Crimson Echoes Playthrough Part 090

[vous1tube]

You guys did a great job bridging Chrono Trigger to Chrono Cross. Sorry that the C&D came about, this was truly a great game. I don't even think Square-Enix could've come up with something this epic.

[MeingroessterFan]

I really wonder, does Squenix even have the RIGHT to cancel it? I mean, it's pretty clear there isn't any particular REASON other than this game is TO GOOD to be left alive. I suppose all copyright are by Square Enix, so it would be THEIR game, kind of. I don't know about this kind of things, but if fangames get forbidden, FanFiction, FanArt and EVERYTHING would have to be forbidden. Oh, I can just see the army standing before Squenix's doors if that would happen xD

[bobisadrummer]

You guys need to stop messing around and release the hack. Just drop your "copyright" of it and it's all good. Even if that fake looking C&D letter you received is real, their only problem with your hack was that you're claiming a copyright. Don't copyright it and everything's good.

[MeingroessterFan]

@bobisadrummer You can already download it, just google it. And as far as I know, they didn't claim any copyright.

[fleek164]

AWESOME! I just started playing this...have a nerd boner for sure. It would've been great with human Glenn and I wish Crono wouldn't talk or Frog had his accent, but still this is so AWESOME! So glad that you guys are so passionate about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I remember starting to write a script as a child to send to Nintendo power...I wrote 1 paragraph.

[vidgwatcher]

That must suck having done so much effort into something like this, only to have it all thrown away.

So SQUARE doesn't want us to mod. old nostalgic games while they continue to make bad ones of today? Theres something really wrong here.

[jookimon]

If you guys made a documentary talking about the planning, the process, the C&D letter etc. etc., I would pay money for it. This entire project was pure genius.

[CS2magus9000]

How many chapters are in Crimson Echoes?

[CS2magus9000]

Hey CEMemorial how do i download the crimson echoes rom to Snes9x?

[SATHANAS12]

you do now that you could still release this but name it Chrono Break they would never know the difference and do it secretly

[Riven740]

i think what u forgot an extra ending...

how the things would be if Zeal would be resurrected by the king. and what happened to the world with that. i hope if anyone can do a mini hack to show that.

[metalbass26]

Having just completed this game today, I have to say I am truly amazed with the overall work put forth in this project. I haven't played an RPG this well done in a very long time, especially since the 'new age' RPG are contextually watered down so much or MMORPG's are being made which I refuse to play. This is what a sequel to CT should have looked like from the beginning. 9/10 if this was made by Squeenix, 100/10 for a fan made project. Exceptional!!!

[PurpleFurs3]

<3 <3 <3 :-( <3

[J0shy1986]

Wikipedia:  Fangames

...Another group of fans created a sequel via a ROM hack of Chrono Trigger called Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes; developed from 2004–2009; although feature-length and virtually finished, it also was terminated through a cease & desist letter days before its May 2009 release. The letter also banned the dissemination of existing Chrono Trigger ROM hacks and documentation.

[J0shy1986]

After the cease and desist was issued, an incomplete version of the game was leaked in May 2009, though due to the early state of the game, playability was limited.[112] This was followed by a more complete rom leak in January 2011, which allowed the game to be played from beginning to end

Sad sad day for them, looks great and I guess someone got ahold of it somehow and finished it, nice

[Anemite]

so this fangame was finished or not??

it could be played and give a true connection with chrono cross?

[Jyagos1]

@ZeldaDD He gets over the Silent Protagonist Syndrome and we hate him for it. That thing is worse than Swine Flu! :p

[lechaflan]

Hey so I happened to find a ROM of this somewhere. I completed the game a few days ago (very VERY amazing work. The writing was excellent and should very well be canon) and after watching this vid, I'm confused as to why I never saw Sorin's sprite the way it's depicted here. I never have ran into the Terra Tower and flying reptite car sprites as well. The date associated with the ROM I had was from earlier this month so I figured it had to be the final release. Am I playing an old version?

