Oh I remember this marriage. Patti eventually shot two in Jack's chest and one his back or vice-versa. Then comes the wheel-chair stage, and after that, the kill-or-cure, dangerous surgery Jack insists on so he'll walk again. 18 months after that, he's out at the Abbott poolside sexually baiting stepmommy Jill in a pair of Speedos, not a mark on him. That's soaps for ya, folks.
Terry Lester came to the Y&R in 1980 when CBS' "DALLAS" was #1 in the rating. They Called Lester's "Jack Abbott" the J.R. Ewing of daytime, W/ Terry you just loved to hate him. Its a sad he died so young in '03. I just started watching the Y&R Again last couple of weeks. Its the best daytime show on tv. I hope they never cancel it like they did ATWT and Guiding light. Does anyone know why they think the actress who plays ashley is really a man in real life that's the rumor I seen on google.
@NFitalianGuy I can't belief that they print such garbage on Google. Somebody oughta check and have the website turned down...and the account of the person who put it up so he cannot do that again. There is nothing that suggests that Eileen ever was a man. And this is something that got settled when Elieen and Eric Braeden appeared on Phil Donahue several years ago and they set the record straight.
And here I thought they just made up the Jack and Patty story out of the blue....like something they just wrote in recently.... only began watching Y&R in 2007
@brieuse007 Well Y@R had already been on the airwaves for 34 years. I suggest you check your homework and history background research to suggest how everything's relative around GC. A lot of shit went down way before this period. That's how I decide on whether I want to watch a new show: checking into fabulous history to see who did what to who and how this person has gone, general connections
I remember this s/l well. Poor virginal Patti got seduced by Jack, moved in with him and then had a shotgun wedding. Terry Lester was the man. I love Peter Bergman but Terry was in a class by himself.
Lilibet Stern was adorable as Patty. She quit acting and became a nurse in MA. But Tammy Taylor was the first Patty and played a teenage Hope on Days. Andrea Evans was good but she certainly wasn't Patty (as nice). I kinda of knew MJ Benson was Patty because when she was in bandages she told Victor she never flew on a private jet and Diane flew on one and I guess their is no more stories for Diane to come back
The whole current (June 2009) Mary Jane storyline is totally LAME! Patty is small, pudgy and blonde. The "new" Patty Williams is very tall, skinny, and brunette.
Y&R always has some stupid plastic surgery storyline going!
I was pretty young when these scenes occured, I remember some, but can anyone tell me if lilibet Stern or Andrea Evans played the role of Patty W. 1st
The Wikipedia article for Patty Williams is immediately reveals that it's Mary Jane Benson. Mary Jane Benson is most likely a name she created, based on the name off she and Paul's mom, MARY...and the name of their mom's sister.....JANE......as Mary Williams HAS a sister named JANE, if anybody remembers.
Speaking of Mary Williams, WHERE THE HELL DID SHE GO?? She should be front and center now. SHE REALLY NEEDS TO GET HER DAUGHTER INTO ONE OF HER CHURCH SESSIONS, PRONTO. Also, it would be great to see how she would react to Nikki, now that she will be marrying Paul. Does anyone know what happened to Mary, as well as Lynne??
No, I didnt know that! Thnx.....I didnt start watching this 'til 1987-88. I thought that Mary Jane was Diane at first. But now, I know it is Patty Williams. I dont know much of the story from back then....if any1 can fill me in, I 'de appreciate that! God Bless!
just go to wikipedia and read the storyline with Patty...thats what i did! Point blank, Patty was obsessed with Jack. Got pregnant..then got married. then eventualy got a miscarrige bc she she tripped at jabot (witnessing Jack & Diane making out/sex)..after from that point Jack didnt want anything to do with her..so she went to Jabot with a gun and tried to kill Jack. He survived 3 bullets to the chest. and she left town after divorcing him
absolutely NOT the story. Wikipedia is written by fans, no experts. And I watched this story unfold in real time. Patty was a sweet, naive girl who was having a budding relationship with nice-guy Danny. Then Jack swept in for a fling, but (I forget why) married her. She DID become paranoid later but he was really crappy to her. Emotional abuse. Lilibet's Patty was better, even though not a great actress, she did well within the role. As much as I loved Andrea as Tina, bust as Patty
I think Jack only married Patty so he could get The Vice Presidency of Jabot Cosmetics. Also, Jack cheated on Patty with Diane Jenkins who became a Model/Architect as well as one of Victor's Ex-Wives. Poor thing, she never got over what happened to her.
yes-that's exactly right. His father wanted him to grow up, so the "fling" he was having had to become a real thing--engaged, married--to Patty. So, Patty was the heroine throughout this story because Jack was a dog. Terry Lester perfectly balanced Jack's bad traits with a likeability--who could ever not like Jack. We saw his torment over his mother, Dina leaving. I wish Lilibet had finished the Patty story before leaving.
