It's great to see and hear a reporter like Andrew Bolt being so vocal about the AGW hype.
It is so clear to me that the Australian media have been infiltrated with environmental-activists who are only reporting one-sided views on the man made climate change hype.
Attention to the CEO'S of free to air and pay tv services: Assess and review all reporters with one-sided opinions concerning AGW! You should reconsider their contracts very carefully.
@truemonolith seriously, did you take the time to read the emails? after 500 or so there is only one conclusion that they are not trying to argue what is causing global warming but trying to find ways to convince us that CO2 is the culprit. as Rex murphy said here in Canada on CBC "Read the emails! you'll never look at climate science the same way again"
@MrXstacey Yes i have read a large chunk of the emails. I found the chain from Tom Wrigley to Tenbereth quite amusing.
I dont think you've read the emails though, because theres only 1 chain of emails that follows the c02 line (and that is tenberth bemoaning that there is more c02 in the troposphere than in the stratosphere).
@truemonolith ah, herein lies the rub. I am not qualified to argue the amounts of each atmospheric level, it's the UN that tells us we have to pay for CO2 emissions. Carbon trading will not do anything to divert the real issues it will just make bankers happier. There are so many more toxins emitted in our atmosphere that it's embarrassing that people don't get that it's pollution that is the problem and that carbon taxing is not the answer. it's not the scientists I mock so much as the UNFCCC.
@MrXstacey The UN isnt involved with carbon credit schemes. Those are to be set up by countries. I dont think you actually know what's going on with regards to the climate, and what countries want to do about it at all do you?
@ash4432 I don't blame the scientists, if the cronies at the UN asked me to work for them at the CRU with the billions of dollars given to them by the taxpayers, I'd be inclined to prove any theory they wished me to prove. Problem is, the question was never really "what is causing global warming?" Even Roger Revelle the grandfather of global warming apologized that his research sent so many people in the wrong direction on global warming. Put an RPM meter on his grave, I bet he's spinning now.
@MrXstacey You're denying the consensus of virtually the entire community of climatologists because of some Fox News headline? As you stated in your PM "I feel this global warming bullshit is just another screen to a bigger agenda recently exposed." Oh really? Where's the evidence?
It's funny... the first people to shout "closed minded!" are conspiracy theorists, but you're the most closed minded people there are. You'll believe whatever your paranoid delusions (and Alex Jones) tell you.
@australianews according to the top 10 natural disasters on Wikipedia, that disaster in Haiti is the bottom of the top 10 list. If things are getting "progressively worse" why was this not number one?
@australianews I am listening to science and all sides at that, hence why I am on this page having these discussions, I've never considered myself a troll. you are breaking records in Australia since the time that measurements have taken place, not the beginning of time. I have never heard of a year when some records were not broken. Could the glaciers be melting from the sheen of mercury that coats them? Post Glacial rebound? Solar radiation that forms cloud formation? In the end, Earth wins.
@Leehofooks can you give me a list of the certified climatologists that back your claim? Please don't make me laugh by saying 2500 scientists of the IPCC's 4th assessment report where only 64 people had an opinion on the chapter of importance, 32 of which had financial motivation and of the remaining 32 only 4 voted that they believe in AGW? 4 out of 32 is not a majority so you should question the stats. Just to be clear I never received any money by oil companies vs BP funding the CRU
@MrXstacey "Two questions were key: Have mean global temperatures risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures? About 90 percent of the scientists agreed with the first question and 82 percent the second. The strongest consensus on the causes of global warming came from climatologists who are active in climate research, with 97 percent agreeing humans play a role." Surveyed Scientists Agree Global Warming is Real, CNN
@Leehofooks depends how pre-1800 you go back, go back to 800AD, if you exclude the fact that the earth has been this warm before then the point is skewed to suit a purpose. Do you deny the medieval warm period? and did human's cause it back then? in answer to your 1st question, as stated, I agree. the 2nd is subjective as it does not mention the CO2 that is blamed as being the issue. Did we cause it? I dunno, did CO2 cause it, not a chance.