[CEMemorial]

@lechaflan Alot of the graphics were mock ups that didn't make it in the game before C&D :( Inserting sprites into the game can be very hard cause you have to find an unused sprite to replace and sometimes need to edit animations to make it work. It's doable but unfortunately we never had time. Glad you enjoyed the game, and that someone finished (last boss difficulty can be quite challenging). --JP

[MrGriever182]

just tell me one thing, why Crono speaks like the other characters in this game, i mean with dialogue boxes unlike the original game? for me this flaw killed the game, sorry.

[FaustWolf]

@MrGriever182 I think the reason behind the decision was that CE was meant to have no single "main" character. Compare to Terra in Final Fantasy VI, for example.

Yeah, there's been a lot of push-back on Crono speaking. I love it personally; never really been into silent protagonists.

[ZeldaDD]

@FaustWolf Yeah, I'm honestly not sure why so many people have such an issue with Chrono speaking. I guess it's simply because he didn't in Chrono Trigger, but that's not a very good reason (in fact, the silent protagonist isn't really used very often these days as compared to back then).

[CEMemorial]

@MrGriever182 He's not the main character. CT never says he's a mute, in fact he speaks in an ending. He didn't speak cause that was a technique employed by RPGs back then to make it feel like you were the protagonist. In CE we are actually proud that there really isn't a main character. People respond with different people every time. Personally I'd pick Marle, others say Magus , some say Glenn. Crono really plays a pretty minor role in this game.

[Someonewholovesmusi1]

@MrGriever182 in chrono cross he explains a large plot event to you... and that is an official chrono trigger series (same world, story lines cross) game

[xxXTRWLxxX]

Dude this shit looks epic omg why isnt this being contiued or on the working wtf this is the sequeal CT needed not that shitty CC wtf wtf if only i could play this

[kazee05]

I know ts bad to rip off someone elses idea or game.

But I believe facebook will pay you if you create your own version of game using your own pixels.

Kinda post it as "Online Game" where we, the Chrono Trigger fans can meet face to face using our character of our choice!!

I know this is a dumb suggestion but it is just worth a try.

After all, other games are ripping each other using similar ideas with completely different pixels n story

*cough Ragnarok *cough online.!!

and other serveral

[DZLE13]

I'm curious what all wasn't finished?

[umai1313]

Thanks for everything to all thoses who worked for this.

Really sad that it ended that way but anyway, thanks A LOT !

[Timentio6]

What happened to Coyota?

[DarkXenAlpha]

This is amazing. Your guys' dedication is inspirational...really...it really is. I love Chrono Trigger, and tho the C&D was unfortunate, this was a wonderful dream. The dream of Zeal is alive. I will never forget this quote for the rest of my life now. I take this so seriously because during these summer months I have questioned whether or not I want to be a part of the game industry which has been my dream, but I know now that I absolutely want to be. My dream of Zeal IS alive. Thank you guys.

[Elach86]

Just finished all the videos... Awesome job guys!!

Thx a lot, always wanted some new CT stuff... Damn you SE!! =(

[ShiroLongTails]

A question, did Schala ever get a portrait since she was supposed to be playable?

Truly amazing game, CE team... It's the epitome of beauty.

[XxSTACKxX]

@ShiroLongTails no she didn't

[XxSTACKxX]

is it possible to put glenn in the game? if so how?

cause i'd like to try and put him in

[commander979]

What I would out on Crimson Echoes' Grave stone:

Let us lay the dream of Zeal to rest for one final time...

Here lies Chrono Triggger: Crimson Echoes, may it's memory live on, and be honnored.

Rest In Pease.

