To a extent evolution exists. However we were created by a designer. The arrogant evlolution theorists will tell you differently. If there was not a designer how does evloution explain a pair of eye, not an eye, but 2 eyes. How does evolution explain a biological clock where we die? How does evolution explain that only one species out of more than a million has the intelligence of humans? It comes up with weak theories at best. But essentially it can't.
@gbp2000 Our explanations are much more substantiated and credible than "oh god did it", the "god of the gaps" argument gets weaker and weaker as time goes on,
@F1R9A9G2Z This is completely false! As time goes by and science fails to find the missing link, as they failed to do so for over 100 years, through deductive reasoning, the creationist theory gets stronger and stronger.
@gbp2000 By "deductive reasoning" you mean "don't know how it happened, must be God?" Science is always moving forward, Religion, as it has for 2000+ years, is standing still, waiting for Science to find something out so they can distort and add in "God" wherever they can. If a god existed I'm sure it would have revealed itself to the modern population many times, and it has not. So deductive reasoning says "god" is non-existent.
@F1R9A9G2Z There is less proof of evolution than God. Problems with evolution: 1) Two eyes for sight. 2) Two ears for sound. 3) Biological clock, which there is a girl today that is 16 y.o. that has not aged past 5. 4) The fact that Humans are the only species out of more than a million with the intelligence we possess. This strongly points to a designer 5) Savants 6) Death in and of itself 7) Evolutionist have no evidence that humans evolved, the missing link. Final: The list goes on and on..
@gbp2000 The is lot more evidence for evolution than some flying sky being that made everything and then was never seen or heard from again. If you don't mind me asking, do you follow any particular doctrine, or subscribe to a particular faith?
@F1R9A9G2Z You turn around and say that there is no God but yet part of your argument is that if there was a God he would have showed himself by now. However, you're too clueless to even attempt to address any of the facts that I set forward. You probably spent a little time in college where they indoctinated you with thier liberalism. I agree that there are evolutionists that know what they are talking about. Unfortunately, you're not one of them. So please go bother someone else.
@gbp2000 Please, I was offering the criticism IF a god existed, would we not see it on a daily basis? We do not see this, so therefore a god does not exist. You are too clueless to see that point, and you're trying to shy away from offering an answer for it. The points you make are all "god of the gaps" arguments, and one day science will discover the answers, but as of right now, some silly sky man is not an appropriate explanation.
@F1R9A9G2Z You turn around and say that there is no God but yet part of your argument is that if there was a God he would have showed himself by now. However, you're too clueless to even attempt to address any of the facts that I set forward. You probably spent a little time in college where they indoctinated you with thier liberalism. I agree that there are evolutionists that know what they are talking about. Unfortunately, you're not one of them. So please go bother someone else.
To a extent evolution exists. However we were created by a designer. The arrogant evlolution theorists will tell you differently. If there was not a designer how does evloution explain a pair of eye, not an eye, but 2 eyes. How does evolution explain a biological clock where we die? How does evolution explain that only one species out of more than a million has the intelligence of humans? It comes up with weak theories at best. But essentially it can't.
I love this video. It shows the gradual transitions in selection sped up so it can be seen. I have never under how someone can say "I believe(or accept) micro evolution, but not macro evolution."
This is akin to saying "I believe/accept inches because I can visualize it, but I do not believe in miles because it is too far away for me to grasp." When really both are the same thing.
I think you are underestimating God. Tell me this, the creator of everything, just created you and me. We all sin when we disobey God, which makes each and every human being deserving of eternal death in hell. I believe that i deserve to go to hell because of how bad i am. But because of God, i now good in me. it is not me that is good, but God in me that is good. God is a loving, punishment giving, just, righteous, allknowing, allpowerfull, infinite, and perfect God. everything he does is just.
The micro/macro debate is a straw man. There are numerous occurrences where species form numbers of populations isolated by distance wherein immediate neighbors freely interbreed while separated ones have become so unlike each other that they can't.
Speciation has been documented many times. Try Google.
this only occurs ONLY in the micro... not in the macro...
There is no proof for evolution yet. only bits and pieces from the fossil record. Creationism is a finished belief ( with the base knowledge of believing in a creator, which requires faith. But since i do believe in a creator, creationism, as of right now... has TONS more evidence than evolution, because it is a completely finished belief. Until the bases of evolution is fully complete, i will not believe it. only a stupid person would.
@thaddadian NO IT DOESN'T! This, folks, is what happens when all your sources involve a church. You really don't know anything about evolution, and shouldn't be commenting here. Faith is defined as a belief in something without evidence, so saying you have evidence supporting your idea and then saying it takes faith... well, that's hilarious.
@weirddudeonice How everything came in to being. the only posible answer is that there is a creator that started everything. Look up Newtons laws of motion. every action requires and equal or opposite reaction. Since the universe in expanding, it had to have started somewhere. The only possible answer is a creator. the big bang doesn't make any sense. So overall, there are two choices, big bang (without creator), or big bang with a creator. It takes the same amount of faith to believe in either.
@thaddadian No, it isn't. That law of motion has almost nothing to do with the fact the universe is expanding. You must prove the action that caused the expansion was done by the god you believe in before that works. Please sum up what you know about The Big Bang THEORY, if you would. I'd like to see if you understand it. Faith absolutely isn't involved with The Big Bang Theory, Christians tend to try to say that we use just as much faith as they do. 1. We don't, and 2., that never, ever works.
@weirddudeonice the big bang theory requires just as much faith as christian need to to believe in a God. I have looked into the big bang theory, and it doesn't make any sense. Because there will always be matter. nothing can make or eliminate matter. The universe CANNOT come into being from nothing. The big bang theory states that a something happened from nothing (no matter how complex or cool it is). This, my friend, is not possible and takes an enormous amount of faith to believe in.
@thaddadian Fool! If you've truly looked into the Big Bang Theory (which I seriously doubt), you'd understand that the Big Bang didn't create matter. all matter and energy was compressed into a super dense point, which expanded. No one knows how matter existed before that point. And If "the universe CANNOT come into being from nothing", then tell it to your religion and the Bible.
@weirddudeonice All that super dense matter must have a beginning. The only answer to that is an infinite creator that is not bound by the laws of physics. or else it would not be possible for the super dense matter to even exist.
@thaddadian The existence of such a being makes as much sense as that matter coming from nothing, I don't see why we should believe what you say. Besides, you haven't and really can't prove that's what happened.
@weirddudeonice When comes to the bases, (only by looking at the beginning of the universe), the amount of faith needed is the same. BUT after looking at how complex life is (just look at the humans intelligence, mind, and brain; no one can explain how it works), it seems more likely that we were created by design, rather then by random matter exploding. When i look at the world, I see everything being extremely complex, i cant help but to believe otherwise that there is a designer behind it all
@thaddadian Uh, yes we can too explain intelligence, the mind, and DEFINITELY the brain. I honestly don't want to sound rude, but what's your educational background? It's not more likely at all. A supernatural explanation is always less likely than a natural one. Random matter? I don't see how it was random, and it was an expansion, nothing actually blew up. If that's what you see it as, then I really can't help you. You're looking at the world through the goggles of Christianity.
@weirddudeonice When i say random matter i refer to the random time that the matter came into existence. Also, I simply believe in a God because without a God, life would be meaningless. I want to ask you a question, and it is a little off topic, but after you answer yes or no (or maybe a little interesting answer) i will respond back. k? here it is: Do you believe that people have a conscience, general morals? or Do you believe in good and bad things, or is everything relative for you?
@thaddadian So? I don't see why there has to be a purpose at all. I hear that one more than you'd think, people trying to say life would be meaningless without god, so there has to be. Well so what? Though I believe we create our own purpose in life. Yes I do. Though I can explain why a conscience and general morals don't come from the god you believe in, if that's what you were going after.
@weirddudeonice@weirddudeonice So, if you believe in good and bad, then where DID it come from, if it wasn't from God? Do animals have morals, or do they only have instinct? Do animals steal or lie knowing that it was wrong? I don't think so. Either you believe that God created morals, or you believe people made morals. If people did make up morals, then morals are not real, just as religion is not real, because making up something does not make it true. continue the next comment---->
Why do you think that your immediate reaction (in terms of what you think is good or bad) to some action is something more than instinct? Do you generally think things over before you decide how you feel about it? Don't you have a first response?
@weirddudeonice -----> Atheists must believe the either of the following, you choose: People made up morals, therefore there is no good or bad in reality, or morals just appeared into animals during evolution. If you chose any of those, then you must believe that Hitler was not a bad guy. Because if morals appeared at random, then they wouldn't be dependable, then losing all its value as a true moral. So either you believe all is relative, or you must believe in moral law and a moral law giver.
« People made up morals, therefore there is no good or bad in reality »
That's sheer nonsense. People invented laws and constitutions. Does that mean that our laws and constitutions aren't real? People invented theories describing aspects of nature, such as quantum mechanics, relativity theory. Does that mean that these theories don't exist? People invented plans for espresso machines; does that mean that plans for espresso machines aren't real?
