i bought the fake one and i knew it was a fake and it was obvious when a looked at it, but it sounds a lot better than the original mic of my Canon T3i. For $5, i had nothing to lose. I don't wanted to pay more for the use i will make of it.
Great video, made me realize I've had the fake version for at least 3 years, no wonder why I was never pleased with the quality of the recordings I did with it.
The band has an EXTREAMLY poor sound system ...WAY BASSY an mutted . Under normal situations The fake sounds better..fuller and richer.. the Real Sony sounds thin and tinny on voice or normal situations.
I'm trying to find an original SONY ECM-DS70P but it seems I'm out of luck, for example I searched on ebay and found two original mics one costed ~118$ without shipping and the other one ~88$ without shipping which are unbelievable prices. Any idea where can I find an original one for my kodak zi10(playtouch)?
Just want to thank you for putting this video up. I purchased a second-hand mic from a reputable music dealer for £20, only to find that it a fake. This video convinced the dealer in question that there is an issue, and a full refund no more problems. THANK OU!
I also bought a ps3 dual shock control thinking it was the real one and it came out to be a fake one! I thought it was real because it looks just like the original and it had the Sony brand on the control but when I received it and opened it (which by the way even the packaging looked exactly like an authentic one) it felt really different than from the original one it felt heavier and harder so I decided to open it up to see the parts and everything was like really cheap material the battery,
In France the "real" Sony mike costs about 10 times the price of the fake one (on eBay for ex). The true question is: is such a price difference worth with regard to the respecive audio quality???
not sure if you've run into this problem or not, I just got the fake mic today and have it working on a right angle stero to stero adapter. Anyway I get both left and right channels just fine when I don't have it plugged in but when I use the mic with and without the adapter I only get the left channel. Any idea what could be the problem? I know you can go back in an editor and fix that but it shouldn't be that way.
not sure if you've run into this problem or not, I just got the fake mic today and have it working on a right angle stero to stero adapter. Anyway I get both left and right channels just fine when I don't have it plugged in but when I use the mic with and without the adapter I only get the left channel. Any idea what could be the problem? I know you can go back in an editor and fix that but it shouldn't be that way. Doing it with a Zi8
most electret elements will yield 20khz response down to well below human audible. the material and physical construction is obvious, as the sony original actually looks like the mold production people were paid to work, but the fakes look like some guy scraped the mold with an xacto knife and sandpapered the finish. the parts fit is poor on the fake, the printing is sloppy and the raised lettering is easier to read on the true sony. my 'fake' i bought performs just as good as the 'real mcoy'.
hi i bought a shure sm58 mic of ebay for £43.75 but payed to a person in ireland who is selling the mic for 50.00 euro, he has 100% positive feedback and 26 stars and is registerd as a business seller, i just want to know if it wud be fake or not and if it is fake how would i know and what i should do about it thanks!
i have orderd a shure sm58 mic of ebay brand new from someone in ireland but he has a 100% positive feedback and has 26 stars, the price of the mic is 50 euro but i payed in gbp £43.75 but he is registerd as a business seller, i just want to know if this cud be fake or not and if it is fake what should i do?
I gotta say this is a great informative video, just the reason why you tube was created. I got the bootleg and it works fantastic. Don't knock it before you spend $70+ on the real mccoy! The sony Dictaphone digital unit I have has bad low end response and the bootleg mic has increased bass sensitivity so I actually recommend it and I only paid $5!
Great Video. I have bought one of these mics, and plugged it into several mixers and I want to use my creative zen to record it, but iam not getting any signal, can u help? Do u need plug in phantom powers? And dose it not work via line in? Many Thanks LEW
i was going to get a couple of the fake ones to use as drum mics. i dont want perfect quality but i want some wat ok quality. is it a good idea to get the fake ones or should i get some different mics?
