I think it's hypocritical for a country who claims to support civil rights, and even hosts a holiday in the name of MLK, a civil rights leader, turns around and supports a state that treats its arab population as second class citizens.
sure they are. Over a million killed in this invasion, another million killed with the 90's sanctions, and many more killed by US bombings and US-sponsored dictators (including Saddam., Mubarak, House of Saud, the Shah etc)
The holocaust was truly a terrible, wretched thing, israeli's no longer have the right to use it to buy sympathy.
One thing in common with the nazis... the nazis looked down on their downtrodden victims as wretched animals...not even human.
It's with heavy irony that most people in Israel now have taken up the characteristics of th nazis. They can't even muster up the slightest sympathy for their victims, they don't even see them as human.
while it comes more and more to light that their holohoax is a fairy tail, they get more and more barbaric and they condemn that they have not the oportunity today to simple whipe out all palestinians without beeing critisized.
i believe we must end this terrorstate and must use nato and uno to march into israel as we did once in jugoslawia in the 90s.
"What will be seared into the consciousness of the world will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints. This will have severe consequences for our long-term future, our standing in the world, our chance of achieving peace and quiet.
In the end, this war is a crime against ourselves too, a crime against the State of Israel."
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wtf u want? i told u that part of the people think this and this. like not any amrican (lucky me) think like u do. i already told u i am cuting out this conv. i won't talk to a man like u. u r a terrorist and u help the nazi's by spreading their ideology and make the term nazi legitimate.
for now on - no more comments from me. see you in other life
get to steppin then trick, and lucky for me that the world is onto your ruse, run along with your tail in between your legs like a good little zionist. Fuckin´wannabe nazi scum.
today is the 27th of January. the world Holocaust Remembrance Day. and i feel ashamed for 6,000,000 jewish victioms. that now - their family is comapre to the Nazi busterd!
Especially in the case of Palestinians hating Israelis.
All a Palestinian needs to hate Israelis or even Jews is to live ONE day under Occupation.
If I was a Palestinian living under Occupation and all I ever saw was some douchebag Zionist telling me what to do all the time and killing my friends and family, I'd hate them too.
u r stupid people with zero knowledge about the system. i am living here and i am telling you that we have nothing in with Gaza. we don't tell them nothing and we dont talk wih them. we also don't let them come in the country cuz its a border. like any border in any other country. don't say "fuck israel and fuck Zionism" if u dont even know what r u talking about.. u just belive in what ur parents probabely believed, that jews r bad
"If they don't stop after we kill 100, then we must kill a thousand, and if they do not stop after 1,000 then we must kill 10,000. If they still don't stop we must kill 100,000, even a million. Whatever it takes to make them stop."
just for the record - the radical people in israel r the religions.. i do not agree with Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu and nither do the gov't. he do not present any of the gov't steps. it is like u say somthing and ill tell that any amrican hate israel. Israel do not work acording to the radical partys. if we did there was probabely no Gaza today (and cause of that - no israel)
Stop lyin you little dirt mcgirt bitch, the rabbinical authorities are highly influential in policy as well as in the army and the settler movement. Soldiers fighting against gaza recently were visited by rabbis who said there were no innocents in gaza, and that all targets were legitimate. You´ll find that out next year when you get to serve the blood-soaked regime. How cowardly to use the memory of the holocaust to whitewash you own crimes, disgusting. You make me sick
oh realy? tell me somthing i do not know about MY army.
my army is the israel DEFENCE force! it is what it is - gaurd our little country. do u even know what is it to be in a 300-400 Km country who is in the middle of 4 Arabs country? who can survive 60 years in honor, in dignity and between a terror attack to a war - even live! invent stuff. israel is the second after US in inventing new tec. we suceed in 60 years what the US did in 200! what r u talking bout? Holocaust is OUR ligitmit right!
This is like saying that Nazi Germany was flanked to the East by those dirty slavs and yet was able to "invent stuff", stuff like the jet engine. Jet powered f16´s which your "defense" forces use to terrorize the population of gaza in true nazi-like fashion. I don´t believe in god dipshit. And one more thing, when you´re carrying out military incursion into land that isn´t yours it isn´t "defense", call it what you want. You lose, again.
i treat it as a battle? i am trying to explain to u things but u still believe in ur self. in what the media tells you. CNN is a clear anti-israeli chanel. u r titivating in ur honesty but u don't talk bout the amrican in iraq or in Korea. u think that we campture and kill for no reason. but i am telling u other things. for close, and u still don't take any of my arguments. it is obvious that u won't take any of mine and i won't any of u. u say lies about us and claim that i am lieing.
I believe what the media tells me? I dont watch cnn....
Cite one instance where I lied.
Pointing your fingers at crimes committed by others is a CLASSIC propaganda tactic, you want my opinion on US Imperialism? Here you go: it sucks, and it is maintained in the middle east primarily by way of our little military colony we have set up called Ïsrael¨, it is my opinion that the entire state be dismantled, not the people, just the structure of the state.
your all assumption is wrong. u keep saying we r an occupying army. that we kills Palestinians with no reason. i keep telling u the reasons and the fact that this is very sad whats going on with Gaza citizens. but i am sorry to tell, i can't say i disagree the gov't actions. we did what should be done. we alert the people, we try to minimize the damge. also, not in Gaza but in this 60 years - we r at war and lots of people died in both sides. thousands of israelis and plasinians.