« So either you believe all is relative, or you must believe in moral law and a moral law giver. »
That's a false dichotomy. There is no reason why "moral law" must be absolute. And in fact *you* don't believe in an absolute "moral law": you've made your notion of "moral law" contingent on whatever your god happens to think of something - without having any way of knowing how that god is going to think about something.
« my absolutes for moral law comes from the Bible »
But even the bible itself testifies of a change in morality between old and new testament. So how can any morality you derive from the bible be absolute?
(And by the way, I really would not recommend trying to uphold Mosaic Law this day and age; you're likely to end up in prison.)
@XGralgrathor You are so ignorant when it comes to the Bible. The consequence of sin is death. Before Jesus died, people had to be killed when they sinned. It was the consequence. But in the new testament, God made a new covenant with us. Jesus' death on the cross covers all of our sins. Therefore killing someone after they sinned is no longer needed, because Jesus already died for them. God, himself, died as a substitute for our sins, so that we don't have to. That is the loving God i worship.
@XGralgrathor You are so ignorant when it comes to the Bible. The consequence of sin is death. Before Jesus died, people had to be killed when they sinned. It was the consequence. But in the new testament, God made a new covenant with us. Jesus' death on the cross covers all of our sins. Therefore killing someone after they sinned is no longer needed, because Jesus already died for them. God, himself, died as a substitute for our sins, so that we don't have to. That is the loving God i worship.
« Before Jesus died, people had to be killed when they sinned »
... Why? Why did your god require a human sacrifice before he was able to forgive? Certainly a benevolent, just and allpowerful god would have been able to forgive without the human sacrifice?
No, the trends in the bible are clear: in the OT, there is indiscriminate killing and cruelty; in the NT, there's much less of that. A clear change in morality.
@XGralgrathor Sin is defined in the Bible. The bible is not cruel at all. EVERYONE, including me, deserves to die, because in the beginning, Adam sinned. Death is our punishment, and we all deserve it. If you just made a bunch of people out of play doh, and breathed life into it, wouldn't you have all the right to destroy one if it started to curse you and hate you??? of course. God has the right to kill us at anytime, and it would be just, because He made us, and we are cursing him. cont. --->
@XGralgrathor It is not okay to kill people. But when God passes Judgment... He is God, and he has the right to do whatever He wants. GOD... not a mear little person on earth... GOD!... the creator of EVERYTHING! GOD! HE can destroy his "little play doh creatures" if he wants... because we went against our own creator.
And show me one verse in the Bible where God commands people to smash baby's heads on rocks. God does nor torture anyone. And there is no such verse that says that about babies.
@XGralgrathor I am evil because i sin, and so does everyone else. Everyone deserves death. People are evil, not God. Therefore, God has all the right to pass judgment on who ever he wants, which makes him Just, punishing those who are evil. you, me, and everyone else in the world. But when Jesus came, dying for our sins, He took the punishment of sin on himself, a perfect person. That was the ultimate sacrifice. Because of that, we are now not bound by sin and evil anymore, but by God's grace.
@thaddadian Ha! I just LOVE this argument. You realise that god sacrificing himself to himself to create a loophole in a rule he himself created is insane? Don't you? That makes no sense, and that's exactly what happened, you can't deny it for a second. I can give you a quote from the Bible that has the god you believe in saying he created all the evil in the universe, meaning he made sin, evil, etc. in the first place. I don't see how you believe in, worship, and even love this thing.
@thaddadian No, it really isn't. Sorry. Unless you can demonstrate that it is, of course, or prove to me that you're correct. You can't just say that. But yes, you're correct, that doesn't make any sense.
@weirddudeonice The Bible says that just as darkness in the absence of light, evil is the absence of God. That is the only demonstration that you can possibly give for that.
@weirddudeonice WOW you're stupid, the lord said " i form light ,and create darkness" to mean, i made light thus creating a darkness, in science there is only light and no such other thing, darkness is the absence of light, same for good and evil, evil is the absence of good, same for basicly everything, even heat and cold, you must realize that the most high god speaks of science, he even says for people to go into the field of science so they may better understand him and his creatures
@adamleon97 3 MONTHS AGO? Are you high? Evil is not the absence of good, because it is possible to take no action, or do something that benefits no one. However, as long as it doesn't harm or cause detriment to anyone, it's not evil. Now listen you ignorant troll, I'd actually advise thinking of what someone may say in response to what you do before you post things. THEN you may avoid making a fool of yourself. And get off. You clearly know little to nothing about evolution anyway.
@weirddudeonice Fair enough, just know this, the longer you think about what i say, the more it proves true, i too once beleive that this was false but i have changed, i just wanted you to know that what you're saying is off but sorry i didn't notice this comment was 3 months ago
« I am evil because i sin, and so does everyone else. Everyone deserves death. »
You are evil because you are unwilling to escape the bonds of doctrine. You are evil because you judge that other people merit death. Yet not even you yourself deserve death, in my view. I would like very much for you to shut your filthy trap, though.
@thaddadian Sorry for the delay, I had no access to internet for a while. Morals come from the fact that you and I live together. For us to survive and do well in life, we must cooperate. Therefore, anything that helps you is good, anything that harms you is bad. THAT is where morals come from. Your Hitler comment makes no sense, and please answer me, why are so many creationists hung up on Hitler? No one cares! But seriously though, that's sad.
Nice Videos! Religion is a cancer of society. If you believe Heaven exists, and you know you're going there, wouldn't you have no fear of dying? When religion is taught to children, it's hard (sometimes impossible) for them in later life to break that curse. Would you rather know the answer to something that's not true, instead of just sticking with the unknown?
Creationists are only people themselves, it is not their duty to negate how god created the earth. God created science. So they should respect the evidence and not turn so many people off god by rejecting physical truth created by god
A genetic algorithm is the best way to illustrate how evolution REALLY works.
No matter how many generations pass, you will always have the number of genes than the generation before. That means that from a monkey you can get a lot of monkey species, but will never get any other animal. Humans do not have the same number of chromosomes with monkeys, so according also to the GA that we see here, cannot come from them. However, GAs show that the strongest survive and reproduce, who said otherwise
@AbeleWong if the shapes he drew were not round, they are not circles.you cant say that because they werent drawn round, then circles arent round, because they arent circles in the first place. when people draw circles with a compass (for example) they arent trying to draw a perfect circle. they are trying to draw an accurate representation of one. perfect circles do not exist in real life. circles are, in fact, round. anyone who disagrees with this then they dont know what a circle is...
@AbeleWong "Most evolutionist think that they are smarter, and they are always right, but they are not." This is an ignorant statement of yours. You do not represent most of the evolutionist ? Have you met the millions who accepts evolution and looked at the evidence ?
I'm pretty sure, evolutionist never think they are always right. Because nobody is always right. Right and Wrong depends on our survival, and what is true or not.
by believing in evolution, you are telling everybody that that since we are just evolved animals, then we have no basis of moral law in our minds (because animals do not have that). So since you do not believe in that, you must believe that Hitler was not a bad man, and that he did what he wanted to because he thought it was right. oh but wait... according to you, there is no right or wrong, because we don't have a moral code.... :)
It is so sad to see people so set on not wanting to worship their creator so much they become obsessed with making videos to convince others that they are ok. Even though you do not believe that GOD is the creator of all things doesn't mean he doesn't exist. You are blinded by your sin against him. You have committed many sins against GOD and they will not go unpunished. You will bow your knee to Jesus on Judgement Day and see how wrong you were.
@ElementElijahRayne It may be that at his throne all thought will be pure and uncorrupted by Satan or the fallen flesh as we have now.
Philippians 2:9-11 9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Then what you are stating is an utterly moot point. It is starkly obvious that evolution alone does not disproove the existance of a god, and most atheists would not think this way. We don't base our atheism on what sciece knows, but on what it doesn't know yet. Science cannot tell if there is a god so it is pointless to just assume that there is one, bereft of any testable evidence. You may aswell just believe spiderman is real, That can't be disprooved either.
LOL, i'm amazed how people try to deny even what they see. The genetic algorithms were inspired by evolution (not created to prove evolution, they do that implicitly), and they basically work the same way. Selection is defined by goal function that can be extremely complex, and evolution itself by mutation and crossbreed of particular genomes that represent each generation. Optimal genome (solution) is found even faster than with many other methods. Try wiki for further info.
I'm more of a Rationalist; I believe that God left us here and that we must solve things for ourselves, much like a clock. It will run on it's own without God needing to fix us and keep us running. Fate is chosen by us, not God.
@MultiNerve How is that rational ? Rational in this case I would say is believing only what is based on evidence. So where isthe evidence for your worldview ?
Oh dammit, why would you make such a video addressed to creationists? Seriously, just do your stuff and get the information out and dont get biased by the need to proof something to someone who won't believe you either way.