Drastic difference in sound quality... and I got taken by the fake one. I'm fairly sure I also got ripped off with a fake pair of sony in-ear headphones.
well that explains everything! i got one great recording off the fake (2/15/10) - my first, everything after that had issues and most was mono. AND i found out last night that the cable that came with it doesn't work. i'm about to upload audioless video :(
I actually got my Zi8 to do music videos (liked the ext mic opt) so I bought the Audio-Technica Pro24 Stereo mic. You'll spend a bit more for it tho - about $70 US. But with the level control on the camera, it's very good for recording both solo & live performance.
The fake market seems to be huge. I bought an earphone/mic combo from some random vendor on eBay for my Sony Ericsson cellphone for about $5. It didn't work.
Bought the genuine article direct from Sony. It worked. I compared the two, including packaging, and there was no noticeable difference. It was only when you plugged the fake in that you knew it was fake because the phone didn't recognize it.
Xcellent work dude! - we are just about to buy a dozen of these on eBay for our staff. THANKS for saving us a shitload of frustration. The SOUND SUX on that disco scene. (Not sure if it's ALL the mic's fault :-) But seriously, it's always BUYER BEWARE! Here's hoping Good karma will find you - you've earned some !
Anyone else notice the packaging on the fakes? It seems that if they come in those sealed "chip" bags, they're fake. I've never seen fakes in retail packaging. It also seems that once the price gets under about $30, it's pretty clear that it's not genuine.
Thanks for the comments. To answer a few of the questions:
If you want to see a guide for upgrading the fake mic, check the video posted by 'fishycomics' - he uses a bedford tech mic replacement.
As for finding the real thing for cheap, just shop around. I actually got my real mic off of ebay. I asked the seller plenty of questions before bidding and also made sure the picture in the auction was of the mic I'd be getting. A lot of sellers show a real mic and send a fake. Thanks for viewing!
@pcoffing Thanks for the additional info. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you get the "real" mic for on ebay? Do all the "real" ones come with a cable as well?
Real mic was bought for approx. $25 on ebay. Fake one was purchased on Amazon Marketplace. "real" mic comes with cable and removeable lapel clip. Note: real cable has "Sony" embossed on it.
Great informative video!!! Sorry to say that I too was an idiot by purchasing the fake version on Ebay. But thanks to this video I determined mine was a fake an opened up a case on Ebay. Subsequently I received a full refund. Now that I'm stuck with the fake, I want to know if you can share with us what $20 inner replacements are you referring to (to improve sound quality)? Thinking about buying the "REAL" version if that doesn't work. Thank you!
mines fake. Oh well, still sounds good for what i do with it.
boggerbro51 5 days ago
cheers m8 helped a lot mines fake!!!!!
Gadgetscrazy12345678 1 week ago
i like the squareness tho.... :(
MrMoviesEpic 2 weeks ago
@vent25kn Does it works well with the canon t3i ?
mytechs00 1 month ago
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mzola22 1 month ago
Thanks a lot for testing these out and explaining the differences. I know this is an old video, but it helped to save me some money!
adamlyon 1 month ago
i bought the fake one and i knew it was a fake and it was obvious when a looked at it, but it sounds a lot better than the original mic of my Canon T3i. For $5, i had nothing to lose. I don't wanted to pay more for the use i will make of it.
vent25kn 1 month ago
aww i got a fake
samkonetsky 2 months ago
@samkonetsky haha
4SCREAMS 1 month ago
The first thing i saw is the sony screen print is fucking awful ... completely bent
mrswizzful 2 months ago
Great video, made me realize I've had the fake version for at least 3 years, no wonder why I was never pleased with the quality of the recordings I did with it.
juanfr22 3 months ago
Just a better fit and finish all the way around... not to mention audio quality.
AsknotwhatUcan 3 months ago
The band has an EXTREAMLY poor sound system ...WAY BASSY an mutted . Under normal situations The fake sounds better..fuller and richer.. the Real Sony sounds thin and tinny on voice or normal situations.