Israel isn´t the occupying power? So it´s Hamas that has been stationing checkpoints in Ramalla and placing settlements in Tel Aviv? Your shit is all wrong, since June ´67 Israel has led a harsh, brutal miltary occupation against the gaza strip and the west bank, there is nothing controversial about it. The world court even declared it to be an illegal occupation but of course the US is your mafia don so you can get away with ignoring the ruling for now. But when the money dries up, watch out
"My grandmother was ill in bed when the Nazis came to her home town of Staszow. A German soldier shot her dead in her bed," said Kaufman, who added that he had friends and family in Israel and had been there "more times than I can count.... My grandmother did not die to provide cover for Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian grandmothers in Gaza."
and here u go again..ignoring my words..u still think we capture and kill for no reason. under this schools? under this hospital? behind those kids? guess what u will find - TERROISTS ready to kill and bomb themselfs in the name of alla and get 72 vergins. for them its a religous war. it can never be end unless israel will be gone. can u talk with this people? can u? cause if u can - tell me what to say. u dont talk with terrorists. u act. israel did and will remain anti-terrorist. at any price
Then stop talking to my country, the ONLY country to be found guilty of international terrorism by the highest body of international law. Stop taking $4 billion year from us in handouts....
but you won´t because the terror that we do is "different"
What to say? Say "I will abide by the international consensus and the Arab League Initiative of 2002, as well as pursuing a TABA style round of negotiations until this POLITICAL problem is solved." It´s not a religious issue, or you wouldn´t see authentic Neturei Karta Jews standing alongside Arab Christians and Muslims in defiance of the genocidal Israeli policies.
in all this conversation i just proved 1 point. u support the arab's terror. u support bombing Shaids that killed hundred and thousands of inisent people. u r the no better than them.
i am cuting this out. u support the terror and u will see that in the future u will get it in ur face. first in the 9/11 and maybe next time, who knows - in ur city..
I support the arab´s terror? I assume you´re talking about the rocket fire and the suicide bombings, but sadly no, I don´t support these acts. They are foolish and only invite more criminality from your fascist,racist state WHICH I PAY FOR. Show me where I said I supported terrorism of any kind....
u dont need to say somthing for me to realize that u r pro-arab-terror. u refer to this terror acts like it's a "foolish and only invite more criminality from your fascist,racist state" so u blame us, again, for this acts. this acts r MURDER! in every-day life, in bus stations and more. it is not just "foolish" it's a war. this is their guns and plans. this bombs.
Yup, I would do the same thing as you if I had run out of talking points. When all else fails just start throwin out the insults! Hahahaha, yeah I´m the one arguing against terror yet you call me a terrorist? Get the fuck outta here bitch, my taxes pay for your life. YOU´RE WELCOME
and about the Rabbi. i do not lie (maybe u think i am cause i am jew right? how can i be right? u say u r dont hate jew but still calls for the exterminating of their very own country - israel is the only place that jew can live in peace. even in US - the mother of democracy - there is anti Semite groups who harm them. stop the anti Semite! for once and for good. our god is the same as urs. we r blood and flesh as you r. i am only a person who want to live peacfuli in my city.
The basic right of movment, Mr Night, is the basic right in YOUR country.
For example, when a mexican emigrant comes to the US ilegali, the FBI won't let him in.
The same here in israel. u just cant walk into a strange country just because you want. like a mexican just cant come into the US. It is a diffrent countrys - Gaza is not part of israel sience 2005!
Compare the Nazis to israel is to be stupid, unaware and the worst thing - u make them (the nazis) look alot better then they realy are!
Too simplistic and too manipulative to be called "education".
Not a word from you about hamas terrorists(this bunch of sociopaths)who keep palestinians who disagree with their rule in fear of death,who torture and kill you if you are a homosexual(see any similarities?)who deprive their own people from building their state and drag them to wars, who launch rockets from populated neighborhoods sacrificing civillians as long as it makes Israel look like a monster.
this is a lie.. ther was more then 13 dead israelis,, and u can be sure that if they could kill more they whould.. they r simpely a TERRORISTS (i am talking about Hamas only not about the poor people in there)
"they r simpely a TERRORISTS (i am talking about Hamas only"
Why don't you talk about Israel, we dont have to "imagine" them killing more if "they could":
"the Israeli Army has always struck civilian populations, purposely and consciously...the Army has never distinguished civilian [from military] targets...[but] purposely attacked civilian targets."
There is no more Ethical army them IDF. u can lugh but i am sirous.. did u know that the israel army is the only one that text-messege civilians and call them to evacuate their housed before the bombing? where in the world some1 so that? the army tell them - move away because we will bomb here in minutes. can u explain that? u think we only want to kill people? just for fun? this is a war and people are dieing. i am not proud of that but this is a fact.
Israel issued no warning at all when it first launched Operation Cast Lead. It struck at 11:30 a.m., a time when urban centers in Gaza were most populated and when children were changing shifts at school.
Israel calls more homes than it actually attacks.
Second, in densely packed urban areas, moving from one location to another is no guarantee of safety
If Hamas broadcasts warnings to Israelis to flee their homes would that absolve them of moral responsibility for all civilian deaths?
if a country near u whould wattack u with missles for 8 years. what whould u do? lets say u r the gov't and u deicde. tell me i want to know what a righteous man like u will do. (it is easy to talk from back there isn't it? come here and see)
You need to be aware that these rocket attacks don't come out of a vaccum, they are a reaction to 40 years of brutal military occupation. However, the fact that foolish resistance partisans are firing rockets does not provide justification for bombing police stations, universities, schools, hospitals, UN WAREHOUSES. I'm sorry but it just doesn't. Start by following the will of the world, the latest UN vote for Palestinian self determination was 173-5, stop blockin it. There are alts to violence
40 years of violonce? from which side? i hope u know that palestinians bombed themself here for 20 years in buses, resturants and bus station and killed thousand of civilians! what did they do? nothing but sit in a bus or alse.. u don't understand the bottom line - this is not our falt only, it is a fucknig war and its going on for more then 8 years.. someone got to take action! u just moralize us cause u got no problems there in europ..
