Azfar Mani Show - Hasan Nisar (Episode 91) Part 2 of 5

[kingangad]

hindoon ne duniya ko zero diya hai. Pythagoras therom jo hai wo india se nikli thi baad mein wo kaise pythagoras bani pta hai. we indians are software kings. Or main ek sikh hoon. Raman effect indian sceintist CV Raman ne world ko diya.

[aniketranade]

BTW...u said......japanese also make chips, ships, planes etc. invented by westerns nt by japanese. You ever used Floppy disk my friend? Or Camcorder Or CD Or a quartz wrist watch Or ever sat in a Subway? Or Walkman Or Pocket calculator? Or a video cassette Or a Digital camera?? They Are ALL JAPANESE INVENTIONS....:))

[pratindian]

@aniketranade ohh man ..you are at ur best once again ...they might be japanese products not INVENTIONS.. we all know Floppy disks are invented by IBM. ok if IBM you think is a japanese company then i give in.

[aniketranade]

@pratindian The floppy disk is counted among the many inventions of the colorful Yoshiro Nakamatsu, AKA Dr. NakaMats. The details behind the invention, and how the technology wound up in IBM’s hands, are shrouded in mystery, but Nakamatsu was awarded a patent for the base technology behind the floppy disk in 1952, long before they went public.

May be you should READ MORE....:)))

[pratindian]

@aniketranade i know abt that. but its a claim. i don't deny innovative skills of japanese.and don't want to argue on this. maybe he is correct but its still debatable and we know it as IBM product you check that too. I ' ll read more.

My conclusion is inventions in modern world are dominated by westerns maybe later on other people might do other things. but today's reality is this.

[aniketranade]

How can one possibly Measure or keep track of inventions in ancient times??...

We can only make an argument for the time period when people started documenting and keeping records of their inventions.....

Without the numbers, this debate will be like the ones they had in stone age...when people sat across each other and argued whether earth was round or flat...and the one making better argument won...:))

[pratindian]

@aniketranade Ohh man talking abt that time also! In fact the discussion was about contribution to modern society and almost everything is from medieval or post industrialization era. and boundry regarding parameters we are drawing is based on pre PATENT and POST patent era and its not necessary to stretched too far in the past just till post ind. era u can say. for our present discussion.

[pratindian]

Again ..I agree that their is a relation between Patents and Inventions but not the extent that they can be use interchangeably...I don't want to discount 20th century.I am just trying to find a common denominator on which you can judge all invention irrespective of era..it is definition of invention itself...

Sorry i can not revel my true identity by coming on gtalk ..I have too many enemies specially across ur border ;)

[aniketranade]

@pratindian So you have NO PARAMETER in mind......but you are still sure that my parameter is WRONG.....WOW!!!

LOL

[pratindian]

@aniketranade I said the parameter is definition of invention itself and I am sure it is not in terms of Patents as you urself said that Patents are 20th century phenomenon. So if you think in terms of patent then how can u find a common denominator while including old inventions when Patent was not there??

Yor parameter might apply to new inventions and only to the products and processes(which is also debatable) and not to the concepts and theories.

[aniketranade]

@pratindian so the parameter of measuring INVENTIONS is the DEFINITION of it???

Whaaa??????

[pratindian]

@aniketranade Thats exactly what I meant. impossible to comprehend? ? :D

[aniketranade]

@pratindian Yeah....so the parameter of measuring electric current is the definition of it??

Think about it....when they giving you electric shocks during ur treatment...;))

[pratindian]

@aniketranade you don't know then that many things in this world or defined in terms of themselves ... To appease your mind you just keep thinking any example. Sorry to say you (rather we sometimes) don't differ from zaid hamid in that sense.

[aniketranade]

@pratindian Sure we dont.......If you are asked who were the countries leading inventions in the field of Science and Technology in 20th century...

your answer would be....welll the WESTERN COUNTRIES....

and whats the parameter for arriving at that conclusion???

Ans: Wel...just check the definition of INVENTION!!.....No facts, figures or numbers.....just the DEFINITION!!

THATS ALMOST AS INSANE AS ZAID....:)))

[pratindian]

@aniketranade ..thats too much man...rape of intellectual process i'd say. :D when i say definition its what is behind that defination lol......its not few words formed by randon sequence of alphabets... I think u only understood meaning of patent. Definition of invention is just some black color painting in ur dictionary go, take help of some teacher and understand that too man....

