to the people on this channel thinking of taking roids i have took them for five years i am 6'2 262 pounds with 16% body fat you can look huge and get alot of attention, but it still does not happen over night and you will work 3 times as hard as a natural body builder but make sure you do it in moderation
Don't do it! Just don't,(steroids I mean) remember the tortoise won the race, and as for being 37 and getting old, FUCK THAT! just look at you two. You both look way younger and probably feel younger than you did before you got into the brotherhood of iron.
thank you. he made the top statement right there. ME AS A WOMAN DON'T LIKE TO SEE EVERY DAMN MUSCLE AND TENDON MOVE WITH THE SLIGHTEST ACTIONS. SMH. that shit looks disgusting. smh. those bodybuilders look gross and highly unnatural. If you move your pinky, I don't want to see the 50 muscles you had to use to make it move. smh. So why bother with that insanity. Now yes, a guy in shape is an excellent thing. the problem comes when y'all tend to overdo it. smh.
You fucks look no older than 25-26. You look AWESOME, whether you guys reach your "genetic potential" or not.. Just keep on lifting at the level you guys are on if anything, it couldn't hurt. It's definitely not down hill from there for you guys.. once you hit mid 50's I'd say it's downhill from there, and that's a long way away. I'm 21 now, hope to God I look that young and yoked at 37.
@MegaUnavailableusern I think they're talking about mass more then strength. Which I agree with you that you'll still get stronger for a few more years. I don't get why the weight is so important to people.
You cant think steroids are going to get you big straight away. You still have to work your MOTHERFUCKING ASS off to get big. All steriods do it pumps your Testosterone faster through your body which helps get more nutrition into your body.
there is no such thing as genetic maximum... you can always gain some muscle ... it just gets slower and slower. I know some natural bodybuilders who have been doing it for more than 15 years, and still gaining muscle. only a few pounds a year, but still progress and that's gonna add up in another 10 years ;)
@ezet they won't be gaining a few pounds of MUSCLE after working out for 15 years. you can only naturally build a few pounds of muscle wen you FIRST START working out, so a few founds of muscle after 15 years of consistent weight lifting is improbable and even impossible
I started lifting at 17. Going into my senior year in high-school I gained 30 lbs. My biggest gain ever; no stetoids. I went from 145 to 175. I'm 38 now and weigh 200- 205. 6'1". Body fat is always around 10% (+-1%.). 30 lbs in 3 months is possible. I was however in a growth spurt and my natural testosterone was raging. That's a perfect time for a male to be lifting weights. Those gains I made then were permanent.
I you wanna get bigger or weigh more if you add a signifgant amount of fat to yourself and then work it off your muscles will be bigger and you'll weigh more, now you wont be any stronger but you'll be bigger.
Unless you have HCG and legit roids don't do them. You will do 3-4 fake roids for each good cycle you get. Too many fakes. Besides you don't keep what you get.
lol i bet through out the whole video he was like hmm i wont take steroids its not worth it and THEN RIGHT AT THE END WHEN HE SAID ( YOU CAN BUY WATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANA BUY!!! ) ... dude done injected some test in his ass lol ... hope you reached 240 bro lol or watever
Steroids inflate your testosterone so for a time yeh, then you'll get a severe case of limp dick and acordion dick for keeping your inner chemistry all flop sided. Then you'll get bitch tits and shrunk balls room all the estrogen you'll now be producing.
How much different will steroids do?i am 14yr's old. and i Tok from 14 to 19 in a month with dumbells.. what do you think it will take if i use steroids? please reply :)
@azmanrugby what?theres nothing to believe in?its just a fact! all people are different,have different sized muscle bellies,different thickness of muscles facia,different amounts of testosterone,differnt amounts of receptors,it goes and on and fucking on mate,that comments dumb as fuck.two ppl working as hard as eachother will end up with different results at the end.work rate applys in life but not in bodybuilding.an ectomorphic male will not achive a body that an mesomorphic male will achieve
After a cycle of steroids,it's much harder to add any muscle whatsoever. All you can really do is just maintain your weight and hope your estrogen levels don't backlash. The twins should really review what they put out on YouTube. I can smell hypocrites.
6'2" and 214 lbs is actually kinda skinny. i'm 5'10", 245. i'm not exactly lean tho. but the dude just said he's a bodybuilder. what does that mean? does he compete, or is it just for his ego? cause if he wants to go pro, he's got a looot of catching up to do. his genes must not be for getting big. i wish i was 6'2".
@secutorclaudius 6'2 214 skinny? Ha you're fucking crazy. Im 6'1 180 and most people who aren't body builders think im a hulk. 200 is pretty big. And the fact is, the shorter you are, the less stretched out your muscles have to be, so with you being 5'10 245, that would make you around the equivilient of my brother, who is 215~ and hes massive as fuck. You might just have bad genetics.
@Xelvielll "the less stretched out your muscles have to be" what does that mean? "You might just have bad genetics" i wasn't always this size. 13-15 yrs ago i was into muay thai, 170 lbs. but the point is, this guy wants to compete (go pro i assume?). those guys will make him like a toothpick.
Testosterone injections will be superior alternative to steroids as they will not transform into estrogen(female hormone) later on after injection. But you can lift for 30 years and then reach your genetic potential twins. Its just that after 25s say for instance, then yeah your gains stall..but then at 40s after your muscle fibers matured then you can gain again.. =)
See for example Scooby1961 here on youtube..old huge natural dude, lifted 30 years!