Jack was dating Jill in 1981 when John had left town. He originally dated Patti to spite Jill who wasn't sure she wanted a serious relationship. Then he found out about her son Phillip and accused her of being a gold digger and dumped her, Patti was in love with Jack, but as was stated Jack only remained with Patti to save face.
@SoapsGoldenAge Yeah well then you would also know that before Andrea's Tina left, Jack had helped Patty recall the drama that got her to shoot Jack 5 times(rightfully I'd say) in therapy(which Patty forgot shortly afterwards and miscarried) she remembered and the two decided that they were even, she signed the divorce papers and took off for parts unknown.
ok, so MJB is really PW as in seeing her daydreaming about Paul coming into her room and she had a argument(6/17/09 episode). She then said in the midst of her daydreaming argument to Paul "I've always hated when you did that"(paraphrasing). WOW!!
Yep, here's Mary Jane Benson from back in the day aka Patty Williams. I hope MAB and her writing crew don't mess this one up because they could pull a "William Bell classic" with how everything gets resolved. It'd be refreshing to see!
Why LML killed John Abbott off is beyond me! I hate that he's gone now but coming back as the ghost of Abbott past to give encouraging or hard advice to his children ~ GMAB!!!
Right, "Jack and Diane" sure was playing. Patty did see them together, in Jack's office, but she couldn't tell it was Diane that he was with. She turned and ran and fell, losing their baby as a result.
No, she shot him a few months after that, when she overheard him say the only reason he married her was so he could become president of Jabot. He had really pushed her over the edge by that point.
I originally thought Mary Jane was Mary Jo as well! But once I saw her strong link with Paul Williams (her brother) it became obvious she is Patti Williams. Also, the other day Jack mentioned being shot three times (by Patti). Mary Jane Benson is 100% PATTI WILLIAMS
I too remember Patti and that infamous night he slept with Diane and Ashley waking in on them. I wish this Patti had stayed, she was much prettier than Andrea Evans! Are there any other videos of this Patti online?
Like warmtube, Lilibet Stern as Patty is the one who drew me in to watching Y&R back in the early 80's. Who could resist her? I know she ended up marrying some doctor in Massachusetts but is she still married?
@yandrfan4ever there's a clip but it isn't really a good one. it's invested too much in Katherine's diatribe(don't marry her!) what would've interested me was seeing the Abbott Children(Jack, Ashley and Traci) flinchingly, patiently and quietly sitting through the ceremony...and I'm sure everyone else in GC found John's behavior appaling too.
Jerry Douglas has returned to Y&R not as John but a dead ringer to John. Jack is using him to impersonate John in order to haunt Gloria and get her out of the Abbott home.
Riveting. Now I remember why I liked the show so much back then! The zooms look a bit dodgy but the use of mirror reflection and the focus pulls was very cool.
Even, John tried to tell the truth about his son Jack to Patty.
Silly Patty. Jack's not for you.
u8myshorts20 1 month ago
Oh dear Patty! Listen to John about the inner well being!!
sonyab1974 2 months ago
man was he handsome!
jodicoady 1 year ago
This was such a classic bad boy-good girl scenario.
AstralPixie 1 year ago
Wow now think about her charcter got all screwed up because of Jack she tried to murder someone she got plastic surgerey and now she's all messed up
SLRBFF04 1 year ago
Oh I remember this marriage. Patti eventually shot two in Jack's chest and one his back or vice-versa. Then comes the wheel-chair stage, and after that, the kill-or-cure, dangerous surgery Jack insists on so he'll walk again. 18 months after that, he's out at the Abbott poolside sexually baiting stepmommy Jill in a pair of Speedos, not a mark on him. That's soaps for ya, folks.
dvlaries 1 year ago
Terry Lester came to the Y&R in 1980 when CBS' "DALLAS" was #1 in the rating. They Called Lester's "Jack Abbott" the J.R. Ewing of daytime, W/ Terry you just loved to hate him. Its a sad he died so young in '03. I just started watching the Y&R Again last couple of weeks. Its the best daytime show on tv. I hope they never cancel it like they did ATWT and Guiding light. Does anyone know why they think the actress who plays ashley is really a man in real life that's the rumor I seen on google.