[aniketranade]

@pratindian So if you are asked this question 'Who were the countries leading sceince and technology in 20th century'?

How are you going to answer it...and on what basis??

Im veryy interested to know

[pratindian]

@aniketranade see I'd include name of Japan if thts what u want to listen, bt plz don't try to connect it 2 d inventions. once something is invented and discovered it becomes part of science or technology or both. and please understand science , technology , invention, engineering and economic growth all are different things. they are related but not the same.& 4 any rational and pure analysis it is important to understand the difference. otherwise its just a mockery and cheap quarrel n nt a.

[aniketranade]

@pratindian You'd include Japan if I WANT IT??....LOL

should you not include them because they are very proficinet in science and technology?? And they have been excluded by Mr Nisar for which I have stated that he is clearly not well informed about it.

[pratindian]

@aniketranade you are in a full circle... japan is advance in science and technology but they didn't invent everything is the point.. now since ur definition of invention is different so I can not help.

[aniketranade]

@pratindian yeah...and screw those stupid Nobel laureates from Japan too...they were just mooching off the INVENTIONS from the western world...LMAO!!!

[pratindian]

@aniketranade no they are all great I respect them all !! just compare the number with number of western noble laureates .

[aniketranade]

@pratindian You have still not answered the Question...how would you QUANTIFY it??

What in you opinion is the way to measure Invention??

You are like one of those Holocaust deniers...If you say theres documentary way to prove that about 6 million Jews were Killed in the Holocaust..they say NO THEY DIDNT!

If you ask them how many in their opinion died,

Their reply.."I Dont know...but IT WAS NOT 6 MILLION"...LOL

[pratindian]

@aniketranade My point is very clear since beginning ...you have a habit of comparing totally unrelated thing are partically related things. you go on doing as weird as measuring invention !! well is number of noble laureates in you opinion any criteria  for countries ?? i think that is better than number PATENT being filed . because it at least measures the highest achievement in a field covering everything let it be related to product , process, theory , concept ,proof etc.

[aniketranade]

We are definitely behind developed nations from Europe, US or JAPAN but we are way ahead of Pakistan or other Islamic countries in the middle east which are 100 times richer than us.....EVER THOUGHT OF THAT??

[klosedstreet]

Hassan Nisar is talking about current circumstances - overall we have no collective contribution. If any Indian or yellowish in NASA and Europe is performing well then this pride does not belong to us. I may repharase, over all living conditions are better than in EU snd USA. Even if we are halted at our invisible achievements then no one can't help.

[absax17]

As for the chinese they created paper and gun-powder to name a few. How could this moron Hassan Nissar claim that only whites have achieved scientifically.

[absax17]

Forget about the ancient times, Indians have made many modern contributions, be it the Raman effect on the moving away of distant galaxies, creation of artificail genes by Hargobind Khurana, Proving that plants are living by J.C. Basu , Ramanujam (who solved and created the world's most complex maths riddles) etc., we have created the world's best remote sensing satellites (NASA buys the data from India), major contributions in  nano-technology, Vinod Dham created pentium chip.

[absax17]

Hindus gave the world numbers with most important invention of zero and decimal system, Charak created Ayurveda (now adopted as UK's national health system). It is widely ackknowledged in the west that before 326 BC i.e. the invasion of Alexander there were hardly any major discoveries it was only adter Alexander went back from India and took ancient manuscripts that west discovered many things and claimed as their own. It is now being debated whether these were really discovered by the west.

[bapina2k]

@absax17 Even the Muslims living in India and Pakistan are force converted or else are the reasult of polygamy and incest.Arabic culture/tradition in the form of Burqua/Jihad/Sharia imposed in other geographical locations are going to fail sooner or later.Kyon ki unki buniyaad yahin ki nahin he.People should understand who actually they are.They were not imported from Arab.It makes Pakistan when you become a part of any nasty movement in the name of that foreign god called Khuda/allah/what-ever

[JavadAhmed]

with all due respect to Mr. Nisar, the greatest genius the world has ever known, Srīnivāsa Aiyangār Rāmānujam, was a Hindu!

[JavadAhmed]

with all due respect to Mr. Nisar, the greatest genius the world has ever known, Ramanujan, was a Hindu!

[JavadAhmed]

with all due respect to Mr. Nisar, the greatest genius the world has ever known, Ramanujan, was a Hindu!

[aniketranade]

1. So technically theres no concept of 'Nation of Pakistan'....meaning any muslim outside Pakistan has as much of a right to come and stay there as the people already living there......am I right?