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by this comment u made urself worth then Hitler. u just continue his "legacy". when u call me "jew" u r worst then 1000 bombs! this very sentnce is the base of all this war. the "jews" is always evil and wrong.. u say that israel do more damage - but this is cause we got army and they got terrorists.. it is the same thing.. just we r powerful.
Yes, I'm worse than Hitler by calling you 'jew", do you not claim to be a member of the jewish faith? Too bad you cannot back up your claim with actual deeds seeing as how the torah FORBIDS THE CREATION OF A JEWISH STATE, that is until the messiah comes. Is the messiah here? No I don't think so, in the meantime, concentrate on the real crux of the argument. Thanks homey
I am not a religious man. and the people who built this country with alot of work also don't believe the messiah. after WW2 we had no where to go. Israel was the best place for all the jewish refugees. btw, torah is the proof we r connecting to this land. it is out home, and we have no other place to go. we didn't ask for more then peace, quiet, just let us live our life!
You're more than welcome to live you life in peace within the internationally recognized borders (pre june '67) and to do whatever pseudo-judeo/non-religious/still-using-the-torah-to-justify- yourself-yet-claiming-to-be-non-religious stuff that you want. Stop trying to colonize the golan, gaza and the west bank.
"Oh but we pulled out of gaza! We gave them gaza!" If that's true then lift the strangulating economic blockade and stop violating its airspace. You are fail.
not only the Torah legitimize our land but also - we bought it legali from arabs who sold it to us in profiteer.. we are own this land now. and we won't move from the Golan and not from the west bank. because 6000 people died in order to protect this land in 48 and 3000 more in 73 and if we will give it back, it is like they died in vain. when u go to war, u need to know that u can lose. Egypt and Jordan knows that. now let Syria and Lebanon too.. peace is painful. but can be achived
gaza and the west bank are not "yours", the world court has ruled that the settlements and the separation wall are illegal . How do you not know this? If Israel is serious about security and not just expansion it will accept the Arab proposal of 2002.
Gaza is not part of israel! we even deleted it on our map and now it is not israel. and thats why we attack there. it's a war-land and we can't allow them to bomb us with rockets..
2002 Arab League Initiative, supported by all the Arab states, as well as Iran, Hamas and Hezbullah. Rejected by Israel
-Calls for normalization of relations with Israel provided it adheres to a 2 state peace settlement in the occupied territories.
If gaza is not a part of israel than israel should stop the economic blockade and re-assert a commitment to the 2005 agreement on movement and access. Plus it's civilian leadership should go on trial at the hague for war crimes, along with mine (US)
I dont know about this Initiative. but i do know one thing - Golda Meir once said somthing that maybe will make u understnad: the peace can never be achived this way. Arabs need to love their children more then they hate israel.
this is the main idea - u can't go back from land because it will not be the end. the Arabs goal is to simpely DISTROY israel. they say it, they don't want any israeli in israel. they want to distroy this country. we can't let it happend again. after 60 years
You do realize that every time you try to make a point that it falls flat right? Now in your desperation you admit that you "dont know about this Initiative" but you change the subject to a bullshit-ass quote from Golda Meir? This is the same woman who said there was no such thing as a Palestinian...and yet am I supposed to take you seriously? Please go read a book or something dude, your lack of knowledge is embarrassing. I can´t believe my taxes goto pay for your bullshit existence....
u racialist busterd. tell me somthing, do u know how it is to argue with anti-israel people in a DIFRENT lungh and with high-vocab while u r only17 years old? i am still learning but yet do my best to answer u. also, i didn't know about this specific intiative cuase the Arab league suggest every year somthing alse. but i can be sure that its including the fact that israel will not be exist. stop crying bout ur taxes. if u r not happy u can move to to an arab country. then talk to me bout honesty
and 1 more thing. when u will learn about tolerance then u may talk for the Palestinians. but now - u r just like the German. u judge poeple because of their origins and not look at the facts objectively. it is convenient to hate the jews, israel, zionism. but if u will learn about both sides u will probabely change ur anti-israel opinion..
"learn about tolerance then ...... but now - u r just like the German"
One who tells me to learn tolerance immediately makes a blanket statement about Germans, brilliant. I don´t hate jews, authentic jews don´t recognize the zionist creation. My position is rather simple, a religous state, be it jewish, christian, hindu, scientologist or whatever, has no legitamacy. How can you not understand this, and why do you go from changing the subject constantly to quoting Meir to now slinging insults?
by saying German i meant nazis. in History class we use to say German. excuse me for the misunderstanding. i have german friends as well.
and bout Golda Meir. i didn't changed the subject. i simeply didn't know about this Arab Leauge suggestion
and i insulting cause i am my self insulted. u keep talk about how ur taxes give us the right to live. we can survive without ur taxes.. its not an issue.. stop bringing it up
Do they care about their own?Hell no!Lives are expendable for hamas.Grow up, stop manipulations, and stop taking sides cause neither side of the conflict is either devil or saint.
No, I didn't say "Fuck the Jewish people," you ignorant illiterate stooge.
(That's for the ignorant illiterate stooges who give me a thumbs down and call me an anti-semite.)
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Exactley. You'd think people who had gone through that kind of bullshit would be aware and sensitive enough to not turn around and do it to someone eles.
It is interesting to compare the ideologies of some zionist groups such as Betar with the Nazis. The similarities are striking, unsuprisingly as they are both ethinic nationalist ideologies, only the appeal to a specific ethnicity are fundamentally different.
Nice vid. When it's happening to our kids it's easy to see that it's wrong, why not equally so when it's our "enemy's" kids?
