Ernie Ball Musicman S.U.B.

[Koreanflow]

What is the song in the beginning?

[masbeni]

@Koreanflow my song ^^ 자작곡요

[youknowyourrite1]

if this is passive it actually sounds pretty hot and closer to normal MM sound. and people were acting like the passives didn't sound like that at all at places like talkbass

[runninonempiy]

@youknowyourrite1 TALKBASS SUCKS ASS!!!

[stratojb]

Before seeing this video thought I was an incompetent, there's still hope for me

[supertarantinooo]

wow its s nice bass ,

[ef58jnr]

Hey thanks!

It sounds very like my Stingray (1986)...

[celloarieta1]

One finger like a Geddy Lee!!! you correct!!!

[artfxl5]

I could not afford a Musicman and I found an old Peavey T-45 and I can match the sound of the bass in this video with it.

[bassdiegofloyd]

ESO NO SE TOCA AHI

[Spooke714]

Wish I could afford a Musicman...

[brettt015]

i hav the same bass its no longer being made mine i got for $500 off ebay can sell for $1200 :P

[GigReady]

2 fingers not 1....tell that to James Jamerson (if he were still alive) or Geddy Lee. There are many times when 1 finger is acceptable and all you need.

[mattat85]

You don't need to use 2 fingers. Jamerson only used one. Look where that got him.

[TwiceasKoolasYou]

Whats the name of the song?

[Kadandendie]

name of the song?

very funky!

[manning6680]

Not All Sub basses had an active preamp!!!

some of them where passive, with a £$50 less price tag.

[bill0w]

I have one. They have a Battery. Battery = active.

[beastahhboy]

hey mostly playing with his pointer finer u need to use your middle finger 2

[daLom]

sub do sound alot like stingrays, though they are usually a "recording" instrument, not a "performing" one...

for example the sub has no body shapings, therefor has a little more wood to make tone of, but it's really heavy to carry around your neck over a long shows evening...

i own a 5 string sub myself

oh and, of course these are active basses lol ... we don't want anything near fender sound in here ;)

[kraken1oti]

@daLom The "sub" is a passive bass and the "sub bass" is active. I own the passive one :)

[daLom]

@kraken1oti i tried to find out more about these passive subs ... they seem to be quite old and i can only find them used ... also the prices were like ~200€ ... and my active sub 5 was 1000€ (new instrument bought in 2006) ... so whatever the difference is except passive/active ... the active sub model is much more like a real stingray while the older passive model is more like OLP

imho musicman is supposed to be active ... as i mentioned earlier, for passive situation theres a JB ;)

[kraken1oti]

@daLom i agree with you on that. I don't really like my passive bass i really want an active one but it's a musicman nonetheless and it still has a good tone especially in the studio i was pretty impressed with it.

[scarred2112]

@daLom I wouldn't compare the passive SUB Basses as anything close to the OLP "knockoffs". The only difference between the Active & Passive SUBs is that the Active models have a 2-band preamp added that was voiced like the "original" pre-1984 preamp redesign rather than current basses and a Battery Box. I also know a good deal of SR players that prefer the older passive models - both have their own sound. I just got scored a near-mint passive SUB 5, and can always install a preamp if want.

[daLom]

@scarred2112 thanks for sharing your knowledge

[scarred2112]

@kraken1oti There's actually no difference between the "S.U.B." & "SUB" instruments: EBMM simple changed it in marketing from S.U.B. (an acronym for "Sport Utility Bass") to "SUB" (a word that sounded the same and people would still recognize). This was because "S.U.B." said "Bass" twice and didn't make *any* sense regarding the S.U.B. 1 & 2 Guitars while "SUB" eliminated those issues and still conveyed the midrange nature of the line...