@MrXstacey "Do you deny the medieval warm period?" No, jackass. Of course the earth has had warming and cooling periods before. But the so-called "medievel warm period" mostly took place in the North Atlantic and didn't effect the global temperature as much as warming is today, and the evidence for the current one points to an anthropogenic cause. Do you ever do any real research? "Did CO2 cause it, not a chance" becaaaause... you say so?
@Leehofooks google IPCC PEER REVIEW PROCESS AN ILLUSION but seeing you are likely to dismiss anything associated with SPPI as BS, another report by Mike Hulme and Martin Mahony of U of East Anglia "Claims such as ‘2,500 of the world’s leading scientists have reached a consensus that human activities are having a significant influence on the climate’ are disingenuous...That particular consensus...is reached by only a few dozen experts..." google Climate Change: what do we know about the IPCC?
@MrXstacey I didn't give you a "disingenuous" list. I gave you the results of a poll. You want disingenuous? Look at the lists of scientists who deny global warming.
@Leehofooks I'm denying that if hired to prove that humans are the cause as a purpose of scientific exploration, it might be a matter of losing my job if I objected. I read at least half of the climate gate emails, Im disgusted that this is the premise of how they think. Had the question been "are humans causing climate change" vs "Please help us prove that humans are causing climate change" people are easily bought, with the UN's almost unlimited budget, you should expect anything
@MrXstacey Alleging a motive is not evidence. I could say that the government had good reason to fake the moon landing (propaganda during the cold war) or kill Kennedy (JFK was for Civil Rights, and segregation keeps the people divided and easy to control) or cause 9/11 (an excuse to go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq). But none of this is evidence. You see my point?
@Leehofooks point taken, although when investigating a crime one does tend to look for motive. (on the JFK thing, I argue it was because he was about to sign executive order 11110, although I do find it ironic that as many times as they wanted to assassinate Castro, he was the one who got assassinated.)
@MrXstacey "point taken" Apparently it wasn't. You still haven't offered any evidence. "There is no real money in dissent." Look up "Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil’s Tobacco-like Disinformation Campaign on Global Warming Science."
I dismiss Fox news as much as I do CNN and MSNBC. I am neither democrat or republican. Obama, Maurice Strong, and Al Gore key are players in on Chicago Climate Exchange. Carbon taxing will kill the economy cuz the money will NOT go back to the people who paid it, it will go to globalists. Europe has played with this market and the results have been criminal /watch?v=oL-e33oaI94 I am not against climatologists, I'm "against paid" for climatologists. there is no real money in dissent.
they were. andrew bolt is a fucking legend
stevieg817 1 year ago
It's great to see and hear a reporter like Andrew Bolt being so vocal about the AGW hype.
It is so clear to me that the Australian media have been infiltrated with environmental-activists who are only reporting one-sided views on the man made climate change hype.
Attention to the CEO'S of free to air and pay tv services: Assess and review all reporters with one-sided opinions concerning AGW! You should reconsider their contracts very carefully.
MRMILO57 2 years ago
MrXstacey....it turned out after investigations that they werent cooked books.
truemonolith 2 years ago
@truemonolith Oh yeah, that one day trial. uh huh.
MrXstacey 1 year ago 3
@MrXstacey It only takes 1 day once you remove the lies involved behind the accusation.
truemonolith 1 year ago
@truemonolith seriously, did you take the time to read the emails? after 500 or so there is only one conclusion that they are not trying to argue what is causing global warming but trying to find ways to convince us that CO2 is the culprit. as Rex murphy said here in Canada on CBC "Read the emails! you'll never look at climate science the same way again"
MrXstacey 1 year ago
@MrXstacey Yes i have read a large chunk of the emails. I found the chain from Tom Wrigley to Tenbereth quite amusing.