@aznmanrugby Don't believe in genetics? God damn, you're a fucking moron.
If you have bad genetics, I wouldn't say you will never have a nice body, but when it comes to bodybuilding, you can pretty much fucking forget it. Genetics are #1, right in front of diet.
To answer the guy's question in the video steroids are safe given the right circumstances man, they're even practical in terms of medicinal potential. They become unsafe when taken in ridiculous amounts, but if one is well educated, steroids can provide a means to achieve goals that otherwise would be genetically impossible. Gains can also be permanent if someone is familiar with proper post-cycle therapy and a disciplined diet. Its all about research, but that's just my two cents.
There are a lot of girls that don't even find that "big bodybuilder" look attractive. They would rather go for the prettyboy "Taylor Lautner" types, lol.
Bodybuilders look unnatural and there is nothing attractive about that!!! am yet to come across a woman who thinks bodybuilders look great if anything they are repulsive!! But the twins body's are smoking hottt!!
That is freaking true a Woman will cheat on you with a Fat basterd dont matter how built you are!!! Im 6'0 185lbs. Lean and Natural...Woman Left me for a 5'3 275lbs. Freakin troll of a dude...LMAO
I don't think one should take steroids unless it is a high priority in your life to be able to bench press 2x your bodyweight, deadlift 3x your bodyweight, or squart 2.5x your bodyweight.
Twins I hope you get this, I know someone at my gym who trains naturally, he's about 5 8" and 55 years old, he's trained since he was 18 and looks better than any steroid user I know, he has cut his routine down so his caterbolic rate doesn't kick in & diets and rests well, less is more is his attitude and he doesn't go really heavy, what I am saying is that you still have a long way to go if you keep changing your routine and shock those muscles, you genetic potential is more than you think :-)
These twins are right-go natural, eat healthy, rest well and train right-who needs steroids as it's just a quick fix for how one feels & being excepted, as the twins say, dudes are comparing themselves to steroid users when really they will look better naturally, listen to these guys as they know what they are talking about, don't go for quick fixes, just educate yourselves, train hard, diet well and rest well and you will gain good muscle women will love because thats what it's really about :)
@steven288 thats a silly comment, if someone is taking a mass gainer / creatine / protein, and then stops. They wont see the gains as if they were taking them. They cant train as hard as long. Dont recover as fast, and wont build the muscle or lose the fat as they were before. So to say that about roids, isnt saying anything at all. Its like, if you run 5 miles everyday for a year. And then take 6 months off, you wont be at the same level as you were when you left.
@steven288 Has a lasting effect, which is why here once Athletes take roids, they are banned for life even after 5 years of stoppage because it changes the muscle for a VERY long time.
@steven288 that's how to do steorids bro multiple cycle every year but steroids bring you to another stage and u can take hgh too and u keep the muscle with hgh
@steven288 There is thing called HCG therapy steroid users go through, which allows their body to produce normal amount of testostrone quickly so our body can go back on track and not lose the gains from cutting off from Steroids...Please go do your research before making nonsense. Its always uneducated fucktards end up with bad things with steroids ;)
@steven288 lol u dont gain 16lbs of muscle on any cycle lmao u maybe gain 5-10 pounds the rest is water weight so gain 20 pounds u lose 15-10 pounds of water not mucsle. but anyway sterioids arent the greatest to take but if taken properly its not gunna kill you anytime soon lol but if u wanna take it go ahead
@85Damix eating vegetables causes u to lose 20 years of life. Since were both spouting unsubstantiated claims, why dont u do something useful and back your claim up with some evidence. There has never been a single study done linking the use of steroids with a shortened life span.
@asdffdsafdsa123 There's many stuies. Most of them are done on animals and the lifespam was shortened by about 30% (25-45% depend on intensity and hormone equivalent) the 20 years is about 30% percent of human lifespan so it's not a random number. Pro hormones like "Andro" cause impotence in 90% of subjects. You should realise that people who sells supplements has no qualifications and were educated in public school or KFC. I have done 8 years full time Premed, I'm not MD or equivalent but....
@85Damix impotence whilst they are on the prohormones, and were not talking about prohormones, were talking about steroids. once again, there have NOT been studies which have successfully linked steroid usage and lifespan in humans. It is a very well known fact that steroids causes men to stop producing sperm whilst they are on them, why would u even bring that up. If you can link a study which specifically correlates steroid usage and human lifespan i would like to read it.
@asdffdsafdsa123 Prohormones and steroids are more less same. It's like a making difference betwen ephedrine and meta-anfetamine both are alcalic amins and do same things but the first one is legal but the other one isn't. The effect on animals (mammals) is same like on humans. The reason why there are no studies done on people (healthy) is (in Europe) it would be classed as attempt to murder or assisting suicide (many years in prison). But there are hundreds of biochem papers....
@asdffdsafdsa123 part two: papers that prove my statement. Think, how good are those people who promotes this stuff good in biochemistry how do they understand Physiology?
DO you know why prormones cause impotence? It's a male hormone precursor... try to find it on google :)
Apart of Creatine are all supplements crap.
People who are on steroids for long time suffer. They will not tell you (to not look like retards). They live in pain, all of them.