[scarred2112]

@kraken1oti ..the only difference between the Active & Passive SUB 4 and 5s was that the Actives have a 2-band preamp added that was voiced like the "original" pre-1984 preamp redesign rather than current basses, and that SUB Sterlings have a 3-band voiced like older 3-band preamps , There are no other differences except that Actives have a Battery Box. I own a SUB Sterling and just got a steal of a Passive SUB 5, and am interested in how the Passive EQ sounds as I'm an "active" guy. :-)

[bassman20ful]

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[beastahhboy]

2 fingers!!! not 1

[masbeni]

right sir! thanks ^^

[abmt55]

why only 2?

[pudgychef]

@beastahhboy  - One finger seemed to work pretty well for James Jamerson on all those Motown tracks....

[pudgychef]

@beastahhboy- yeah like the others said...tell that to Jamerson....

[pudgychef]

@beastahhboy although 1 finger worked pretty well for Jamerson....:)

[sungtongs]

@beastahhboy

Jamerson played with one finger

[emborizate]

Hey nice video, I think I have the same model of bass guitar as you.

Your bass is passive, right?

[masbeni]

i think so... kinda forgot ^^

[DiamondUrine]

I believe the SUB line had an active preamp. At least the S.U.B. X02 does.

[HeadBanqerkid]

@emborizate

when this bass would be active, there would be a black thing on the back of the bass where you put the batteries in

[Catastrophe202]

@emborizate as far as i know all stingrays are active

[Dpolehonski]

@emborizate I have that model and mines active pickups.

[IplayMusic2]

Hi. Cool video. You have your low string tuned to A. Is that how these basses are supposed to be tuned? Just wondering, I have one and I want to make sure it's tuned properly. Thanks for any help.

[masbeni]

the low string is E

This is standard tuning E A D G

[IplayMusic2]

Oh, you must be fretting on the 5th fret of the E, okay Thanks, it sounded open to me.

[SuperZemanel]

warwick streamer!!! doesn´t get better than that!!!

[funkadelic1992]

I got myself a real stingray. nothing better

[jjl5590]

get a modulus then

[SOUNDBOYMIKE]

im proud to own a mod:)

[manning6680]

It will sounds much more pleasing if you play nearer to the pick-up. :)

[fakdol]

i think that pickup is cald bassline pickup

[fleaargento]

it sounds better playing nearer the bridge

[piledriver89]

whats the difference between an s.u.b and a regular stingray?

[javafinger]

like far man! u can see it from the material

[turbanwarriorz]

SUB was made for a cheaper market than the stingray.

Musicman made a statement that it was possible to make a really good quality (pro-level) instrument for cheap. They did this with the SUB's.

They are made in the same factory, in the USA, probably by the same hands.

The SUB's use poplar wood which is slightly less expensive - but sounds good, as you can hear. It however does not have as nice wood grain as the swamp ash used in the stingrays, and are therefore painted solid colours.

[aderemi1234]

What kind of pickup is on that guitar?

[TimmyD045]

MM soapbox

[Justinmcn]

I've played all sorts of ernie ball's, didn't care for 'em.

[masbeni]

then how can you get to this video

[Justinmcn]

i don't know, i was looking at claypool and then it lead to this.

[Ramone315]

Were is it made does anyone Know?

[masbeni]

it was made in US

but they dont make this anymore

[bladesaint21]

SanLouis Obispo Cali not far from where Fender Makes there's They were once owned by Fender but sold to Ernie Ball in '80. The pre '*0 stingRays are more valued but Ernie Balls are still hot basses!

[elzafi0]

So?

[coosomo]

can you give us the tabs to this riff please?

[worldwideprophet]

made my windows rattle

[fishfan67]

what's the difference between a musicman SUB and a musicman USA stingray?

[RhcpNico]

A sub bass is not as expensive as the stingray the stingray is a bit better. But the SUB is also very good! ( I have one! ) please see my video's and rate and comment them! thx

[lilfili123]

how much was it??