[ateeq637]

i like hasan nisar and mani is 000

[aniketranade]

Im an Indian and I really respect Hassan Saab. But he is clearly misinformed about the contribution of Hindus and yellow races( Japan? Taiwan?)

The Intel Chip used in 90% of computers today was invented by Vinod Dahm, an Indian.

28% IBM employees in the world are INDIANS

17% INTEL employees in the world are INDIANS

36% NASA employees are INDIANS

34% MICROSOFT employees are INDIANS

This is not intended to spread hate BTW.

In fact, Im saying that if we have done it, you guys can do it too.

[chetanwithlove]

@aniketranade My only questiong is Why are these inventions not invented by Indians in India. All these people hold foreign passports. This is what Mr H. Nisar is tryig to tell us. We cannot give a fisible enviorment to these people that they have to leave India / Pakistan and work for someone else. These are american cos. Intel IBM NASA etc who make money and not India / Pakistan. Do not be proud of these false claims.

[adililyas1]

@aniketranade :well i agree with u but we all are working under,there are millions things which west invented...so things where more worst when british where ruling and things change by time and this is fact!

[aniketranade]

@adililyas1 I dont understand what you are saying...Are you ACTUALLY counting yellow races out?? We might be some distance behind...but we are catching up fast.

[nowme1211]

@aniketranade LOOK BRO OUT OF UR EXAMPLES U PEOPLE ARE "EMPLOYES" OF WESTNERS WHO R EARNING FROM U UR OWN CONDITION IS THAT U PEOPLE ARE THE BIGGEST BYERS OF AMRS AND NEW TECHNOLOGIES IN THIS WORLD BCZ U CANT MAKE THEM FOR INDIA SO IF U THINK U PEOPLE R THAT GOOD CREATE A FIGHTER JET GO ON CREATE SOME THING WE HAVE CREATED ONE JF THUNDER 17.AND ITS FOR PAKISTAN NOT FOR BILL GATES

[aniketranade]

@nowme1211 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHA

[BeingHuman00three]

@aniketranade : ya i agree

[Walithequick]

@aniketranade

You never understood him. I can also say that x% of Microsoft employees are Muslims and etc. Look does not even matters if 100% of Microsoft employees are Indians and 100% of NASA employees are Muslims.

The issue is that even if we are 100%, we are still employees. That is no progress. That is what we used to do under British Colonization. Its just that this looks glamorous.

Yes, I do agree that as compared to Pakistan, India has contributed more.

[aniketranade]

@Walithequick What has being muslims to do with this ??..Why do Pakis refuse to speak for themselves and start talking directly about the whole muslim community?? Muslims exist OUTSIDE Pakistan too u know...

[Walithequick]

@aniketranade

aaaah haaaa,

Good question. Very Good question.

It is due to the difference in the concept of Nationalism. And the implicit reason in creation of Pakistan was this difference, actually the materialization of our nationalism.

Tell me if you need elaboration. Sorry i would have gone ahead but I am busy now.

[aniketranade]

@Walithequick I honestly hope you are not being sarcastic. And yes I would to read an elaborate answer. Just write whenever you have time. Its always nice to hear a voice of reason. Have a great day!

[Walithequick]

@aniketranade

Look, western nationalism that was developed in last 3 centuries says that a nation is formed on a basis of language, creed, color, or land. Now in the west, there was a need for such nationalism because they nothing to be loyal to. Like, nothing that is supreme and deserves one's utmost loyalty.

[Walithequick]

@aniketranade

Those two things are 1. Knowledge(or belief/faith) 2. Actions(deeds)

In Islamic political philosophy a nation( Millat) is only determined by one of these 2 things. So let me quote Iqbal:

" in taaza khudao mei sab se bada watan hai

jo paerahan iska hai, wo MAZHAB KA KAFAN HAI"

"Guftaar-e-Sisyasat mei watan aur kuch hai,

haan magar, irshaad-e-nabuwat mai watan aur kuch hai"

[Walithequick]

@aniketranade

I honestly acknowledge that today the majority of Muslims(not terrorist element, because I dont consider them muslims) is pathetic and idiotic(both liberals and conservatives). They know nothing about there own religion. They think that once they gain knowledge, they do not need to apply that knowledge.

The Implicit reason to create Pakistan: to create a front where the destroyed muslim world could unite, and this is very evident in Iqbal's Urdu-Persian work.