WOB1010 3 months ago
best tip,when it seems to good to be true,it's a rip off or fake.
inagod 4 months ago
Thanx a lot...just 5 minutes before i buy fake one!
fastrick 4 months ago
they both suck so i doubt it'd matter.
MikeyTSH 6 months ago
WHO DF CARES IF ITS BOOT LEG as long as it produces the same quality idgaf
RCASALE2 8 months ago
@RCASALE2 Did you not watch the video? It's clearly worse quality.
3GBlog 7 months ago
@3GBlog sound quality i ment
RCASALE2 7 months ago
thanks man really use full
adrianjackass17 8 months ago
Great comparison! Thanks for clarifying some of the details.
nathanpruitt1 8 months ago
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wadago 8 months ago
@pcoffing I'm just bought a fake mic but I bought two small 8mm mics to go inside of it. I'll do a how to of the new mics very soon.
ItsDamianLOL 9 months ago
I'm trying to find an original SONY ECM-DS70P but it seems I'm out of luck, for example I searched on ebay and found two original mics one costed ~118$ without shipping and the other one ~88$ without shipping which are unbelievable prices. Any idea where can I find an original one for my kodak zi10(playtouch)?
crackerworld 9 months ago
@crackerworld here's an original not to expensive cool lil' mic available at Sony online store:
store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=11035572
vent25kn 1 month ago
Is the fake mic recording on MONO or STERIO?? good comparison video, very helpful:-)
FaithfulTrigger 9 months ago
The difference is awesome when listening in 720p !
LRob45 10 months ago
Just want to thank you for putting this video up. I purchased a second-hand mic from a reputable music dealer for £20, only to find that it a fake. This video convinced the dealer in question that there is an issue, and a full refund no more problems. THANK OU!
Phedrus1975 1 year ago
THANK YOUUUUUU !!
Lowdown13blues 1 year ago
I also bought a ps3 dual shock control thinking it was the real one and it came out to be a fake one! I thought it was real because it looks just like the original and it had the Sony brand on the control but when I received it and opened it (which by the way even the packaging looked exactly like an authentic one) it felt really different than from the original one it felt heavier and harder so I decided to open it up to see the parts and everything was like really cheap material the battery,
gjairo49 1 year ago
Thank you! Unfortunately, I found that I just bought another fake mic thinking that is the real one and paid 25 dollars for it!
I'll contact the company who sells those.
felinec2 1 year ago
Best test footage ever!!!
studios696 1 year ago
Real mic is wayyyyy better, thanks for video
JazzFiveO 1 year ago
In France the "real" Sony mike costs about 10 times the price of the fake one (on eBay for ex). The true question is: is such a price difference worth with regard to the respecive audio quality???
waltinous 1 year ago
can someone tell me if the fake one is better than the kodak zi8 mic?
TeamManny12 1 year ago
I wouldn't buy this whether real or not. Ugly.
dvamateur 1 year ago
Sorry, but paying $5 for a Sony product? Can only be fake. Nice comparison though.
flylxy 1 year ago
Hey, for a difference in about $30, the fake doesn't seem so bad. :)
Chaytup 1 year ago
Thanks for the vid.. Saved me from buying the fake just about five minutes ago!
kateyed 1 year ago
not sure if you've run into this problem or not, I just got the fake mic today and have it working on a right angle stero to stero adapter. Anyway I get both left and right channels just fine when I don't have it plugged in but when I use the mic with and without the adapter I only get the left channel. Any idea what could be the problem? I know you can go back in an editor and fix that but it shouldn't be that way.
amb4901 1 year ago
not sure if you've run into this problem or not, I just got the fake mic today and have it working on a right angle stero to stero adapter. Anyway I get both left and right channels just fine when I don't have it plugged in but when I use the mic with and without the adapter I only get the left channel. Any idea what could be the problem? I know you can go back in an editor and fix that but it shouldn't be that way. Doing it with a Zi8
amb4901 1 year ago
its kodak zI 8 not zed 8...