(Date of beggining of development-Date of end of develoment)

*I would have put ACTUAL dates at the end, but I don't know them so...*

[Fly2theSora]

this game is the true definiation of a fanbase, and i havent even played chrono games yet xD some parts of europe doesnt hav all the great stuffs ya know ;(

[SATHANAS12]

finish the game and release it under a different name that way they don't know that it is the same game and if they do you can say to them fuck you you haven't released a sequel to chrono cross and we want something an this was it. and tell them look at valve they succes of what they did because of the modding community

[ProfessM]

I've said it before and I well keep saying this. This the squeal CT needed not Cross. The game is beautiful and has a sad ending both in game and in real life. But a company has the rights to do what they did. Not always fair but sometimes to keep things from getting out of control they have to harm there fans. We can all learn from this CE team though. Keep our dreams alive is a great message. So I well and I hope the team reads this comment one day and learn that they inspired at least one guy

[RavienCoromana]

I have to ask the CE team though - I know most collaboration was online, but for the main devs, did any of you know each other irl? This seems to have much more coordination than many fan made products.

[CEMemorial]

@RavienCoromana

Agent 12 was a spectacular project manager in addition to being the project's programmer. To my knowledge the project's history took place entirely online, the team widely scattered in terms of geography. It was truly an inspiring effort.

--FW

[jethjay]

I have a copy of Chrono trigger - crimson echoes if you want a copy pm me

[SATHANAS12]

@jethjay

please could you give me it

and is it the 98% complete thing

[kyleh93710]

I sent Square Enix support a 3,300 character email about how they sucked a fat cock and CT was better than FF and why FF can have fan made games but CT can't. I've never been so vulgar in an email in my life. IT WAS AWESOME lol I'm waiting for a response I wish I could show you guys what I wrote you would laugh so hard

[Happytreefriendsfan3]

@kyleh93710

can you pls show me dude,on personal message?

if not,can you give me square enix email so i can "nicely" tell them what i think >:(

[MostWantedPro1]

@Happytreefriendsfan3 it wasnt square enix alone...some ass hole on ign emailed them and they sent the email! his username is hellspawns

[Happytreefriendsfan3]

@MostWantedPro1 -reloads gun- tell me his username.

[MostWantedPro1]

@Happytreefriendsfan3 hellspawns and he is on ign...the proof is right here that hes the guy! ht tp: //boards.i gn.c om/nintendo_ds_l obby/b7594/179058758/p1/

[bicfarmer]

couldn't have you kept this in the back shelf of your computer, and wait summat years for the copyright to expire? (Or square going bankrupt which ever comes first)

[Jyagos1]

Guys and girls, it's been explained on the Chrono Compendium forums. This is a hobby, not their life's work. They can't release this and the time it takes for them to clear their names in court would be better served keeping their lives intact but destroying their work. It's sad, it's unfortunate and I would love to have played such an awesome game. But we can seriously only hope that they choose to make another game than dwell on this one.

[CEMemorial]

Well said!

--FW

[AltoxKun]

really, a huge work, I think this is the best fan made game made. Sad this never be released.

[NeoTifasRevenge]

Honestly, I think that you guys should keep and finish the project, and release it underground on bit torrent networks. S-E will have no way to stop it from spreading around the internet in an instant, especially if you post a torrent on a popular site. It'll be easy to seed cause the IPS patch file size is so small too.

[obieonepc]

Square Enix & Infinity Ward can both officially eat a bowl of shit.

Thank You.... For Ruining All My Dreams Of Video Game Sequels.

[powerfulally]

It did get canned, although there is a leaked alpha version. This playthrough was made between the Alpha version and the SqEnix S&D. Shame they didn't see the potential of a good profit off this. I'm sure there are many people who would've payed good money for this. +30 hours of gameplay? Hell yeah. Shame, real shame

[Supercreck]

It's not about the money for these guys really, they had a dream and they put it together, it's just sad that unlike bongie and microsoft who work with gamers, they wanna be assholes and not embrace the community, eventually they will go outta business and these projects, in our old age, will be allowed to be finished. Or, chrono will come from the past to save us all, which ever happens first.

[sorwdofcho]

I through this got caned because of square threatinging to sue.

[gumbal1]

Thank you for putting so much effort into this.