Hatred will never put an end to hatred. Like it or no Israel isn't going away any time soon, and violence has only strengthened that. Support passive resistance coupled with heavy media and press coverage in Gaza and West Bank. Support Jewish groups that spoke out against the abuse in Gaza (Jews Against The Occupation etc.). Support war crime charges against Israel.
no. what inevitability is there for privation, captivity and abuse? there is nothing natural, divinely sanctioned or eternally human about nazism, capitalism, zionism.
you are lost if you forget that once we were free, alive in a culture that works for the good of all and not for the few over the many.
what we're have here is a recent, 400generation-long, way of being in the world that refuses to see the human enterprise as a part of the whole, conscious earth. civilization is sickly.
additionally, the degrading, alienating nature of class society is expressly conceived as an exception, an unfortunate accident and unalterable abnormality that must be borne quietely. The oppressed see their social inferiority as inescapable or noraml instead of being what it is: the result of particular economic conditions of violence and hegemony. & since the perceptions of the captive are shaped to meet the needs of the masters, they are therefore false.
get a culture that keeps food under lock and key, dispossessing the vast majority from accessing the fruits of the earth that belong to all, forcing most into wage-slavery to satisfy basic needs and you get the present, all-too-familiar symptoms of pathology.
i repeat: don't mistake the social reality as it is, as a trans-historical 'truth'.
the absence of ghettos- in fact the lack of cities and other forms of cages- in non-civilized communities indicates nonalienating fucking freedom!
note what this means. there are diffferent modes of being in the world. many varying ways of perceiving ourselves, many world-views and world-dos.
suicide, homocide, rape and depression are manifestations of unrealized energies supressed by this one, dominator culture. when we want to kill ourselves, more often, we want to change our world that appears unchangable when in fact society is very much subject to conscious alteration.
you said it, sadly it requires people to change in order for them to free themselves (and the world) but most are so wrapped up in, the interests they've invested in and the crap that they think they "need" but didn't even want before someone sold it to them, to realize how asleep and imprisoned they are. They try to deny the relationship between our actions and the state of the world, in order to avoid what they believe will be a "loss"...
In our double-thinking 'society of the spectacle', people ignore tyranny if it has a slick logo or a cadencent slogan.
Sadly we won't prevent this in the United States, because most people won't recognize the gravity of the national and global situation until it reaches their door step. And then they won't be prepared to defend themselves, much less know what changes are necessary in their own philosophies in order to usher in a more liberated, self-sufficient, and responsible society.
so right, that's kind of what's happening now. it's sink or swim for many people even in the heart of the empire and you know something's about to come in a couple of years or by the next decade at the most that'll surely shake things up.
"i can't wait to leave this miserable world. " -feel like that too; although, getting rid of people who actually care enough to be depressed isn't going to improve the future though.
no big trick. This strip of images is on the internet. I just placed my camera on top of a few books and in front of the computer screen and scrolled down
How have I denied the holocaust?
Regardless murderous thieving Israeli scum need to stop playing the holocaust card any more, it's too much.
Smorg85 2 years ago
I think it's hypocritical for a country who claims to support civil rights, and even hosts a holiday in the name of MLK, a civil rights leader, turns around and supports a state that treats its arab population as second class citizens.
What's wrong with that picture?
Mechelle68 2 years ago
pallywood propaganda as usual .
2haveaniceday 2 years ago
i like the background music very relaxing
666iniquity 2 years ago
Big difference here people that the video director over looked.......Americans are not killing arab's buy the millions......
satanicinternational 2 years ago
sure they are. Over a million killed in this invasion, another million killed with the 90's sanctions, and many more killed by US bombings and US-sponsored dictators (including Saddam., Mubarak, House of Saud, the Shah etc)
mr1001nights 2 years ago 4
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So they do this to Muslims?
akumatekkusu666 2 years ago
The holocaust was truly a terrible, wretched thing, israeli's no longer have the right to use it to buy sympathy.
One thing in common with the nazis... the nazis looked down on their downtrodden victims as wretched animals...not even human.
It's with heavy irony that most people in Israel now have taken up the characteristics of th nazis. They can't even muster up the slightest sympathy for their victims, they don't even see them as human.
They are "nazis" just with bigger noses.
Smorg85 3 years ago 2
@Smorg85 Holocaust denial; anti-Semitism; lying; distorting history ..........all you unsavory characters seem to find one another on YouTube
MojaveViper29 2 years ago
while it comes more and more to light that their holohoax is a fairy tail, they get more and more barbaric and they condemn that they have not the oportunity today to simple whipe out all palestinians without beeing critisized.
i believe we must end this terrorstate and must use nato and uno to march into israel as we did once in jugoslawia in the 90s.
horror11 3 years ago
The Final Solution, and Zionist Solution are the same thing. Israel is a 21st century Nazi fascist state.
Long live the PLO, Death to Western funded zionist genocide!
wnxsilence 3 years ago
haha i got this same email. its so true! israelis are nazis!!!!! =)
waterroadtree324 3 years ago 3
"What will be seared into the consciousness of the world will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints. This will have severe consequences for our long-term future, our standing in the world, our chance of achieving peace and quiet.
In the end, this war is a crime against ourselves too, a crime against the State of Israel."
Uri Avnery, Israeli Author, Gush Shalom member
Cefuroxx 3 years ago 2
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wtf u want? i told u that part of the people think this and this. like not any amrican (lucky me) think like u do. i already told u i am cuting out this conv. i won't talk to a man like u. u r a terrorist and u help the nazi's by spreading their ideology and make the term nazi legitimate.
for now on - no more comments from me. see you in other life
djshaby306 3 years ago
get to steppin then trick, and lucky for me that the world is onto your ruse, run along with your tail in between your legs like a good little zionist. Fuckin´wannabe nazi scum.