XxMEVANSxX 1 year ago
most electret elements will yield 20khz response down to well below human audible. the material and physical construction is obvious, as the sony original actually looks like the mold production people were paid to work, but the fakes look like some guy scraped the mold with an xacto knife and sandpapered the finish. the parts fit is poor on the fake, the printing is sloppy and the raised lettering is easier to read on the true sony. my 'fake' i bought performs just as good as the 'real mcoy'.
HapticX 1 year ago
Fakes are better lol
mikelo303 1 year ago
hi i bought a shure sm58 mic of ebay for £43.75 but payed to a person in ireland who is selling the mic for 50.00 euro, he has 100% positive feedback and 26 stars and is registerd as a business seller, i just want to know if it wud be fake or not and if it is fake how would i know and what i should do about it thanks!
SoULja51NGH 1 year ago
i have orderd a shure sm58 mic of ebay brand new from someone in ireland but he has a 100% positive feedback and has 26 stars, the price of the mic is 50 euro but i payed in gbp £43.75 but he is registerd as a business seller, i just want to know if this cud be fake or not and if it is fake what should i do?
please help thanks!
SoULja51NGH 1 year ago
I gotta say this is a great informative video, just the reason why you tube was created. I got the bootleg and it works fantastic. Don't knock it before you spend $70+ on the real mccoy! The sony Dictaphone digital unit I have has bad low end response and the bootleg mic has increased bass sensitivity so I actually recommend it and I only paid $5!
JMLdesigns 1 year ago
I need more proof , OPEN IT! (just kidding) I modded with Bedford tech, and justthat nothing special. These clones will break in due time
fishycomics 1 year ago
huge difference in quality
josephstott 1 year ago
I think the fake sounds a little better.
lewisvz 1 year ago
Just the video i was looking for, thanx !
PlopTv 1 year ago
thanks guys
dhollseed 1 year ago
Thanks very much! I saw this YouTube video just in time to keep me from purchasing a fake mike.
ElizabethDempsey 1 year ago
the first mic records in mono not stereo.
Thanks
JaimeVives 1 year ago
Great Video. I have bought one of these mics, and plugged it into several mixers and I want to use my creative zen to record it, but iam not getting any signal, can u help? Do u need plug in phantom powers? And dose it not work via line in? Many Thanks LEW
lewiselvismaduk 1 year ago
Thanks a loot for the video, i saw it after confirming the purchase, but befor paypal paying. So i aborted the payment !
Thank you so much !
LRob45 1 year ago
i was going to get a couple of the fake ones to use as drum mics. i dont want perfect quality but i want some wat ok quality. is it a good idea to get the fake ones or should i get some different mics?
commentman789 1 year ago
Drastic difference in sound quality... and I got taken by the fake one. I'm fairly sure I also got ripped off with a fake pair of sony in-ear headphones.
ByteSmasher 1 year ago
well that explains everything! i got one great recording off the fake (2/15/10) - my first, everything after that had issues and most was mono. AND i found out last night that the cable that came with it doesn't work. i'm about to upload audioless video :(
pike024 1 year ago
hi can you tell me what camera you where using at the disco
stevo9401 1 year ago
I actually got my Zi8 to do music videos (liked the ext mic opt) so I bought the Audio-Technica Pro24 Stereo mic. You'll spend a bit more for it tho - about $70 US. But with the level control on the camera, it's very good for recording both solo & live performance.
guitarbrad 1 year ago
is there a cable to connect it to the computer? cause my plug in is way at the back and i don't want the mic at the back of the computer lol
LonelyVietz 1 year ago
You will need an extension cable for that, but they are pretty cheap & good to have.