Actually your assuming a shit load of shit you know nothing about. First of all your assuming god even has eyes and that such eyes can even blink. The "Eyedea" is just lame and retarded you can't figure out the age of anything by presuming how long it takes god to blink an eye. It's just absurd and preposterous.
Darwin does not know the cause of variations so he claims it to be random which is a faith based argument...as is most of his theory. billions of years on earth and mutations (damages in a genetic code) does not prove darwins theory the entire theory mostly faulty speculation that i can no longer defend (and no, i am still not a bible thumper).
@PlayitalreadyYou're right; he didn't know the source of either mutation or heritability. He toyed with lamarckism, but knew that was wrong, too. So he just stated what was obvious from observation: there is a system for mutation and heritability, and let it go at that. It turned out that 100 years later the details were finally tracked down, and DNA was discovered to do both jobs. The mutations are indeed random. You're right that mutations and time don't prove the ToE. ...
@daggeron8 I believe in everything science has to say that has been proven time and time again, like evolution. Things like string theory and such are more recent and still in progress, so I'm not going to make my opinions about it. But that's the beauty of science, it changes according to new findings. The bible on the other hand is still the same book, it's just how people have it fit into life that has changed. ex: It was once taken very literally, now they say it's more "metaphorical".
Ironically Creationists who try to prove the Bible is literal actually end up using evolution more than a naturalist. To show Noah's ark is possible they argue that Noah may have took as little as a 1000 "kinds" of animals on the ark, each "kind" representing one "land crawling" family. To get the family diversification we have today 100's of new species would have to evolve each year since the ark. Somehow they don't call this evolution though.
@daggeron8 The thing is, if you believe in evolution you might as well believe in everything that science has to say. To accept both would mean you have to twist the words and ideals of both sides. And I'd rather stick with the one that's a given us a wealth of knowledge, power and health that up until modern times, was never available to anyone.
PS, life has been around for 350,000,000,000 years (Besides, why would god need to blink? He's perfect, so there is no need to keep his eyes moist.)
WHY is this a "MUST see for creationists"??? Creationists (Theists) don't want to see this shit, just as Evolutionists (Atheists) dont want to watch us preach. So seriously, that title would be more logical if it were: " A MUST see for evolutionists"
@a4d2d0 You mean like Theory of relativity? Atomic Theory? Germ Theory? Tectonic Theory?
yes yes... "just" another theory.
Way to expose yourself as a scientific illiterate. Please visit:
ww w(dot)notjustatheory(dot)com
and read attentively. It's only 8 short paragraphes, it won't take longer then 5 minutes. And then realise that saying things like "just a theory" is mindblowingly ignorant.
@DarwinAwardsInc Mindblowing ignorance is claiming a 84 second video proves or disproves God's existence. Also take notice to the way you attempt to ridicule and mock me, while I hold my composure just fine. If this conversation were face to face, your words would be kinder, and you, more reserved. It is easy to pretend to be something your not, while hiding behind a curtain, on the other side of the planet.
@a4d2d0 You have no excuse for your ignorance. I've pointed you to a page on the interwebs dedicated to exposing a common fallacy among religious scientific illiterates. You know now that a theory in science is not just a guess or a hunch. Funny that you didn't bother to retract your words after being shown wrong.
And yes, practical applications like the one shown in this video is evidence that the principles of evolution by natural selection are perfectly capable of "evolving" systems.
@DarwinAwardsInc Sure, but how do you atheists get off thinking you can disprove God by proving evolution? And I don't feel any need to prove God to you people, because He is obviously real. It is equivalent to me having to prove that the earth is round, or that we evolve around the sun, and the moon around us. You are right, a theory in science is not just a guess or a hunch. All it is an observation of patterns. All it takes is the tiniest break in that pattern to debunk the whole theory.
@a4d2d0 " how do you atheists get off thinking you can disprove God by proving evolution" No atheist in his right mind says such a thing. Evolution makes no mention of god whatsoever. No atheist claims that the inexistance of god can be proven because you can't prove a negative. So that was a blatant strawman.
@a4d2d0 "And I don't feel any need to prove God to you people" You don't feel any need to prove god, full stop. Not even to yourself. You're just taking it all on faith and are happy with that. We are atheist, because we have higher standards. We actually care about the truth value of what we accept as correct.
@DarwinAwardsInc Higher standards in what regard? Certainly not moral standards, as one simply has to scroll down the list of comments to see how you and your kind like to call us names, make fun of us and mock us, adopting the typical cocky-teenager know-it-all attitude. Why do you waste you time even talking to me? Perhaps because it makes you feel better. I dont care at this point, the truth is in the Qur'an whether you chooses to read it or not.
@a4d2d0 I've read the Koran, the bible, the torah and whole bunch of scriptures from other religions. What stood out was the absolute immorality of the abrahamic religions.
Higher standards in what regard you ask?
Well... we don't think slavery is ok (not today, not 2000 years ago and not tomorrow). We don't kill or torture people for their sexual orientation. We don't decapitate apostates. We don't stone our children for being disobedient. We don't kill those who work on the sabbat...
@a4d2d0 You call it "immoral" that we laugh at folks like you... Well, that's your problem. In civilised society, humor is important. And when somebody says stupid shit, it is ok to call it stupid. But we all know how emotionally fragile muslims are. Just look at what happened when somebody drew a silly cartoon. It resulted in more then 100 deaths. Sorry to say, but what your scriptures demands their followers to be is what I would call the scum of the earth. It's just bigotry and cruelty
@DarwinAwardsInc I thought Atheists don't believe in Truth? Because every atheist I know, (all those famous ones with books that are also on TV) believe in moral relativism, meaning that there is no absolute truth. If you believe that there is no absolute truth, there is a problem: You can not absolutely be sure that there is no absolute truth, because that is contradictory. Also, just by saying that you believe in truth, are contradicting yourself. So next time, use logic in your comment.
@thaddadian You fail. Morals have nothing to do with truth (why the capital T btw?).
Truth is just what is correct, what is demonstrable. And I don't need faith to accept what is demonstrable, because then I'ld have evidence. So the concept of "believing in truth" is just silly.
Morality has to do with behaviour inside a community.
So in essence, your entire post is just a stupid strawman.
@a4d2d0 " It is equivalent to me having to prove that the earth is round" No, it is not. It IS proven that the earth is round. It was NEVER proven that a god exists.
"All it is an observation of patterns." Again, no. Have you even read the page I gave you? It explains it very clearly. It is an EXPLANATION of a set of observations.
@a4d2d0 "All it takes is the tiniest break in that pattern to debunk the whole theory" Not necessarily. A "tiny break" will most likely only point to a flaw in a detail. It's gonna take a lot more to debunk the whole thing.
Secondly, I will certainly concede that evolution theory is easily falsified in the sense that there are thousands of possible scenario's to do so: (cont)
@a4d2d0 ways to falsify: find a mammal in pre-cambrian strata, find a creature that is not a primate with wich we share more ERV's then with primates are my 2 favorites. These also seem to be the easiest way to do it.
But how come nobody is succeeding? If it's wrong... why can't it be shown to be wrong? More scientists have worked harder to debunk evolution then ANY OTHER theory in science. Yet, they all fail miserably. Why?
@a4d2d0 And ps: in the vid here is not "theory". It's a demonstration of the workings of mutation and natural selection.
If anything, it's a practical application. An implementation of the principles of evolution. You know... that natural phenomena you folks claims is incapable of doing anything at all. This practical application proves you wrong. It's called "genetic algoritms". Look it up.
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very good job...can you go backward now so we can see where we come from?
Oh no you can't.....it is just perfect on your computer.
Well.... m question is:So if we evolved ,i guess some people in the precedent transition should have survived...the rest of them who didn't evolved didn't die?
Or don't tell me that 100% of the precedent mutation evolved...it is impossible
@qquuiinnoonneess I am not gonna lie to myself and say I was created by a god. All the evidence we have point towards evolution, ignoring the evidence for it, or completely misunderstanding how evolution works, such as you do, does not make it go away or make evolution false. Even if it was false it doesn't make your position right. if we where made in gods image, why is he so mediocre? if he is supernatural, outside our realm of understanding, why would he even need a form?
@desager1 I do not reject evolution!!! EVOLUTION is a slippery word. Darwin tried to explain existence with "The origin of Species" but failed to talk about how existence came to be. And he doesn't need a form. He's God.
@qquuiinnoonneess Yes, the origin of species, not the origin of life, evolution deals with the diversity of species after there was life. And if he doesn't need a form, then how could the creationists claim to be made in gods image if he doesn't have one. And how do you know there is one? Is it because your bible says it was written by god? How do you know that it just wasn't some guy claiming that?
@qquuiinnoonneess But god does have a form. He made us in his image. Question though, why does god have a penis and nipples? what does he use them for? a little off topic, but i'd like to know.
@rangerdanadventures Wow, your ignorance almost made me completely ignore this statement. Gog doesn't have a form. When he says we're made in his image he means his mental image. That statement isn't referring to how he looks like. How can God be something he created?