@85Damix to equate pro hormones to steroids is really ignorant. You clearly learned very little about steroids in your 8 years of premed. It looks as if you only studied prohormones at med school rather than steroids, is that why you keep going back to them? Everyone knows why steroids cause impotence, they shut down natural testosterone production so no sperm is produced.
@asdffdsafdsa123 It's not ignorant at all. It's a precursor Imagine it as incomplete puzzle (of Androgenic steroid) which will be finished by endoplasmosis to full hormone. Again it's like get headshot by blue painted bullet instead of green painted. Technically they are two different things... but...
I'm trying to keep it simple. About the impotence it's little more complicated. We all start as a women for first couple of weeks, later if HY antigen is released. We start changing into men ....
@85Damix you are retarded. i dont believe you have a medical degree. You are talking about gender determination and fetal development when im talking about steroids? you think you are smart, but you are actually really fucking stupid.
Prohormones have a low conversion rate to steroids, are bad for the liver, they have almost no anabolic effect whilst giving you bitch tits and are a total waste of time and money.
@asdffdsafdsa123 I just tried to explain something very complicated in one paragraph.It may look quite confusing. Prohormones leaving particles which triggers (random) secondary procedures in your body. about he prenatal ... I've just tried to explain that your body keep "blueprints" also for women parts for example after andro there can be found in your body SP-A protein (affects pregnancy length) also cause bone epyphise . Anabolic effect depends on purity and delivery method
@85Damix yes its common knowledge there are receptors for the female hormone in male tissue, thats why the steroids are called ANDROGENIC you fucking moron, are u rly that stupid? why are u trying to explain something which i clearly already understand?
@asdffdsafdsa123 Random triggering ERalpha/Beta by estrogen spikes leads to browning of white AT tissue (CAB/WAT) which leads brain stem degeneration and early death.
Can be prevented by using tamoxifenis but there is a link to a kidney cancer in combinations with "kidney boosters" cause too high ACE with kills kidney faster than cancer especially in combination with low grade Creatine
@asdffdsafdsa123 and important is your blood PH (acidity) which effects NR3C4 <-- flat androgen receptors sensitivity. It's really bad stuff, low purity stuff conatins really shitty stuff... Theres about 30000 different proteins which can be prodeced by your body, random triggering is really bad stuff. You can't see the consequences. You have multiple outputs from the ADR reaction.
@85Damix you are wrong. Androgenic steroids cause impotence because they stop the body from producing testosterone, NOT because of the fact that they get converted into estrogen.
@asdffdsafdsa123 DO you have any clue why the production of Testosterone (the one by cholesterol steroidogenesis) stops? Androgenic steroids does not change into estrogen - they leads to estrogen spikes which is a good Altzhaimer booster :)
@85Damix negetive feedback due to the very high levels of synthetic testosterone in the body. Androgenic steroids aromatize and get converted into estrogen.
@asdffdsafdsa123 part two: thats why you've got nipples :) Disbalance between testosterone and estrogen leads to more less random transformations in your body. You've start changing into women and back in same time. Random control proteins are created which orders others stuff. Brain stem panicking and then next (random) dose come in making bigger chaos in your biochem. Various subsystems becoming miss configured making more errors. Oxygen distribution isn't accurate any more...
@85Damix no gives a shit about yur 8 years of premed, if you said you had studied steroids for 8 years then i might care. why the fuck are u talking about people who sell supplements? were not even talking about supplements, were talking about steroids. If you are trying to say most of the supplements out there are a useless waste of money then i agree with you.
@asdffdsafdsa123 I have used word supplements because I'm not sure about the proper name for those people.I have started visiting Gym from 1.1.2012. It's hard but I will not give up :) Week ago I was sitting on a banch and resting ...I was really tired and some guy (really big one) and offered me for "reasonable price" and "safe" way how to get big faster. I have refused so he went to two (maybe 16yo boys) who started with me ...and I think they brought that stuff. They are like drug dealers.
yall from tx huh
diondenzel 18 hours ago
easy for you fucks to say, you're black.
SyracuseAesthetics 2 days ago 2
@SyracuseAesthetics very true
177ronaldoc 15 hours ago
37. Damn son. You guys look younger than guys in their early 20s.
americansmark 3 days ago
@americansmark give them a kiss already nigga
aztecramos 15 hours ago
Tell it like it is Hodgetwins !!
Roger161 4 days ago
DAMN YOU LOOK YOUNG I THOUGHT YALL WAS MY AGE 27
keithhobbs 5 days ago
there is no fucking way he's 37.