[tboctavan]

Well, I just finished playing the leaked alpha version (pre-dating the c&d I believe), and I have to say that it was a very well put together game. Grammar was sketchy here and there (esp. towards the end), but it was, of course, an alpha, and I've come to expect that in Square games anyway. I obviously needed to watch a few of the to find differences, and 'cause it was always clear what to do, but it was fun. And... SHIT WAS HARD! I NEVER died in an RPG as much as I did here. Great game

[raemyshu]

My everlasting props to everyone who was a part of this. I enjoyed the heck out of watching this playthrough. Crimson Echoes is weird and epic and crazy and inspiring and--just amazing, really, even with all the incomplete bits and imperfections. Best fan-project I've ever seen. I have to admire all the thought and hard work poured into it.

[princetahnok]

The entire project was amazing. You should be proud of yourselves for having the skill to create something like this. I have no doubts that you will all be able to up to your dreams.

[TheSilentCircus11]

Awesome awesome job guys. I hope Square Enix will finally realize the high demand for a new entry in the Chrono series.

Once again it's unfortunate those pricks shut down your project, but thank you so much for posting the entire playthrough! I don't mind not playing the game, so long as I got to witness it.

Btw the commentary was awesome haha. Take care guys.

[gimpyco]

*Starts a slow clap standing ovation* THAT Was exactaly what I expectend and wanted in a sequal to CT... And SQUEENIX Sucks all the more for not cultivating it. C&D is an AS***LE way of saying "don't out show us." I really really want this game!

[TylerNessss]

i cant begin to explain what chrono trigger ment to me.. i cant begin to explain how much i respect you guys for creating such a wonderful thing.. i cant begin to imagine why square is pumping tens of millions of dollars in crappy projects instead of the their single greatest game ever, and THE single greatest game ever........ its a total shame

[RadoxRedux]

My compliments to everyone who made this. S-E could do with listening to the messages of their own games. Here's hoping somebody uses these videos and finishes the alpha rom so we can play the thing, as was intended.

[thelittlecake2]

Awesome project, guys! The dialogue, the maps, the minigames..just everything about this game was AWESOME. I really wish SE didn't give you the C&D stamp..

What's been bugging me for a while is Noah (Ayla/Kino's son). In CC wasn't Leah the child of A/K? Correct me if I'm wrong..it's been a while since I actually played CC. I know Noah didn't play a huge part in this game.

Either way. Thank you guys for the videos. This was amazing to watch!

[CEMemorial]

I could be wrong on this, but if I remember correctly, the suggestion in Chrono Cross is that Leah is actually Ayla's mother, so it's the other way around. The lineage would go Leah>Ayla>Noah in that case from CE's perspective.

--FW

[DarkfireNecros]

this is by far, THE best fan-made game of all time. You guys did such an amazing job giving us a great sequel to the best game of all time. The story is perfection at its best. Contributing more to the story of CT, giving the characters closure and giving way towards CC. So much dedication went into this project and it shows all the great effort your team put into it. It sucks that SE shut you guys down. You guys one hell of a job to produce a true sequel to CT. My late congrats to you guys.

[MKnance]

Is this still going on secretly is crimson echoes still in production?

[Ruesen]

If that were true and they said yes... it wouldn't be a secret, would it?

[Babb26]

(cont'd)

You thought th@ aftr Square and Enix Formed, you would have several epic RPG's flooding the market. Hell they could have agreed to bring CT's rival SNES epic "Terranigma" to the United States on GBA or DS. Instead, they MILK THE SH!T OUT OF THE NAME FINAL FANTASY and repeatedly release games for the DS. Even Tri-Ace under SE (of Star Ocean) Have lost their magic of epic RPG's. IMO, CT for DS wasn't euff for da fans. Dey should've bought dis project then ported it to DS. C&D? DUMB MOVE!