[Walithequick]

@aniketranade

PLEASE READ MY RESPONSE IN PROPER ORDER.......or you wont get anything, i suppose.

[Walithequick]

@Walithequick

DISCLAIMER: When I refer to Islam or Islamic ideology please do not refer to any psychologically disabled groups in Afghanistan, Pakistan, or even Arab world.

Islamic societies where Islam is followed never felt the need of nationalism because Islam very clearly says that where you live you need to defend that place, be it India or UK.

Look all humans are equal regardless of their race, color, etc

Only two things differentiate human from one another.

[JavadAhmed]

@aniketranade with all due respect to Mr. Nisar, the greatest genius the world has ever known, Srīnivāsa Aiyangār Rāmānujam, was a Hindu!

[JavadAhmed]

@aniketranade with all due respect to Mr. Nisar, the greatest genius the world has ever known, Srīnivāsa Aiyangār Rāmānujam, was a Hindu!

[nirmaljot]

@aniketranade bro.....Hassan is talking about inventions ...not abt jobs.

Who invent Computer ?? and now computer provided number of jobs.....and u r saying .....this percentage of INDIANS are working on Computer.

but Hassan's point of view was ....inventions.

[aniketranade]

@nirmaljot I know dude....what is the modern scale to measure inventions??

It is patents.......and India is one of the leaders in number of Patents filed last year. so....there you go....:))

[alizedd]

@aniketranade Like wise my good neighbour :) you were lucky you got good leaders, while after Jinnah we had none. Live in peace dear neighbour.

[pratindian]

@aniketranade ..that's not what he meant..i am also an indian and i don't know about profession but if u r frm science background u shud know chip design isn't an "invention" or "discovery". d original contribution of hindus 4 modern world last came whn we gave concept of zero. All our other inventions and discoveries became obsolete in middle era itself.Muslim have nothing that they hv contributed to "modern science". All figures u hv mentioned just prove availability of cheap labor in india.

[aniketranade]

@pratindian Are you fuckin retarded?? The only parameter for 'invention' post industrialization is number of Patents filed...Now, if you care to see the number of Patents filed from India...or by companies in which Indians are a significant workforce, you will not have the balls to spit the bullshit that you just did. LOOK IT UP RETARD!!!!

[pratindian]

@aniketranade ..that's a loss of common sense man to think that ONLY PARAMETER of INVENTION is number of PATENTs filed NOT even obtained :D...IT defies any common.probably pakistanis are not getting enough time otherwise they ll start filing one on daily basis to compete with us.You are completly out of context in ur other arguments as well..I can understand it only if u r some less than 20 year kid with a lot of excitement and stimulation with little or no sesne of analysis.

[aniketranade]

@pratindian Well..I can tell a few more examples of LITTLE OR NO SENSE OF ANALYSIS -

1.when someone writes 'A GOOD WAY is to look at the number of Patents being filed'....and you read it as ' THE ONLY WAY is to look at the number of patents being filed'

2.When Someone calls the 36 % workforce of NASA...CHEAP LABOUR....:))

3. And when someone just doesnt address an issue when he has no answer for it (like you did regarding other asian countries)...See next message for explanation.

[pratindian]

@aniketranade #1. go & read ur own comment regarding after Post industri..era again to see if u say "GOOD way " or "ONLY WAY".If u r so short term memory i can undestand problem in ur analysis (humor not insult plz..:) )

#2. yes that is cheap labour we all knw type of jobs we do in those companies can be done by people of any nationality.

#3. I already said tht these countries are developed based on west inventions.japanese also make chips, ships, planes etc. invented by westerns nt by japanese.

[aniketranade]

Okay...now to ur favorite Topic Mr. KNOW IT ALL - I Had a look at the Top 20 list of PATENTS OBTAINED LIST for 2010.....guess how many of the are 'WESTERN COMPANIES'?? SIX YOU MORON!!!! SIX!!!! Here are the 14 NON WESTERN companies - Rank - 2 Samsung Electronics (Korea) 4 Canon (Japan) 5 Panasonic (Japan) 6 Toshiba (Japan) 7 Sony (Japan) 9 LG Electronics (Korea) 11 Hitachi (Japan) 12 Seiko Epson (Japan) 14 Fujitsu Ltd (Japan) READ ON..... 