JoeyLaslo 6 days ago
to the people on this channel thinking of taking roids i have took them for five years i am 6'2 262 pounds with 16% body fat you can look huge and get alot of attention, but it still does not happen over night and you will work 3 times as hard as a natural body builder but make sure you do it in moderation
aburton1486 6 days ago
Don't do it! Just don't,(steroids I mean) remember the tortoise won the race, and as for being 37 and getting old, FUCK THAT! just look at you two. You both look way younger and probably feel younger than you did before you got into the brotherhood of iron.
timtrainage 1 week ago
look like teenage mutant ninja turtle hahaha
01058sr 1 week ago
thank you. he made the top statement right there. ME AS A WOMAN DON'T LIKE TO SEE EVERY DAMN MUSCLE AND TENDON MOVE WITH THE SLIGHTEST ACTIONS. SMH. that shit looks disgusting. smh. those bodybuilders look gross and highly unnatural. If you move your pinky, I don't want to see the 50 muscles you had to use to make it move. smh. So why bother with that insanity. Now yes, a guy in shape is an excellent thing. the problem comes when y'all tend to overdo it. smh.
loveflour 1 week ago
@loveflour Bitch, you'll never even have a guy that's that ripped. So stfu and you're one ugly bitch no one gives a shit what you think
EatLessDuck 6 days ago
@loveflour so trueeee!
bj4ms 5 days ago
I love how he says his age to his brother... his twin brother about his age in a way that the brother doesn't know how old he is. LOL.
loveflour 1 week ago
i gained 3 kg of muscle just watching this video
alpen13 1 week ago
you can put on ALOT more muslce than you guys think.. just look at spartens..they were huge not taking roids...
jwb864 1 week ago
@jwb864 you idiot, where did you see actuall picture of spartans...
jichbong 1 week ago
@jichbong
LMAO
za1pp 4 days ago
@jwb864 They were also supposedly very short compared to people of our time...in other words they are going to look far bigger then they are.
kurtis1916 1 week ago
HOLY SHIT HE"S 37???!! I could've swore they were 27 or something
ee248 1 week ago
You fucks look no older than 25-26. You look AWESOME, whether you guys reach your "genetic potential" or not.. Just keep on lifting at the level you guys are on if anything, it couldn't hurt. It's definitely not down hill from there for you guys.. once you hit mid 50's I'd say it's downhill from there, and that's a long way away. I'm 21 now, hope to God I look that young and yoked at 37.
GabezNsane 2 weeks ago 8
37 yrs old? Congrats
lcarrasco212 2 weeks ago
0:29
crerar87 2 weeks ago
they say you cant put on much more muscle after 5 years but u can surely get stronger after 5 years of training so thatz fucked up
MegaUnavailableusern 2 weeks ago
@MegaUnavailableusern I think they're talking about mass more then strength. Which I agree with you that you'll still get stronger for a few more years. I don't get why the weight is so important to people.
Terreos 1 week ago
@Terreos not important to me i just care about strength gains and I guess small mass gains will come with it
MegaUnavailableusern 1 week ago
OHHHH SHIIIIIIIIIITTT!!!!!!!!! LOL 2:14
iHydra 2 weeks ago
that steriods is shit it can not be safe for your body
misterajax11 2 weeks ago
Into your muscles.
iisFRESHness 2 weeks ago
You cant think steroids are going to get you big straight away. You still have to work your MOTHERFUCKING ASS off to get big. All steriods do it pumps your Testosterone faster through your body which helps get more nutrition into your body.
iisFRESHness 2 weeks ago
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kraznot 3 weeks ago
Take steroids if you want to, know the risks. I know the risks and i wont take them
Nabolzi 3 weeks ago
No. nuff said
JudderSound 3 weeks ago
there is no such thing as genetic maximum... you can always gain some muscle ... it just gets slower and slower. I know some natural bodybuilders who have been doing it for more than 15 years, and still gaining muscle. only a few pounds a year, but still progress and that's gonna add up in another 10 years ;)
ezet 3 weeks ago
@ezet they won't be gaining a few pounds of MUSCLE after working out for 15 years. you can only naturally build a few pounds of muscle wen you FIRST START working out, so a few founds of muscle after 15 years of consistent weight lifting is improbable and even impossible
fallenangels24 2 weeks ago
I hate when Kevin's phone gets a text. Because i always think its mine lol...
CKenwell 3 weeks ago
I started lifting at 17. Going into my senior year in high-school I gained 30 lbs. My biggest gain ever; no stetoids. I went from 145 to 175. I'm 38 now and weigh 200- 205. 6'1". Body fat is always around 10% (+-1%.). 30 lbs in 3 months is possible. I was however in a growth spurt and my natural testosterone was raging. That's a perfect time for a male to be lifting weights. Those gains I made then were permanent.
Tappedurassout 3 weeks ago
1.18 WELL.......hey boy shut up!! these guys are cool
backthemack 3 weeks ago
37 years old? BULL SHIT!! You look like mid 20s..
KoskN123 3 weeks ago 6
SHUT UP YOU STUPID FUCKING PHONE!! lol
inlandprosound2000 3 weeks ago
@sezour you are full of bs you reak of it
Pukes63 3 weeks ago
@Pukes63 I'm 10 and I but on 50lbs in 1 mnths
kingboss9000 3 weeks ago
@kingboss9000 Im 3 and I put on 50lbs in 2 days
thegoodboy 3 weeks ago
@thegoodboy I'm still in the womb(wifi in here) and I put on 50lbs in a millisecond.
kingboss9000 3 weeks ago
im 15 and put on about 30lbs in 5 mnths
tdthor66 3 weeks ago
@tdthor66 Im 14 and put on 50lbs in 2 mnths
sezuor 3 weeks ago
I you wanna get bigger or weigh more if you add a signifgant amount of fat to yourself and then work it off your muscles will be bigger and you'll weigh more, now you wont be any stronger but you'll be bigger.
physicalgrafiti12345 3 weeks ago
im 15 and i put on like 30lbs in like 9 months
Decap1t4ted 3 weeks ago
fuck me i thought you guys were like 23 hahaa
xXSlashBoiXx 3 weeks ago 2
1.20
shut up evil twin its my turn to speak!!!