@qquuiinnoonneess Where does god say his mental image? isnt all life gods apparent mental image. And how do you know god is equiped with a Mentality?
Mentality is a subset of the brain. Does god have a brain? The Hindu's say Brahman created man? did god create all biological life? If so why did he create viruses and cancer cells? why did got position the male prostate gland in the worst possible place imaginable? what did god do 13.719 Billion years before he created man? plz use your brain!!!
@lmhjs1000 Man was made in God´s perfect image. The sin, sickness, imperfections and disasters we see today are a result of Satan's fall and the disobedience of Adam and Eve. But since you're all knowing, please tell me how everything came to be.
yuo say that the micro evolution becomes macro evolution: not true. by the end of you video its just abit diffferent. different...not a lot. I believe in micro evolution. new breeeds and whatnot. But while a bird can become another type of bird and a fish can become inother type of fish....a fish cannot become a human, its scientifically unproven! a THEORY. so stop stating it in textbooks and videos as if its FACT....because its not. its a theory without any solid proof
@lnfiniteKnowledge really? it doesnt? then where did humans come from? evolution states we all evolved from microorganisms in the water that became fish and then all the crap we have now. at least that was my understanding.
To try to demonstrate any form of evolution with these simple faces growing bigger green ears is ridiculous. The complexity of life forms is so great that this video is completely useless and fails at making any relevant point.
I had an idea to do an evolution simulation like this where the thing that is evolving is the code itself. Starting with a very very simple few instructions that would get executed. The controlling algorithm would only control copying errors and the memory bounds i.e. the size of the environment and might be a simple header instruction list attached to each evolving entity. There's no predefined goal this way, and I see it as mimicing the actual evolution that took place . What do you think?
in my opinion there are two postions or results in this. There are computer scientits that worked with evolution biologist and some will say, see computer simulations enhance the theory of evolution and some studies will say the opposite. but thats not my actualy point.
My point is that life is so much a mystery for itself that i cannot take computer "results" serious. It might be a weird conclusion. u can take scientific researches serious. science is and will be the only way that has substance to understand this world.
Whoever claims to disprove or prove anything, has not read or understood the scientific method. You DO NOT proof anything in science, that's what you do in Mathematics. So if anyone claims the fossil record doesn't proof evolution.. they are *#@. The fossil record simply shows the fact that there are lot of transitional forms, that's because EVERY fossil is a transitional form. You will always be able to find another fossil that is similar but different to the one you found before.
@MrIcicle no you won't! all the fossils we find are different species! where are the monkey-fish and the man-apes? show them to me, really...and I swear I will believe in evolution...but i've done my research and cannot find thses "transitional forms"
@vlogger3000 "all the fossils we find are different species!" Are you dumb? What if I find two fossils of the same species? HU? What you meant to say (I guess) is that different fossils always are from different species. WHICH F****ING TRUE, but they STILL are transitional. DUH!!! You are looking for the man-ape? Avengers #62
@MrIcicle Actually I'm dumb, too. 'Cause if you find the fossil of a freaking Chihuahua (I hate Chihuahuas, I call them battle-rats.) and the fossils of a great Dane they are still from the same species: Canis lupus familiaris. But have you ever tried breeding them? Well good luck. It's called morphological speciation. So even though genetically they could interbreed their physical differences - the great Danes dick is bigger than the Chihuahuas leg - make it impossible.
To a extent evolution exists. However we were created by a designer. The arrogant evlolution theorists will tell you differently. If there was not a designer how does evloution explain a pair of eye, not an eye, but 2 eyes. How does evolution explain a biological clock where we die? How does evolution explain that only one species out of more than a million has the intelligence of humans? It comes up with weak theories at best. But essentially it can't.
gbp2000 5 months ago
@gbp2000 Our explanations are much more substantiated and credible than "oh god did it", the "god of the gaps" argument gets weaker and weaker as time goes on,
F1R9A9G2Z 5 months ago
@F1R9A9G2Z This is completely false! As time goes by and science fails to find the missing link, as they failed to do so for over 100 years, through deductive reasoning, the creationist theory gets stronger and stronger.
gbp2000 5 months ago
@gbp2000 By "deductive reasoning" you mean "don't know how it happened, must be God?" Science is always moving forward, Religion, as it has for 2000+ years, is standing still, waiting for Science to find something out so they can distort and add in "God" wherever they can. If a god existed I'm sure it would have revealed itself to the modern population many times, and it has not. So deductive reasoning says "god" is non-existent.
F1R9A9G2Z 5 months ago
@F1R9A9G2Z There is less proof of evolution than God. Problems with evolution: 1) Two eyes for sight. 2) Two ears for sound. 3) Biological clock, which there is a girl today that is 16 y.o. that has not aged past 5. 4) The fact that Humans are the only species out of more than a million with the intelligence we possess. This strongly points to a designer 5) Savants 6) Death in and of itself 7) Evolutionist have no evidence that humans evolved, the missing link. Final: The list goes on and on..
gbp2000 5 months ago
@gbp2000 The is lot more evidence for evolution than some flying sky being that made everything and then was never seen or heard from again. If you don't mind me asking, do you follow any particular doctrine, or subscribe to a particular faith?
F1R9A9G2Z 5 months ago
@F1R9A9G2Z You turn around and say that there is no God but yet part of your argument is that if there was a God he would have showed himself by now. However, you're too clueless to even attempt to address any of the facts that I set forward. You probably spent a little time in college where they indoctinated you with thier liberalism. I agree that there are evolutionists that know what they are talking about. Unfortunately, you're not one of them. So please go bother someone else.
gbp2000 5 months ago
@gbp2000 Please, I was offering the criticism IF a god existed, would we not see it on a daily basis? We do not see this, so therefore a god does not exist. You are too clueless to see that point, and you're trying to shy away from offering an answer for it. The points you make are all "god of the gaps" arguments, and one day science will discover the answers, but as of right now, some silly sky man is not an appropriate explanation.
F1R9A9G2Z 5 months ago
@F1R9A9G2Z You turn around and say that there is no God but yet part of your argument is that if there was a God he would have showed himself by now. However, you're too clueless to even attempt to address any of the facts that I set forward. You probably spent a little time in college where they indoctinated you with thier liberalism. I agree that there are evolutionists that know what they are talking about. Unfortunately, you're not one of them. So please go bother someone else.
gbp2000 5 months ago
To a extent evolution exists. However we were created by a designer. The arrogant evlolution theorists will tell you differently. If there was not a designer how does evloution explain a pair of eye, not an eye, but 2 eyes. How does evolution explain a biological clock where we die? How does evolution explain that only one species out of more than a million has the intelligence of humans? It comes up with weak theories at best. But essentially it can't.
gbp2000 5 months ago
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Can anyone tell me if there is anyway to get the code for this program?
ahhhhjjjj 7 months ago
there are now much more detailed programs that simulate evolution that are even more convincing
judoisoww 8 months ago
its always easyer coming up with an equation when you know what you want the end results to be.
eufjoel 8 months ago
I love this video. It shows the gradual transitions in selection sped up so it can be seen. I have never under how someone can say "I believe(or accept) micro evolution, but not macro evolution."
This is akin to saying "I believe/accept inches because I can visualize it, but I do not believe in miles because it is too far away for me to grasp." When really both are the same thing.
jadedimp 10 months ago
I think you are underestimating God. Tell me this, the creator of everything, just created you and me. We all sin when we disobey God, which makes each and every human being deserving of eternal death in hell. I believe that i deserve to go to hell because of how bad i am. But because of God, i now good in me. it is not me that is good, but God in me that is good. God is a loving, punishment giving, just, righteous, allknowing, allpowerfull, infinite, and perfect God. everything he does is just.
thaddadian 11 months ago
The micro/macro debate is a straw man. There are numerous occurrences where species form numbers of populations isolated by distance wherein immediate neighbors freely interbreed while separated ones have become so unlike each other that they can't.
Speciation has been documented many times. Try Google.
psycotria 11 months ago
this only occurs ONLY in the micro... not in the macro...