[pratindian]

@aniketranade ....Only uneducated ,ill informed , and highly confused person can compare patents with inventions. Patents are commercial transformations of "products" or "processes". based on ur analysis since Einstein can not get any patent because he didn't invent any process or product but a theory , so he is inferior to Mr Bhaaluraam who has patent of making KACHaaLU out of Potatto somewhere in connecticut or in Satara district of MAharashtra !!

[aniketranade]

@pratindian You said, " Only uneducated ,ill informed , and highly confused person can compare patents with inventions."

Well...that means I am uneducated, ill-informed and highly confused.....and so are marriam-Webster guys...because they define a "Patent" as follows -

"a writing securing for a term of years the exclusive right to make, use, or sell an INVENTION".........LMAO!!!

BTW......whats ur parameter for measuring inventions Genuis??

[pratindian]

@aniketranade basic problem with your understanding is this definition is ,it defines PATENTS in terms of INVENTIONS and you are trying to define INVENTIONS in terms of PATENTS.Inventions may lead to PATENTS they may not as well. and idea here was abt original concepts. there might be concepts that can not be patented but that doesn't mean that it is not invented, like theory of relativity and concept of zero. on the other hand printing press and wireless can be. So don't confuse terms plz.

[aniketranade]

@pratindian So by your thesis, the Wright brothers are 'INVENTORS' of airplane....and thats it!...The thousands of scientists who have brought their product to where it is today dont deserve that recognition...right??

Similarly, Alexander Graham Bell is the only INVENTOR......and all the scientists working on phone technology after him are 'cheap labour'??

[pratindian]

@aniketranade you might reject it but you got me 30% right this time....who ever is using that invention or working on that technology is an excellent and highly qualified person no denial in that ..but he is not an inventor of idea...its also not that Graham bell is only inventor.I don't know wht you mean by that. and Idea of cheap labor is not related to this discussion. It has to do with the stats you provided in ur support.

[aniketranade]

@pratindian The examples you are quoting are if a bygone era.....Do you really think in today's times there are 'original concepts' going unnoticed without the inventor filing for patents????

BTW...once again you totally ignore the question you have no answer to......I asked you if you had any other parameter to measure inventions in today's day and age....besides Patents.....You have a very selective memory...:))

[pratindian]

@aniketranade Its ir relavent question like a lot of your logics..did you realize that? you have ur dictionary

with you and my idea abt invention is same..and if you don't forget our discussion was about contribution of people in past era only. now what is happening in today's world and what hill happen in future is mystery.I am not saying that anything will never happen or not happening. our discussion was abt what has happened.

[aniketranade]

@pratindian Yeah..and the patents are being filed for more than a century now......the ONLY modern inventor who didnt file a patent for his invention was Dr. Jonas Salk who invented Polio vaccine.

and he did so by his OWN CHOICE because he wanted the general public to get the medicine easily and for cheap.

If you just want to discount the whole 20th century...then what ou say may be relevant...:))

[aniketranade]

@aniketranade Yeah..no shame in agreeing to disagree..:))

You said "In my view every researcher is not an inventor and in your view he is."

Wrong again! I said, many researchers who have taken the basic concept forward is an 'inventor'..

Newton invented Calculus...but even he didnt know it's various applications. The Mathematicians who have toiled hard and came up with applying those concepts to practical problems are ALL INVENTORS....even Newton wont disagree with that im sure....LOL

[aniketranade]

Dont get confused dude......Inventions dont stop at the initial concept.....sure Einstein was an INVENTOR...but so are the other physicists who have toiled for their life studying the theory of relativity.

Research didnt stop when Marconi invented the Radio...it STARTED......and continues to this day.....Think about it...

[pratindian]

@aniketranade ..you lost me 100 % this time man ! whoever is studying relatively is an inventor??? ...its a sort of joke?..i didn't know that i am also an inventor then :D. yes...research continues and invention is a result of research ..research is not an invention in itself..

[aniketranade]

@pratindian By studying I meant researching...the physicist who have worked for their life on this project and taken it forward...yes I do think they are inventors....You dont have to agree ...its okay...:))

[aniketranade]

@aniketranade BTW..if you are available on gtalk let me know..this is a horrible way to communicate...:))

[pratindian]

@aniketranade good now we have agreed to disagree. In my view every researcher is not an inventor and in your view he is. So if you are basing ur basing ur args on that I won't agree.and its not bad to disagree :):)

[aniketranade]

Rank

13 Hon Hai Precision Industry (Taiwan)

18 Honda Motor Co Ltd (Japan)

19 Fujifilm Corp (Japan)

20 Hynix Semiconductor Inc (Japan)

So There You go buddy.......If you happen to crawl out of White Man's ass, you can hopefully see that the World is passing them by...:))

[pratindian]

@aniketranade . not all indians in NASA r doing inventions and not all american as well.You should know a basic thing that they need highly qualified persons to handle equipments as well in such scientific orgs.