ClintIron 3 weeks ago
Lol can ya'll answer the phone one time, hahaha
Marticorena44 3 weeks ago
37!!! wow thought u guys were like 29.... defo looking good.
otf1985 3 weeks ago
haha i bet he was talking about naturalgraham LOLOL
TheLmaoMaster 3 weeks ago
Unless you have HCG and legit roids don't do them. You will do 3-4 fake roids for each good cycle you get. Too many fakes. Besides you don't keep what you get.
PYSCOPOMP 3 weeks ago
2:14 jawt !
whiteraider 4 weeks ago
lol i bet through out the whole video he was like hmm i wont take steroids its not worth it and THEN RIGHT AT THE END WHEN HE SAID ( YOU CAN BUY WATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANA BUY!!! ) ... dude done injected some test in his ass lol ... hope you reached 240 bro lol or watever
SoxStar89 4 weeks ago
For carbs, I eat a lot of pasta and 1 muller light with it, is this ok? :P!
TheWhopperTinger 4 weeks ago
i hear a baby in the background at 1:57 after he says "self"
slash795 4 weeks ago
@slash795 SOU WHAT???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BelgradeWinner 4 weeks ago
@BelgradeWinner it gives me the wrong idea ...
slash795 4 weeks ago
HAHAHAHAHAH they look like ninja turtles.
BrodoFaggings 4 weeks ago
"naw, I aint at 7% body fat no more bitch" ahuahuahuahuhauha
yall are pretty cool man aint even gonna lie. yall keep up the videos and i'll keep watching...
zekeysmos1988 1 month ago
If you don't want to have a sex life, take steroids. Point Blank.
Bak3dB3an 1 month ago
@Bak3dB3an I thought people on it fuck like rabbits?
KurtSandford 1 month ago
@KurtSandford
Steroids inflate your testosterone so for a time yeh, then you'll get a severe case of limp dick and acordion dick for keeping your inner chemistry all flop sided. Then you'll get bitch tits and shrunk balls room all the estrogen you'll now be producing.
Bak3dB3an 4 weeks ago
2.15 HAHHAHA spat my oats out everywhere!
ProcyonAlpha 1 month ago
"love to learn what got gave you man" lolololol
enigma81581 1 month ago 18
no chance there 37
TheRoadEnd100 1 month ago
steroids are good !
14POLAND88 1 month ago
BULL SHIT!
dustagon 1 month ago 28
Are you two from the Alabama, Auburn area? A lot of shit you say is pronounced the same way Charles Barkley would say it.
1ASMA3 1 month ago
Tell him take sdn rouge 2 bottles of it efx test charge 2 bottles also watch him gain 7 pounds or more
pavy415 1 month ago
wow, my phone rang at the same time as ya'lls 6:20
Regimentgunner 1 month ago
phone interruption exactly at "fuck you wanna buy!"
MrHardCash 1 month ago
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mtxmaz 1 month ago
@Kaziua6 none,you would eventually die
1123359 1 month ago
Dude your 14, stay off the roids for now.
Brohemoth55 1 month ago
Im 43, 6´1 and weigh 275lbs no roids ,,, been lifting for over 20 years... started with a bw of 135lbs.. its dedication and diet...and genes
HeadscissorLuver 1 month ago
How much different will steroids do?i am 14yr's old. and i Tok from 14 to 19 in a month with dumbells.. what do you think it will take if i use steroids? please reply :)
kaziua6 1 month ago
@kaziua6 sounds like you have no idea how to work out, speak english and have no idea about steroids... MORON
yeegits 1 month ago
damn man 37 an almost done what the fuck im almost 54 if look at it like yall i should just lay down an die lol
daman1to1 1 month ago
you guys are a little scary at the beginning and towards the ending, whats up with that?
youngfreedom93 1 month ago
@azmanrugby what?theres nothing to believe in?its just a fact! all people are different,have different sized muscle bellies,different thickness of muscles facia,different amounts of testosterone,differnt amounts of receptors,it goes and on and fucking on mate,that comments dumb as fuck.two ppl working as hard as eachother will end up with different results at the end.work rate applys in life but not in bodybuilding.an ectomorphic male will not achive a body that an mesomorphic male will achieve
reeceyhiggs 1 month ago
After a cycle of steroids,it's much harder to add any muscle whatsoever. All you can really do is just maintain your weight and hope your estrogen levels don't backlash. The twins should really review what they put out on YouTube. I can smell hypocrites.
Backstabbinbasterd 1 month ago
Phone apocalypse
shukla714 1 month ago
6'2" and 214 lbs is actually kinda skinny. i'm 5'10", 245. i'm not exactly lean tho. but the dude just said he's a bodybuilder. what does that mean? does he compete, or is it just for his ego? cause if he wants to go pro, he's got a looot of catching up to do. his genes must not be for getting big. i wish i was 6'2".
secutorclaudius 1 month ago
@secutorclaudius 6'2 214 skinny? Ha you're fucking crazy. Im 6'1 180 and most people who aren't body builders think im a hulk. 200 is pretty big. And the fact is, the shorter you are, the less stretched out your muscles have to be, so with you being 5'10 245, that would make you around the equivilient of my brother, who is 215~ and hes massive as fuck. You might just have bad genetics.