NFitalianGuy 1 year ago
@NFitalianGuy
Actually ATWT James Stenbeck is the J.R. of daytime.
jmjfanss 1 year ago
NFitalianGuy: The rumor that Eileen Davidson (Ashley) is/or was a man is
strictly an 'urban legend'/myth started some freaky 20 yrs ago ferchrissakes!
She was born 6/59 (51yrs old) - way too
old IMO to be involved in a storyline where
her character gets pregnant! Tho' she looks damn good - and much younger! She is married to her 3rd husband Vince VanPatten & has a son, Jesse (7)!
dia33386 1 year ago
NFitalianGuy: I *so* agree with u re
Terry Lester's performance as the original Jack Abbot!
He played "bad' so damn well what w/ his blonde,"Steve McQueen" good looks!
Like U, I was so sad when he died of apparent heart failure 11/28/2003 at the age of 53!
dia33386 1 year ago 2
@NFitalianGuy I can't belief that they print such garbage on Google. Somebody oughta check and have the website turned down...and the account of the person who put it up so he cannot do that again. There is nothing that suggests that Eileen ever was a man. And this is something that got settled when Elieen and Eric Braeden appeared on Phil Donahue several years ago and they set the record straight.
imachildofthe80s8089 1 year ago
And here I thought they just made up the Jack and Patty story out of the blue....like something they just wrote in recently.... only began watching Y&R in 2007
brieuse007 2 years ago
@brieuse007 Well Y@R had already been on the airwaves for 34 years. I suggest you check your homework and history background research to suggest how everything's relative around GC. A lot of shit went down way before this period. That's how I decide on whether I want to watch a new show: checking into fabulous history to see who did what to who and how this person has gone, general connections
imachildofthe80s8089 1 year ago
She's so much more pretty than now!!! I hate her now!
disneylandlover101 2 years ago
Lilibet looks a little bit like Stacy :D
Plasvi 2 years ago
I remember this s/l well. Poor virginal Patti got seduced by Jack, moved in with him and then had a shotgun wedding. Terry Lester was the man. I love Peter Bergman but Terry was in a class by himself.
write2ap 2 years ago 7
Lilibet Stern was adorable as Patty. She quit acting and became a nurse in MA. But Tammy Taylor was the first Patty and played a teenage Hope on Days. Andrea Evans was good but she certainly wasn't Patty (as nice). I kinda of knew MJ Benson was Patty because when she was in bandages she told Victor she never flew on a private jet and Diane flew on one and I guess their is no more stories for Diane to come back
nightowlchad 2 years ago 2
The whole current (June 2009) Mary Jane storyline is totally LAME! Patty is small, pudgy and blonde. The "new" Patty Williams is very tall, skinny, and brunette.
Y&R always has some stupid plastic surgery storyline going!
crossy70 2 years ago
I was pretty young when these scenes occured, I remember some, but can anyone tell me if lilibet Stern or Andrea Evans played the role of Patty W. 1st
RachelETrapp 2 years ago
Lilibet Stern played the role of Patty first.
tlmac1000 2 years ago
Actually she didn't, look her up!
florenceballard 2 years ago
Look up Patty Williams on Wikipedia
florenceballard 2 years ago
The Wikipedia article for Patty Williams is immediately reveals that it's Mary Jane Benson. Mary Jane Benson is most likely a name she created, based on the name off she and Paul's mom, MARY...and the name of their mom's sister.....JANE......as Mary Williams HAS a sister named JANE, if anybody remembers.
marcusrob02 2 years ago
Speaking of Mary Williams, WHERE THE HELL DID SHE GO?? She should be front and center now. SHE REALLY NEEDS TO GET HER DAUGHTER INTO ONE OF HER CHURCH SESSIONS, PRONTO. Also, it would be great to see how she would react to Nikki, now that she will be marrying Paul. Does anyone know what happened to Mary, as well as Lynne??
manussa77 2 years ago
No, I didnt know that! Thnx.....I didnt start watching this 'til 1987-88. I thought that Mary Jane was Diane at first. But now, I know it is Patty Williams. I dont know much of the story from back then....if any1 can fill me in, I 'de appreciate that! God Bless!
phillygrl69 2 years ago
i thought the same thing
hilltopjack 2 years ago
I that Mary Jane was Diane as well (lol)!!! This Patty person is not familiar to me.
