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  • I honestly wonder how many times Chomsky has answered the argument 'you're not being censored!! here you are right now talking!!'

  • I think this is the first time I've heard anyone in the press (who isn't a fellow traveler) show appreciation for his documentation!

  • it all begins with the media and that influences us, the media is not a reflection of how things are it's the blueprint for our fucked up system

  • @BRIANCLARKE1973 lol, of course, that's as clear as an unmuddied lake, sir. Clear as an azure sky of deepest summer

  • *grin*

    This is rather like watching a bunch of balloons attack a cactus.

    Never, without a single exception, have I ever seen anyone challenge

    Chomsky on any point in any public debate or discussion that did not result in Chomsky either:

    A. Utterly paralyzing his interlocutor by citing a string of facts from primary sources that he doesn't even *attempt* to challenge.

    B. Backing him into a logical corner with effortless efficiency.

  • Douche

  • he always manages to see thru all the b.s. i think his ability to break down language thru his linguistics in a way that no other human can enables him to have a complex grasp on issues that takes him writing or speaking to for us to understand. genius

  • His linguistics has nothing to do with his political writings.

  • his linguistics have everything to do with his ability to read an interpret the vast amounts of political documents and historical accounts that he reads.  He reads six newspapers a day and atleast 3 books a week. Therefore his linguistics has everything to do with his ability to write an intepret political writings

  • @gaterzick it sounds like a stretch gaterzick but maybe there's something there

  • @gaterzick QUESTION: In the time we have remaining, I'd like to ask you two questions. The first one is, in what ways, if any, has your work in linguistics and grammar informed your political analyses and perspectives?

    CHOMSKY: I suspect very little. Maybe, I don't know, I'm probably not the person to ask, but I think working in a science is useful because you somehow learn, you get to understand what evidence and argument and rationality are and you come to be able to apply these to other...

  • @gaterzick ...My own anarchist interests, which go way back to early childhood, and on the other hand, they enter here in a clear and relatively precise way into my work on language and thought and so on, but it's a pretty loose connection, not a kind of connection where you can deduce one connection from another or anything like that.

    Excerpted from Chronicles of Dissent, 1992 - typical answer. He often just says "nothing" or "almost nothing as far as I can tell"

  • @wildhippy really? chomsky often says nothing. you obviously misinterpret him way too easily

  • @gaterzick where or how can i read about this? i always wanted to know what his reading was like

  • @mcshobe2008 most of it is like reading law text. u need to read it a few times for it to make complete sense. Most of his books deal with linguistics not so much political matters, which is what interests me. your best bet is just to google chomsky articles and videos

  • By the way, David Frum, one of the journalists that Chomsky intellectually OWNES, was the Bush speech writer that came up with the phrase "Axis of Evil" - to bad a Chomsky brow beating didn't enlighten him - just mad him more of a right wing moron.

  • @wildhippy Frum is enough to make me anti-semetic

  • @wildhippy it just goes to show you, reason and patience does not always work with the ultra right wing conservative or any individual or group that holds views that almost always leads to violence on innocents, especially if those peopel are in influentual power like from. Also when you use such aggression as they do to resist, you are now the "enemy." immoral beliefs and actions or what we know as "evil" or just plain corruption has more advantageous on earth than morals, reciprocity etc

  • @wildhippy ohh shit..i just realized that its the same david frum...weird

  • Canada is a very beautiful place, much better than the U.S althought I do despise Harper.

  • you would never have a "chomsky vs US journalists" occur on this scale and be broadcasted.

  • It is not such a leap from clandestine activities in Iran Contra, being driven underground because the public would not support what the administration wanted to do, to believing another administration would deliberately bring down the twin towers.

    Why is it that some people can comprehend the one and not the other?

    9/11 had the EFFECT of persuading the public that we should be at war in Iraq, did it not?

    Why won't Chomsky consider that this effect had it's cause right here at home?

    Anyone?

  • Because the evidence points against that theory, as convenient as it might be. The evidence points toward a totally inept and idiotic administration ignoring the warnings of the previous administration, who they had nothing but contempt for. Just because something seems plausible or even likely that doesn't mean it's true.

  • Well I'm sorry but we have been looking at completely different pieces of evidence then. I would even say that you are retarded, looking back over the three months since I posted that comment, to say that a fire on the upper floors of two steel structured buildings caused complete and utter collapse at near free-fall speed. This is merely an historical side-note now, yet you must be a mentally retarded person to believe what you believe. Tell me, does McDonalds pay you well???

  • It wasn't just "a fire," it was a very large and very hot jet fuel fire. Now you'll say that the temperature of burning jet fuel is nowhere near the melting point of the steel. But the steel didn't have to turn to liquid, it just softened until it buckled. It's funny how so many people believe in these theories even though every single other venture these neocons have attempted have been pathetic failures on all levels. 9/11 was just another one of their screw-ups.

  • Because it is a bullshit theory. The 911 truthers are just a bunch of Bush haters. It takes the blame aaway from America's actions for the past 40 years and puts all the blame on Bush who is characterized as an idiot.

    If anything is an inside job it is the theory that 911 was pulled of by Bush. He is a great scapegoat and it totally takes any discussion off of the table about America reaping what it has sowed. Let's discuss why someone would want to do this instead of making up how no one would

  • Ha, it's funny the way he intellectually beats up David Frum.

  • yeah this a great audio thanks mr1001

  • Canada doesn't matter! fucking hilarious! lmao

  • chomsky is great i hope one day americans will be free from the elites

  • It's amazing how little things have changed where the mainstream media is concerned; a lot of this sounds sickeningly familiar after 2003's debacle.

  • thank you mr1001nights

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