There is no proof for evolution yet. only bits and pieces from the fossil record. Creationism is a finished belief ( with the base knowledge of believing in a creator, which requires faith. But since i do believe in a creator, creationism, as of right now... has TONS more evidence than evolution, because it is a completely finished belief. Until the bases of evolution is fully complete, i will not believe it. only a stupid person would.
thaddadian 11 months ago
@thaddadian NO IT DOESN'T! This, folks, is what happens when all your sources involve a church. You really don't know anything about evolution, and shouldn't be commenting here. Faith is defined as a belief in something without evidence, so saying you have evidence supporting your idea and then saying it takes faith... well, that's hilarious.
weirddudeonice 11 months ago
@weirddudeonice How everything came in to being. the only posible answer is that there is a creator that started everything. Look up Newtons laws of motion. every action requires and equal or opposite reaction. Since the universe in expanding, it had to have started somewhere. The only possible answer is a creator. the big bang doesn't make any sense. So overall, there are two choices, big bang (without creator), or big bang with a creator. It takes the same amount of faith to believe in either.
thaddadian 11 months ago
@thaddadian No, it isn't. That law of motion has almost nothing to do with the fact the universe is expanding. You must prove the action that caused the expansion was done by the god you believe in before that works. Please sum up what you know about The Big Bang THEORY, if you would. I'd like to see if you understand it. Faith absolutely isn't involved with The Big Bang Theory, Christians tend to try to say that we use just as much faith as they do. 1. We don't, and 2., that never, ever works.
weirddudeonice 11 months ago
@weirddudeonice the big bang theory requires just as much faith as christian need to to believe in a God. I have looked into the big bang theory, and it doesn't make any sense. Because there will always be matter. nothing can make or eliminate matter. The universe CANNOT come into being from nothing. The big bang theory states that a something happened from nothing (no matter how complex or cool it is). This, my friend, is not possible and takes an enormous amount of faith to believe in.
thaddadian 11 months ago
@thaddadian Fool! If you've truly looked into the Big Bang Theory (which I seriously doubt), you'd understand that the Big Bang didn't create matter. all matter and energy was compressed into a super dense point, which expanded. No one knows how matter existed before that point. And If "the universe CANNOT come into being from nothing", then tell it to your religion and the Bible.
weirddudeonice 11 months ago
@weirddudeonice All that super dense matter must have a beginning. The only answer to that is an infinite creator that is not bound by the laws of physics. or else it would not be possible for the super dense matter to even exist.
thaddadian 11 months ago
@thaddadian The existence of such a being makes as much sense as that matter coming from nothing, I don't see why we should believe what you say. Besides, you haven't and really can't prove that's what happened.
weirddudeonice 11 months ago
@weirddudeonice When comes to the bases, (only by looking at the beginning of the universe), the amount of faith needed is the same. BUT after looking at how complex life is (just look at the humans intelligence, mind, and brain; no one can explain how it works), it seems more likely that we were created by design, rather then by random matter exploding. When i look at the world, I see everything being extremely complex, i cant help but to believe otherwise that there is a designer behind it all
thaddadian 11 months ago
@thaddadian Uh, yes we can too explain intelligence, the mind, and DEFINITELY the brain. I honestly don't want to sound rude, but what's your educational background? It's not more likely at all. A supernatural explanation is always less likely than a natural one. Random matter? I don't see how it was random, and it was an expansion, nothing actually blew up. If that's what you see it as, then I really can't help you. You're looking at the world through the goggles of Christianity.
weirddudeonice 11 months ago
@weirddudeonice When i say random matter i refer to the random time that the matter came into existence. Also, I simply believe in a God because without a God, life would be meaningless. I want to ask you a question, and it is a little off topic, but after you answer yes or no (or maybe a little interesting answer) i will respond back. k? here it is: Do you believe that people have a conscience, general morals? or Do you believe in good and bad things, or is everything relative for you?
thaddadian 11 months ago
@thaddadian So? I don't see why there has to be a purpose at all. I hear that one more than you'd think, people trying to say life would be meaningless without god, so there has to be. Well so what? Though I believe we create our own purpose in life. Yes I do. Though I can explain why a conscience and general morals don't come from the god you believe in, if that's what you were going after.
weirddudeonice 11 months ago
@weirddudeonice @weirddudeonice So, if you believe in good and bad, then where DID it come from, if it wasn't from God? Do animals have morals, or do they only have instinct? Do animals steal or lie knowing that it was wrong? I don't think so. Either you believe that God created morals, or you believe people made morals. If people did make up morals, then morals are not real, just as religion is not real, because making up something does not make it true. continue the next comment---->
thaddadian 11 months ago
« where DID it come from »
From people. Doing something that hurts people, generally speaking, is bad. Doing something that helps people, generally speaking, is good.
XGralgrathor 11 months ago
« Do animals have morals »
Animals don't have *human* morality, but they do have codes of conduct governing their behaviour towards one another and towards their environment.
XGralgrathor 11 months ago
« or do they only have instinct? »
Why do you think that your immediate reaction (in terms of what you think is good or bad) to some action is something more than instinct? Do you generally think things over before you decide how you feel about it? Don't you have a first response?
XGralgrathor 11 months ago
« If people did make up morals, then morals are not real »
... Huh? How so?
XGralgrathor 11 months ago
@weirddudeonice -----> Atheists must believe the either of the following, you choose: People made up morals, therefore there is no good or bad in reality, or morals just appeared into animals during evolution. If you chose any of those, then you must believe that Hitler was not a bad guy. Because if morals appeared at random, then they wouldn't be dependable, then losing all its value as a true moral. So either you believe all is relative, or you must believe in moral law and a moral law giver.
thaddadian 11 months ago
« People made up morals, therefore there is no good or bad in reality »
That's sheer nonsense. People invented laws and constitutions. Does that mean that our laws and constitutions aren't real? People invented theories describing aspects of nature, such as quantum mechanics, relativity theory. Does that mean that these theories don't exist? People invented plans for espresso machines; does that mean that plans for espresso machines aren't real?
Stop talking bollocks, kid.
XGralgrathor 11 months ago
« So either you believe all is relative, or you must believe in moral law and a moral law giver. »
That's a false dichotomy. There is no reason why "moral law" must be absolute. And in fact *you* don't believe in an absolute "moral law": you've made your notion of "moral law" contingent on whatever your god happens to think of something - without having any way of knowing how that god is going to think about something.
XGralgrathor 11 months ago
@XGralgrathor my absolutes for moral law comes from the Bible.... btw this argument is going nowhere... so im out.
thaddadian 11 months ago
« my absolutes for moral law comes from the Bible »
But even the bible itself testifies of a change in morality between old and new testament. So how can any morality you derive from the bible be absolute?
(And by the way, I really would not recommend trying to uphold Mosaic Law this day and age; you're likely to end up in prison.)
XGralgrathor 11 months ago
@XGralgrathor You are so ignorant when it comes to the Bible. The consequence of sin is death. Before Jesus died, people had to be killed when they sinned. It was the consequence. But in the new testament, God made a new covenant with us. Jesus' death on the cross covers all of our sins. Therefore killing someone after they sinned is no longer needed, because Jesus already died for them. God, himself, died as a substitute for our sins, so that we don't have to. That is the loving God i worship.
thaddadian 11 months ago
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@XGralgrathor You are so ignorant when it comes to the Bible. The consequence of sin is death. Before Jesus died, people had to be killed when they sinned. It was the consequence. But in the new testament, God made a new covenant with us. Jesus' death on the cross covers all of our sins. Therefore killing someone after they sinned is no longer needed, because Jesus already died for them. God, himself, died as a substitute for our sins, so that we don't have to. That is the loving God i worship.
thaddadian 11 months ago
« The consequence of sin is death »
Depends on what you call "sin", eh?
« Before Jesus died, people had to be killed when they sinned »
... Why? Why did your god require a human sacrifice before he was able to forgive? Certainly a benevolent, just and allpowerful god would have been able to forgive without the human sacrifice?
No, the trends in the bible are clear: in the OT, there is indiscriminate killing and cruelty; in the NT, there's much less of that. A clear change in morality.
XGralgrathor 11 months ago
@XGralgrathor Sin is defined in the Bible. The bible is not cruel at all. EVERYONE, including me, deserves to die, because in the beginning, Adam sinned. Death is our punishment, and we all deserve it. If you just made a bunch of people out of play doh, and breathed life into it, wouldn't you have all the right to destroy one if it started to curse you and hate you??? of course. God has the right to kill us at anytime, and it would be just, because He made us, and we are cursing him. cont. --->
thaddadian 11 months ago
« The bible is not cruel at all »
I'm sure it's perfectly fine to commit genocide and smash babies' skulls open against rocks in your book. But not in mine. Go away now.
XGralgrathor 11 months ago
@XGralgrathor It is not okay to kill people. But when God passes Judgment... He is God, and he has the right to do whatever He wants. GOD... not a mear little person on earth... GOD!... the creator of EVERYTHING! GOD! HE can destroy his "little play doh creatures" if he wants... because we went against our own creator.
And show me one verse in the Bible where God commands people to smash baby's heads on rocks. God does nor torture anyone. And there is no such verse that says that about babies.
thaddadian 11 months ago
« HE can destroy his "little play doh creatures" if he wants »
So you're saying that might makes right? What kind of morality is that?
XGralgrathor 11 months ago
@XGralgrathor A Godly one. Now.... i dont feel like arguing anymore... because this is going nowhere... good bye.
thaddadian 11 months ago
« HE can destroy his "little play doh creatures" if he wants »
So you're saying that might makes right? What kind of morality is that?
« A Godly one »
Then the god you believe in is evil, and you are evil for worshipping it.
XGralgrathor 11 months ago
@XGralgrathor There is no evil in God whatsoever. He is the Just creator of Heaven and Earth.
thaddadian 10 months ago
« There is no evil in God whatsoever »
According to the bible there is. The Koran is no more flattering to its god. Virtually every scripture has its gods do some unspeakable acts.