Similarly if Intel and IBM decide that they are getting cheap labour in manila they ll shft from banglore.and 28%indian figure might become 28% filipino.there is nothing for which they rely on us. this analysis is also not relevant to discussion but u shud know bitter realities as well.

[aniketranade]

@pratindian India was one of the Top5 countries in the World in the field of Solar energy in 2010......there you go...LOSER!!!

[aniketranade]

@pratindian HEY DID YOU NOTICE THAT HE COMPLETELY FORGOT THE YELLOW RACE COUNTRIES...WHICH ARE LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF THE WORLD.....WONDER WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.....I LIKE MR NISAR TOO....BUT YOUR ATTEMPT TO DEFEND HIM HERE IS PATHETIC!!

[pratindian]

@aniketranade First thing i don't like mr. nisar but i like what he said. They 'might have been' lights of year ahead. we recognize china for gun powder and printing press in terms of the type of contribution being talked here.'Something original'. if u have that type of example then we can debate.what 28% indians are doing at IBM can be done by people of any nationality. yes you can think of "Raman effect", "Bosons" and similar indian contributions but how many??

[aniketranade]

@pratindian Whats your definition of 'Something original'?? Are u sure ur a science student??

Do u think TV is 'original' invention...but plasma screen or HD TV is not 'original'??

Is 'Windows' by Microsoft not a modern invention?? Or the 3G Spectrum technology for Mobiles?

What do u call all these modern inventions??...And if they are 'original' enough for u,...how do u measure/quantify these inventions?

A good way is to see the number of PATENTS being filed!!

[pratindian]

@aniketranade .Well, having accepted the fact that all these r modern inventions how many of them r frm us? hw many PATENTS we really got? We struggeled a lot for turmeric and lost basmati , and filed for neem. is tht wht u call original invention?wht is our contribution in windows? or in any OS or in any technology for tht sake. just tht we understand and work on it better.but its still invented by someone else.untill u accept this u ll keep thinking that u r doing grt but actually u r not.

[aniketranade]

@pratindian Who says we are on par with the developed nations?? Mr. Nisar is commenting on contribution of the Islamic countries in the science and technology field. And their track record, the super rich countries is pathetic. In contrast, India has managed to develop a solid educational system and keep pace with the World even while battling constantly with economic and Security problems. What say?

[pratindian]

@aniketranade oooppss ..I give up... you are talking something which is correct but completly different from the context. its not developed nation versus developing one or growth of nation or economical or social problem ..We are doing so many good things..but its all based on the knowledge and technology that we have acquired from west.There is little for which west is following us.becauz modern civilization is based on the things invented by west, our conribution in 'inventions' is little.

[prabhatpalpal]

@aniketranade what ORIGINAL THING have we contributed?

[aniketranade]

@prabhatpalpal Sorry boss...i think enough people agree with me here....so I have stoped wasting my time arguing with retards...:))

[prabhatpalpal]

@aniketranade There are enough retards in the country to agree with you.

[aniketranade]

@prabhatpalpal except you...I wonder how I didnt connect with the biggest one!...LOL

[prabhatpalpal]

@aniketranade yeah, keep being proud to be employed in companies which were created and are rooted in someone else's ideas and keep calling it your achievement.

[aniketranade]

@prabhatpalpal Im self employed actually...but nice try....LOL

MORON!....Hahahahahahahahahaha

[prabhatpalpal]

@aniketranade I was talking about you comment about IBM INTEL NASA MICROSOFT, and you have called me a moron and a retard without knowing who I am. Be careful, "self employed" man, don't be such a foul mouth.

[amitshah511]

LMAO...these two guys seem stoned. Especially the bald guy wearing the sunglasses.

[Koytagi]

The two boys interviewing seem totally out of their depth ......

[shargaurav]

The pentium chip on which you guys are seeing this video was invented by a Hindu. The science of economics, polical science sociology and management was started by Hindus. The number system including zero(0) which the entire world is using today including arabia and europe was given by hindus. There are so many things ...what the hell Mr Nissar speaking about. I agree dat muslims have not contributed and I think thet compulsively he has not blamed muslims alone else it would be blasphemy in Pak.