[RhcpNico]

<i bought it for 1000 € but it actually costs 1200€ (around) 1000-1200€

[goddamfuckingcats]

there basically the same bass the main difference is the stingray has a 3 band EQ and the S.U.B has only a 2 band EQ

[Bygde]

The Stingray can have a 2-band as well. I think the difference is lack of options (basically only colours or fretted/fretless were available), cheaper wood/parts, and maybe cheaper labour (produced in other countries, although i doubt it)

[mulletpbass]

not 100% sure but MM SUB is Poplar body.

I haven't played one but seems to be a good bass yet not expensive.

[BountyHunter233]

i have a vintage repliaca and it plays just as good as the real thing but its really cheap

[BountyHunter233]

Are you low?

[Zelos2210]

/facepalm

[kasthebass]

musicman stingray is good. SUB basses arent that good. you should better buy another bass for that (800euro) amount of money. Ibanez ATK is nice alternative. So is G&L L2000 tribute

[SuperZemanel]

totally agree

[MrJPWannabe]

If you want to get more useful sounds out of that bass, may I suggest that you don't max out the EQ? It seems like that's the best thing to do, I guess, but there are so many more sounds than just open and closed, and a little goes a long way.

[samjames2007]

If that's the sound he likes then leave him be

[Zombbg4]

i don't think he knows whar sound he likes

[scatman44]

I have two P basses, a Yamaha RBX and a MMSUB. The SUB was bought last. It is an ABSOLUTE FUNK MACHINE!!!!!! I wanted a Musicman under 1G, and I got one. I put Fender Black Nylons and it is the real deal (the reg strings were good, too!). Got a feeling 20 years from now, this is gonna be one hot collector's item!

[bagazfunk]

maen opooooo

[masbeni]

banyak omong nih

ajarin pls

[WeirdDrAil]

obok fwalki moknas! olo got, wi kana quoples

[malatakiraly88]

aadsfgjng, gdnlavmx,vnajg adfjg?

[funkadelic1992]

same as stingray

[Benayrsty]

you arent a bass player are you? i can tell.

[masbeni]

learning to be one ^^

[chaz4510]

raise the action a bit, would sound better

[cbyrd2200]

Yeah. That and when you learn to slap, the strings won't hit the neck making kind of an annoying clicking sound.

[Anjohl]

I demoed one today..I think this is a good bass for a beginner, but it's definitely not really an intermediate/professional level instrument.

Don't label me as a "hater", I have a fender bass on order currently, but I definitely aspire to own a stingray within the next year, but this bass doens't quite cut it. For it's price, it's amazing, but don't let the "American Made" tag make you think it's better than it is.

[zunar1]

What do you mean by a instrument for beginner?

[Anjohl]

A good bass for a first bass,its not made in a sweat swop, it has a nice neck (Except for the paint) but the overall bass isn't as good as the standard fenders, which are a little cheaper.

[xHighPotencyx]

There's no such thing as a "beginner" Musicman....

[Anjohl]

There is when it's made to be an entry level guitar. If you are paying $700 for an US made guitar, vs $700 for a mexican built, which one is likely to be better? With labor standards in USA, the $700 american made guitar's price is inflated big time.

And as I said, i demoed one, and it has NOTHING on the Stingray of the Jazz or Precision. If you really need an American made instrument and don't mind some very low output pickups and a slow painted neck, it's not a terrible bass I guess.

[manning6680]

Yeah true!

[manning6680]

Your very much wrong.

This is a pro instrument.

[illapelit]

what is the song at de start of the video?

[masbeni]

my song ^^

[UnderTheBridge67]

wow i got this exact thing! not bad for 480$!

(got it used) sounds amazing!

[luisbass86]

bass = very nice

musician = ????

[masbeni]

musician = sucks! ㅋㅋㅋ

[guitarist993]

I have one of those!!!