[Babb26]

I haven't watched more than 1 trailer and gameplay video of this hack, let alone play the Original C T. But from reading comments and watching dis vid, I can feel the soul driven power that pushed these guys 2 create Crimson Echoes. I always knew true, passionate fans of games always have it in dem 2 do it bettr dan da devs themselves once dey understand everything fully w/o losing the magic behind it all. The guys @ Square-Enix r not wh@ dey used 2 be NEmore, forget dem. This proj. was PLATINUM

[Shuriza]

I don't agree with every single plot point in the game, and find it kind of funny that it includes the quote "When a citizen of Zeal is faced with trying something majestic or playing it safe, we choose to try" when the developers decided to play it safe and not release the game when C&D'd.

Despite that, I do respect the considerable amount of work put into making this game and the wishes of the developers. It's been quite a trip, guys.

[JazzmanPritch]

I am really, really impressed with what you guys managed to do here. LoZ: Parallel worlds blew my mind when I saw it, and I thought that that was the best any fan-made project could get. But this is so much more than they ever achieved. This is as good as any professionally made game I've ever seen. My hat is off to you guys, you really made something impressive here. It's a real shame that square didn't see it that way.

[IYellalot]

I heard there was an early alpha being distributed.

If that's true, I think that it actually might be possible for someone else to finish the game based on the alpha and your videos. If it was kept secret and released anonymously only after being 100% completed, it just might be possible for this game to see the light of day!

[KLNDR]

That's a crap-ton of Glenn sprites you got there. I see some similar to Crono and Ayla's Falcon Hit, Crono's Luminaire, and of course mimicked Frog moves. Awesomeness all around. :D

[vokuro88]

and that is why i hate nintendo.

[Axioanarchist]

Nintendo didn't do jack, Square Enix killed the project.

[Arkemn]

I watched every video and it is truly a shame this was C&D'd There is one way to make this a reality and copy write it. It's called Parody. Parody laws state that if this is not of the original nature and is making fun of it you can do a parody. The law protects this right. Take this if you turned every sprite int he original Chrono Trigger game turned them into hamster lookalikes. Changed the dialog in the game 30% or more. it's parody and it's COPYWRITE able.

[Arkemn]

Anyone can try to argue with me on this but it is 100% real. How do you think movies like scarymovie are made. for that matter you could call it homo trigger and make all the in love chars counter parts guy's/, change Marle's name to Gary or some generic name. give it guy's sprite. Fan made depictions cannot be made money from yet parody is a marking franchise. I love the Chrono Trigger game and CC for that matter but in my opinion if they wanna be dicks then KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!

[Majutsukou]

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT.

This amazing project fell to an empty threat. How could you...

[XH1927]

I used to scrawl THE WORLD IS SQUARE on chalkboards in school as a kid because I thought Squaresoft was so awesome.

I will never, ever, buy one of their products again because of this. Lawyer that one away, Squeenix.

[Greylan]

Really don't get why this was C&D'ed considering how many FF Fangames and romhacks are out there. And they really should've looked into the project before spazzing out. I'm sure they could've just bought you guys out and applied the CE story to an official NDS or PSP version.

[Terralventhe]

I'll tell you guys the same thing I told a friend of mine: After watching the entire playthrough of your game, I can honestly say that I didn't think I was watching someone play a fan-made game. It felt authentic, like a real sequel had been created, with a functioning plot, characters and a driving story that made you keep watching to see how it was going to end. Even at 98%, you guys managed to do, for free, what Enix couldn't do with all the support it had at their disposal. My hat off to ya.

