and it's so creepy to hear her foretell her own death! dark waters . . .
ryanatl20 2 years ago 5
Yeah it was kind of cryptic what Natalie Wood said. She was a fantastic actress. Her performance in Splendor in the Grass was incredible.
bg11215 2 years ago 20
Wow, if only she hadn't gone out on that damn boat! :(
myrnaturner 2 years ago 4
Hello Myrna Turner i love it!!!
myrnaloysboy 2 years ago
Spooky...she pretty much describes what will happen to her later in life...only Betty Davis wouldn't be there to save her.
firstjohn47and8 3 years ago 3
She was great in West Side Story and also very beautiful.
lulu977 3 years ago 2
How strange, Natalie comments on being thrown into the water, then mentions Catalina.
paul51 3 years ago
yes, that's really strange
MarijaButters 3 years ago
She was a beautiful woman and a great actress!
afrodite963 3 years ago
Natalie Wood is one of the most beautiful , gifted, legendary actresses in Hollywood history.
Band171 3 years ago 5
You're obviously a big fan, so we'll have to agree to disagree. She did make the transition but that wasn't always due to her acting talents (as documented in several books, esp "Live Fast, Die Young'. Her mother was ruthless, whored her out to anyone who could get her work, no matter if they were 30 years older than she, which is so sad. I do agree w/your last sentence: "That's a LONG TIME for someone who is wasn't a very good actress."
dannybex 3 years ago
Her mother did not "whore" Natalie out. She did push her to get parts. but she was scared to death Natalie would get pregnant, cause a scandal and not be able to work. That's why she did not take natalie to the doctor when she broke her wrist. It set crookedly and natalie wore a bracelet on her left wrist the rest of her life to hide it. Hedr mother even told her she was too tiny to have babies, or it would kill her. There is a difference between ruthlessly pushing someone and whoring them.
alvastarr1 3 years ago 3
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Whatever.
Her mother obviously had no problem with Natalie sleeping with director Nicholas Ray, when she was 16 and he was 43.
dannybex 3 years ago
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alvastarr1 3 years ago
i don't think she was any more or less sexually inquisitive than any 15-16 year old girl of her time. It's just that "good girls" didn't get caught and didn't talk about. And Hollywood covered it up; pregnancies out of wedlock and the rest. and yes, her mother looked the other way. Natalie was the breadwinner.
alvastarr1 3 years ago
You got that right. Whatever....
alvastarr1 2 years ago
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The Oscars have always been very political, especially when it comes to up-and-coming promotion of 'stars'. Think "Marisa Tomei", who actually won an Oscar. Anyway, I'm sure Ms. Wood was a very sweet, kind person, just not a very good actress. While she was adequate in "Rebel", she was miscast in West Side Story, and "Inside Daisy Clover" for example, is just painful to watch, among many others.
dannybex 3 years ago
Regardless, she had 3 nominations under her belt. And I don't know if you've read the book "Inside Daisy Clover", but that's basically what her character was like. If she was not that great of an actress, she would have never made it as a successful actress. She would have been tossed aside like countless other child actors. She made the transition from child to adult star. Not an easy thing! She was in the business for 40+ years. That's a LONG TIME for someone who is wasn't a very good actress.
stephsayss 3 years ago 2
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Kind of ironic that here's one of the worst actresses in the world paying tribute to one of the best.
dannybex 3 years ago
lol, okay. It's not like she earned 3 Oscar nominations or anything.
stephsayss 3 years ago
Why are you here if you dislike her so much? You really have nothing else better to do than leave hateful comments? That's sad.
BicycleForTwo 3 years ago 2
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They're not meant to be "hateful". I don't hate Ms. Wood, just don't think she was a very good at her job. As I said below, I'm sure she was a very sweet, kind person, in fact I feel sorry and sad for her. She was forced into her career by a domineering, ruthless stage mother, who made her do
anything to get that next job. And I mean "anything", even when she was a very young girl.
dannybex 3 years ago
dannybex -
You are so full of crap it isn't funny! Oh, right, Natalie Wood had to sleep her way from birth until death for movie roles!!
