Arizona School Choice Fight Goes to U.S. Supreme Court

[mpc91]

Wouldn't it be something if the American Civil Liberties Union actually worked for the Civil Rights of Americans?

Instead, they work to limit the freedoms of Americans while pushing their social agenda and padding the pockets of lawyers,

[ScientologyStoners]

Most important decision since Brown v. Board

[kfrb1]

9th circuit court of appeals is always the thorn in the side of all sanity

[TheSpacecadet78]

The really funny thing about these programs is that if the govt would end public education altogether then everyone would have "tax credits" (i.e. would be allowed to keep more of their money instead of having it stolen by the govt) that could be used to either pay for private school and/or help fund scholarships for those kids who can't. Then all children could have a good education instead of attending a govt brainwashing camp. It's so simple.

[yojimbo81]

ACLU is against choice. 

[braffle]

The Democrats in Oh tried to stop charter schools but they failed. They were backed by politicians that are backed by the teacher's union!

[rooftopeagle]

The ACLJ is full of it now! The constitution is what gives the states the right to handle this program and that same constitution is what keeps the federal government out...how can lawyers be so ignorant about the law of the land? How can they challenge the constitutionality of a program that is run by a state when the constitution is what limits the feds?

[HeyTrud]

Why did the Obama parents DENY 25 poor kids scholarships to their kids school? The Obama's don't want their girls around POOR kids on scholarships in a private school. It's simple. Yea..go vote Democratic that will work for poor black kids everywhere, especially in Washington DC. Black folks have to wake up and STOP voting for DEM'S altogether.

[singlaprety12]

This is a good law expect teh videoo is racist for only showing one race

[residentfan2]

It sounds like a great program on the surface, but I'd like to hear all arguments about this.

[ashleyjohnston]

I don't understand the motivation for fighting such a program, or the legal argument to make to strike it down. That would have been helpful.

[Trenaway]

Notice the race in these schools. Mostly black and liberals like the aclu can not have this. Blacks getting a good education is not tolerable in the mind of a liberal. If you disagree with this, your a liberal and a racist bastard. I ask you to leave my country, so black people can get a good education!

[croissantanyone]

The liberals cancelled the voucher program in DC and now are trying to cancel this.  When will people wake up and realized that progressive liberals are a threat to their liberty and this country.

[residentfan2]

@croissantanyone this doesn't sound like a voucher program, but a tax credited scholarship program. But, as I said before, this video doesn't show all arguments. So we're not left with all the information.

[croissantanyone]

@residentfan2 You are correct.  My comparison is based on the fact that both programs allow parents greater opportunity in choosing how their kids are educated . The Union Schools don't want that since that would destroy their monopoly on education.

[akesling]

How this increases funding for "public" education is beyond me, and would have to be shown. My tax dollars should be given to public schools NOT religious schools I have no affiliation with.

[blurbum9]

@akesling

I don't know where you live but i'm near Detroit where the graduation rate is around 24.9%. The US needs this, our schools are getting really bad and any one looking at the statistics of how school of choice, in various forms, preforms knows this is the kind of improvement we need.

I hear you on the religious concerns but who says they have to be religious schools? Make your own or i'm sure someone will. Main point being is it gives more freedom to people to choice where to learn.

[memachelle]

questions::: what about the students left in the district? is the tax credit in any way lessening $ from district budgets?

[blogegog]

You guys can relax. I'm part of the secret cabal that controls the SC justices. I told them to go ahead and allow the program to continue.

You're welcome.

[ZinkDude]

maybe that family didnt need to have 5 children

[blurbum9]

@ZinkDude

maybe.. and maybe you shouldn't eat so much or maybe someone should be telling you what to eat to make SURE you eat the RIGHT things.

For a black family in a bad area it looks like they did pretty damn well for themselves but i would hazard to guess that if they had gone to local public schools they wouldn't have turned out the same.

I don't know where you live but i'm near Detroit where the graduation rate is around 24.9%. The US needs this, its school of choice not of religion.

[croissantanyone]

@ZinkDude Maybe you shouldn't hate children so much. Childrean are a gift. You might not be so unhappy if you did not think children were things.

[ZinkDude]

@croissantanyone HI - I dont hate children. I have 2 kids of my own. I just think that people should not have children unless they have some reasonable plan to care for them. of course, it is there right to ahve as many kids as they like..

[ZinkDude]

@croissantanyone HI - I dont hate children. I have 2 kids of my own. I just think that people should not have children unless they have some reasonable plan to care for them. of course, it is there right to have as many kids as they like..

[Jerricho68]

The ninth circus strikes again.

[RichardDuryea]

Is it possible to attack the ACLU for being unconstitutional?

[vllmer]

one NEA to rule them all.

[mrbill66]

If it was an Islamic academy the ACLU would be all in favor of it and have the backing of every Leftist in the country.

[residentfan2]

@mrbill66 why are you using a bigoted argument to make a point?

[Slipknotyk06]

This is an important precedent. I am very interested to see how this goes. This is simply about first Amendment freedom of Religion. This is vastly important! I think that the ACLU is on the side of Teachers Unions that see this program as a threat.

[singlaprety12]

why is there no one white, obously theres poor white kids too

[bosspup]

@singlaprety12  Why does it matter? If IJ wins it will help children of all races and ethnicities.

[mindapi]

@singlaprety12 You're looking at one school in one area of AZ, there are poor white kids but probably not in this community. Why that even matters, I'm not sure.

[crammitol12]

mindapi and singlaprety12, there are poor kids of many stripes in the greater phoenix area. This vid is about families, this one as example, that chose to take their tax credits to a non public, usually religious school rather than the one their kids would have been attending in their own area. I imagine, the ACLU takes exception to this as a violation of the separation of Church and State. I see it as parents trying to improve the lot of their children's lives. This will be a crucial decision!

[mindapi]

@crammitol12 This shouldn't be addressed to me, I watched the video and understand the issue. I don't think I said anything contradictory.

[crammitol12]

@mindapi , I see. My bad for that. BTW, if you're not familiar with any of the schools in Phoenix, Brophy Prep is an all boys,private, Jesuit Catholic school widely regarded as producing articulate, university bound youths. I'd say the parents made a good choice for their kids in this case. It sucks that any group that can't see this is about the betterment of the individual is short sighted to say the least. Especially a group like the ACLU that professes to protect the rights of the individual

[Toadessa25]

@singlaprety12 - I think it was just bad editing.

[residentfan2]

@singlaprety12 possibly to strengthen this organizations argument. However, if this is helping the black community, I think that's a good thing. But the video leaves a lot of argumentative holes in it that makes me want to hear all sides of this issue.

[rdhayes06]

I would be interested in seeing the ACLU's brief.

[rightwinginTX]

ACLU wastes the air they breathe

[smithcobb]

Convincing arguments and people.