XGralgrathor 10 months ago
@XGralgrathor I am evil because i sin, and so does everyone else. Everyone deserves death. People are evil, not God. Therefore, God has all the right to pass judgment on who ever he wants, which makes him Just, punishing those who are evil. you, me, and everyone else in the world. But when Jesus came, dying for our sins, He took the punishment of sin on himself, a perfect person. That was the ultimate sacrifice. Because of that, we are now not bound by sin and evil anymore, but by God's grace.
thaddadian 10 months ago
@thaddadian Ha! I just LOVE this argument. You realise that god sacrificing himself to himself to create a loophole in a rule he himself created is insane? Don't you? That makes no sense, and that's exactly what happened, you can't deny it for a second. I can give you a quote from the Bible that has the god you believe in saying he created all the evil in the universe, meaning he made sin, evil, etc. in the first place. I don't see how you believe in, worship, and even love this thing.
weirddudeonice 10 months ago
@weirddudeonice Evil and sin is the absence of God. Nothing cannot make the absence of something. That doesn't make any sense.
thaddadian 10 months ago
@thaddadian No, it really isn't. Sorry. Unless you can demonstrate that it is, of course, or prove to me that you're correct. You can't just say that. But yes, you're correct, that doesn't make any sense.
weirddudeonice 10 months ago
@weirddudeonice The Bible says that just as darkness in the absence of light, evil is the absence of God. That is the only demonstration that you can possibly give for that.
thaddadian 10 months ago
@thaddadian Why should I care what the Bible says? Have you demonstrated that the Bible is correct? But even if I did:
"I form the light, and create darkness:
I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord
do all these things."
-- Isaiah 45:7
The Bible says that too, so.. uh...
If you want to talk about things that don't make sense, how about someone creating his own absence? That's a good one!
weirddudeonice 10 months ago
@weirddudeonice WOW you're stupid, the lord said " i form light ,and create darkness" to mean, i made light thus creating a darkness, in science there is only light and no such other thing, darkness is the absence of light, same for good and evil, evil is the absence of good, same for basicly everything, even heat and cold, you must realize that the most high god speaks of science, he even says for people to go into the field of science so they may better understand him and his creatures
adamleon97 7 months ago
@adamleon97 3 MONTHS AGO? Are you high? Evil is not the absence of good, because it is possible to take no action, or do something that benefits no one. However, as long as it doesn't harm or cause detriment to anyone, it's not evil. Now listen you ignorant troll, I'd actually advise thinking of what someone may say in response to what you do before you post things. THEN you may avoid making a fool of yourself. And get off. You clearly know little to nothing about evolution anyway.
weirddudeonice 7 months ago
@weirddudeonice Fair enough, just know this, the longer you think about what i say, the more it proves true, i too once beleive that this was false but i have changed, i just wanted you to know that what you're saying is off but sorry i didn't notice this comment was 3 months ago
adamleon97 7 months ago
@adamleon97 That's fine, just pay attention to the date on comments.
weirddudeonice 7 months ago
@weirddudeonice o.K. i will do that next time, and once again sorry for the intrusion
adamleon97 7 months ago
@adamleon97 "God speaks of science" [citation needed].
LPAcerAspireOne 7 months ago
« I am evil because i sin, and so does everyone else. Everyone deserves death. »
You are evil because you are unwilling to escape the bonds of doctrine. You are evil because you judge that other people merit death. Yet not even you yourself deserve death, in my view. I would like very much for you to shut your filthy trap, though.
XGralgrathor 10 months ago
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« Before Jesus died, people had to be killed when they sinned »
O, and before I forget:
Fuck you. Creep.
XGralgrathor 11 months ago
@thaddadian Sorry for the delay, I had no access to internet for a while. Morals come from the fact that you and I live together. For us to survive and do well in life, we must cooperate. Therefore, anything that helps you is good, anything that harms you is bad. THAT is where morals come from. Your Hitler comment makes no sense, and please answer me, why are so many creationists hung up on Hitler? No one cares! But seriously though, that's sad.
weirddudeonice 10 months ago
« without a God, life would be meaningless »
Why? How does meaning require gods?
XGralgrathor 11 months ago
Nice Videos! Religion is a cancer of society. If you believe Heaven exists, and you know you're going there, wouldn't you have no fear of dying? When religion is taught to children, it's hard (sometimes impossible) for them in later life to break that curse. Would you rather know the answer to something that's not true, instead of just sticking with the unknown?
KarbineKyle 11 months ago
Creationists are only people themselves, it is not their duty to negate how god created the earth. God created science. So they should respect the evidence and not turn so many people off god by rejecting physical truth created by god
Tiimeh 11 months ago
A genetic algorithm is the best way to illustrate how evolution REALLY works.
No matter how many generations pass, you will always have the number of genes than the generation before. That means that from a monkey you can get a lot of monkey species, but will never get any other animal. Humans do not have the same number of chromosomes with monkeys, so according also to the GA that we see here, cannot come from them. However, GAs show that the strongest survive and reproduce, who said otherwise
burridheut 11 months ago
@lmhjs1000 That's called variation.
Imhjs1000, do you really think that those circle you have drew are really perfectly round?
Most evolutionist think that they are smarter, and they are always right, but they are not.
AbeleWong 1 year ago 2
@AbeleWong if the shapes he drew were not round, they are not circles.you cant say that because they werent drawn round, then circles arent round, because they arent circles in the first place. when people draw circles with a compass (for example) they arent trying to draw a perfect circle. they are trying to draw an accurate representation of one. perfect circles do not exist in real life. circles are, in fact, round. anyone who disagrees with this then they dont know what a circle is...
greensp4rk 11 months ago
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@greensp4rk
The question is for Imhjs1000 only. I did not said circle is round or not.
But since you response me, I would like to ask you, do you agree that those give a thumbs down really think circles aren't round?
If yes, how do you know that those gave a thumbs down really think that circles aren't round, where is the evidence?
If no, do you agree that lmhjs1000 is arrogant?
AbeleWong 11 months ago
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@AbeleWong "Most evolutionist think that they are smarter, and they are always right, but they are not." This is an ignorant statement of yours. You do not represent most of the evolutionist ? Have you met the millions who accepts evolution and looked at the evidence ?
I'm pretty sure, evolutionist never think they are always right. Because nobody is always right. Right and Wrong depends on our survival, and what is true or not.
DoNotLaughAtMe 11 months ago
by believing in evolution, you are telling everybody that that since we are just evolved animals, then we have no basis of moral law in our minds (because animals do not have that). So since you do not believe in that, you must believe that Hitler was not a bad man, and that he did what he wanted to because he thought it was right. oh but wait... according to you, there is no right or wrong, because we don't have a moral code.... :)
thaddadian 1 year ago
It is so sad to see people so set on not wanting to worship their creator so much they become obsessed with making videos to convince others that they are ok. Even though you do not believe that GOD is the creator of all things doesn't mean he doesn't exist. You are blinded by your sin against him. You have committed many sins against GOD and they will not go unpunished. You will bow your knee to Jesus on Judgement Day and see how wrong you were.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation lol.
davidls11 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation What if I didn't bow? Would something bad happen?
ElementElijahRayne 1 year ago
@ElementElijahRayne It may be that at his throne all thought will be pure and uncorrupted by Satan or the fallen flesh as we have now.
Philippians 2:9-11 9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
Then what you are stating is an utterly moot point. It is starkly obvious that evolution alone does not disproove the existance of a god, and most atheists would not think this way. We don't base our atheism on what sciece knows, but on what it doesn't know yet. Science cannot tell if there is a god so it is pointless to just assume that there is one, bereft of any testable evidence. You may aswell just believe spiderman is real, That can't be disprooved either.
nailedurmum01 1 year ago
LOL, i'm amazed how people try to deny even what they see. The genetic algorithms were inspired by evolution (not created to prove evolution, they do that implicitly), and they basically work the same way. Selection is defined by goal function that can be extremely complex, and evolution itself by mutation and crossbreed of particular genomes that represent each generation. Optimal genome (solution) is found even faster than with many other methods. Try wiki for further info.
newone811 1 year ago
Can you send me the program's source code? i wanna implement it in Java
MrJordanstech 1 year ago
I'm more of a Rationalist; I believe that God left us here and that we must solve things for ourselves, much like a clock. It will run on it's own without God needing to fix us and keep us running. Fate is chosen by us, not God.
MultiNerve 1 year ago
@MultiNerve I wouldn't say thats Rational I'd say its Deistic.
ronocko 1 year ago
@MultiNerve How is that rational ? Rational in this case I would say is believing only what is based on evidence. So where isthe evidence for your worldview ?
MrRichardQED 1 year ago
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@MrRichardQED Religion is based on FAITH, which is believing in something without evidence. Faith is the cornerstone of religion.