Cefuroxx 3 years ago 4
Fuck these ZioNazis.
Arjuna1901 3 years ago
today is the 27th of January. the world Holocaust Remembrance Day. and i feel ashamed for 6,000,000 jewish victioms. that now - their family is comapre to the Nazi busterd!
Shame on u
djshaby306 3 years ago
LOL@DJshaby
No one needs to be TAUGHT to hate anyone.
Especially in the case of Palestinians hating Israelis.
All a Palestinian needs to hate Israelis or even Jews is to live ONE day under Occupation.
If I was a Palestinian living under Occupation and all I ever saw was some douchebag Zionist telling me what to do all the time and killing my friends and family, I'd hate them too.
Fuck Israel and it's apologists. Fuck Zionism.
Arjuna1901 3 years ago 3
u r an ass.
no jew or israeli tells the arab what to do.
u r stupid people with zero knowledge about the system. i am living here and i am telling you that we have nothing in with Gaza. we don't tell them nothing and we dont talk wih them. we also don't let them come in the country cuz its a border. like any border in any other country. don't say "fuck israel and fuck Zionism" if u dont even know what r u talking about.. u just belive in what ur parents probabely believed, that jews r bad
djshaby306 3 years ago
No Israeli tells the arabs what to do?
"If they don't stop after we kill 100, then we must kill a thousand, and if they do not stop after 1,000 then we must kill 10,000. If they still don't stop we must kill 100,000, even a million. Whatever it takes to make them stop."
Israeli Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
just for the record - the radical people in israel r the religions.. i do not agree with Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu and nither do the gov't. he do not present any of the gov't steps. it is like u say somthing and ill tell that any amrican hate israel. Israel do not work acording to the radical partys. if we did there was probabely no Gaza today (and cause of that - no israel)
let the secular run the gov't please..
djshaby306 3 years ago
Stop lyin you little dirt mcgirt bitch, the rabbinical authorities are highly influential in policy as well as in the army and the settler movement. Soldiers fighting against gaza recently were visited by rabbis who said there were no innocents in gaza, and that all targets were legitimate. You´ll find that out next year when you get to serve the blood-soaked regime. How cowardly to use the memory of the holocaust to whitewash you own crimes, disgusting. You make me sick
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
oh realy? tell me somthing i do not know about MY army.
my army is the israel DEFENCE force! it is what it is - gaurd our little country. do u even know what is it to be in a 300-400 Km country who is in the middle of 4 Arabs country? who can survive 60 years in honor, in dignity and between a terror attack to a war - even live! invent stuff. israel is the second after US in inventing new tec. we suceed in 60 years what the US did in 200! what r u talking bout? Holocaust is OUR ligitmit right!
djshaby306 3 years ago
This is like saying that Nazi Germany was flanked to the East by those dirty slavs and yet was able to "invent stuff", stuff like the jet engine. Jet powered f16´s which your "defense" forces use to terrorize the population of gaza in true nazi-like fashion. I don´t believe in god dipshit. And one more thing, when you´re carrying out military incursion into land that isn´t yours it isn´t "defense", call it what you want. You lose, again.
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
i treat it as a battle? i am trying to explain to u things but u still believe in ur self. in what the media tells you. CNN is a clear anti-israeli chanel. u r titivating in ur honesty but u don't talk bout the amrican in iraq or in Korea. u think that we campture and kill for no reason. but i am telling u other things. for close, and u still don't take any of my arguments. it is obvious that u won't take any of mine and i won't any of u. u say lies about us and claim that i am lieing.
djshaby306 3 years ago
I believe what the media tells me? I dont watch cnn....
Cite one instance where I lied.
Pointing your fingers at crimes committed by others is a CLASSIC propaganda tactic, you want my opinion on US Imperialism? Here you go: it sucks, and it is maintained in the middle east primarily by way of our little military colony we have set up called Ïsrael¨, it is my opinion that the entire state be dismantled, not the people, just the structure of the state.
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
your all assumption is wrong. u keep saying we r an occupying army. that we kills Palestinians with no reason. i keep telling u the reasons and the fact that this is very sad whats going on with Gaza citizens. but i am sorry to tell, i can't say i disagree the gov't actions. we did what should be done. we alert the people, we try to minimize the damge. also, not in Gaza but in this 60 years - we r at war and lots of people died in both sides. thousands of israelis and plasinians.
djshaby306 3 years ago
Israel isn´t the occupying power? So it´s Hamas that has been stationing checkpoints in Ramalla and placing settlements in Tel Aviv? Your shit is all wrong, since June ´67 Israel has led a harsh, brutal miltary occupation against the gaza strip and the west bank, there is nothing controversial about it. The world court even declared it to be an illegal occupation but of course the US is your mafia don so you can get away with ignoring the ruling for now. But when the money dries up, watch out
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
"My grandmother was ill in bed when the Nazis came to her home town of Staszow. A German soldier shot her dead in her bed," said Kaufman, who added that he had friends and family in Israel and had been there "more times than I can count.... My grandmother did not die to provide cover for Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian grandmothers in Gaza."