[CAlex46]

personally when ever i see stuff like this i go WHY IN THE HELL ISN'T THESE(offical companys) PEOPLE ASKING TO HIRE YOU GUYS TO HELP MAKE GAMES THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO PLAY! seriously i respect the idea of copyright laws but the vast majority of these C&Ded projects state from the outset THEY ARE NOT INTENDING TO HARM THE FRANCHISE HOLDERS ARE FANWORKS THAT PAY TRIBUTE TO THE ORIGNALS AND NEVER SEEK TO SUPPLANT THEM

[Kingpinz0r]

too bad things like sorins sprite didn't make it in time/at all. he looked right bad-ass

also. it makes a lot of sense to me as to why one of the ladies in glenn's time at some point in this game said "glenn is such a handsome man"

[Kingpinz0r]

i mean to say, it makes sense now, because at the time i was thinking "lady-dude, you do know that glenn's a frog?"

but i'm wondering, was that glenn sprite an unused sprite from the original game? if not, you guys did a fantastic job, along with the entire game. i loved it from start to finish, you guys should be proud of what you've contributed to the chrono world!

[CEMemorial]

The sprite was based on a few walking frames that existed for Human Glenn in Chrono Trigger. justin3009 and TheOutlaw started the sheet, and then Chrono'99 finished up what appeared to be the majority of the sheet singlehandedly. Pretty awesome work.

--FW

[agush22]

that human glenn is awesome

[Toinye]

KING zeal? That's AWESOME. Magus' dad...wow...damn wish i could play this still...

[makeanewchronoplz]

Well i must say SE is being complete asswipes about this you put all this time and effort into it. Hell I think their pissed off cause you made a better game than the first one lol. They really do need to get off of final fantasys nuts for a little bit and make another chrono I actually enjoyed the chrono games more than any FF and I am an avid final fantasy fan I play 11 and have played all but I mean damn they should of just bought this game from you did the tweaks and got over it.

[chashek]

all these vids and seeing what was waiting in that final 2% really shows how epic this would have been...

a~rgh, squaresoft, why, WHY~~~? T-T

[Arc13]

I could cry.

And I have.

I swear, what is SE thinking? A game that everyone wants more than their precious FF13 and they turn it down? WTF? Make a game out of this, take all the money noneof the fans would mind at all if they got a chance to play this! Every advantage can come from allowing this! Chrono is their most profitable franchise. It just doesn't make as much cause they don't work with it as much. Maybe if they did more with it they'd see Chrono > Final Fantasy.

[FaustWolf]

Here, here!

[DarkXen]

This is amazing. Your guys' dedication is inspiriational...really...it really is. I love Chrono Trigger, and tho the C&D was unfortunate, this was a wonderful dream. The dream of Zeal is alive. I will never forget this quote for the rest of my life now. I take this so seriously because during these summer months I have questioned whether or not I want to be a part of the game industry which has been my dream, but I know now that I absolutely want to be. My dream of Zeal IS alive. Thank you guys.

[FaustWolf]

Exactly, and that's what I don't get. The team never filed any paperwork of the kind or even made an unofficial proclamation of ownership (that would have been fan project suicide). Either there's some technicality in copyright law that fan projects can trip accidentally or Square Enix was bizarrely mistaken in making such a claim.

[NeoFusionProductions]

Why not try to fight it?

I honestly think that as smart as some of the people on the compendium are, I really think that they could read up on it and represent themselves.

[Ruesen]

No offense is meant to you when i say this, but it's easy to say what they should do since you're not in their shoes.

However, this can set a precedent to other fangame-makers: maintain privacy. Don't advertise your game until it is complete. Don't make a website for it or representing yourselves. Can't request a c & d when there isn't a target. Of course, if one of the staff reveals the others, it might get hairy but I believe there are loopholes around that as well.

[FaustWolf]

A previous mod called "Prophet's Guile" got along just fine with this kind of treatment, though it was smaller scale than Crimson Echoes. Still, same basic practice of distribution and same "violations" if one could call them that. Why Square Enix chose CE to cease and desist is a mystery...we say that because we don't want to give Alienat0r any credit for denouncing the project. There's an explanation in the Compendium news archives, May 27 if you're interested in that situation.

[FaustWolf]

Nah, no offense taken or anything. The team's explored its legal options (actually making contact with lawyers specializing in IP) and were advised that the chances of this going to court were relatively high --not 100% certainty, but higher than they were willing to risk, both for the sake of legal fees and the interruption to their lives.