Xelvielll 1 month ago
@Xelvielll "the less stretched out your muscles have to be" what does that mean? "You might just have bad genetics" i wasn't always this size. 13-15 yrs ago i was into muay thai, 170 lbs. but the point is, this guy wants to compete (go pro i assume?). those guys will make him like a toothpick.
secutorclaudius 1 month ago
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Testosterone injections will be superior alternative to steroids as they will not transform into estrogen(female hormone) later on after injection. But you can lift for 30 years and then reach your genetic potential twins. Its just that after 25s say for instance, then yeah your gains stall..but then at 40s after your muscle fibers matured then you can gain again.. =)
See for example Scooby1961 here on youtube..old huge natural dude, lifted 30 years!
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lma3ti125 1 month ago
sorry to disappoint, but i for one do not believe in genetics. its all about how much work you put into life
aznmanrugby 1 month ago
@aznmanrugby sorry to disappoint, but then you are a retard.
DickHead69able 1 month ago
@DickHead69able uh huh..your name is far more retarded
aznmanrugby 1 month ago
@aznmanrugby When you bring up his name then we know you lost the argument.
mrPineapplePower 1 month ago
@aznmanrugby you dont have to believe in something if its already a fact
yipdog 1 month ago
@aznmanrugby do get me wrong you need to work hard but genetics does play a big part
Th3MainMan 1 month ago
@aznmanrugby thats true but you cant say you dont believe in genetics because theres science behind it
SuccessDriven247 1 month ago
@aznmanrugby Don't believe in genetics? God damn, you're a fucking moron.
If you have bad genetics, I wouldn't say you will never have a nice body, but when it comes to bodybuilding, you can pretty much fucking forget it. Genetics are #1, right in front of diet.
215Dave215 1 month ago
I legit thot u guys were like 25 before u said u were 37
BeaverYear 1 month ago 68
@BeaverYear i did too!
momowowo16 1 month ago
@BeaverYear Cocoa butter is the one, fam. :D
omdway 1 month ago
@BeaverYear blacks never crack
franksters08 1 month ago
im 15 and have been lifting a year so when im 18 i wont be able to have anymore gains?!?!!?!
CDT565 1 month ago
@CDT565 Off course you will. they are over 36 for them it's different.
85Damix 1 month ago
lol @ intro
PopR1ne 1 month ago
Roids make you're balls shrink.Have fun with that bro's
erogonfolt 1 month ago
To answer the guy's question in the video steroids are safe given the right circumstances man, they're even practical in terms of medicinal potential. They become unsafe when taken in ridiculous amounts, but if one is well educated, steroids can provide a means to achieve goals that otherwise would be genetically impossible. Gains can also be permanent if someone is familiar with proper post-cycle therapy and a disciplined diet. Its all about research, but that's just my two cents.
PhuckinPumpedBro 1 month ago
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HEY MAN, *sniffs* WANNA BUILD SOME MUSCLE MAN? *sniffs again and pauses for 5 secs* YOU DO? GOOD MAN! YOUR AT THE RIGHT CHANNEL MAN.
Lol never gets old. hahaha you two are the funnies mothafuckas on youtube.
XxSiL3NTC4RIVIiN3xX 1 month ago
SHUT UP AND ANSWER THE PHONE BEFORE THEY SNAP YO SHIT UP!
beatzfromchicago 1 month ago
Thease guys are AWSOME
They do what ever the FUCK they want LOL
comehoot12345678 1 month ago
There are a lot of girls that don't even find that "big bodybuilder" look attractive. They would rather go for the prettyboy "Taylor Lautner" types, lol.
adu1991 1 month ago
lol BULLSHIT at 2.14 is gold!
wysiwygbandit 1 month ago
someone gives these guys a reality show..seriously..hahahahahaaa
phatz631 2 months ago
if you 37 how old your twin brother? haha but love you guys
rawtalent257 2 months ago
37 aint that old stop having a mildlife crisis before you get there lol
mma4l 2 months ago
Bodybuilders look unnatural and there is nothing attractive about that!!! am yet to come across a woman who thinks bodybuilders look great if anything they are repulsive!! But the twins body's are smoking hottt!!
0157jo 2 months ago
37? holy shit, pretty young looking for your age
healthy lifestyle keeps you alive kids
suparpowers 2 months ago 7
Steroids give side effects no matter what people just have to deal with that ! FACT
Amnez1aHD 2 months ago
That is freaking true a Woman will cheat on you with a Fat basterd dont matter how built you are!!! Im 6'0 185lbs. Lean and Natural...Woman Left me for a 5'3 275lbs. Freakin troll of a dude...LMAO
JosephRiddick 2 months ago
How funny would it be if they only yelled NOOOOO and ended right there.
darkmanf1989 2 months ago
I don't think one should take steroids unless it is a high priority in your life to be able to bench press 2x your bodyweight, deadlift 3x your bodyweight, or squart 2.5x your bodyweight.
Jehanzeb14 2 months ago
HEY MAN,, WANNA BUILD SOME MUSCLE MAN??
ficaso007 2 months ago
You're 37? Holy shit, you look like you're in your mid 20's.....in a good way!