Gerald Kaufman, Labor MP, United Kingdom
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
and here u go again..ignoring my words..u still think we capture and kill for no reason. under this schools? under this hospital? behind those kids? guess what u will find - TERROISTS ready to kill and bomb themselfs in the name of alla and get 72 vergins. for them its a religous war. it can never be end unless israel will be gone. can u talk with this people? can u? cause if u can - tell me what to say. u dont talk with terrorists. u act. israel did and will remain anti-terrorist. at any price
djshaby306 3 years ago
"u dont talk with terrorists. u act"
Then stop talking to my country, the ONLY country to be found guilty of international terrorism by the highest body of international law. Stop taking $4 billion year from us in handouts....
but you won´t because the terror that we do is "different"
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
What to say? Say "I will abide by the international consensus and the Arab League Initiative of 2002, as well as pursuing a TABA style round of negotiations until this POLITICAL problem is solved." It´s not a religious issue, or you wouldn´t see authentic Neturei Karta Jews standing alongside Arab Christians and Muslims in defiance of the genocidal Israeli policies.
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
in all this conversation i just proved 1 point. u support the arab's terror. u support bombing Shaids that killed hundred and thousands of inisent people. u r the no better than them.
i am cuting this out. u support the terror and u will see that in the future u will get it in ur face. first in the 9/11 and maybe next time, who knows - in ur city..
carful! and have a good life
djshaby306 3 years ago
I support the arab´s terror? I assume you´re talking about the rocket fire and the suicide bombings, but sadly no, I don´t support these acts. They are foolish and only invite more criminality from your fascist,racist state WHICH I PAY FOR. Show me where I said I supported terrorism of any kind....
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
u dont need to say somthing for me to realize that u r pro-arab-terror. u refer to this terror acts like it's a "foolish and only invite more criminality from your fascist,racist state" so u blame us, again, for this acts. this acts r MURDER! in every-day life, in bus stations and more. it is not just "foolish" it's a war. this is their guns and plans. this bombs.
djshaby306 3 years ago
Yup, I would do the same thing as you if I had run out of talking points. When all else fails just start throwin out the insults! Hahahaha, yeah I´m the one arguing against terror yet you call me a terrorist? Get the fuck outta here bitch, my taxes pay for your life. YOU´RE WELCOME
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
and about the Rabbi. i do not lie (maybe u think i am cause i am jew right? how can i be right? u say u r dont hate jew but still calls for the exterminating of their very own country - israel is the only place that jew can live in peace. even in US - the mother of democracy - there is anti Semite groups who harm them. stop the anti Semite! for once and for good. our god is the same as urs. we r blood and flesh as you r. i am only a person who want to live peacfuli in my city.
djshaby306 3 years ago
The basic right of movment, Mr Night, is the basic right in YOUR country.
For example, when a mexican emigrant comes to the US ilegali, the FBI won't let him in.
The same here in israel. u just cant walk into a strange country just because you want. like a mexican just cant come into the US. It is a diffrent countrys - Gaza is not part of israel sience 2005!
Compare the Nazis to israel is to be stupid, unaware and the worst thing - u make them (the nazis) look alot better then they realy are!
djshaby306 3 years ago
cool, not very enticing tho....boring material mr nights
S1UMLORDpaulo 3 years ago
Simple folks will not ask questions and investigate the details of the conflict. And you know it.
SIMKINYX 3 years ago
Too simplistic and too manipulative to be called "education".
Not a word from you about hamas terrorists(this bunch of sociopaths)who keep palestinians who disagree with their rule in fear of death,who torture and kill you if you are a homosexual(see any similarities?)who deprive their own people from building their state and drag them to wars, who launch rockets from populated neighborhoods sacrificing civillians as long as it makes Israel look like a monster.
SIMKINYX 3 years ago
"(see any similarities?)"
1300 dead Palestinians
13 dead Israelis
"For every 1 of ours that they kill, we will kill 100 of theirs"
- Gestapo summation of Nazi "Terror against Terror"
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
this is a lie.. ther was more then 13 dead israelis,, and u can be sure that if they could kill more they whould.. they r simpely a TERRORISTS (i am talking about Hamas only not about the poor people in there)
djshaby306 3 years ago
"they r simpely a TERRORISTS (i am talking about Hamas only"
Why don't you talk about Israel, we dont have to "imagine" them killing more if "they could":
"the Israeli Army has always struck civilian populations, purposely and consciously...the Army has never distinguished civilian [from military] targets...[but] purposely attacked civilian targets."
Israeli Military Analyst Zeef Schiff
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
There is no more Ethical army them IDF. u can lugh but i am sirous.. did u know that the israel army is the only one that text-messege civilians and call them to evacuate their housed before the bombing? where in the world some1 so that? the army tell them - move away because we will bomb here in minutes. can u explain that? u think we only want to kill people? just for fun? this is a war and people are dieing. i am not proud of that but this is a fact.
djshaby306 3 years ago
Israel issued no warning at all when it first launched Operation Cast Lead. It struck at 11:30 a.m., a time when urban centers in Gaza were most populated and when children were changing shifts at school.
Israel calls more homes than it actually attacks.
Second, in densely packed urban areas, moving from one location to another is no guarantee of safety
If Hamas broadcasts warnings to Israelis to flee their homes would that absolve them of moral responsibility for all civilian deaths?
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
and u still didn't answer my question.
if a country near u whould wattack u with missles for 8 years. what whould u do? lets say u r the gov't and u deicde. tell me i want to know what a righteous man like u will do. (it is easy to talk from back there isn't it? come here and see)
pliz answer my question. i am crave to know..
djshaby306 3 years ago
You need to be aware that these rocket attacks don't come out of a vaccum, they are a reaction to 40 years of brutal military occupation. However, the fact that foolish resistance partisans are firing rockets does not provide justification for bombing police stations, universities, schools, hospitals, UN WAREHOUSES. I'm sorry but it just doesn't. Start by following the will of the world, the latest UN vote for Palestinian self determination was 173-5, stop blockin it. There are alts to violence
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
and u still didn't answer - what should we do?