Mel3177 2 years ago
just go to wikipedia and read the storyline with Patty...thats what i did! Point blank, Patty was obsessed with Jack. Got pregnant..then got married. then eventualy got a miscarrige bc she she tripped at jabot (witnessing Jack & Diane making out/sex)..after from that point Jack didnt want anything to do with her..so she went to Jabot with a gun and tried to kill Jack. He survived 3 bullets to the chest. and she left town after divorcing him
..Shes a nutcase.
Dynasty1303 2 years ago
absolutely NOT the story. Wikipedia is written by fans, no experts. And I watched this story unfold in real time. Patty was a sweet, naive girl who was having a budding relationship with nice-guy Danny. Then Jack swept in for a fling, but (I forget why) married her. She DID become paranoid later but he was really crappy to her. Emotional abuse. Lilibet's Patty was better, even though not a great actress, she did well within the role. As much as I loved Andrea as Tina, bust as Patty
SoapsGoldenAge 2 years ago 5
I think Jack only married Patty so he could get The Vice Presidency of Jabot Cosmetics. Also, Jack cheated on Patty with Diane Jenkins who became a Model/Architect as well as one of Victor's Ex-Wives. Poor thing, she never got over what happened to her.
laminage 2 years ago
yes-that's exactly right. His father wanted him to grow up, so the "fling" he was having had to become a real thing--engaged, married--to Patty. So, Patty was the heroine throughout this story because Jack was a dog. Terry Lester perfectly balanced Jack's bad traits with a likeability--who could ever not like Jack. We saw his torment over his mother, Dina leaving. I wish Lilibet had finished the Patty story before leaving.
SoapsGoldenAge 2 years ago
Jack was dating Jill in 1981 when John had left town. He originally dated Patti to spite Jill who wasn't sure she wanted a serious relationship. Then he found out about her son Phillip and accused her of being a gold digger and dumped her, Patti was in love with Jack, but as was stated Jack only remained with Patti to save face.
flagler88 2 years ago
@SoapsGoldenAge Yeah well then you would also know that before Andrea's Tina left, Jack had helped Patty recall the drama that got her to shoot Jack 5 times(rightfully I'd say) in therapy(which Patty forgot shortly afterwards and miscarried) she remembered and the two decided that they were even, she signed the divorce papers and took off for parts unknown.
imachildofthe80s8089 1 year ago 2
read online
florenceballard 2 years ago
ok, so MJB is really PW as in seeing her daydreaming about Paul coming into her room and she had a argument(6/17/09 episode). She then said in the midst of her daydreaming argument to Paul "I've always hated when you did that"(paraphrasing). WOW!!
LaghikLyfe 2 years ago
Jack did her dirty.
FFTLDIVA 2 years ago
its an awesome story but she looks NOTHING like the original Patty Williams, and can someone change their voice and height as well??
Bekka656 2 years ago
There was plastic surgery so that explains her appearance but I'm not sure about the voice and height.
PeterBluth 2 years ago
That's what I keep thinking. Patty was always petite. The "Mary Jane" woman is too tall. I guess she had plastic surgery on her height, too;-)
snoops71 2 years ago
Yep, here's Mary Jane Benson from back in the day aka Patty Williams. I hope MAB and her writing crew don't mess this one up because they could pull a "William Bell classic" with how everything gets resolved. It'd be refreshing to see!
Why LML killed John Abbott off is beyond me! I hate that he's gone now but coming back as the ghost of Abbott past to give encouraging or hard advice to his children ~ GMAB!!!
1lightqt 2 years ago
That's Mary Jane Benson.
JAldridge86 2 years ago
jack was just like billy
MishanB 2 years ago
He was. I thinks it's a genetic trait in the Abbott men to have so many women at once.
PeterBluth 2 years ago
I think John Mellencamp was singing "Jack & Diane" when Patty was about to find them together.
crowleysridgegirl 2 years ago
Right, "Jack and Diane" sure was playing. Patty did see them together, in Jack's office, but she couldn't tell it was Diane that he was with. She turned and ran and fell, losing their baby as a result.
snoops71 2 years ago
I thought that was when Patty shot him?
crowleysridgegirl 2 years ago
No, she shot him a few months after that, when she overheard him say the only reason he married her was so he could become president of Jabot. He had really pushed her over the edge by that point.
snoops71 2 years ago
OK,it's been a long time since I saw it.
crowleysridgegirl 2 years ago
Oh, me too. It was up here on YouTube a few months ago, but someone took it down.
snoops71 2 years ago
MaryJane Benson is actually Patty Williams (Paul's sister)! She was hired by Victor Newman to manipulate her way back into Jack's life!
hankwheels 2 years ago 2
Wow. That's exactly what I thought!!