VictorRechnageL 2 months ago
@VictorRechnageL i know right i thought they were like 28/29
suparpowers 2 months ago
i love your videos guys..keep it coming bro you guys really help me out at the gym
gudio1985 2 months ago
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Italkfitness 2 months ago
WHAT DOCTOR.
bigmuscleify 2 months ago
you guys are great.... keep making videos
kayan191 2 months ago
What I said below wasn't ment to sound bad I was just helping :-)
JupiterJelly1 2 months ago
Twins I hope you get this, I know someone at my gym who trains naturally, he's about 5 8" and 55 years old, he's trained since he was 18 and looks better than any steroid user I know, he has cut his routine down so his caterbolic rate doesn't kick in & diets and rests well, less is more is his attitude and he doesn't go really heavy, what I am saying is that you still have a long way to go if you keep changing your routine and shock those muscles, you genetic potential is more than you think :-)
JupiterJelly1 2 months ago
These twins are right-go natural, eat healthy, rest well and train right-who needs steroids as it's just a quick fix for how one feels & being excepted, as the twins say, dudes are comparing themselves to steroid users when really they will look better naturally, listen to these guys as they know what they are talking about, don't go for quick fixes, just educate yourselves, train hard, diet well and rest well and you will gain good muscle women will love because thats what it's really about :)
JupiterJelly1 2 months ago
persistent sum bitch keep ringing the phone and putting me off
XTIRP8 2 months ago
dont take steroids;
you take, you gain 16lbs of muscle... then you stop taking... and that muscle starts to disappear... then what, you start take again?
steven288 3 months ago 29
@steven288 thats a silly comment, if someone is taking a mass gainer / creatine / protein, and then stops. They wont see the gains as if they were taking them. They cant train as hard as long. Dont recover as fast, and wont build the muscle or lose the fat as they were before. So to say that about roids, isnt saying anything at all. Its like, if you run 5 miles everyday for a year. And then take 6 months off, you wont be at the same level as you were when you left.
Muaythai81 2 months ago
@steven288 Actually, you get permanent gains from steroids as you don't stop lifting.
BigGee614 2 months ago
@steven288 Has a lasting effect, which is why here once Athletes take roids, they are banned for life even after 5 years of stoppage because it changes the muscle for a VERY long time.
UKNMajor 2 months ago
@steven288 that's how to do steorids bro multiple cycle every year but steroids bring you to another stage and u can take hgh too and u keep the muscle with hgh
hpkiunzy 2 months ago
@steven288 not really. with a proper PCT and knowledge you can keep your gains.
partagiumx 2 months ago
@steven288 There is thing called HCG therapy steroid users go through, which allows their body to produce normal amount of testostrone quickly so our body can go back on track and not lose the gains from cutting off from Steroids...Please go do your research before making nonsense. Its always uneducated fucktards end up with bad things with steroids ;)
JCtherocks 2 months ago
@steven288 and you want to enjoy training, You get used to training with drugs, then you will not enjoy training without them.
gerryboy3699 1 month ago
@steven288 Thats oral steroids...
Toefl101 1 month ago
@steven288 starts to disappear? How so?
iamspid3rman 1 month ago
@steven288 No man, u get bitch tits, depression, and hindered testosterone production.
saionjik 1 month ago
@steven288 lol u dont gain 16lbs of muscle on any cycle lmao u maybe gain 5-10 pounds the rest is water weight so gain 20 pounds u lose 15-10 pounds of water not mucsle. but anyway sterioids arent the greatest to take but if taken properly its not gunna kill you anytime soon lol but if u wanna take it go ahead
john7990 1 month ago
@john7990 there are many types of steroids, if you stack 2 or 3 powerfully anabolic steroids at once you can get 15 pounds of muscle in one cycle
asdffdsafdsa123 1 month ago
@asdffdsafdsa123 you also lose 10y of life
85Damix 1 month ago
@85Damix eating vegetables causes u to lose 20 years of life. Since were both spouting unsubstantiated claims, why dont u do something useful and back your claim up with some evidence. There has never been a single study done linking the use of steroids with a shortened life span.
asdffdsafdsa123 1 month ago
@asdffdsafdsa123 There's many stuies. Most of them are done on animals and the lifespam was shortened by about 30% (25-45% depend on intensity and hormone equivalent) the 20 years is about 30% percent of human lifespan so it's not a random number. Pro hormones like "Andro" cause impotence in 90% of subjects. You should realise that people who sells supplements has no qualifications and were educated in public school or KFC. I have done 8 years full time Premed, I'm not MD or equivalent but....
85Damix 1 month ago
@85Damix impotence whilst they are on the prohormones, and were not talking about prohormones, were talking about steroids. once again, there have NOT been studies which have successfully linked steroid usage and lifespan in humans. It is a very well known fact that steroids causes men to stop producing sperm whilst they are on them, why would u even bring that up. If you can link a study which specifically correlates steroid usage and human lifespan i would like to read it.
asdffdsafdsa123 1 month ago
@asdffdsafdsa123 Prohormones and steroids are more less same. It's like a making difference betwen ephedrine and meta-anfetamine both are alcalic amins and do same things but the first one is legal but the other one isn't. The effect on animals (mammals) is same like on humans. The reason why there are no studies done on people (healthy) is (in Europe) it would be classed as attempt to murder or assisting suicide (many years in prison). But there are hundreds of biochem papers....