40 years of violonce? from which side? i hope u know that palestinians bombed themself here for 20 years in buses, resturants and bus station and killed thousand of civilians! what did they do? nothing but sit in a bus or alse.. u don't understand the bottom line - this is not our falt only, it is a fucknig war and its going on for more then 8 years.. someone got to take action! u just moralize us cause u got no problems there in europ..
djshaby306 3 years ago
1. Lift blockade
2. Accept the 2002 Arab League Initiative, supported by all the Arab states, as well as Iran, Hamas and Hezbullah. Rejected by Israel
3. Violence is from both sides, but with much more damage being meted out by Israel due to balance of forces and US military support.
4. I'm American, my taxes subsidize your life. You're welcome "jew"
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
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by this comment u made urself worth then Hitler. u just continue his "legacy". when u call me "jew" u r worst then 1000 bombs! this very sentnce is the base of all this war. the "jews" is always evil and wrong.. u say that israel do more damage - but this is cause we got army and they got terrorists.. it is the same thing.. just we r powerful.
djshaby306 3 years ago
Yes, I'm worse than Hitler by calling you 'jew", do you not claim to be a member of the jewish faith? Too bad you cannot back up your claim with actual deeds seeing as how the torah FORBIDS THE CREATION OF A JEWISH STATE, that is until the messiah comes. Is the messiah here? No I don't think so, in the meantime, concentrate on the real crux of the argument. Thanks homey
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
I am not a religious man. and the people who built this country with alot of work also don't believe the messiah. after WW2 we had no where to go. Israel was the best place for all the jewish refugees. btw, torah is the proof we r connecting to this land. it is out home, and we have no other place to go. we didn't ask for more then peace, quiet, just let us live our life!
djshaby306 3 years ago
You're more than welcome to live you life in peace within the internationally recognized borders (pre june '67) and to do whatever pseudo-judeo/non-religious/still-using-the-torah-to-justify- yourself-yet-claiming-to-be-non-religious stuff that you want. Stop trying to colonize the golan, gaza and the west bank.
"Oh but we pulled out of gaza! We gave them gaza!" If that's true then lift the strangulating economic blockade and stop violating its airspace. You are fail.
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
not only the Torah legitimize our land but also - we bought it legali from arabs who sold it to us in profiteer.. we are own this land now. and we won't move from the Golan and not from the west bank. because 6000 people died in order to protect this land in 48 and 3000 more in 73 and if we will give it back, it is like they died in vain. when u go to war, u need to know that u can lose. Egypt and Jordan knows that. now let Syria and Lebanon too.. peace is painful. but can be achived
djshaby306 3 years ago
gaza and the west bank are not "yours", the world court has ruled that the settlements and the separation wall are illegal . How do you not know this? If Israel is serious about security and not just expansion it will accept the Arab proposal of 2002.
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
what Arab proposal of 2002? explain
Gaza is not part of israel! we even deleted it on our map and now it is not israel. and thats why we attack there. it's a war-land and we can't allow them to bomb us with rockets..
djshaby306 3 years ago
2002 Arab League Initiative, supported by all the Arab states, as well as Iran, Hamas and Hezbullah. Rejected by Israel
-Calls for normalization of relations with Israel provided it adheres to a 2 state peace settlement in the occupied territories.
If gaza is not a part of israel than israel should stop the economic blockade and re-assert a commitment to the 2005 agreement on movement and access. Plus it's civilian leadership should go on trial at the hague for war crimes, along with mine (US)
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
I dont know about this Initiative. but i do know one thing - Golda Meir once said somthing that maybe will make u understnad: the peace can never be achived this way. Arabs need to love their children more then they hate israel.
this is the main idea - u can't go back from land because it will not be the end. the Arabs goal is to simpely DISTROY israel. they say it, they don't want any israeli in israel. they want to distroy this country. we can't let it happend again. after 60 years
djshaby306 3 years ago
You do realize that every time you try to make a point that it falls flat right? Now in your desperation you admit that you "dont know about this Initiative" but you change the subject to a bullshit-ass quote from Golda Meir? This is the same woman who said there was no such thing as a Palestinian...and yet am I supposed to take you seriously? Please go read a book or something dude, your lack of knowledge is embarrassing. I can´t believe my taxes goto pay for your bullshit existence....
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
u racialist busterd. tell me somthing, do u know how it is to argue with anti-israel people in a DIFRENT lungh and with high-vocab while u r only17 years old? i am still learning but yet do my best to answer u. also, i didn't know about this specific intiative cuase the Arab league suggest every year somthing alse. but i can be sure that its including the fact that israel will not be exist. stop crying bout ur taxes. if u r not happy u can move to to an arab country. then talk to me bout honesty
djshaby306 3 years ago
and 1 more thing. when u will learn about tolerance then u may talk for the Palestinians. but now - u r just like the German. u judge poeple because of their origins and not look at the facts objectively. it is convenient to hate the jews, israel, zionism. but if u will learn about both sides u will probabely change ur anti-israel opinion..
djshaby306 3 years ago
"learn about tolerance then ...... but now - u r just like the German"
One who tells me to learn tolerance immediately makes a blanket statement about Germans, brilliant. I don´t hate jews, authentic jews don´t recognize the zionist creation. My position is rather simple, a religous state, be it jewish, christian, hindu, scientologist or whatever, has no legitamacy. How can you not understand this, and why do you go from changing the subject constantly to quoting Meir to now slinging insults?
Cefuroxx 3 years ago
by saying German i meant nazis. in History class we use to say German. excuse me for the misunderstanding. i have german friends as well.
and bout Golda Meir. i didn't changed the subject. i simeply didn't know about this Arab Leauge suggestion
and i insulting cause i am my self insulted. u keep talk about how ur taxes give us the right to live. we can survive without ur taxes.. its not an issue.. stop bringing it up
djshaby306 3 years ago
Do they care about their own?Hell no!Lives are expendable for hamas.Grow up, stop manipulations, and stop taking sides cause neither side of the conflict is either devil or saint.