MultiNerve 1 year ago
eh i dont get it.
crabbit87 1 year ago
Oh dammit, why would you make such a video addressed to creationists? Seriously, just do your stuff and get the information out and dont get biased by the need to proof something to someone who won't believe you either way.
AntsanParcher 1 year ago
i believe in evolution, but this proves nothing. It just prove that a computer program can make small changes over many copies
memberHD 1 year ago
Nice. Air FTW
Scabota 1 year ago
Why is the rating so poor? 2:1 up-down ratio...
WhiteDragon103 1 year ago
It would be improbable to make a more precise clear, lucid video on the subject... Sadly many will simply never understand
64Ways2Die 1 year ago
since when is calling someone preposterous tantamount to having a potty mouth?
jfeltes 1 year ago
@daggeron8
'Oh thought you were serious.
jfeltes 1 year ago
@daggeron8
Actually your assuming a shit load of shit you know nothing about. First of all your assuming god even has eyes and that such eyes can even blink. The "Eyedea" is just lame and retarded you can't figure out the age of anything by presuming how long it takes god to blink an eye. It's just absurd and preposterous.
jfeltes 1 year ago
@daggeron8
LOL that's retarded. The earth is 1000 X the amount of times you blink in a day. LOL that's just so dumb.
jfeltes 1 year ago
At lest you lost more time making this video than I watching it...
Winters11 1 year ago
@daggeron8 way older than the earth than
BaltoMovie 1 year ago
Darwin does not know the cause of variations so he claims it to be random which is a faith based argument...as is most of his theory. billions of years on earth and mutations (damages in a genetic code) does not prove darwins theory the entire theory mostly faulty speculation that i can no longer defend (and no, i am still not a bible thumper).
Playitalready 1 year ago
@PlayitalreadyYou're right; he didn't know the source of either mutation or heritability. He toyed with lamarckism, but knew that was wrong, too. So he just stated what was obvious from observation: there is a system for mutation and heritability, and let it go at that. It turned out that 100 years later the details were finally tracked down, and DNA was discovered to do both jobs. The mutations are indeed random. You're right that mutations and time don't prove the ToE. ...
puncheex 1 year ago
... What proves it is morphology, physiology, microbiology, genetics, phylogeny, medicine, paleontology and geology.
I can tell you're not very biology-aware, either. The random basis of mutations is rather basic, and calling observation of that fact "faith".
puncheex 1 year ago
@daggeron8 I believe in everything science has to say that has been proven time and time again, like evolution. Things like string theory and such are more recent and still in progress, so I'm not going to make my opinions about it. But that's the beauty of science, it changes according to new findings. The bible on the other hand is still the same book, it's just how people have it fit into life that has changed. ex: It was once taken very literally, now they say it's more "metaphorical".
VideoHunter13 1 year ago
Ironically Creationists who try to prove the Bible is literal actually end up using evolution more than a naturalist. To show Noah's ark is possible they argue that Noah may have took as little as a 1000 "kinds" of animals on the ark, each "kind" representing one "land crawling" family. To get the family diversification we have today 100's of new species would have to evolve each year since the ark. Somehow they don't call this evolution though.
mrpayne123 1 year ago
@daggeron8 The thing is, if you believe in evolution you might as well believe in everything that science has to say. To accept both would mean you have to twist the words and ideals of both sides. And I'd rather stick with the one that's a given us a wealth of knowledge, power and health that up until modern times, was never available to anyone.
PS, life has been around for 350,000,000,000 years (Besides, why would god need to blink? He's perfect, so there is no need to keep his eyes moist.)
VideoHunter13 1 year ago
There isnt an single evolutionary biologist than differentiates Micro and Macro evolution as a seperate process or mechanism...
A day is micro evolution...
A year is macro evolution...
Its not that hard to grasp
lmhjs1000 1 year ago
WHY is this a "MUST see for creationists"??? Creationists (Theists) don't want to see this shit, just as Evolutionists (Atheists) dont want to watch us preach. So seriously, that title would be more logical if it were: " A MUST see for evolutionists"
a4d2d0 1 year ago
@a4d2d0 "WHY is this a "MUST see for creationists"??? "
Because it proves your ass wrong.
DarwinAwardsInc 1 year ago
@DarwinAwardsInc Doesn't prove anything. It is just another theory.
a4d2d0 1 year ago
@a4d2d0 You mean like Theory of relativity? Atomic Theory? Germ Theory? Tectonic Theory?
yes yes... "just" another theory.
Way to expose yourself as a scientific illiterate. Please visit:
ww w(dot)notjustatheory(dot)com
and read attentively. It's only 8 short paragraphes, it won't take longer then 5 minutes. And then realise that saying things like "just a theory" is mindblowingly ignorant.
DarwinAwardsInc 1 year ago
@DarwinAwardsInc Mindblowing ignorance is claiming a 84 second video proves or disproves God's existence. Also take notice to the way you attempt to ridicule and mock me, while I hold my composure just fine. If this conversation were face to face, your words would be kinder, and you, more reserved. It is easy to pretend to be something your not, while hiding behind a curtain, on the other side of the planet.
a4d2d0 1 year ago
@a4d2d0 You have no excuse for your ignorance. I've pointed you to a page on the interwebs dedicated to exposing a common fallacy among religious scientific illiterates. You know now that a theory in science is not just a guess or a hunch. Funny that you didn't bother to retract your words after being shown wrong.
And yes, practical applications like the one shown in this video is evidence that the principles of evolution by natural selection are perfectly capable of "evolving" systems.
DarwinAwardsInc 1 year ago
@DarwinAwardsInc Sure, but how do you atheists get off thinking you can disprove God by proving evolution? And I don't feel any need to prove God to you people, because He is obviously real. It is equivalent to me having to prove that the earth is round, or that we evolve around the sun, and the moon around us. You are right, a theory in science is not just a guess or a hunch. All it is an observation of patterns. All it takes is the tiniest break in that pattern to debunk the whole theory.
a4d2d0 1 year ago
@a4d2d0 " how do you atheists get off thinking you can disprove God by proving evolution" No atheist in his right mind says such a thing. Evolution makes no mention of god whatsoever. No atheist claims that the inexistance of god can be proven because you can't prove a negative. So that was a blatant strawman.
DarwinAwardsInc 1 year ago
@a4d2d0 "And I don't feel any need to prove God to you people" You don't feel any need to prove god, full stop. Not even to yourself. You're just taking it all on faith and are happy with that. We are atheist, because we have higher standards. We actually care about the truth value of what we accept as correct.
DarwinAwardsInc 1 year ago
@DarwinAwardsInc Higher standards in what regard? Certainly not moral standards, as one simply has to scroll down the list of comments to see how you and your kind like to call us names, make fun of us and mock us, adopting the typical cocky-teenager know-it-all attitude. Why do you waste you time even talking to me? Perhaps because it makes you feel better. I dont care at this point, the truth is in the Qur'an whether you chooses to read it or not.
a4d2d0 1 year ago
@a4d2d0 I've read the Koran, the bible, the torah and whole bunch of scriptures from other religions. What stood out was the absolute immorality of the abrahamic religions.
Higher standards in what regard you ask?
Well... we don't think slavery is ok (not today, not 2000 years ago and not tomorrow). We don't kill or torture people for their sexual orientation. We don't decapitate apostates. We don't stone our children for being disobedient. We don't kill those who work on the sabbat...
DarwinAwardsInc 1 year ago
@a4d2d0 You call it "immoral" that we laugh at folks like you... Well, that's your problem. In civilised society, humor is important. And when somebody says stupid shit, it is ok to call it stupid. But we all know how emotionally fragile muslims are. Just look at what happened when somebody drew a silly cartoon. It resulted in more then 100 deaths. Sorry to say, but what your scriptures demands their followers to be is what I would call the scum of the earth. It's just bigotry and cruelty
DarwinAwardsInc 1 year ago
@DarwinAwardsInc I thought Atheists don't believe in Truth? Because every atheist I know, (all those famous ones with books that are also on TV) believe in moral relativism, meaning that there is no absolute truth. If you believe that there is no absolute truth, there is a problem: You can not absolutely be sure that there is no absolute truth, because that is contradictory. Also, just by saying that you believe in truth, are contradicting yourself. So next time, use logic in your comment.
thaddadian 1 year ago
@thaddadian You fail. Morals have nothing to do with truth (why the capital T btw?).
Truth is just what is correct, what is demonstrable. And I don't need faith to accept what is demonstrable, because then I'ld have evidence. So the concept of "believing in truth" is just silly.
Morality has to do with behaviour inside a community.
So in essence, your entire post is just a stupid strawman.
DarwinAwardsInc 11 months ago
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@a4d2d0 " It is equivalent to me having to prove that the earth is round" No, it is not. It IS proven that the earth is round. It was NEVER proven that a god exists.
"All it is an observation of patterns." Again, no. Have you even read the page I gave you? It explains it very clearly. It is an EXPLANATION of a set of observations.