I dont think you've read the emails though, because theres only 1 chain of emails that follows the c02 line (and that is tenberth bemoaning that there is more c02 in the troposphere than in the stratosphere).
truemonolith 1 year ago
@truemonolith ah, herein lies the rub. I am not qualified to argue the amounts of each atmospheric level, it's the UN that tells us we have to pay for CO2 emissions. Carbon trading will not do anything to divert the real issues it will just make bankers happier. There are so many more toxins emitted in our atmosphere that it's embarrassing that people don't get that it's pollution that is the problem and that carbon taxing is not the answer. it's not the scientists I mock so much as the UNFCCC.
MrXstacey 1 year ago
@MrXstacey The UN isnt involved with carbon credit schemes. Those are to be set up by countries. I dont think you actually know what's going on with regards to the climate, and what countries want to do about it at all do you?
truemonolith 1 year ago
its not cooked just a bunch of sckptics looking to support there view.
ash4432 2 years ago
@ash4432 I don't blame the scientists, if the cronies at the UN asked me to work for them at the CRU with the billions of dollars given to them by the taxpayers, I'd be inclined to prove any theory they wished me to prove. Problem is, the question was never really "what is causing global warming?" Even Roger Revelle the grandfather of global warming apologized that his research sent so many people in the wrong direction on global warming. Put an RPM meter on his grave, I bet he's spinning now.
MrXstacey 1 year ago
Considering the implications to the people of the earth based on their cooked books, I'd say he's lucky it's only threats he's receiving.
MrXstacey 2 years ago
@MrXstacey Maybe you should watch more videos on this channel.
Leehofooks 1 year ago
@Leehofooks ummmmmm maybe you should watch a few videos on my channel in return
MrXstacey 1 year ago 2
@MrXstacey Conspiracy theory nonsense? No thanks.
Leehofooks 1 year ago
@Leehofooks Just the closed minded response I expected.
MrXstacey 1 year ago 2
@MrXstacey You're denying the consensus of virtually the entire community of climatologists because of some Fox News headline? As you stated in your PM "I feel this global warming bullshit is just another screen to a bigger agenda recently exposed." Oh really? Where's the evidence?
It's funny... the first people to shout "closed minded!" are conspiracy theorists, but you're the most closed minded people there are. You'll believe whatever your paranoid delusions (and Alex Jones) tell you.
Leehofooks 1 year ago
@Leehofooks MrXstacey and people like him need to listen
to what the scientists are saying and match it up with whats happening.
All predictions made by science in australia and what would happen in the future
is coming true.
More hotter days over 40 .Less rain in wet states. More rain in the dry states.
Longer Drought. All these things have come true for Australia
We are breaking records in all these areas. Australia is living what science predicted. is it luck? i think not.
australianews 1 year ago
@australianews according to the top 10 natural disasters on Wikipedia, that disaster in Haiti is the bottom of the top 10 list. If things are getting "progressively worse" why was this not number one?
MrXstacey 1 year ago
@MrXstacey Because you're getting your information from Wikipedia and "worst" is a subjective term.
Leehofooks 1 year ago
@Leehofooks I'll agree that both the term "worst" and wikipedia itself could be considered subjective.
MrXstacey 1 year ago
@australianews I am listening to science and all sides at that, hence why I am on this page having these discussions, I've never considered myself a troll. you are breaking records in Australia since the time that measurements have taken place, not the beginning of time. I have never heard of a year when some records were not broken. Could the glaciers be melting from the sheen of mercury that coats them? Post Glacial rebound? Solar radiation that forms cloud formation? In the end, Earth wins.