The alternative option -- a complete reconversion with non-Chrono content -- likewise is moot at this point, since the team's unable to devote more time.

[GeoRoAdmin]

what could they do? your not being intentionally dense are you? lol if they were to continue working on it, even if they changed the name and every character name i the game and hundreds of scripts of dialog and item names and such, they could still sue them because its a "rom hack". sure they havent sue anyone over a rom hack yet but they could if they wanted to.

anyway, $250,000 in fines 5 years in federal prison without cost of laywers. thats what they can do.

[FaustWolf]

As someone with full access to the project during its late stage development and post production, I can say with all certainty that here was never any copyright purposely claimed on Crimson Echoes -- Video 1 even shows that the CE team disavowed ownership over anything Chrono related and reiterated that it was Square Enix's property.

[GeoRoAdmin]

I loved that first song you used, it was perfect. the opening to it had a sad ballad feel to it, it just felt right, seeing as how the game was killed.

have not watched all of the vids yet.

some people got the leaked alpha, then we also have these videos of the game.

While not as good as the game itself, they are epic on their own.

regardless, I am pretty sure you guys are gonna be remembered for a very long time in CT fandom as heros.

Glen = crazy amount of sprites Lol.

[FaustWolf]

There was never any statement of copyright from the CE team -- there's nothing to remove. That's one of the mysteries underlying this case. Was Square Enix misunderstanding based on information claimed in the Alienat0r denunciation email, or is there some technicality that automatically incurred copyright? On what grounds was Square Enix making this claim?

[FaustWolf]

In what way did the CE team copyright this?

[AnonBuffalo]

I would really love the last pic there in a high res to use as a background. It looks really great.

[CEMemorial]

That can be arranged.

--FW

[MasterC77]

i would like dat too

[zavlin]

is it just me? or did this game have no balance work done from start to finish. Characters always had 999 hps and huge stats and enemies were designed for this? Clearly they created a cool thing with some cool ideas, but the amount of time it wouldv taken to make this playable in terms of balance/system wouldv been alot more than 2% might lead one to believe.

[lolohta]

that happened cause its a new game+, just like in CT, they finished the game and started a new one with the same stats.

[lolohta]

that happened cause thay played a new game+, just like in CT, when you finish the game you can start a new one with the same stats your characters had at the end of the firt game

[gunblademaster]

No the playthrough was done in new game+ therefore the characters were very powerful and normally the monsters are much harder on a regular game as they said

[MasterC77]

are u, like really dumb? can u read? RAWR, read the annotations at the start idiot, OMG u fail...its a New Game + if uve never played CT dont watch this

[zavlin]

many fights werent push overs even in the early game, for a "high level" party, they were still ripping the party apart and taking many attacks to kill. This means the monsters themselves werent balanced for low levels..., you cant say just because its a new game+ the monsters wouldv been harder too. Actually watch those common battles and tell me that low level characters couldv done thousands and thousands of dmg at the beginning of the game (and monsters still dont die).

[MasterC77]

actually they did low damage at the biggining, they mightve had a lot of health but they did really low damage

[lolohta]

Epic, simply epic. I watched all the videos so far, i would definetly pay to buy this game. Its stunning

[Toshin696]

Man... This was amazing!!! Thanks to the Team... When an History it's about the end another begun... ( Sorry my english is bad...)

[Magitek111]

I really, really don't see how SE can do something so stupid as to C&D a ****ing non-profit rom-hack, all because some idiot told them about it. I mean, there's over 9000 rom hacks of various games floating around, not to mention some of Chrono Trigger itself.

[GeraldRobotnik]

As well as various other Square-Enix games - I'm surprised they didn't send the Radical Dreamers Translator one while they were at it.

[SunkenCathedral]

What was human Glenn's intended role in the story? Was frog Glenn going to there as well? What makes him change back?

[AustinIsSoTheMan]

Amazing work on this game CE team. For the fans, this will be the TRUE sequel to Chrono Trigger.