[faziljaved]

@shargaurav muslims invented chemistry (alchemia in arabic) muslims invented algebra (aljabr wal muqabla in arabic and its true name) but i admit its long time ago. muslims havent invented in the recent past. but i must say one thing without the two things i mentioned above no pentium chip could have been invented. and also other things you mentioned

[MegaTricky]

Hi,

I appreciate Hasan Nisar for his in depth analysis meanings of words and what he thinks about our society (India and Pakistan both). Its true that people in subcontinent fails innovate anything from last 2000 years which is resulted in fall.

[salmanhasan71]

He is absolutely correct. All our Army Generals, Politicians, Religious leaders are corrupt. They have ruined Pakistan in different times historically. They have not yet even decided what our national goals and objectives are going to be which are agreeable to all four provinces. In my opinion by keeping the federation intact on the basis of force, is not a federation in my opinion. Its a fraud. Even Bangladesh is higher in growth and economy than Pakistan. Did we achieve anything in 60+ years?

[konstantinople1]

Try to mark him. He is barking about today's modernized technology, and i think astrology homeopathy mahematics are not innovations or modern technolgy.

[konstantinople1]

IT has been invented by hindus? Very goos but since when? Small call centers and a use of c plus,,,,some others machine language and selliing it wroth half price is not a invention.

[mjben0407]

i love Hasan Nisar sahib..but i wanna correct him that hindus invented Math, Astrology, Plastic sugery, Homeopathy, Yoga etc..

there is long list of items that this world got from India.. not to mention the modern inventions in IT..

regards

[anyonelala]

@mjben0407

hindus didnt invent anything except for ganesh ki murti.

get over it now u doucebag!

[mjben0407]

@anyonelala

Your language shows your class dear muslim fella from pakistsan

And FYI I m not a Hindu

[prakash10284]

@anyonelala

I can give you list of inventions

1)wireless technology you use was found by jagdish chandra bose.

2)Also he has created new theory with bose einstein condensate

3)Also this atleast know about CV raman effect.

If this guy if journalist how the fuck will he know about science.

Saale sab paki anpad hain.

[prakash10284]

@prakash10284

Or just you guy are so proud of using email services.

First email services through web was Hotmail by sabeer bhatia....



[spylucky07]

@anyonelala ..dick head ...zero was invented by hindus, trignometry, alzebra. was invented by hindus..the modern science is based on these things.

[anyonelala]

@spylucky07 ugly little indian u r right zero(nothing) was invented by hindus..

now go and lick some ganesh balls ugly filthy little creatures!

[spylucky07]

@anyonelala ..YOU FUCKING PEDOPHILE FOLLOWER, WHO TAUGHT YOU HOW TO FUCK A SIX YEAR OLD GIRL, YOU FILTHY UGLY MUSLIM MOTHERFUCKER.I PISS ON MACCA EVERY DAY.

[faziljaved]

@spylucky07 hay algebra and chemistry was invented by muslims. get your facts straight and study a bit. you are totally wrong about it. the real name of algebra is "aljabr wal muqabla" in arabic. what are you talking about. trignometry was also by the muslims. you are totally bull shitting

[systematic91]

he said Wise ppl cant born in pakistan becuz of the environment....Wat about All the prophets we had..Including our PYare HAzrat MUHammad (SAW)...when they born...the environment was worst than wat it is rite now...ppl burried their daurghters alive...slavery was a common thing and etcc....

[smodass]

@systematic91 But the Muhammad (SAW) was the last prophet, so there is not chance of another one coming in Pakistan. So Nisar sahab is right that Wise people cannot be born in Pakistan due to its present environment.

[showingthetruth]

@smodass muhammed was a prophet from the abrahamic faith,definitely not the last maybe the last from the abrahamic faith,bcoz the quran was interepreted by humans,after the death of muhammed and misinterpereted,thas y islam is screwed up look at the result 2 day!

[pratindian]

@smodass ha ha ..but i have heard that some people are following a new prophet in your country and you people call them qadayani or something similar.To your regret they are among the most talented and sensible people in pakistan or in whole muslim world rather.

[aniketranade]

@pratindian HEY BTW...Any guesses on which WESTERN companies make the list of Top 20??