MrXstacey 1 year ago
@Leehofooks can you give me a list of the certified climatologists that back your claim? Please don't make me laugh by saying 2500 scientists of the IPCC's 4th assessment report where only 64 people had an opinion on the chapter of importance, 32 of which had financial motivation and of the remaining 32 only 4 voted that they believe in AGW? 4 out of 32 is not a majority so you should question the stats. Just to be clear I never received any money by oil companies vs BP funding the CRU
MrXstacey 1 year ago
@MrXstacey "Two questions were key: Have mean global temperatures risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures? About 90 percent of the scientists agreed with the first question and 82 percent the second. The strongest consensus on the causes of global warming came from climatologists who are active in climate research, with 97 percent agreeing humans play a role." Surveyed Scientists Agree Global Warming is Real, CNN
Leehofooks 1 year ago
@Leehofooks depends how pre-1800 you go back, go back to 800AD, if you exclude the fact that the earth has been this warm before then the point is skewed to suit a purpose. Do you deny the medieval warm period? and did human's cause it back then? in answer to your 1st question, as stated, I agree. the 2nd is subjective as it does not mention the CO2 that is blamed as being the issue. Did we cause it? I dunno, did CO2 cause it, not a chance.
MrXstacey 1 year ago
@MrXstacey "Do you deny the medieval warm period?" No, jackass. Of course the earth has had warming and cooling periods before. But the so-called "medievel warm period" mostly took place in the North Atlantic and didn't effect the global temperature as much as warming is today, and the evidence for the current one points to an anthropogenic cause. Do you ever do any real research? "Did CO2 cause it, not a chance" becaaaause... you say so?
Leehofooks 1 year ago
@MrXstacey Can you cite a source for your 4 out of 32 statistic?
Leehofooks 1 year ago
@Leehofooks google IPCC PEER REVIEW PROCESS AN ILLUSION but seeing you are likely to dismiss anything associated with SPPI as BS, another report by Mike Hulme and Martin Mahony of U of East Anglia "Claims such as ‘2,500 of the world’s leading scientists have reached a consensus that human activities are having a significant influence on the climate’ are disingenuous...That particular consensus...is reached by only a few dozen experts..." google Climate Change: what do we know about the IPCC?
MrXstacey 1 year ago
@MrXstacey I didn't give you a "disingenuous" list. I gave you the results of a poll. You want disingenuous? Look at the lists of scientists who deny global warming.
Leehofooks 1 year ago
@Leehofooks I'm denying that if hired to prove that humans are the cause as a purpose of scientific exploration, it might be a matter of losing my job if I objected. I read at least half of the climate gate emails, Im disgusted that this is the premise of how they think. Had the question been "are humans causing climate change" vs "Please help us prove that humans are causing climate change" people are easily bought, with the UN's almost unlimited budget, you should expect anything
MrXstacey 1 year ago
@MrXstacey Alleging a motive is not evidence. I could say that the government had good reason to fake the moon landing (propaganda during the cold war) or kill Kennedy (JFK was for Civil Rights, and segregation keeps the people divided and easy to control) or cause 9/11 (an excuse to go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq). But none of this is evidence. You see my point?
Leehofooks 1 year ago
@Leehofooks point taken, although when investigating a crime one does tend to look for motive. (on the JFK thing, I argue it was because he was about to sign executive order 11110, although I do find it ironic that as many times as they wanted to assassinate Castro, he was the one who got assassinated.)
MrXstacey 1 year ago
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@MrXstacey "point taken" Apparently it wasn't. You still haven't offered any evidence. "There is no real money in dissent." Look up "Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil’s Tobacco-like Disinformation Campaign on Global Warming Science."
Leehofooks 1 year ago
I dismiss Fox news as much as I do CNN and MSNBC. I am neither democrat or republican. Obama, Maurice Strong, and Al Gore key are players in on Chicago Climate Exchange. Carbon taxing will kill the economy cuz the money will NOT go back to the people who paid it, it will go to globalists. Europe has played with this market and the results have been criminal /watch?v=oL-e33oaI94 I am not against climatologists, I'm "against paid" for climatologists. there is no real money in dissent.
MrXstacey 1 year ago