DarwinAwardsInc 1 year ago
@a4d2d0 "All it takes is the tiniest break in that pattern to debunk the whole theory" Not necessarily. A "tiny break" will most likely only point to a flaw in a detail. It's gonna take a lot more to debunk the whole thing.
Secondly, I will certainly concede that evolution theory is easily falsified in the sense that there are thousands of possible scenario's to do so: (cont)
DarwinAwardsInc 1 year ago
@a4d2d0 ways to falsify: find a mammal in pre-cambrian strata, find a creature that is not a primate with wich we share more ERV's then with primates are my 2 favorites. These also seem to be the easiest way to do it.
But how come nobody is succeeding? If it's wrong... why can't it be shown to be wrong? More scientists have worked harder to debunk evolution then ANY OTHER theory in science. Yet, they all fail miserably. Why?
DarwinAwardsInc 1 year ago
@a4d2d0 And ps: in the vid here is not "theory". It's a demonstration of the workings of mutation and natural selection.
If anything, it's a practical application. An implementation of the principles of evolution. You know... that natural phenomena you folks claims is incapable of doing anything at all. This practical application proves you wrong. It's called "genetic algoritms". Look it up.
DarwinAwardsInc 1 year ago
The level of ignorance found in the comments on these videos is mind-blowing even by YouTube standards.
sausabe 1 year ago
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runnersluck1 1 year ago
@runnersluck1 yes it did. of course that creature didn't have a name but it turned from species A to species B
badpanda84 1 year ago
@badpanda84 yes your right it turned into u wahahahahahahahhahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaahahhaha
runnersluck1 1 year ago
You are also an idiot for keeping this program top secret.
2t22tornadosiren 1 year ago
Evolution for id-iots (beta)
2t22tornadosiren 1 year ago
Say. More. About. Your. Program.
If your program is really that top secret, say it.
2t22tornadosiren 1 year ago
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2t22tornadosiren 1 year ago
or that circles are not shapes...
JacktheJuggler 1 year ago
493 Thumbs down!
493 people think circles arent round?
lmhjs1000 1 year ago 8
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@lmhjs1000 "493 people think circles arent round?"
That's called "Variation". Without variation, will you believe in evolution?
Besides, lmhjs1000, do you really think that those circles you have drew are absolutely round circle?
Most of those evolutionist like you think that all circles are round, it is as easy as ABC, but in fact, they are wrong.
AbeleWong 1 year ago
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very good job...can you go backward now so we can see where we come from?
Oh no you can't.....it is just perfect on your computer.
Well.... m question is:So if we evolved ,i guess some people in the precedent transition should have survived...the rest of them who didn't evolved didn't die?
Or don't tell me that 100% of the precedent mutation evolved...it is impossible
teriiura 1 year ago
very cool! Well made.
BrooklynRagtag 1 year ago
This makes a lot of sense.
Of course, I can actually think.
Many Christians are brainwashed into paranoid delusional non-thinking zombie-like states.
ytuber28341 1 year ago
wow 492 ppl watched this. the dumbass meter is out of control.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
Intelligent design > Darwinism
qquuiinnoonneess 1 year ago
@qquuiinnoonneess Evolution > intelligent design, intelligent design = stupid
desager1 1 year ago
@desager1 If you wanna lie to yourself and believe you have no purpose, go ahead and do so, but just know the truth will not hide itself. God Bless.
qquuiinnoonneess 1 year ago
@qquuiinnoonneess I am not gonna lie to myself and say I was created by a god. All the evidence we have point towards evolution, ignoring the evidence for it, or completely misunderstanding how evolution works, such as you do, does not make it go away or make evolution false. Even if it was false it doesn't make your position right. if we where made in gods image, why is he so mediocre? if he is supernatural, outside our realm of understanding, why would he even need a form?
desager1 1 year ago
@desager1 I do not reject evolution!!! EVOLUTION is a slippery word. Darwin tried to explain existence with "The origin of Species" but failed to talk about how existence came to be. And he doesn't need a form. He's God.
qquuiinnoonneess 1 year ago
@qquuiinnoonneess Yes, the origin of species, not the origin of life, evolution deals with the diversity of species after there was life. And if he doesn't need a form, then how could the creationists claim to be made in gods image if he doesn't have one. And how do you know there is one? Is it because your bible says it was written by god? How do you know that it just wasn't some guy claiming that?
desager1 1 year ago
@qquuiinnoonneess But god does have a form. He made us in his image. Question though, why does god have a penis and nipples? what does he use them for? a little off topic, but i'd like to know.
rangerdanadventures 1 year ago
@rangerdanadventures Wow, your ignorance almost made me completely ignore this statement. Gog doesn't have a form. When he says we're made in his image he means his mental image. That statement isn't referring to how he looks like. How can God be something he created?
qquuiinnoonneess 1 year ago
@qquuiinnoonneess Where does god say his mental image? isnt all life gods apparent mental image. And how do you know god is equiped with a Mentality?
Mentality is a subset of the brain. Does god have a brain? The Hindu's say Brahman created man? did god create all biological life? If so why did he create viruses and cancer cells? why did got position the male prostate gland in the worst possible place imaginable? what did god do 13.719 Billion years before he created man? plz use your brain!!!
lmhjs1000 1 year ago
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@lmhjs1000 Man was made in God´s perfect image. The sin, sickness, imperfections and disasters we see today are a result of Satan's fall and the disobedience of Adam and Eve. But since you're all knowing, please tell me how everything came to be.
qquuiinnoonneess 1 year ago
@lmhjs1000 + 1
Also, isn't god un-knowable?
Guitareben 1 year ago
@Guitareben lol tell that to the pope - God is unknowable but he hates Gays and abortion because I said he dose
badpanda84 1 year ago
yuo say that the micro evolution becomes macro evolution: not true. by the end of you video its just abit diffferent. different...not a lot. I believe in micro evolution. new breeeds and whatnot. But while a bird can become another type of bird and a fish can become inother type of fish....a fish cannot become a human, its scientifically unproven! a THEORY. so stop stating it in textbooks and videos as if its FACT....because its not. its a theory without any solid proof
vlogger3000 1 year ago
@vlogger3000 You moron. Evolution doesn't state a fish can turn into a human, or anything close to that.
lnfiniteKnowledge 1 year ago
@lnfiniteKnowledge really? it doesnt? then where did humans come from? evolution states we all evolved from microorganisms in the water that became fish and then all the crap we have now. at least that was my understanding.
vlogger3000 1 year ago
@vlogger3000 "at least that was my understanding. " You need to greatly increase your understanding then.
desager1 1 year ago
To try to demonstrate any form of evolution with these simple faces growing bigger green ears is ridiculous. The complexity of life forms is so great that this video is completely useless and fails at making any relevant point.
ebirdyca 1 year ago
I had an idea to do an evolution simulation like this where the thing that is evolving is the code itself. Starting with a very very simple few instructions that would get executed. The controlling algorithm would only control copying errors and the memory bounds i.e. the size of the environment and might be a simple header instruction list attached to each evolving entity. There's no predefined goal this way, and I see it as mimicing the actual evolution that took place . What do you think?
pocoapoco2 1 year ago
in my opinion there are two postions or results in this. There are computer scientits that worked with evolution biologist and some will say, see computer simulations enhance the theory of evolution and some studies will say the opposite. but thats not my actualy point.
Serpico261 1 year ago
@pocoapoco2
My point is that life is so much a mystery for itself that i cannot take computer "results" serious. It might be a weird conclusion. u can take scientific researches serious. science is and will be the only way that has substance to understand this world.
Serpico261 1 year ago
Whoever claims to disprove or prove anything, has not read or understood the scientific method. You DO NOT proof anything in science, that's what you do in Mathematics. So if anyone claims the fossil record doesn't proof evolution.. they are *#@. The fossil record simply shows the fact that there are lot of transitional forms, that's because EVERY fossil is a transitional form. You will always be able to find another fossil that is similar but different to the one you found before.
MrIcicle 1 year ago 22
@MrIcicle no you won't! all the fossils we find are different species! where are the monkey-fish and the man-apes? show them to me, really...and I swear I will believe in evolution...but i've done my research and cannot find thses "transitional forms"
vlogger3000 1 year ago
@vlogger3000 "all the fossils we find are different species!" Are you dumb? What if I find two fossils of the same species? HU? What you meant to say (I guess) is that different fossils always are from different species. WHICH F****ING TRUE, but they STILL are transitional. DUH!!! You are looking for the man-ape? Avengers #62
MrIcicle 1 year ago
@MrIcicle Actually I'm dumb, too. 'Cause if you find the fossil of a freaking Chihuahua (I hate Chihuahuas, I call them battle-rats.) and the fossils of a great Dane they are still from the same species: Canis lupus familiaris. But have you ever tried breeding them? Well good luck. It's called morphological speciation. So even though genetically they could interbreed their physical differences - the great Danes dick is bigger than the Chihuahuas leg - make it impossible.
MrIcicle 1 year ago
@MrIcicle Fossil record proves the existance of intelligent design thank you
runnersluck1 1 year ago