1. INTEL

2. MICROSOFT

3.IBM

But im sure Indians have nothing to do with it.....since we are just cheap labour....:))

[pratindian]

@aniketranade I think you are referring these companies to argue that because of such a high percentage of indian people thr they r in list of 'Top 20'. Lol ! that maybe true.but th was nt discussion at all.

See , if we understand and know exactly what we r doing and how we are progressing then only we can keep progressing d time you started misunderstanding things ,you ll start doing things wrong. that is same problem with pakistanis these day n we must nt hv tht.

[smodass]

@pratindian I admire the qadianis....but i am not sure what your point is .

[pratindian]

@smodass My point was you are giving two different reasons for not wise people not being born in pak, one is concept of last massiha and another is its present env. u mixed both strangely though. but wise man are there in them (qadianis )and they re redefining concept of last prophet. so its a wrong conclusion that u have drawn.

[smodass]

@pratindian The last messiah and the present env are connected, IMO. Since no one can come close to the last messiah, the present day people are grasping at straws to figure out what he actually meant to say...this leads Mullahs to propagate the least common denominator, leading to the present day chaos. Hope that makes sense.

[pratindian]

@smodass hmmm...If I am understanding correctly then ypu are saying that Mullah getting it hard to understand or explain or make an agreement among themselves on issue of words of Prophet. If its correct then its a dangerous situation and I'd say against the will of Allah as well. isn't it???

[Revoltification]

A-o-A to all of you,

sub bohet acha critisize kr lete hen, koi ye is pehlu pe nazar met dalan k agla kehna kya cha raha he. to all of you dears its the wake-up call for the whole nation

that just getup from ur beds and see what the hellur rulers are doing with you

dont look that what the hell a simple civilian is doing and saying just try understand the theme.

OTHERWISE

TUMHARI DASTAAN TAK BI NA HO GI DASTAANO MEE

[mafiaguyzxxx]

anybody knows the name of the street talk show mani used to do????please if u know let me know..don't remember the channel it used to air on..

[burraak1]

the most unsatisfied bastard someone can ever see. I bet he definitely criticized why he came to earth though her moms vagina, Mr.hassan nisar give us the name of single country where no crime happens, asshole

[olebaj]

@burraak1

why don't you look at it objectively bro. one can learn from mistakes but if one tries to sweep those under the carpet and deny it then you are bound to be a failure.

[sameeee1]

hasan nisar is person who used to depress people.he never encourage people instead say this is wrong that is wrong pakistani nation is bad.I think every nahation is bad for a certain period of time then they refine their selves and became great nation.he should give people hope instead of giving them a thought that this nation and country is bad and is ka kuch nahi ho ga..

[karachien]

@sameeee1 soory dude totally disagreed with u agar wo hamari galtiyan dhaka raha ha its means he n other ppls like him trying to correct us ... try to come out from fools heaven ... yar khud dhakoo as waqth suger nahi ha kaha petrol pohonch gaya .. matlab WTF is this yar hum log awam han yar samjhoo yar .. am sory yar if i contidict u but am trying to tell u jis nay hamaray lia kuch kia hum ny kia like qadeer khan .. ab tu soochoo meray bahi

[khakistan]

Hindustanir r now more developed, they develops a lots of softwires & many scientists & managers are working all over the world.

[pisces1972able]

the way he said that  Y UR HIRING A LAWYER BETTER U HIRE THE JUDGE TO MAKE THE DECISION TO PUT THE BALL IN UR COURT

[benshehzad]

encrachment by every one is our culture !!!! hahahahahhaa so true

[benshehzad]

ZULM means illegitimate use of resources and power!!!! good!!!!! that is very deep and philosophical man!!!!

[benshehzad]

no thinkers philosophers in our society. No visionaries. all inventions have no input from us brown species/races,. that is true!!!!!

[benshehzad]

false witnesses in courts-- that is so true guys I have personal experince of this. there is no difference between truth and falses. Nawaz sharif hijakcers???????? that was shitty make over guys

[raqib56]

" by far the greatest part of my life has been spent in preaching loyalty to the

British Government. I have written so many books denouncing Jehad and preaching loyalty to Govt. (British), and

I have published so many handbills, that they would fill fifty almirahs if put togeether.... " Mirza Ghulam of Qadian taryaq-ul-Qulub p.15 Harami British Colonial zurriat of fanatics

and extremists religious sect who is anti-muslims, anti-Christians and anti-jews. CIA agents.

[raqib56]

loveable baby for Impostors sect,

he might claim Mehdihood, attention !!

Qadianis like him very much