85Damix 1 month ago
@asdffdsafdsa123 part two: papers that prove my statement. Think, how good are those people who promotes this stuff good in biochemistry how do they understand Physiology?
DO you know why prormones cause impotence? It's a male hormone precursor... try to find it on google :)
Apart of Creatine are all supplements crap.
People who are on steroids for long time suffer. They will not tell you (to not look like retards). They live in pain, all of them.
85Damix 1 month ago
@85Damix to equate pro hormones to steroids is really ignorant. You clearly learned very little about steroids in your 8 years of premed. It looks as if you only studied prohormones at med school rather than steroids, is that why you keep going back to them? Everyone knows why steroids cause impotence, they shut down natural testosterone production so no sperm is produced.
asdffdsafdsa123 1 month ago
@asdffdsafdsa123 It's not ignorant at all. It's a precursor Imagine it as incomplete puzzle (of Androgenic steroid) which will be finished by endoplasmosis to full hormone. Again it's like get headshot by blue painted bullet instead of green painted. Technically they are two different things... but...
I'm trying to keep it simple. About the impotence it's little more complicated. We all start as a women for first couple of weeks, later if HY antigen is released. We start changing into men ....
85Damix 1 month ago
@85Damix you are retarded. i dont believe you have a medical degree. You are talking about gender determination and fetal development when im talking about steroids? you think you are smart, but you are actually really fucking stupid.
Prohormones have a low conversion rate to steroids, are bad for the liver, they have almost no anabolic effect whilst giving you bitch tits and are a total waste of time and money.
asdffdsafdsa123 1 month ago
@asdffdsafdsa123 I just tried to explain something very complicated in one paragraph.It may look quite confusing. Prohormones leaving particles which triggers (random) secondary procedures in your body. about he prenatal ... I've just tried to explain that your body keep "blueprints" also for women parts for example after andro there can be found in your body SP-A protein (affects pregnancy length) also cause bone epyphise . Anabolic effect depends on purity and delivery method
85Damix 1 month ago
@85Damix yes its common knowledge there are receptors for the female hormone in male tissue, thats why the steroids are called ANDROGENIC you fucking moron, are u rly that stupid? why are u trying to explain something which i clearly already understand?
asdffdsafdsa123 1 month ago
@asdffdsafdsa123 Random triggering ERalpha/Beta by estrogen spikes leads to browning of white AT tissue (CAB/WAT) which leads brain stem degeneration and early death.
Can be prevented by using tamoxifenis but there is a link to a kidney cancer in combinations with "kidney boosters" cause too high ACE with kills kidney faster than cancer especially in combination with low grade Creatine
85Damix 1 month ago
@85Damix wow u really did ur research lol, thanks for info
asdffdsafdsa123 1 month ago
@asdffdsafdsa123 and important is your blood PH (acidity) which effects NR3C4 <-- flat androgen receptors sensitivity. It's really bad stuff, low purity stuff conatins really shitty stuff... Theres about 30000 different proteins which can be prodeced by your body, random triggering is really bad stuff. You can't see the consequences. You have multiple outputs from the ADR reaction.
85Damix 1 month ago
@85Damix you are wrong. Androgenic steroids cause impotence because they stop the body from producing testosterone, NOT because of the fact that they get converted into estrogen.
asdffdsafdsa123 1 month ago
@asdffdsafdsa123 DO you have any clue why the production of Testosterone (the one by cholesterol steroidogenesis) stops? Androgenic steroids does not change into estrogen - they leads to estrogen spikes which is a good Altzhaimer booster :)
85Damix 1 month ago
@85Damix negetive feedback due to the very high levels of synthetic testosterone in the body. Androgenic steroids aromatize and get converted into estrogen.
asdffdsafdsa123 1 month ago
@asdffdsafdsa123 part two: thats why you've got nipples :) Disbalance between testosterone and estrogen leads to more less random transformations in your body. You've start changing into women and back in same time. Random control proteins are created which orders others stuff. Brain stem panicking and then next (random) dose come in making bigger chaos in your biochem. Various subsystems becoming miss configured making more errors. Oxygen distribution isn't accurate any more...
85Damix 1 month ago
@85Damix no gives a shit about yur 8 years of premed, if you said you had studied steroids for 8 years then i might care. why the fuck are u talking about people who sell supplements? were not even talking about supplements, were talking about steroids. If you are trying to say most of the supplements out there are a useless waste of money then i agree with you.
asdffdsafdsa123 1 month ago
@asdffdsafdsa123 I have used word supplements because I'm not sure about the proper name for those people.I have started visiting Gym from 1.1.2012. It's hard but I will not give up :) Week ago I was sitting on a banch and resting ...I was really tired and some guy (really big one) and offered me for "reasonable price" and "safe" way how to get big faster. I have refused so he went to two (maybe 16yo boys) who started with me ...and I think they brought that stuff. They are like drug dealers.
85Damix 1 month ago
@asdffdsafdsa123 English isn't my native language.
85Damix 1 month ago
@asdffdsafdsa123 thats actually true i was just thinkin of one steroid, no test no stacking but yeah your right man
john7990 1 month ago
@steven288 you keep alot of that mass in yur first few cycles as long as you can maintain that muscle naturally
asdffdsafdsa123 1 month ago