Natalie Wood was smart, rich and beyond beautiful. She wasn't a hooker, you moron.
She was in movies as a toddler and her career never stopped. She was loved by a very handsome man and admired around the world. You act like Natalie Wood was
pathetic. Please! We should all be so lucky as to have had the life Natalie Wood lived.
ladylike1980 3 years ago 3
Ladylike1980: This is getting ridiculous. Where do I say she had to sleep her way from birth until death for movie roles? And where did I say she was a hooker? You're blowing my comments totally out of proportion. Her MOTHER Maria was the problem. Quoting from the Los Angeles Times: "Maria had no such objections when her 16-year-old daughter spent unchaperoned nights with Hollywood VIPs." A google search will turn up more info. I'm outta here. :)
dannybex 3 years ago
dannybex -
You're damn right you are outta here. Who
wanted to read any more of your crap that
Natalie was a lousy actress and only got parts
or swards only because she was whored out? It
cracks me up that you "googled it" and that is
how you came up with your information. Natalie Wood has a huge fan base. You don't need to feel sorry for her like you said you did. She lived a life you could only dream about. You are bitter and pathetic.
ladylike1980 3 years ago
Such "ladylike" comments. Naturally you avoided my first two questions (you'd do great on a witness stand). Plus you assumed I learned about Wood's mother by googling the info. In fact, I've read this for years in articles and books, but suggested YOU and others use google to get the behind the scenes information. But what-ever.
dannybex 3 years ago
oh come on, there are way worse actresses than natalie wood. She wasn't number one, i'll admit, but her work was way better than half of the crap thats out there today.
stapril90 3 years ago 3
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I totally agree -- there are definitely worse actresses out there. I just said she was "one of the worst", and by that, I meant from that generation. There were a lot worse back then and today.
dannybex 3 years ago
she was nominated for three academy awards man
me92me92 3 years ago 2
@stapril90 Natalie should have won an Oscar for her tour de force splendid, perfect, delightful role as Maria in West Side Story. In it she creatively enacted a diapaison from comedy (in the salon scenes), deep soulful romance, electric suspense (fooling the detective as Tony escaped) & heart wrenching tragedy (in the finale, first explosively chastizing the gang members, then veiled in a mantilla [prefiguring Jackie Kennedy two years later at JFK funeral] exiting playground in a funeral march.
JudgeJulieLit 1 year ago
it would be great to see the whole tribute, if you have it?!?
brkitdwn 3 years ago 2
I'm sorry, I only have this clip!
stephsayss 3 years ago
Natalie was the most beautiful woman ever!
galindaboi06 3 years ago 6
Bette stays cool
Steolicious 3 years ago
You could tell Natalie was very, very nervous.
alvastarr1 3 years ago
okay.. thanks for sharing that. now log off please!
brkitdwn 3 years ago
Wow that is so amazing. Do you have the entire evening? that would be fascinating to see.
troybrooks 3 years ago
She looks flawless!!!
You have amazing videos!
thanks for sharing
agridulce 3 years ago
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Later Natalie Wood would die from a hard tap on the shoulder.
TheLavonAffair 3 years ago
fantastic!
CrazyBoutThe70s 3 years ago
How prophetic. Her saying "...being thrown into the ocean...screaming so loud you could hear me from Catalina." But Bette saved the day.
lakevubud 3 years ago
I agree, very eerie. It is so true that we draw to ourselves what we fear. I still miss Natalie tremendously.
Thanks so much for sharing the video.
BallandChainPHX 3 years ago 3
Too bad she wasn't there that night Natalie died
alvastarr1 3 years ago 11
poor Natalie, very eerie to hear her talk about being "flung into the ocean."
AdArmand 3 years ago
Great!!!
puddin123567 3 years ago
how can we see the whole thing?
biggerdouchebagjones 3 years ago
I'm sorry, I only have this clip.
stephsayss 3 years ago
Can someone please tell me why these fantastic bits of our history lie locked away in vaults. Do you have to be a film student or a proffesional in order to get access to them?.The stars belong to everyone. They can not possiably shine locked away in the dark.its the fans who add the sparkle to the lights they generate.
etrax2000 3 years ago 4