You can get a 6 foot 1/4 inch (3.5mm) cable for about 2 bucks.
guitarbrad 1 year ago
@guitarbrad awesome thanks you =]
LonelyVietz 1 year ago
That should read 1/8 inch (3.5mm) cable not 1/4.
guitarbrad 1 year ago
BTW, 5 stars for the end footage, I love MJ.
GadgetTrish 2 years ago
Thanks!!!
pcoffing 1 year ago
Very helpful, thank you for posting.
GadgetTrish 2 years ago
Thank you. Great video.
partyspindj 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this!
blackadder3 2 years ago
Thanks for good service !!!
bikersweden 2 years ago
Hi!
Do you know if I could use ir for Skype? Conecting to my Sound card on my computer?
Sincerely, Rodrigo
rmappita 2 years ago
@rmappita yes you can use it with skype.
explodyhead 2 years ago
Thank You! =)
rmappita 2 years ago
The fake market seems to be huge. I bought an earphone/mic combo from some random vendor on eBay for my Sony Ericsson cellphone for about $5. It didn't work.
Bought the genuine article direct from Sony. It worked. I compared the two, including packaging, and there was no noticeable difference. It was only when you plugged the fake in that you knew it was fake because the phone didn't recognize it.
drauhx 2 years ago
THANKS
MinhonYT 2 years ago
how much the original Sony ECM-DS70P???
astoniz 2 years ago
Xcellent work dude! - we are just about to buy a dozen of these on eBay for our staff. THANKS for saving us a shitload of frustration. The SOUND SUX on that disco scene. (Not sure if it's ALL the mic's fault :-) But seriously, it's always BUYER BEWARE! Here's hoping Good karma will find you - you've earned some !
anonymousradioshow 2 years ago
Meh .. nit-picky comparisons. You get what you pay for, which, in this case for the sake of pcoffing, includes peace of mind.
helloimwes 2 years ago
haha i have fake one :) .... from eeebay :D
FaraiLT 2 years ago
Greatly informative video..
Anyone else notice the packaging on the fakes? It seems that if they come in those sealed "chip" bags, they're fake. I've never seen fakes in retail packaging. It also seems that once the price gets under about $30, it's pretty clear that it's not genuine.
Supreme2k 2 years ago
Thanks for the comments. To answer a few of the questions:
If you want to see a guide for upgrading the fake mic, check the video posted by 'fishycomics' - he uses a bedford tech mic replacement.
As for finding the real thing for cheap, just shop around. I actually got my real mic off of ebay. I asked the seller plenty of questions before bidding and also made sure the picture in the auction was of the mic I'd be getting. A lot of sellers show a real mic and send a fake. Thanks for viewing!
pcoffing 2 years ago
@pcoffing Thanks for the additional info. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you get the "real" mic for on ebay? Do all the "real" ones come with a cable as well?
uneqstylez 2 years ago
Real mic was bought for approx. $25 on ebay. Fake one was purchased on Amazon Marketplace. "real" mic comes with cable and removeable lapel clip. Note: real cable has "Sony" embossed on it.
pcoffing 2 years ago
@pcoffing Thank you, As the bedford techs, frogger store, worked fine, but the housing is EL cheapo, will break in due time
fishycomics 1 year ago
thanks for this video..
germanshepherd13 2 years ago
Great informative video!!! Sorry to say that I too was an idiot by purchasing the fake version on Ebay. But thanks to this video I determined mine was a fake an opened up a case on Ebay. Subsequently I received a full refund. Now that I'm stuck with the fake, I want to know if you can share with us what $20 inner replacements are you referring to (to improve sound quality)? Thinking about buying the "REAL" version if that doesn't work. Thank you!
uneqstylez 2 years ago
Thanks, good informal video!
Jo0ngle 2 years ago
Thanks, was just about to buy the cheapy from Ebay....done good service there!
paulcan38 2 years ago
Awesome Vid man! Where can i get some for a good price?
sacruz1984 2 years ago