SIMKINYX 3 years ago
Fuck Israel.
No, I didn't say "Fuck the Jewish people," you ignorant illiterate stooge.
(That's for the ignorant illiterate stooges who give me a thumbs down and call me an anti-semite.)
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(That's for ECHELON.)
vktrsx 3 years ago 2
Exactley. You'd think people who had gone through that kind of bullshit would be aware and sensitive enough to not turn around and do it to someone eles.
ntheAttic 3 years ago
It is interesting to compare the ideologies of some zionist groups such as Betar with the Nazis. The similarities are striking, unsuprisingly as they are both ethinic nationalist ideologies, only the appeal to a specific ethnicity are fundamentally different.
yeahwotevaman 3 years ago 3
Ain't dedicated to nonviolence here.
coffeebeaner 3 years ago
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malayneum 3 years ago 4
Nice vid. When it's happening to our kids it's easy to see that it's wrong, why not equally so when it's our "enemy's" kids?
Hatred will never put an end to hatred. Like it or no Israel isn't going away any time soon, and violence has only strengthened that. Support passive resistance coupled with heavy media and press coverage in Gaza and West Bank. Support Jewish groups that spoke out against the abuse in Gaza (Jews Against The Occupation etc.). Support war crime charges against Israel.
Peace
MooseCracker 3 years ago
Histories important lesson: The lessons of history are never learned for long - in fact they are quickly and conveniently forgotten
axisaudio 3 years ago
i can't wait to leave this miserable world.
deliciousmorton 3 years ago
that's dumb. don't confuse the pathology of present societies with the human condition.
mikezephyr 3 years ago
it seems like pathological societies are the human condition.
deliciousmorton 3 years ago
no. what inevitability is there for privation, captivity and abuse? there is nothing natural, divinely sanctioned or eternally human about nazism, capitalism, zionism.
you are lost if you forget that once we were free, alive in a culture that works for the good of all and not for the few over the many.
what we're have here is a recent, 400generation-long, way of being in the world that refuses to see the human enterprise as a part of the whole, conscious earth. civilization is sickly.
mikezephyr 3 years ago
additionally, the degrading, alienating nature of class society is expressly conceived as an exception, an unfortunate accident and unalterable abnormality that must be borne quietely. The oppressed see their social inferiority as inescapable or noraml instead of being what it is: the result of particular economic conditions of violence and hegemony. & since the perceptions of the captive are shaped to meet the needs of the masters, they are therefore false.
mikezephyr 3 years ago
get a culture that keeps food under lock and key, dispossessing the vast majority from accessing the fruits of the earth that belong to all, forcing most into wage-slavery to satisfy basic needs and you get the present, all-too-familiar symptoms of pathology.
i repeat: don't mistake the social reality as it is, as a trans-historical 'truth'.
the absence of ghettos- in fact the lack of cities and other forms of cages- in non-civilized communities indicates nonalienating fucking freedom!
mikezephyr 3 years ago
note what this means. there are diffferent modes of being in the world. many varying ways of perceiving ourselves, many world-views and world-dos.
suicide, homocide, rape and depression are manifestations of unrealized energies supressed by this one, dominator culture. when we want to kill ourselves, more often, we want to change our world that appears unchangable when in fact society is very much subject to conscious alteration.
mikezephyr 3 years ago
you said it, sadly it requires people to change in order for them to free themselves (and the world) but most are so wrapped up in, the interests they've invested in and the crap that they think they "need" but didn't even want before someone sold it to them, to realize how asleep and imprisoned they are. They try to deny the relationship between our actions and the state of the world, in order to avoid what they believe will be a "loss"...
MooseCracker 3 years ago
it's scary even if you're aware of the costs. so, you tell ourself lies to function in a modern industrial economy.
but i don't want that, and im not up for lying to myself or to my fellow prisoners any more.
mikezephyr 3 years ago
In our double-thinking 'society of the spectacle', people ignore tyranny if it has a slick logo or a cadencent slogan.
Sadly we won't prevent this in the United States, because most people won't recognize the gravity of the national and global situation until it reaches their door step. And then they won't be prepared to defend themselves, much less know what changes are necessary in their own philosophies in order to usher in a more liberated, self-sufficient, and responsible society.
ZenAnarchistAmerican 3 years ago
so right, that's kind of what's happening now. it's sink or swim for many people even in the heart of the empire and you know something's about to come in a couple of years or by the next decade at the most that'll surely shake things up.
mikezephyr 3 years ago
Civil war!
coffeebeaner 3 years ago
"i can't wait to leave this miserable world. " -feel like that too; although, getting rid of people who actually care enough to be depressed isn't going to improve the future though.
MooseCracker 3 years ago 2
the world is an ash tray.
Slapnuts6931 3 years ago
Thoughtful and powerful. Thank you for posting.
CityofDestiny 3 years ago
comparisons between Israel and Nazi Germany accomplish nothing. they can each stand on the their own as examples of atrocities.
freethinker17 3 years ago
i already knew what this vid was about when i saw the title in my subscriptions box. israel and nazi germany have perfectly synonymous policies.
rlvowell 3 years ago
Oh thats as well on Finkelsteins website.
Staubdumm 3 years ago
israel suxz
gladiadorextremo 3 years ago
This was awesome. You've got to tell me how you did that. I loved it. Great editing.
buddhagem 3 years ago
no big trick. This strip of images is on the internet. I just placed my camera on top of a few books and in front of the computer screen and scrolled down
mr1001nights 3 years ago