What if your dog for 2 years had only been trained to sit and down. And now that I'm teaching him to stand, he will just pull his butt from sit position. How can I correct this? thanks!
@ Carmen, okay, because if you notice in this video the dog is lured from beginning to end. Even at the end of the video you can see the guy putting food out and the dog is walking towards it.
So this video is great for starting the "stand" work but not for fading the food. I've asked two trainers about "stand" and neither goes to the next step. Naturally I could look for another trainer but I thought I would ask here.
My dog gets so eager when food is around that he now thinks "stand" means walk-to-where-the-food-hand-is. He is overly focused on the food and not thinking about what I am trying to communicate. We need to refine the lesson. As he stands I put a foot out and block him so he doesn't move forward.
He did learn "sit," "lie down" and other things quite well, but being on your feet promotes movement. This problem isn't addressed here.
Fading food prompts & food rewards is another phase in training, just as fading leash jerks and collar "corrections" is. No matter which is your training method, you can become dependent on your motivator (which it sounds like you did) if you don't know how to gradually reduce and replace its use. Find yourself a good, positive trainer to show you the next steps. Ian's lure-reward method seques beautifully to hand signals (no treat in hand), then reducing reward frequency.
"he only need to listen for the word" - while you're moving the food he wants? He's not listening to the word at all, he understands the guys moving his hand in the position the foods going in so recognises that more than the word. Trust me, I don't have to say a word to my dog to get him to sit, all he needs to know is his hand signal for "sit". Words are useless with dogs, use hand signals, much easier as demonstrated here, though this guy has it all wrong to what the dogs really listening to.
My dear, you really have to broaden your world and your views on animal training and psychology. You are however, partially correct, hand signals are a vital part of training and comunicating with animals. I train and use hunting dogs and I can tell you that they do know the sound of words. One of our drills is when we release a dog for a retrieve, we use their name. We will purposely use similar sounding words to fool them, they will not retrieve till their name is said. Then they blast off!
@PistabachiCalifornia: Well said. For ordinary day to day obedience, hand signals should really reinforce a verbal command, which is especially important when a dog is in an excitable state, where it is more likely to be fixating on something, and might not be in the right frame of mind to respond to a gesture. I question the use of a name as a release word though. Names should be for affection/reward. Better to use something like OK instead, but yes, trick them with similar sounding words :-)
The use of a dogs name as a release is very specific for retrieving dogs, I will explain. Say you are hunting with a buddy who also has a dog. Typically when game is shot, the dogs hold steady until released by a vocal command. What do you think would happen if we said "Fetch", thats right, both dogs would take off for the bird and all hell would break loose. The name release lets the dogs know who is to retrieve and who stays. Makes it black and white, hence the name trick so they learn to hold
@PistabachiCalifornia: Yes, I see the dilemma. I'm not a fan of using a dog's name for anything other than praise or to draw their attention... but I can see that having multiple dogs would make this difficult, particularly if it meant you had to teach them all unique commands, and keep that all in your head!
Now for me, I'd actually be happy if both my dogs took off for a fetch, rather than giving me the "fetch it yourself" look! :-)
LOL! What this shows us is that dogs may understand more then we think. If we are'nt hunting or doing drills, he responds to his name like a typical trained dog. He must process vocal, hand signals and also whistle commands, all of which may mean the same thing, but are presented to him differently. I can say sit, or I can give him the hand signal, or a single blast of the whistle, any one of which produce the same results, he sits. This also goes for several other commands. Lots of time put in!
My uncle got a Pug but not a French Pug, well all dogs are special :)
TheCasti96 1 month ago
I took my dog to a training class but I was forgot how to teach Stand and Stay,this video is exactly what the training was teaching me.
980215711 2 months ago
janaross2000 What kind of treats do you use? My dog likes eating ham slices, bu EXTREMLY small pieces.
iRandomlyMadeThis658 6 months ago
What if your dog for 2 years had only been trained to sit and down. And now that I'm teaching him to stand, he will just pull his butt from sit position. How can I correct this? thanks!
migsmagic 9 months ago
@migsmagic A floor made of sandpaper?
undertehlaw 8 months ago
very helpful and useful
chors2341 10 months ago
@ Carmen, okay, because if you notice in this video the dog is lured from beginning to end. Even at the end of the video you can see the guy putting food out and the dog is walking towards it.