[michaeljesusworshipe]

i have a sting ray

[howardspring1989]

me too lush aint they ;).

i want a stringray 5 tho hahaha the bottom end b is like ahhhhh my faacee just fell off haha. niiiicee

[michaeljesusworshipe]

yea but a sterling might be my next maybe or maybe a peavy cirrus those are nice im not a peavy person but this one i like

[folsomia]

Just bought one but haven´t gotten it yet since a friend piced it up for me. Looking forward to it.

I think the song sounds lik "Rio Funk" without the slapping/popping.

[bagazfunk]

sucks

[SebModulus]

What's the song you're playing?

[funkadelic1992]

i have a fretless sub, good bass,

[coflordabortion]

what song or whatever are you playing?

[andver2000]

The ernie ball musicman I saw the other day was 1300...It sounds so good.

[masbeni]

that might be stingray

[awdpl144]

how much is a Musicman SUB? i know they were discontinued and i found one for 500 dollers at a local store...is that a good deal?

[maxern]

compared to norway yes.. hah

[itshimkevinkim]

thats a pretty good deal considering a new one would've cost you about 6-700$

[whatDIYisabout]

Fuckin' deal, pal :)

[diarcy46]

i just bought a sub5..

great, great, bass..

[71bassg]

i got sub in the uk for under 400 pounds absolute bargain! and it says on musicman forumn somewhere they stopped making them cause they werent making any money on them, as they werent prepared to buy in inferior parts from china there loss was our gain cheers musicman

[tannabyss]

gay rare

[iplaybass77]

well boring

[masbeni]

yes! hahaha

[markallenkellner]

Sounds the same, just not as pretty, and the bass is brand new.

[markallenkellner]

I'm pretty sure I got the last SUB here in Winnipeg ($850 Cdn. and woth every penny)

[masbeni]

u can get used stingray at that price, tho

anyway enjoy the bass!

[markallenkellner]

I just bought one today and I love it!

[masbeni]

sweet!

[bax4life]

just the same humbucker, except the wood finish is 'less'.

[hellsSG]

its the same hubucker on SUB as on the real stingray right? cause on music mans website it sais that the pickup on sub is called music man humbucking. and so does it say on stingray. anyone know if it is the same?

[gincfh]

yes these basses r the nuts i have the sub 5 it rocks

[FuckTaylor]

uhhh. cool. lol

[Afrocubanngger]

i like how u use ur thumb pretty sweet

[bassbreaker]

I love my SUB, and now that there not making any more makes it all the more better lol ;) who knows maybe thell over make necks again, but its a perfect bass, INSANE tone, great neck (stingray neck), and all at a low low price of (insert price you bought here mine was 850 canadian) lol now it sounds like an add

[bigdaz101]

I have a Musicman too mate, and i was wondering if you knew where i could buy a new scratch plate because yours looks nice.

[masbeni]

what kind of bass do u have?

this is original scratch plate made for sub bass

i know someone who can make scratch plate

maybe you can find some luthier who can make it

good luck

[musicmanlover]

is it a song?

[masbeni]

no...

[blinkbassest]

that first sound is like exactly what i want but i can't get it with my squire

[masbeni]

maybe, different pickups tho

sub has humbucker, while squier single coil

[keary1245]

thank god i got my SUB

too bad they dont make em anymore there a great series

[bigbosswest]

they have , i got the 2nd to last one from the shop brand new yesterday. last shipment was in november last year i belive...

[bigbosswest]

i just got me one of them !!

[masbeni]

sweet, new or used?

i heard musicman has stopped the production of s.u.b.

[bassmasternick]

Unfortunately, it's true, Ernie Ball has discontinued production of the Music Man S.U.B. bass. This was made official back in September of 2006.

[sionit]

heheh guitarist turned bassist

[adamszekely]

Ohhh what a beautiful musicman sound!!! I want it I need it I will buy it :D :D

[groovyw53]

not bad but a little boring. just play something different

[bagazfunk]

mas,kok gitu2 aja..?? keluarin donk skillnya. hehehe