yellaj87 2 years ago
It's also a rumour that Mary Jane is Mari Jo, which is more likely. Mary Jane sounds alot like Mari Jo too, lol
manussa77 2 years ago
I originally thought Mary Jane was Mary Jo as well! But once I saw her strong link with Paul Williams (her brother) it became obvious she is Patti Williams. Also, the other day Jack mentioned being shot three times (by Patti). Mary Jane Benson is 100% PATTI WILLIAMS
hankwheels 2 years ago
And if you go on the Wikipedia link for Mary Jane's character, it pretty much completely confirms it there too.
marcusrob02 2 years ago
Anyone got the video of the other Patty shooting Jack when she catches him and Diane in the Jabot office?
crowleysridgegirl 2 years ago 2
Where Jack get shot it on youtube
applesauce2100 2 years ago
I have done a search for it several ways,and I still can't find it.
crowleysridgegirl 2 years ago
Patty is so awesome should toatlly come back and kick Jack butt. That would be so awesome:)
Gottapenname 2 years ago
there are a lot of rumors on soap boards that that new chick maryjane might be patty!
keys1125 2 years ago
I think it's patty because today mystery lady met Paul and thinks were very ackward. Wasn't Paul Patty's brother?
uih95 2 years ago
yep he was, I didnt watch back then but patty was jacks ex, I think she went loco and shot him
keys1125 2 years ago
I too remember Patti and that infamous night he slept with Diane and Ashley waking in on them. I wish this Patti had stayed, she was much prettier than Andrea Evans! Are there any other videos of this Patti online?
akellam 2 years ago
I remember Patty. I also remember how Jack slept with Diane the night before their wedding, and how Ashley caught them.
She should have listened to John...
snoops71 3 years ago
I think Patty should return to Y&R along with Mary! Paul needs his family to lean on again especially now that his daughter is in life again
victorfan80 3 years ago
If they return they will have to bring the sone he had with isabella too
sexymika22 3 years ago
Yes Ricky they should age him and bring him back as a young adult!
victorfan80 3 years ago
Like warmtube, Lilibet Stern as Patty is the one who drew me in to watching Y&R back in the early 80's. Who could resist her? I know she ended up marrying some doctor in Massachusetts but is she still married?
cdfreester 3 years ago
I have to say that I liked Patty #2 (Andrea Evans) a bit better.
TRAVISJAMES03 3 years ago
Amazing!!! Got any of Victor and Julia????
Scoti45 3 years ago
Do you have any clips of John & Jill's 1st wedding? Or any clips of Deborah Adair as Jill?
yandrfan4ever 3 years ago
No I don't, sorry.
aussieguy34 3 years ago
@yandrfan4ever there's a clip but it isn't really a good one. it's invested too much in Katherine's diatribe(don't marry her!) what would've interested me was seeing the Abbott Children(Jack, Ashley and Traci) flinchingly, patiently and quietly sitting through the ceremony...and I'm sure everyone else in GC found John's behavior appaling too.
entertainme3000 1 year ago
Lilibet Stern (Patty) got me watching the Young & the Restless in 1983. She was absolutley BEAUTIFUL! Believe it or not she's now a nurse!!
warmtube 3 years ago
I wish they would bring back characters like patty, then write in new ones.
londonari 3 years ago
Jerry Douglas has returned to Y&R not as John but a dead ringer to John. Jack is using him to impersonate John in order to haunt Gloria and get her out of the Abbott home.
victorfan80 3 years ago
That sounds like typical LML crap, lol!
aussieguy34 3 years ago
Haha yeah thats true lol! and they have been doing this stupid look-alike or evil twin thing for over a year now it's getting so old and annoying.
victorfan80 3 years ago
It sounds more like Days of Our Lives, especially during the James E Reilly days.
flagler88 3 years ago
I don't watch Days Of Our Lives the days of my life are watching Y&R lol! well thats a hobby of mine anways!
victorfan80 3 years ago
@aussieguy34 MAB is not much better!
megamanmaniac 10 months ago
Riveting. Now I remember why I liked the show so much back then! The zooms look a bit dodgy but the use of mirror reflection and the focus pulls was very cool.
fangora2001 3 years ago
i loved Lilibet as Patty! i remember wanting Patty with Danny sooooooo badly! wow! the memories!
anniek1872 3 years ago
classic!!!!!!!!
ddm5683 3 years ago
Jack cheated on Patty with Diane Jenkins who in turn got her revenge by shooting Jack lol
victorfan80 3 years ago
thanks for the clip. Where did you find this?
acura222002 3 years ago