So this video is great for starting the "stand" work but not for fading the food. I've asked two trainers about "stand" and neither goes to the next step. Naturally I could look for another trainer but I thought I would ask here.
Janeway1269 1 year ago
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Janeway1269 1 year ago
My dog gets so eager when food is around that he now thinks "stand" means walk-to-where-the-food-hand-is. He is overly focused on the food and not thinking about what I am trying to communicate. We need to refine the lesson. As he stands I put a foot out and block him so he doesn't move forward.
He did learn "sit," "lie down" and other things quite well, but being on your feet promotes movement. This problem isn't addressed here.
Janeway1269 1 year ago
@Janeway1269
Fading food prompts & food rewards is another phase in training, just as fading leash jerks and collar "corrections" is. No matter which is your training method, you can become dependent on your motivator (which it sounds like you did) if you don't know how to gradually reduce and replace its use. Find yourself a good, positive trainer to show you the next steps. Ian's lure-reward method seques beautifully to hand signals (no treat in hand), then reducing reward frequency.
carmenbuit 1 year ago
Thanks. We used your techniques. They were very helpful.
Rcow1222 1 year ago
"he only need to listen for the word" - while you're moving the food he wants? He's not listening to the word at all, he understands the guys moving his hand in the position the foods going in so recognises that more than the word. Trust me, I don't have to say a word to my dog to get him to sit, all he needs to know is his hand signal for "sit". Words are useless with dogs, use hand signals, much easier as demonstrated here, though this guy has it all wrong to what the dogs really listening to.
GraceUnderPressure1 2 years ago
you are so dumb
fuzi678 2 years ago 2
My dear, you really have to broaden your world and your views on animal training and psychology. You are however, partially correct, hand signals are a vital part of training and comunicating with animals. I train and use hunting dogs and I can tell you that they do know the sound of words. One of our drills is when we release a dog for a retrieve, we use their name. We will purposely use similar sounding words to fool them, they will not retrieve till their name is said. Then they blast off!
PistabachiCalifornia 2 years ago 2
@PistabachiCalifornia: Well said. For ordinary day to day obedience, hand signals should really reinforce a verbal command, which is especially important when a dog is in an excitable state, where it is more likely to be fixating on something, and might not be in the right frame of mind to respond to a gesture. I question the use of a name as a release word though. Names should be for affection/reward. Better to use something like OK instead, but yes, trick them with similar sounding words :-)
slrAU 2 years ago
The use of a dogs name as a release is very specific for retrieving dogs, I will explain. Say you are hunting with a buddy who also has a dog. Typically when game is shot, the dogs hold steady until released by a vocal command. What do you think would happen if we said "Fetch", thats right, both dogs would take off for the bird and all hell would break loose. The name release lets the dogs know who is to retrieve and who stays. Makes it black and white, hence the name trick so they learn to hold
PistabachiCalifornia 2 years ago
@PistabachiCalifornia: Yes, I see the dilemma. I'm not a fan of using a dog's name for anything other than praise or to draw their attention... but I can see that having multiple dogs would make this difficult, particularly if it meant you had to teach them all unique commands, and keep that all in your head!
Now for me, I'd actually be happy if both my dogs took off for a fetch, rather than giving me the "fetch it yourself" look! :-)
slrAU 2 years ago
LOL! What this shows us is that dogs may understand more then we think. If we are'nt hunting or doing drills, he responds to his name like a typical trained dog. He must process vocal, hand signals and also whistle commands, all of which may mean the same thing, but are presented to him differently. I can say sit, or I can give him the hand signal, or a single blast of the whistle, any one of which produce the same results, he sits. This also goes for several other commands. Lots of time put in!
PistabachiCalifornia 2 years ago
Dr. Dunbar...you are awesome..very informative and helpful.
isacris34 3 years ago
excelent
jgonzales007 3 years ago
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fishnsticks 3 years ago