[SunkenCathedral]

Brilliant work guys.

I particularly love the Dinopolis (Terra Tower) sprites, and the contrast between the 3 different versions. I'd gasp in shock and excitement if I was playing CE and came across that on the map for the first time. It's immediately recognizable from Cross.

[HouseFantastic]

Maybe SE from the future decided that this game would have been too successful, in that it sparked riots that would destroy the world when their next mediocre game in the franchise came out, so they went ot Chronopolis and sent a C&D to make their own crimson echo and save the world.

[kyleh93710]

that was the sickest idea ever. fuck yeah i bet thats it...although SE are still assholes

[kid0123]

So, are the sprites publicly usable? Or they have to request for permission, or could not use them legally at all?Someone may want to use your sprites, if they interested.

Anyway, I doubt you deserve this way of outcome, or if not. At least you guys deserve a bunch of thanks from us. Or even some recognition of your work from other people, to tempted them to continue fan-project, at least not a ROM hack, so that your work will be reminisced forever.

[LinkSlySora]

Simply amazing. Great job all who worked on this project!

[MrDuncePoo]

These are the sex! Great job people who worked on them!

[xingesealcmst]

sorin looks pretty cool!!!  human glenn was epic, and very detailed and... actually, all the sprites, used and unused, are amazing.

btw, with the c&d, since u've destroyed the rom, there's no legal way SE can go after all the people listed in the vid, right? cuz that would suck... a lot

[FaustWolf]

The way I see it, the risk is that SE might monitor the online activities of the named people over the next couple years to get a head start on C&D'ing any new Chrono projects that might pop up, but won't take direct action due to their CE involvement now that the 98% patch has been disposed of. Some have actually preferred to remain anonymous due to the risks inherent in being listed, however slight.

[WiiOwner314]

As I've said previously, that was awesome, and it's more of a true sequel than anything SE is likely to make in the future. A well-made full hack of an RPG sounds near-impossible, but you guys did it. If the C&D hadn't happened, the Internet would have exploded when CE came out. This is an amazing achievement, and I hope your future projects get that extra 2% done.

[Malkaking]

this month has been probably the greatest month ever with all these vids of game play once again i say im glad you bought your project to the people in the form Square cant do shit about XD

thanks guys for everything and SORRiN's sprite is awesome kinda like Grobyc gotta love et!

[Elman1989]

Brb, I'm gonna buy a Square-Enix game...

Oh, wait.

[Uratnik]

*claps*

A truly beautiful storyline. I am glad I atleast got to see it. SE may have shut you guys down. But I think you won. You made a game, and entertained thousands of people. Square thinks they've won. But you guys are the winners here. Bravo. I'm sad I never got to play it to see if you had the gameplay down.

[Mitchregis]

ahhhh!

these extra sprites are so full of win

and im only halfway through them :O !!!

[Drainage64]

oh and what's that last track? I know it's chrono but like what cd?

[Drainage64]

Rock on You guys. Your project might have been killed in it's infancy but your dedication, struggles, and will to keep moving forward are simply amazing and inspiring to me at least. You guys undertook one of the most amazing fan game projects of all time and you quit because you had to and not because you got lazy or gave up.

YOU GUYS ARE THE WIN!

[Ronson6]

it really is a shame that nobody will ever have a chance to play this masterpiece. I really enjoyed watching this and i hope that you all realize how much you have sparked new interest into CT and CC fans accross youtube and maybe even the world.

You've created something that is hard to come across now. A friggin' awesome game!!! Thank you so much for showing us the masterpiece that you all had created. Nobody will ever forget this game!!!

[lizskywalker]

Thanks for making such a meaningful and enjoyable looking game, even if no one ever gets to play it!

[deal0rtruth]

I didn't even know that Dalton had an eye patch until I played Prophet's Guile.

It would have been nice to see Sorin's sprite, but ah well.

Great job guys. It cannot be said enough. You guys achieved something great here. If nothing else, you guys are Youtube stars.